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Fri, 8 Mar 2019 12:19:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 12:19:42 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Wouters Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org To: Pradeep Kumar Xplorer cc: dane WG list , hasmat@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LRH 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dane] Need some feed back X-BeenThere: dane@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DNS-based Authentication of Named Entities List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 17:19:50 -0000 On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, Pradeep Kumar Xplorer wrote: Pradeep, > Subject: [dane] Need some feed back > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xplorer-device-association/ There are a number of fundamental problems with your document. First, the document seems to want to tie together and manage protocol identifiers from a slew of technologies and industry standard groups. That is not something that the IETF can dictate in an RFC. Second, it was send to the dane list, but I see nothing related to DANE or DNSSEC. simiarly, the non-WG hasmat list also seems to be the wrong place for this discussion, as that is specificly about HTTP only. I have set the reply-to to the generic ietf@ietf.org to prevent further followups to end up in these wrong mailing lists. Third, you seem to be putting in personal anecdotal information of use cases in a standards document where these do not belong. Fourth, you are implying to create a new globally unique identier that is easy to remember in total free form, without any kind of specification. If you want the IETF to look at your work, you need to separate all these issues in small defined chunks as see how or if they apply to the IETF at all. Perhaps ICANN or ITU is a better fit for what you are looking for. Your document feels like a vague idea, not a specific protocol issue. I recommend you brainstorm more about your ideas in general, and how and where it fits into the world. See what is out there, and where it fits in, and then write very specific drafts. A use case or overview or architecture document, with a discussion about how current architectures are not working. And only then start writing drafts that an implementer could write code for without needing to make any architecture decisions. It would be good to also become more familiar with IETF and particupate in more mailing list discussion before writing more drafts. Please see: https://www.ietf.org/tao Paul From nobody Sat Mar 9 22:50:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dane@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dane@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0001127982 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 21:49:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.991 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.991 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=pradeepkumarxplorer.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eSJO_U4YaPby for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 21:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from outbound-ss-879.bluehost.com (outbound-ss-879.bluehost.com [69.89.30.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86FC11274D0 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 21:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmgw12.unifiedlayer.com (unknown [10.9.0.12]) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2A51E09FC for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 22:49:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from box439.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.239]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 2rKhh4Q4Kmds92rKhhpDyl; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 22:49:12 -0700 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pradeepkumarxplorer.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:Cc:To:From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=i5i+p/lL6/cUN4N8yN4Zw6q7qlieF/HhEP8qKNHxJMY=; b=oAnCbg/NRyRlCEJhCNk0qRlcz KaTI5XA/BjYkLUM+UbaAvzorcxNYYulM5l5zRbmHzXxEpNKLio8IVGY781NQh3u+kCNk60WhjYO8h xvHRUfvxoPqUTmnXOIc4Zw7qZUFr8NUKKv5TZ89vbGwQfRt1qTD0AtIntHC934mKBvxKwm+QJqBDl LLk25Q39YWp05NJ6a1wPqwBDLKPwAczbcuY/436D5mW9JIPDnkE27SfUy/5lcGznoSm6egL03I+yf 8SIiuFdBoxTvoCkfEMLXuOEHyPX0E4GHDJNePf6oSTHstOcyeB6vrZEJBTDWPvdsu7EuWsicCA6be n7UT/einw==; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=52941 helo=box439.bluehost.com) by box439.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1h2rKh-004MSw-6P; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 22:49:11 -0700 Received: from 117.208.174.25 ([117.208.174.25]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user pradeepkumarxplorer@pradeepkumarxplorer.com) by box439.bluehost.com with HTTP; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 22:49:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1bbdf582e4d3f08332e512f64e70ecd8.squirrel@box439.bluehost.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2019 22:49:11 -0700 From: "Pradeep Kumar Xplorer" To: ietf@ietf.org, paul@nohats.ca, icann@icann.org, info@itu.int, dane@ietf.org Cc: "Pradeep Kumar Xplorer" , "dane WG list" , hasmat@ietf.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Importance: High X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box439.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pradeepkumarxplorer.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Source-L: Yes X-Exim-ID: 1h2rKh-004MSw-6P X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (box439.bluehost.com) [127.0.0.1]:52941 X-Source-Auth: pradeepkumarxplorer@pradeepkumarxplorer.com X-Email-Count: 7 X-Source-Cap: ZXhwbG9kaTQ7ZXhwbG9kaTQ7Ym94NDM5LmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 22:50:10 -0800 Subject: Re: [dane] Need some feed back X-BeenThere: dane@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DNS-based Authentication of Named Entities List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 05:49:18 -0000 I described a need in the document.I pioneered browser usage since 1992 just like if i was able to get an ovaltine in the morning by shops knowing my needs i and therefore many was given better and better browser experiences, i was an Ex SUN employee worked as software engineer in offices and in a 40 hour sitting schedule that compressed my back and since 1998 i have been to yoga fitness studios.SUN did not pay me Options or it was stolen and with some meagre 80000 dollars i had while in MountainView 2004 as a resident of Stierlin apartments alone without any woman or biological children i registered dhyanayoga.info and started publishing as a yoga guide. The money that was held by company accountants or banks due to me was not given to me. I publish dhyanayoga.info and explodingmoon.org and pradeepkumarxplorer.com as an individual.Todate i dont know who the viewers are nor have email contact or phone contact with them and i am victim of theft of subscriber help or value of IP of my website which can be easily ten billion dollars cash enough to lead a retired life in California owning a property like jenner vacation rentals and staying there. Instead of being able to enjoy my subscribers help and be a retired yoga body works practitioner - I was harmed and detained by Thai and US Immigration detentions - The thieves used a US CBP Fabregas romeo to harass me at airport April 8 2008 and forced me to sign a I-407 and siezed my permanent resident card. - The thieves attacked me since Jan 2010 many times using low class palakkad criminals and kerala police and detained me in hospitals and destroyed and injured my yoga body. - The thieves are using ATM cards issued in my name - I have no one in my life i am a naturalised californian naturalised thailand who has been forcefully separated from both worlds to prevent me fathering a child so some cousins and their children can steal this ten billion dollars as family inheritance. SO these are the sufferings me as webhosting webserver customer is having because of lack of a standard that enforces Weblogs have either Internet Unique names or DeviceMacs. I am just one body anyone can download the document draft update their names and modify and upload it to Create an acceptible Draft RFC. WHy it is not happening is the question which lingers in me. On Fri, March 8, 2019 10:19 am, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, Pradeep Kumar Xplorer wrote: > > > Pradeep, > > >> Subject: [dane] Need some feed back >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xplorer-device-association/ >> > > There are a number of fundamental problems with your document. > > > First, the document seems to want to tie together and manage protocol > identifiers from a slew of technologies and industry standard groups. That > is not something that the IETF can dictate in an RFC. > > Second, it was send to the dane list, but I see nothing related to DANE > or DNSSEC. simiarly, the non-WG hasmat list also seems to be the wrong > place for this discussion, as that is specificly about HTTP only. I have > set the reply-to to the generic ietf@ietf.org to prevent further followups > to end up in these wrong mailing lists. > > Third, you seem to be putting in personal anecdotal information of use > cases in a standards document where these do not belong. > > Fourth, you are implying to create a new globally unique identier that > is easy to remember in total free form, without any kind of specification. > > > If you want the IETF to look at your work, you need to separate all these > issues in small defined chunks as see how or if they apply to the IETF at > all. Perhaps ICANN or ITU is a better fit for what you are looking for. > > Your document feels like a vague idea, not a specific protocol issue. > I recommend you brainstorm more about your ideas in general, and how > and where it fits into the world. See what is out there, and where it fits > in, and then write very specific drafts. A use case or overview or > architecture document, with a discussion about how current architectures > are not working. And only then start writing drafts that an implementer > could write code for without needing to make any architecture decisions. > > It would be good to also become more familiar with IETF and particupate > in more mailing list discussion before writing more drafts. Please see: No i dont have any income and being attacked for insisting i have my money. Criminals in palakkad using a mother and my websites are stealing and operating my money.I dont have time for following anyones rules and protocols expect i insist i know who my website viewers are, i have communication with them, they know i expect subscriber help, i am self employed that means my website is not the Creation of a group(I drank ovaltine today morning if they claim they are my group theres something fundamentally wrong with it) and that for last 15 years the cyber criminals exploiting me has isolated me and prevented me from living in my homeland of california. Theres nothing vague about my proposal. My weblogs should have Internet Unique identity that should be automatically billed and i should be able to expend that money using banking instruments i posess as an individual like an ATM. > > https://www.ietf.org/tao > > > Paul > > From nobody Sat Mar 9 23:01:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dane@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dane@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BFB126DFA for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 23:01:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.891 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.891 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kumari-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oPzxpIMsExyQ for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 23:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qt1-x82a.google.com (mail-qt1-x82a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1673126C15 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 23:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qt1-x82a.google.com with SMTP id f11so1786223qti.7 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 23:01:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kumari-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TLAEjQ9qBYglZzFoErNQw2zNWRofFsETaujY2jRO2GQ=; b=V7xgWXzG45YsRU6w74xfgp2ho1spCxVOWoLvZbCJ9nopl737U1VVtNgEPaNYhEK1iw fv6lDtL3728MDw/qkLLlldkG5n6SuvqM80qSxPJhq0prwxJgcT79ZK0mDwKLuO2fAT4t b3B4+rQpS4wSCpbbBFRaP0fDH0UhqNkoVit/+H7iwuh7KcgknrFhF+/5Zjir8hEflqer ap/yJeZi1nJUis8PBIg45qY8GmcTdwYgOMaqGoRKyCAhEvpCxLzQhJr8l0ruONBfpIfQ iTc7eX2RuoO71kRxmXyDvE7kKUCqtM+DZS1VuIYNCrLGeGRqoTRCorVwyUTrLTbP9TAc b5bw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TLAEjQ9qBYglZzFoErNQw2zNWRofFsETaujY2jRO2GQ=; b=iWEo+BRqvhZIy3pqRS4HP8cZcdH4DOtIXQE5ntUDPQqGBRtGQqnIcRhYfBmFTIDLBE ETu/O6AG5FR7rBBfjpPFfziLI9VZ4EEDcHjdXLY4q2xj8hMYrmNQ2PA/5JX+4tm2Afet HUT1ztU2XfiIhQVi1wtJIR393fT7fP3aZlogWCH084gpA+iXGVBCk/TyAgM2p+wwzCBC qp68eGxZUsD6OytGwU/OyomyceyrVhYci1lLViM3GUcLVeJIAjpWjirROxvodnErfnwn tKjo13BMUk6Tgj0aFFzQlDKyL1X0iMa4JHTDCk8dWWzZxY2hhiH1PMTJpbAwgy0Eb8Zg 09mA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVUPUgAbUl+YqpEn6tmPeZx/bzzYh4I7Kn5pdPdzLXnChsL1iQv kaxHcbNTguXIyzKy3xgHG4R7fBWN2DMt5u3SfmrmAmB++ZYANQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwI/p/E60j0BaedgrZd8UgcJxPXksjc/WERZ8h2XjBHLyubQFjvk66gkEinoLQySbdKc4bAPf7mVC7jOoCm7AQ= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2945:: with SMTP id z5mr21238203qtz.100.1552201287541; Sat, 09 Mar 2019 23:01:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1bbdf582e4d3f08332e512f64e70ecd8.squirrel@box439.bluehost.com> In-Reply-To: <1bbdf582e4d3f08332e512f64e70ecd8.squirrel@box439.bluehost.com> From: Warren Kumari Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 16:00:49 +0900 Message-ID: To: Pradeep Kumar Xplorer Cc: Paul Wouters , dane WG list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005d37f00583b806d7" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dane] Need some feed back X-BeenThere: dane@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DNS-based Authentication of Named Entities List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 07:01:32 -0000 --0000000000005d37f00583b806d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" [ - a bunch of addresses on the CC list ] DANE / Pradeep, I manually approved this posting - I would like to note that this, like the previous email, is off-topic for the DANE list. Pradeep, you have been warned against this sort of behavior on other mailing lists (as an example, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/GbUL8XxChNjU3zDpI3l-1JTP8tI ). As one of the DANE mailing list administrators, I'm providing a warning here as well - off-topic posts are not appropriate, and I will be moderating future off-topic posts. Sorry, W On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 3:50 PM Pradeep Kumar Xplorer < pradeepkumarxplorer@pradeepkumarxplorer.com> wrote: > I described a need in the document.I pioneered browser usage since 1992 > just like if i was able to get an ovaltine in the morning by shops knowing > my needs i and therefore many was given better and better browser > experiences, i was an Ex SUN employee worked as software engineer in > offices > and in a 40 hour sitting schedule that compressed my back and since 1998 i > have been to yoga fitness studios.SUN did not pay me Options or it was > stolen and with some meagre 80000 dollars i had while in MountainView 2004 > as a resident of Stierlin apartments alone without any woman or biological > children i registered dhyanayoga.info and started publishing as a yoga > guide. The money that was held by company accountants or banks due to me > was not given to me. I publish dhyanayoga.info and explodingmoon.org and > pradeepkumarxplorer.com as an individual.Todate i dont know who the > viewers > are nor have email contact or phone contact with them and i am victim of > theft of subscriber help or value of IP of my website which can be easily > ten billion dollars cash enough to lead a retired life in California owning > a property like jenner vacation rentals and staying there. Instead of being > able to enjoy my subscribers help and be a retired yoga body works > practitioner > - I was harmed and detained by Thai and US Immigration detentions > - The thieves used a US CBP Fabregas romeo to harass me at airport April 8 > 2008 and forced me to sign a I-407 and siezed my permanent resident card. > - The thieves attacked me since Jan 2010 many times using low class > palakkad criminals and kerala police and detained me in hospitals and > destroyed and > injured my yoga body. > - The thieves are using ATM cards issued in my name > - I have no one in my life i am a naturalised californian naturalised > thailand who has been forcefully separated from both worlds to prevent > me fathering a child so some cousins and their children can steal this > ten billion dollars as family inheritance. > > SO these are the sufferings me as webhosting webserver customer is having > because of lack of a standard that enforces Weblogs have either Internet > Unique names or DeviceMacs. I am just one body anyone can download the > document draft update their names and modify and upload it to Create an > acceptible Draft RFC. WHy it is not happening is the question which lingers > in me. > > > On Fri, March 8, 2019 10:19 am, Paul Wouters wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, Pradeep Kumar Xplorer wrote: > > > > > > Pradeep, > > > > > >> Subject: [dane] Need some feed back > >> > >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xplorer-device-association/ > >> > > > > There are a number of fundamental problems with your document. > > > > > > First, the document seems to want to tie together and manage protocol > > identifiers from a slew of technologies and industry standard groups. > That > > is not something that the IETF can dictate in an RFC. > > > > Second, it was send to the dane list, but I see nothing related to DANE > > or DNSSEC. simiarly, the non-WG hasmat list also seems to be the wrong > > place for this discussion, as that is specificly about HTTP only. I have > > set the reply-to to the generic ietf@ietf.org to prevent further > followups > > to end up in these wrong mailing lists. > > > > Third, you seem to be putting in personal anecdotal information of use > > cases in a standards document where these do not belong. > > > > Fourth, you are implying to create a new globally unique identier that > > is easy to remember in total free form, without any kind of > specification. > > > > > > If you want the IETF to look at your work, you need to separate all these > > issues in small defined chunks as see how or if they apply to the IETF > at > > all. Perhaps ICANN or ITU is a better fit for what you are looking for. > > > > Your document feels like a vague idea, not a specific protocol issue. > > I recommend you brainstorm more about your ideas in general, and how > > and where it fits into the world. See what is out there, and where it > fits > > in, and then write very specific drafts. A use case or overview or > > architecture document, with a discussion about how current architectures > > are not working. And only then start writing drafts that an implementer > > could write code for without needing to make any architecture decisions. > > > > It would be good to also become more familiar with IETF and particupate > > in more mailing list discussion before writing more drafts. Please see: > > No i dont have any income and being attacked for insisting i have my money. > Criminals in palakkad using a mother and my websites are stealing and > operating my money.I dont have time for following anyones rules and > protocols expect i insist i know who my website viewers are, i have > communication with them, they know i expect subscriber help, i am self > employed that means my website is not the Creation of a group(I drank > ovaltine today morning if they claim they are my group theres something > fundamentally wrong with it) and that for last 15 years the cyber criminals > exploiting me has isolated me and prevented me from living in my homeland > of > california. > Theres nothing vague about my proposal. > My weblogs should have Internet Unique identity that should be > automatically billed and i should be able to expend that money using > banking instruments > i posess as an individual like an ATM. > > > > https://www.ietf.org/tao > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dane mailing list > dane@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dane > -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf --0000000000005d37f00583b806d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
[ - a bunch of addresses on the CC list ]

=
DANE / Pradeep,

I manually approved this posting - I would like to no= te that this, like the previous email, is off-topic for the DANE list.

=
Pradeep, you have been warned against this sort of behavior on other maili= ng lists (as an example,=C2=A0https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/= art/GbUL8XxChNjU3zDpI3l-1JTP8tI ). As one of the DANE mailing list admi= nistrators, I'm providing a warning here as well - off-topic posts are = not appropriate, and I will be moderating future off-topic posts.

Sorr= y,
W



On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 3:50 PM Pradeep Kumar Xpl= orer <pra= deepkumarxplorer@pradeepkumarxplorer.com> wrote:
I described a need in the document.= I pioneered browser usage since 1992
just like if i was able to get an ovaltine in the morning by shops knowing<= br> my needs i and therefore many was given better and better browser
experiences, i was an Ex SUN employee worked as software engineer in
offices
and in a 40 hour sitting schedule that compressed my back and since 1998 i<= br> have been to yoga fitness studios.SUN did not pay me Options or it was
stolen and with some meagre 80000 dollars i had while in MountainView 2004<= br> as a resident of Stierlin apartments alone without any woman or biological<= br> children i registered dhyanayoga.info and started publishing as a yoga
guide. The money that was held by company accountants or banks=C2=A0 due to= me
was not given to me. I publish dhyanayoga.info and explodingmoon.org an= d
pradeepkumarxplorer.com as an individual.Todate i dont know who th= e
viewers
are nor have email contact or phone contact with them and i am victim of theft of subscriber help or value of IP of my website which can be easily ten billion dollars cash enough to lead a retired life in California owning=
a property like jenner vacation rentals and staying there. Instead of being=
able to enjoy my subscribers help and be a retired yoga body works
practitioner
- I was harmed and detained by Thai and US Immigration detentions
- The thieves used a US CBP Fabregas romeo to harass me at airport April 8<= br> 2008 and forced me to sign a I-407 and siezed my permanent resident card. - The thieves attacked me since Jan 2010 many times using low class
palakkad criminals and kerala police=C2=A0 and detained me in hospitals and=
destroyed and
injured my yoga body.
- The thieves are using ATM cards issued in my name
- I have no one in my life i am a naturalised californian naturalised
thailand who has been forcefully separated from both worlds to prevent
me fathering a child so some cousins and their children can steal this
ten billion dollars as family inheritance.

SO these are the sufferings me as webhosting webserver customer is having because of lack of a standard that enforces Weblogs have either Internet Unique names or DeviceMacs. I am just one body anyone can download the
document draft update their names and modify and upload it to Create an
acceptible Draft RFC. WHy it is not happening is the question which lingers=
in me.


On Fri, March 8, 2019 10:19 am, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, Pradeep Kumar Xplorer wrote:
>
>
> Pradeep,
>
>
>> Subject: [dane] Need some feed back
>>
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.= org/doc/draft-xplorer-device-association/
>>
>
> There are a number of fundamental problems with your document.
>
>
> First, the document seems to want to tie together and manage protocol<= br> > identifiers from a slew of technologies and industry standard groups. = That
>=C2=A0 is not something that the IETF can dictate in an RFC.
>
> Second, it was send to the dane list, but I see nothing related to DAN= E
> or DNSSEC. simiarly, the non-WG hasmat list also seems to be the wrong=
> place for this discussion, as that is specificly about HTTP only. I ha= ve
> set the reply-to to the generic ietf@ietf.org to prevent further followups
> to end up in these wrong mailing lists.
>
> Third, you seem to be putting in personal anecdotal information of use=
> cases in a standards document where these do not belong.
>
> Fourth, you are implying to create a new globally unique identier that=
> is easy to remember in total free form, without any kind of specificat= ion.
>
>
> If you want the IETF to look at your work, you need to separate all th= ese
>=C2=A0 issues in small defined chunks as see how or if they apply to th= e IETF at
> all. Perhaps ICANN or ITU is a better fit for what you are looking for= .
>
> Your document feels like a vague idea, not a specific protocol issue.<= br> > I recommend you brainstorm more about your ideas in general, and how > and where it fits into the world. See what is out there, and where it = fits
> in, and then write very specific drafts. A use case or overview or
> architecture document, with a discussion about how current architectur= es
> are not working. And only then start writing drafts that an implemente= r
> could write code for without needing to make any architecture decision= s.
>
> It would be good to also become more familiar with IETF and particupat= e
> in more mailing list discussion before writing more drafts. Please see= :

No i dont have any income and being attacked for insisting i have my money.=
Criminals in palakkad using a mother and my websites are stealing and
operating my money.I dont have time for following anyones rules and
protocols expect i insist i know who my website viewers are, i have
communication with them, they know i expect subscriber help, i am self
employed that means my website is not the Creation of a group(I drank
ovaltine today morning if they claim they are my group theres something
fundamentally wrong with it) and that for last 15 years the cyber criminals=
exploiting me has isolated me and prevented me from living in my homeland o= f
california.
Theres nothing vague about my proposal.
My weblogs should have Internet Unique identity that should be
automatically billed and i should be able to expend that money using
banking instruments
i posess as an individual like an ATM.
>
> https://www.ietf.org/tao
>
>
> Paul
>
>


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I don't think the execution is relevant when= it was obviously a bad idea in the first place.
This is like putting ra= bid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen tho= se particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants.
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