From richard_woundy@cable.comcast.com Wed Aug 4 08:49:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243343A692C for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 08:49:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.666 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.666 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.554, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aPHMyENMZs0o for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 08:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com (PacdcIMO01.cable.comcast.com [24.40.8.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9A53A6892 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 08:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.55.41]) by pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP with TLS id 5503620.88441040; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:49:56 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXCSMTP03.cable.comcast.com (24.40.15.92) by PACDCEXHUB02.cable.comcast.com (24.40.55.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.702.0; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:49:56 -0400 Received: from pacdcexcmb05.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.116]) by PACDCEXCSMTP03.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:49:54 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB33EC.A4D71F8A" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:49:37 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [decade] draft agenda posted Thread-Index: AcskhS1ST9iQHeRdRk+LXrl9ij6ABgPZFRxg References: <017601cb2342$16b622c0$44226840$@com> From: "Woundy, Richard" To: =?gb2312?B?1uzk7A==?= X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2010 15:49:54.0568 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEA72880:01CB33EC] Cc: decade@ietf.org Subject: Re: [decade] draft agenda posted X-BeenThere: decade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "To start the discussion on DECoupled Application Data Enroute, to discuss the in-network data storage for p2p applications and its access protocol" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:49:41 -0000 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB33EC.A4D71F8A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zhu, =20 I don=A1=AFt think we ever gave a clear response to your question on the = mailing list, so let me fix that. =20 > will anyone be nice to help me give me the strawman proposal draft = link? Not the presentation slide? =A1=AD > the strawman proposal said it was just one solution architecture for = DECADE problem statement =20 While Richard Alimi presented slides on a possible DECADE solution = architecture at IETF77 = (http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/77/slides/decade-7.pdf), we have not = seen an Architecture draft submitted as of yet, even though it is one of = the deliverables from the charter = (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/decade/charter/). =20 The DECADE charter provides the following guidance for this document: = =A1=B0An architecture document. This document will identify DECADE's = relationship with existing IETF protocols. Existing protocols will be = used wherever possible and appropriate to support DECADE's requirements. = In particular, data storage, retrieval, and management may be provided = by an existing IETF protocols. The WG will not limit itself to a single = data transport protocol since different protocols may have varying = implementation costs and performance tradeoffs. However, to keep = interoperability manageable, a small number of specific, targeted, data = transport protocols will be identified and used.=A1=B1 =20 So we need this draft but it doesn=A1=AFt exist yet=A1=AD =20 -- Rich =20 From: ?? [mailto:buptxiaozhu@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:20 PM To: Woundy, Richard Cc: decade@ietf.org Subject: Re: [decade] draft agenda posted =20 thanks sincerely, Richard:) =20 actually, i had paid attention for DECADE for a long time. Because the = strawman proposal said it was just one solution architecture for DECADE = problem statement, which intrigue me. And when i want to know more, i = did not find the draft in our WG. so i turn to ask for help in our email = group. Thanks for your help all the same:) =D4=DA 2010=C4=EA7=D4=C216=C8=D5 =C9=CF=CE=E74:36=A3=ACWoundy, Richard = =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA I would suggest reading the DECADE charter = (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/decade/charter/) first, so you can = understand what this working group is trying to accomplish. In brief, = the working group=A1=AFs primary tasks are to identify target = applications to use open protocols for in-network storage, to identify = requirements for application access to in-network storage, and to = develop an architecture for in-network storage that leverages existing = IETF protocols (for example, HTTP, NFS, or WebDAV) as much as possible. =20 Once you understand the purpose of this working group, you may want to = see the latest documents on the problem statement, requirements, survey, = and use cases, which you can find from = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/decade.html. =20 -- Rich =20 P.S. We haven=A1=AFt posted the presentation slides yet for the IETF = Maastricht meeting. =20 From: decade-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:decade-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of ?? Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:16 AM To: decade@ietf.org Subject: Re: [decade] draft agenda posted =20 hi,all =20 will anyone be nice to help me give me the strawman proposal draft link? = not the presentation slide? thanks in advance=A3=BA=A3=A9 2010/7/14 Woundy, Richard Folks, I changed the agenda from text to html to make it easier to use. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/decade.html -- Rich -----Original Message----- From: Song Haibin [mailto:melodysong@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:48 AM To: decade@ietf.org Cc: Woundy, Richard Subject: draft agenda posted Hi all, We also posted the draft agenda to the website. You can find it here: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/decade.txt BR, Haibin & Rich _______________________________________________ decade mailing list decade@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/decade --=20 Best wishes, Beijing University of Posts & Telecommunications (BUPT) Zhu Xiao ( =D6=EC=E4=EC ) E-mail: buptxiaozhu@gmail.com mobile:+86 134-8881-9004 --=20 Best wishes, Beijing University of Posts & Telecommunications (BUPT) Zhu Xiao ( =D6=EC=E4=EC ) E-mail: buptxiaozhu@gmail.com mobile:+86 134-8881-9004 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB33EC.A4D71F8A Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Zhu,

 

I don=A1=AFt think we ever gave a clear response to your = question on the mailing list, so let me fix that.

 

> will anyone be nice to help me give me the strawman proposal draft link? Not = the presentation slide?

=A1=AD

> the strawman proposal said it was just one solution architecture for DECADE problem = statement

 

While Richard Alimi presented slides on a possible DECADE = solution architecture at IETF77 (http://ww= w.ietf.org/proceedings/77/slides/decade-7.pdf), we have not seen an Architecture draft submitted as of yet, even though = it is one of the deliverables from the charter (http://datatracke= r.ietf.org/wg/decade/charter/).

 

The DECADE charter provides the following guidance for = this document: =A1=B0An architecture document. This document will identify = DECADE's relationship with existing IETF protocols. Existing protocols will be used wherever = possible and appropriate to support DECADE's requirements. In particular, data = storage, retrieval, and management may be provided by an existing IETF protocols. = The WG will not limit itself to a single data transport protocol since = different protocols may have varying implementation costs and performance = tradeoffs. However, to keep interoperability manageable, a small number of specific, = targeted, data transport protocols will be identified and = used.=A1=B1

 

So we need this draft but it doesn=A1=AFt exist = yet=A1=AD

 

-- Rich

 

From:= ?? [mailto:buptxiaozhu@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:20 PM
To: Woundy, Richard
Cc: decade@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [decade] draft agenda posted

 

thanks sincerely, Richard:)

 

actually, i had paid = attention for DECADE for a long time. Because the strawman proposal said it was = just one solution architecture for DECADE = problem statement, which intrigue me. And when i want to know more, i did not = find the draft in our WG. so i turn to ask for help in our email group.  Thanks for = your help all the same:)

=D4=DA 2010=C4=EA7=D4=C216=C8=D5 = =C9=CF=CE=E74:36=A3=ACWoundy, Richard <Richard_Woundy@cable.com= cast.com>=D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA

I would suggest reading the = DECADE charter (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/decade/charter/) = first, so you can understand what this working group is trying to accomplish. In = brief, the working group=A1=AFs primary tasks are to = identify target applications to use open protocols for in-network storage, to = identify requirements for application access to in-network storage, and to = develop an architecture for in-network storage that leverages existing IETF = protocols (for example, HTTP, NFS, or WebDAV) as much as = possible.

 

Once you understand the purpose = of this working group, you may want to see the latest documents on the problem statement, requirements, survey, and use cases, which you can find from = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/decade.html.

 

-- Rich

 

P.S. We haven=A1=AFt posted the presentation slides yet for the IETF Maastricht = meeting.

 

From: decade-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:decade-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ??
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:16 AM
To: decade@ietf.org


Subject: Re: [decade] draft agenda posted

 

hi,all<= /o:p>

 

will anyone be nice to help me give me the strawman proposal draft link? not = the presentation slide?

thanks in advance=A3=BA=A3=A9

2010/7/14 Woundy, Richard <Richard_Woundy@cable.comcast.com>

=

Folks,

I changed the agenda from text to html to make it easier to use.

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/decade.html

-- Rich




--
Best wishes,

Beijing University of Posts & Telecommunications (BUPT)
Zhu Xiao  ( =D6=EC=E4=EC )
E-mail: buptxiaozhu@gmail.com
mobile:+86 134-8881-9004




--
Best wishes,

Beijing University of Posts & Telecommunications (BUPT)
Zhu Xiao  = ( =D6=EC=E4=EC )
E-mail: buptxiaozhu@gmail.com
mobile:+86 134-8881-9004

------_=_NextPart_001_01CB33EC.A4D71F8A-- From melodysong@huawei.com Wed Aug 4 09:30:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3302628C0E7 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:30:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.705 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.705 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.893, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d3guXOMCGqC3 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga05-in.huawei.com (szxga04-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2E13A69E3 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga05-in [172.24.2.49]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L6M000RKZ74JL@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for decade@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:30:40 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L6M0041IZ73DT@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for decade@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:30:40 +0800 (CST) Received: from jys0449573 ([10.200.189.116]) by szxml06-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L6M008ZEZ7155@szxml06-in.huawei.com> for decade@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:30:39 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:30:37 +0200 From: Haibin Song To: decade@ietf.org Message-id: <00a401cb33f2$5fc1a6e0$1f44f4a0$@com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Yd7n4t9FLfXUS1g32FQybA)" Content-language: zh-cn Thread-index: Acsz8l5jQ9399iTBQoysv7laZFxxgw== Subject: [decade] security review of the problem statement draft X-BeenThere: decade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "To start the discussion on DECoupled Application Data Enroute, to discuss the in-network data storage for p2p applications and its access protocol" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:30:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Yd7n4t9FLfXUS1g32FQybA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, As I said during the meeting, anyone who wants to give a security review of the problem statement draft is appreciated. BR, Haibin --Boundary_(ID_Yd7n4t9FLfXUS1g32FQybA) Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

As I said during the meeting, = anyone who wants to give a security review of the problem statement draft is = appreciated.

 

BR,

Haibin <as = contributor>

 

--Boundary_(ID_Yd7n4t9FLfXUS1g32FQybA)-- From haibinsong.cn@gmail.com Wed Aug 4 12:03:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90383A67D3 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5O52nZD4R+R2 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f44.google.com (mail-ew0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFF53A6886 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so2392597ewy.31 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:03:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=zg8tQfYJ+P/O8M0z/XgjUUQcNVAKOUaMz6iD4NGSBLI=; b=HXBHJgz7fbhwfFxzDv+C9twe0pqY49VaEu/gc4DUHpMSAU43l4he0E6m0XUK/LS1+X KDGY2DeFYZnYnsSIsUc+2R/e6bqD0wOfQkJorKZD3o10BE3E/CBcyaAXC8RLR6lriTJS JL/oggNKvGKMP/V9LlVMwJyCuKZjzUF91WrWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=fxnq/RGv5FGX3GLs/X11cYXawcBJHSxDg1D0VId0Vhk/UCeKlVpaVQAJj3ltp7SK9x MduiXS3II1G7UbwcCAnvC38Qp1f6/PUhL8Da/M2jSSXViCISEtKXfG9Qj6ZgE0uXehIc akghNDxsc6U6DOg2vC464AWIcoRHK0Odm5xfg= Received: by 10.213.17.195 with SMTP id t3mr2311595eba.63.1280948608651; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jys0449573 (ip-94-140-186-241.reverse.destiny.be [94.140.186.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v59sm13278235eeh.16.2010.08.04.12.03.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:03:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Haibin Song" To: Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 21:03:26 +0200 Message-ID: <4c59b980.d37b0e0a.3dc6.ffffbdf0@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015B_01CB3418.7C6A6CC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acs0B3nPmEYKVCd5Ta6ML+l3+6SKSQ== Content-Language: zh-cn X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:06:47 -0700 Subject: [decade] follow up the meeting X-BeenThere: decade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "To start the discussion on DECoupled Application Data Enroute, to discuss the in-network data storage for p2p applications and its access protocol" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:04:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015B_01CB3418.7C6A6CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, =20 Some topics were discussed a lot during the meeting , and they may need = further discussion in the list to make it clearer. One of them is the = following: =20 The requirement to support another typical application other than P2P, I = believe this is a high level requirement. And talking about a concrete = example is more helpful. But the detailed requirements might be similar = to P2P applications.=20 =20 I would like to see more discussion about it in the list. =20 BR, Haibin =20 ------=_NextPart_000_015B_01CB3418.7C6A6CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Folks,

 

Some topics were discussed a lot = during the meeting , and they may need further discussion in the list to make it = clearer. One of them is the following:

 

The requirement to support = another typical application other than P2P, I believe this is a high level requirement. = And talking about a concrete example is more helpful. But the detailed = requirements might be similar to P2P applications.

 

I would like to see more = discussion about it in the list.

 

BR,

Haibin

 

------=_NextPart_000_015B_01CB3418.7C6A6CC0-- From richard_woundy@cable.comcast.com Thu Aug 5 14:15:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6233A67D3 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:15:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -108.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-108.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.275, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CdAcEF5zYzb9 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com (PacdcIMO01.cable.comcast.com [24.40.8.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2566F3A6861 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.55.41]) by pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP with TLS id 5503620.88632615; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:15:28 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXCSMTP03.cable.comcast.com (24.40.15.92) by PACDCEXHUB02.cable.comcast.com (24.40.55.41) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.702.0; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:15:28 -0400 Received: from pacdcexcmb05.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.116]) by PACDCEXCSMTP03.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:15:25 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB34E3.3A553EDC" Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:14:36 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DECADE draft minutes posted Thread-Index: Acs04zUSfpQSodabTH2f/4ovrNMtMw== From: "Woundy, Richard" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2010 21:15:25.0285 (UTC) FILETIME=[5247D150:01CB34E3] Subject: [decade] DECADE draft minutes posted X-BeenThere: decade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "To start the discussion on DECoupled Application Data Enroute, to discuss the in-network data storage for p2p applications and its access protocol" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:15:09 -0000 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB34E3.3A553EDC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, =20 Draft minutes of the Maastricht meeting are now available on the proceedings page: . =20 These minutes represent a condensed summary of the meeting. Fully detailed discussions can be heard on the audio recording of the meeting, to be found at http://nagasaki.bogus.com/ietf78/ietf78-ch2-tue-noon.mp3, starting at offset 00:43:52. =20 Please send any corrections or comments to Haibin and myself. Thanks! =20 -- Rich and Haibin, co-chairs ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB34E3.3A553EDC Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Folks,

 

Draft minutes of the Maastricht meeting are now = available on the proceedings page: <http://ww= w.ietf.org/proceedings/78/minutes/decade.html>.

 

These minutes represent a condensed summary of the = meeting. Fully detailed discussions can be heard on the audio  recording of = the meeting, to be found at http://= nagasaki.bogus.com/ietf78/ietf78-ch2-tue-noon.mp3, starting at offset 00:43:52.

 

Please send any corrections or comments to Haibin = and myself. Thanks!

 

-- Rich and Haibin, co-chairs

------_=_NextPart_001_01CB34E3.3A553EDC-- From richard_woundy@cable.comcast.com Thu Aug 5 14:18:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7329B3A6A70 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -108.204 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-108.204 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.258, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nrEl3+FP3kz0 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com (PacdcIMO01.cable.comcast.com [24.40.8.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431CF3A6A56 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.55.40]) by pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP with TLS id 5503620.88633167; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:18:31 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXCSMTP04.cable.comcast.com (24.40.15.118) by pacdcexhub03.cable.comcast.com (24.40.55.40) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.702.0; Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:18:31 -0400 Received: from pacdcexcmb05.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.116]) by PACDCEXCSMTP04.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:18:30 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB34E3.A46E7F28" Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:17:36 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DECADE draft minutes posted Thread-Index: Acs04zUSfpQSodabTH2f/4ovrNMtMwAAE1+Q References: From: "Woundy, Richard" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2010 21:18:30.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0DCFDC0:01CB34E3] Subject: Re: [decade] DECADE draft minutes posted X-BeenThere: decade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "To start the discussion on DECoupled Application Data Enroute, to discuss the in-network data storage for p2p applications and its access protocol" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:18:03 -0000 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB34E3.A46E7F28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And I want to take the opportunity to thank Enrico Marocco for capturing these notes during our meeting! =20 -- Rich =20 From: Woundy, Richard=20 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:15 PM To: decade@ietf.org Cc: Haibin Song; Woundy, Richard Subject: DECADE draft minutes posted =20 Folks, =20 Draft minutes of the Maastricht meeting are now available on the proceedings page: . =20 These minutes represent a condensed summary of the meeting. Fully detailed discussions can be heard on the audio recording of the meeting, to be found at http://nagasaki.bogus.com/ietf78/ietf78-ch2-tue-noon.mp3, starting at offset 00:43:52. =20 Please send any corrections or comments to Haibin and myself. Thanks! =20 -- Rich and Haibin, co-chairs ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB34E3.A46E7F28 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

And I want to take = the opportunity to thank Enrico Marocco for capturing these notes during our = meeting!

 

-- = Rich

 

From:= Woundy, = Richard
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:15 PM
To: decade@ietf.org
Cc: Haibin Song; Woundy, Richard
Subject: DECADE draft minutes posted

 

Folks,

 

Draft minutes of the Maastricht meeting are now = available on the proceedings page: <http://ww= w.ietf.org/proceedings/78/minutes/decade.html>.

 

These minutes represent a condensed summary of the = meeting. Fully detailed discussions can be heard on the audio  recording of = the meeting, to be found at http://= nagasaki.bogus.com/ietf78/ietf78-ch2-tue-noon.mp3, starting at offset 00:43:52.

 

Please send any corrections or comments to Haibin = and myself. Thanks!

 

-- Rich and Haibin, co-chairs

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2010 21:05:15 -0700 Cc: decade@ietf.org Subject: [decade] I-D Action:draft-ietf-decade-problem-statement-00.txt X-BeenThere: decade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "To start the discussion on DECoupled Application Data Enroute, to discuss the in-network data storage for p2p applications and its access protocol" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:00:02 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Decoupled Application Data Enroute Working Group of the IETF. Title : DECoupled Application Data Enroute (DECADE) Problem Statement Author(s) : S. Yongchao, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-decade-problem-statement-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2010-08-23 Peer-to-peer (P2P) applications have become widely used on the Internet today and make up a large portion of the traffic in many networks. In P2P applications, one technique for reducing the total amount of P2P traffic is to introduce storage capabilities within the network. Traditional caches (e.g., P2P and Web caches) provide such storage, but they are complex (due to explicitly supporting individual P2P application protocols) and they do not allow users to manage access to content in the cache. For example, Content Providers cannot easily control access and resource usage policies to satisfy their own requirements. This document discusses the introduction of in-network storage for P2P applications, shows the need for a standard protocol for accessing this storage, and identifies the scope of this protocol. The accessing protocol can also be used by other applications with similar requirements. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-decade-problem-statement-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-decade-problem-statement-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-08-23205443.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From melodysong@huawei.com Tue Aug 24 04:07:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: decade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765073A6767 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.323 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.323 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.713, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hs9OSKJArPC0 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA3B3A67A4 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga01-in [172.24.2.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L7N00837LLS4T@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for decade@ietf.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:08:16 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L7N00KBILLRZC@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for decade@ietf.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:08:15 +0800 (CST) Received: from s64081a ([10.138.84.92]) by szxml04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L7N00B3NLLOXT@szxml04-in.huawei.com> for decade@ietf.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:08:15 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:08:12 +0800 From: Song Haibin In-reply-to: To: decade@ietf.org Message-id: <004e01cb437c$a493dab0$edbb9010$@com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mi/dJubRd3Mw94BPR+2ijw)" Content-language: zh-cn Thread-index: AcstnqTDuCBDhLkjQ7q2NrGgW/oiqgAxD2SwBUXu0aA= References: Subject: Re: [decade] Adopting drafts as DECADE WG documents X-BeenThere: decade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "To start the discussion on DECoupled Application Data Enroute, to discuss the in-network data storage for p2p applications and its access protocol" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:07:57 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_mi/dJubRd3Mw94BPR+2ijw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear Folks, Sorry for sending this email so late. It should be confirmed by August 3. draft-song-decade-problem-statement-02 draft-gu-decade-reqs-05 draft-song-decade-survey-04 Since there were no objections in the mailing list for the adoption (we have a few positive responses). The above three documents with the comments solved (see the previous email) will be accepted as the working group documents. BR Haibin and Rich (co-chairs) From: Woundy, Richard [mailto:Richard_Woundy@cable.comcast.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:55 PM To: decade@ietf.org Cc: Haibin Song; Woundy, Richard Subject: RE: Adopting drafts as DECADE WG documents Folks, For the sake of people that did not attend the IETF session (or couldn't hear the audio etc), I wanted to communicate the following caveats / pre-requisites for two of the drafts: draft-gu-decade-reqs-05 : The WG direction is to identify the "must have" versus "nice to have" requirements, and to state clearly which requirements apply to applications / clients versus which apply to the storage systems. draft-song-decade-survey-04 : The WG direction is to incorporate the access control authorization and photo sharing example from http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rahman-decade-survey-00.txt. -- Rich and Haibin, DECADE co-chairs From: Woundy, Richard Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:16 PM To: 'decade@ietf.org' Cc: Haibin Song; Woundy, Richard Subject: Adopting drafts as DECADE WG documents Folks, As confirmation of the "hums" we took in the WG meeting today, please post on the list if there is any objection to moving the following drafts to DECADE WG drafts: draft-song-decade-problem-statement-02 draft-gu-decade-reqs-05 draft-song-decade-survey-04 If there are no objections by Tuesday, August 3 2010, the drafts above will be accepted as WG documents fulfilling the "problem statement", "requirements", and "survey" deliverables, respectively. -- Rich and Haibin --Boundary_(ID_mi/dJubRd3Mw94BPR+2ijw) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Dear Folks,

 

Sorry for sending this email so late. It should be confirmed by August 3.

 

draft-song-decade-problem-statement-02

draft-gu-decade-reqs-05

draft-song-decade-survey-04

 

Since there were no objections in the mailing list for the adoption (we have a few positive responses). The above three documents with the comments solved (see the previous email) will be accepted as the working group documents.

 

BR
Haibin and Rich (co-chairs)

 

From: Woundy, Richard [mailto:Richard_Woundy@cable.comcast.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:55 PM
To: decade@ietf.org
Cc: Haibin Song; Woundy, Richard
Subject: RE: Adopting drafts as DECADE WG documents

 

Folks,

 

For the sake of people that did not attend the IETF session (or couldn’t hear the audio etc), I wanted to communicate the following caveats / pre-requisites for two of the drafts:

 

draft-gu-decade-reqs-05: The WG direction is to identify the “must have” versus “nice to have” requirements, and to state clearly which requirements apply to applications / clients versus which apply to the storage systems.

 

draft-song-decade-survey-04: The WG direction is to incorporate the access control authorization and photo sharing example from http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-rahman-decade-survey-00.txt.

 

-- Rich and Haibin, DECADE co-chairs

 

From: Woundy, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:16 PM
To: 'decade@ietf.org'
Cc: Haibin Song; Woundy, Richard
Subject: Adopting drafts as DECADE WG documents

 

Folks,

 

As confirmation of the “hums” we took in the WG meeting today, please post on the list if there is any objection to moving the following drafts to DECADE WG drafts:

 

draft-song-decade-problem-statement-02

draft-gu-decade-reqs-05

draft-song-decade-survey-04

 

If there are no objections by Tuesday, August 3 2010, the drafts above will be accepted as WG documents fulfilling the "problem statement", "requirements", and “survey” deliverables, respectively.

 

-- Rich and Haibin

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