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If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > > > The poll ends 11 Decmber 2017. > > > > Thanks, > > Pat and Lou > --=20 DIEGO DUJOVNE Profesor Asociado Escuela de Inform=C3=A1tica y Telecomunicaciones Facultad de Ingenier=C3=ADa - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile www.ingenieria.udp.cl (56 2) 676 8125 --001a113d395e956c4f055f450595 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/Support

Le=C2=A0vendredi 1 d=C3=A9cembre 2017, Patrick Wetterwal= d (pwetterw) <pwetterw@cisco.com> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

Yes / Support.

=C2=A0

Patrick

=C2=A0

From= : detnet <detnet-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Pat Thale= r <pat.thaler@broadcom.com>
Date: Tuesday, 28 November 2017 at 00:37
To: "detnet@ietf.org" <detnet@ietf.org>
Subject: [Detnet] WG adoption poll draft-farkas-detnet-flow-inf= ormation-model

=C2=A0

All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-farkas-detnet-flow-information-model=C2=A0a=C2=A0working=C2=A0group=C2=A0doc= ument. Please
send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do no= t
support".=C2=A0 If indicating no, please state your reservations with = the
document.=C2=A0 If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd=
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.<= /u>

=C2=A0

The poll ends 11 Dec= mber 2017.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Pat and Lou



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DIE= GO DUJOVNE
Profesor Asociado
Escuela de Inform=C3=A1tica y Telecomuni= caciones
Facultad de Ingenier=C3=ADa - Universidad Diego Portales - Chil= e
www.ingenie= ria.udp.cl
(56 2) 676 8125

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Hi,

 

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Welcome Janos!

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you! Janos From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 7:00 PM To: detnet@ietf.org Cc: detnet-chairs@ietf.org; Janos Farkas Subject: New detnet Co-Chair Hi, We're be adding a 3rd Chair to help Pat and Lou, Janos Farkas. As many of y= ou know, Janos, has been involved in detnet making significant contribution= s. Janos is also Chair of IEEE's TSN TG. Welcome Janos! Deborah --_000_VI1PR07MB1294A97B1052D913EA326F43F2390VI1PR07MB1294eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you!

Janos

 

 

From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.= com]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 7:00 PM
To: detnet@ietf.org
Cc: detnet-chairs@ietf.org; Janos Farkas <Janos.Farkas@ericsson.c= om>
Subject: New detnet Co-Chair

 

Hi,

 

We’re be adding a 3rd Chair to help= Pat and Lou, Janos Farkas. As many of you know, Janos, has been involved i= n detnet making significant contributions. Janos is also Chair of IEEE̵= 7;s TSN TG.

 

Welcome Janos!

 

Deborah

 

 

 

--_000_VI1PR07MB1294A97B1052D913EA326F43F2390VI1PR07MB1294eurp_-- From nobody Fri Dec 1 13:58:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED881127A91 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:58:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O6RkQDSo9Ilt for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86B1F1270A3 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmgw3 (unknown [10.0.90.84]) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DE0140750 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 14:58:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id glyV1w00L2SSUrH01lyYk2; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:58:32 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=H76r+6Qi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=ocR9PWop10UA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=zCOAmxCYLAEbweQ3xiYA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=rKrVYePj7rwA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=n5htzqdNpqVtTD8cUKwBy4tX/Y/jPXsUb3xk9IEZwBM=; b=0GgknT+WA0Z52xbSY5CYK2sDa4 PjGnrbbSah2v+SPuNtCs1vU+xBOEipEKFeaNat06q9Y0tAj1LUZMPdn16UWILBEkFBB6ldI033SJc aDD76fsnKzsn02ooZp6Q3arZx; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:39554 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eKtKH-000hOz-Eq; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:58:29 -0700 To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "detnet@ietf.org" Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=a1nos_Farkas?= , "detnet-chairs@ietf.org" References: From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 16:58:28 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eKtKH-000hOz-Eq X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:39554 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] New detnet Co-Chair X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 21:58:36 -0000 All,     Please welcome Janos.  He's already provided key help in logistics for the proposed interim -- and obviously continues to contribute on the technical side and coordination with IEEE TSN. Lou On 12/1/2017 12:59 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > > Hi, > >   > > We’re be adding a 3^rd Chair to help Pat and Lou, Janos Farkas. As > many of you know, Janos, has been involved in detnet making > significant contributions. Janos is also Chair of IEEE’s TSN TG. > >   > > Welcome Janos! > >   > > Deborah > >   > >   > >   > > > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet From nobody Sun Dec 3 18:11:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A46127286; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:11:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nWebAy8PAHMK; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0679E12421A; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 2F8BC23DC0DDF; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 02:10:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.17.50) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 02:10:59 +0000 Received: from DGGEML510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.54]) by dggeml406-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.3.17.50]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:10:54 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Lou Berger , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "detnet@ietf.org" CC: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_Farkas?= , "detnet-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Detnet] New detnet Co-Chair Thread-Index: AdNqzFxLKIYsufH0SBWvyGL9TiEgBP//wDQA//wO53A= Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 02:10:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.194.201] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] New detnet Co-Chair X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 02:11:03 -0000 Welcome to Janos! Best regards, Mach > -----Original Message----- > From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 5:58 AM > To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A ; detnet@ietf.org > Cc: J=E1nos Farkas ; detnet-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Detnet] New detnet Co-Chair >=20 > All, >=20 > =A0=A0=A0 Please welcome Janos.=A0 He's already provided key help in logi= stics for the > proposed interim -- and obviously continues to contribute on the technica= l side > and coordination with IEEE TSN. >=20 > Lou >=20 >=20 > On 12/1/2017 12:59 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > We're be adding a 3^rd Chair to help Pat and Lou, Janos Farkas. As > > many of you know, Janos, has been involved in detnet making > > significant contributions. Janos is also Chair of IEEE's TSN TG. > > > > > > > > Welcome Janos! > > > > > > > > Deborah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > detnet mailing list > > detnet@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet >=20 > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet From nobody Sun Dec 3 22:09:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47847126D85 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 22:09:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no 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cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.2.136, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: dc935f2ec978067b43d0500fd88bb706 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 07:04:41 -0000 I'll be there for 802.1 and the Saturday worksho[ but I have to go home on = Sunday. Sorry.=0A= =0A= -- Norm=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger [lberger@lab= n.net]=0A= Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:28 PM=0A= To: DetNet WG=0A= Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs=0A= Subject: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim=0A= =0A= Subject: Polling for interest in DetNet Interim=0A= =0A= WG,=0A= =0A= At IETF100 it was suggested that we consider an interim meeting to have=0A= some more focused discussion on resolving current major topics in the=0A= WG, notably the data plane related open issues reviewed at IETF100.=0A= Some of our WG participants who also participate in IEEE 802.1 TSN have=0A= graciously offered to arrange for meeting space as part of their interim=0A= meeting and joint workshop with ITU-T Study Group 15.=0A= =0A= The purpose of this message is to gauge interest in participating in=0A= this meeting, and confirming that we have critical mass to formally=0A= schedule this interim.=0A= =0A= The proposed schedule is as follows:=0A= =0A= - Jan 26 Friday afternoon - IETF DetNet WG - IEEE 802.1 TSN TG joint=0A= session=0A= ** REQUIRED if don't already have ITU Badge=0A= - Jan 27 Saturday - (optional) Joint IEEE 802 and ITU-T Study Group 15=0A= workshop on Building Tomorrow=92s Networks=0A= //The afternoon is likely to be of interest to WG participants=0A= //while the morning should allow informal discussion time=0A= - Jan 28/29 Sunday/Monday -- IETF DetNet Interim=0A= =0A= It is important to note that the meeting location requires an ITU badge=0A= for access and that badging will be limited to Friday and Monday -- YOU=0A= MUST ATTEND FRIDAY if you wish to participate in meetings on Saturday=0A= and Sunday. There is no fee for attendance, but no snacks/cookies/food=0A= provided.=0A= =0A= If you are interested in attending, please send mail to the chairs or=0A= (preferably) fill out the doodle poll available at:=0A= https://doodle.com/poll/g23hnb7i3c54p97g=0A= Please let us know if you will definitely attend (if held) or would like=0A= to attend, but cannot yet commit.=0A= =0A= We'd like to confirm details in time for all to make travel=0A= arrangements. 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I think we're really borderline on having a useful meeting and I think if Jouni can't make it we won't have critical mass.  -- time to start thinking alternatives... Does anyone disagree? Jouni,     What do you think the chances are of you making the interim? Lou On 12/4/2017 2:04 AM, Norman Finn wrote: > I'll be there for 802.1 and the Saturday worksho[ but I have to go home on Sunday. Sorry. > > -- Norm > > ________________________________________ > From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:28 PM > To: DetNet WG > Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs > Subject: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim > > Subject: Polling for interest in DetNet Interim > > WG, > > At IETF100 it was suggested that we consider an interim meeting to have > some more focused discussion on resolving current major topics in the > WG, notably the data plane related open issues reviewed at IETF100. > Some of our WG participants who also participate in IEEE 802.1 TSN have > graciously offered to arrange for meeting space as part of their interim > meeting and joint workshop with ITU-T Study Group 15. > > The purpose of this message is to gauge interest in participating in > this meeting, and confirming that we have critical mass to formally > schedule this interim. > > The proposed schedule is as follows: > > - Jan 26 Friday afternoon - IETF DetNet WG - IEEE 802.1 TSN TG joint > session > ** REQUIRED if don't already have ITU Badge > - Jan 27 Saturday - (optional) Joint IEEE 802 and ITU-T Study Group 15 > workshop on Building Tomorrow’s Networks > //The afternoon is likely to be of interest to WG participants > //while the morning should allow informal discussion time > - Jan 28/29 Sunday/Monday -- IETF DetNet Interim > > It is important to note that the meeting location requires an ITU badge > for access and that badging will be limited to Friday and Monday -- YOU > MUST ATTEND FRIDAY if you wish to participate in meetings on Saturday > and Sunday. There is no fee for attendance, but no snacks/cookies/food > provided. > > If you are interested in attending, please send mail to the chairs or > (preferably) fill out the doodle poll available at: > https://doodle.com/poll/g23hnb7i3c54p97g > Please let us know if you will definitely attend (if held) or would like > to attend, but cannot yet commit. > > We'd like to confirm details in time for all to make travel > arrangements. 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( > > Patrick > > On 04/12/2017, 03:10, "detnet on behalf of Mach Chen" < > detnet-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of mach.chen@huawei.com> wrote: > > Welcome to Janos! > > Best regards, > Mach > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou > Berger > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 5:58 AM > > To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A ; detnet@ietf.org > > Cc: J=C3=A1nos Farkas ; detnet-chairs@ie= tf.org > > Subject: Re: [Detnet] New detnet Co-Chair > > > > All, > > > > Please welcome Janos. He's already provided key help in > logistics for the > > proposed interim -- and obviously continues to contribute on the > technical side > > and coordination with IEEE TSN. > > > > Lou > > > > > > On 12/1/2017 12:59 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > We're be adding a 3^rd Chair to help Pat and Lou, Janos Farkas. A= s > > > many of you know, Janos, has been involved in detnet making > > > significant contributions. Janos is also Chair of IEEE's TSN TG. > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome Janos! > > > > > > > > > > > > Deborah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > detnet mailing list > > > detnet@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > > > _______________________________________________ > > detnet mailing list > > detnet@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > --=20 DIEGO DUJOVNE Profesor Asociado Escuela de Inform=C3=A1tica y Telecomunicaciones Facultad de Ingenier=C3=ADa - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile www.ingenieria.udp.cl (56 2) 676 8125 --001a113d328e479ff5055f83c171 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes/Support

2017-12-04 10:30 GMT-03:00 Patrick Wetterwald (pwetterw) <= span dir=3D"ltr"><pwetterw@cisco.com>:
Yes/= support=C2=A0!!!!!=C2=A0 =C2=A0(

Patrick

On 04/12/2017, 03:10, "detnet on behalf of Mach Chen" <detnet-bounces@ietf.org on behalf o= f mach.chen@huawei.com> wrot= e:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Welcome to Janos!

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Best regards,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mach

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > -----Original Message-----
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 5:58 AM
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <db3546@att.com>; detnet@iet= f.org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Cc: J=C3=A1nos Farkas <janos.farkas@ericsson.com>; detnet-chairs@ietf.org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Subject: Re: [Detnet] New detnet Co-Chair
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > All,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please welcome Janos.=C2=A0 He's = already provided key help in logistics for the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > proposed interim -- and obviously continues to contribut= e on the technical side
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > and coordination with IEEE TSN.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Lou
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > On 12/1/2017 12:59 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > Hi,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > We're be adding a 3^rd Chair to help Pat and Lo= u, Janos Farkas. As
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > many of you know, Janos, has been involved in detne= t making
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > significant contributions. Janos is also Chair of I= EEE's TSN TG.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > Welcome Janos!
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > Deborah
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > ______________________________________________= _
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > detnet mailing list
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > detnet@ietf.org<= /a>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > _______________________________________________
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > detnet mailing list
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > detnet@ietf.org =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/lis= tinfo/detnet

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________
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--001a113d328e479ff5055f83c171-- From nobody Mon Dec 4 09:13:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CC6126579; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:13:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tyokqXCWMUOu; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrg12-dlp.huawei.com (lhrrg12-dlp.huawei.com [194.213.3.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACE891242EA; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.65 (EHLO DFWPML706-CHM.exmail.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.65]) by lhrrg12-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BLS28403; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 17:13:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DFWPML705-CHM.exmail.huawei.com ([169.254.2.136]) by DFWPML706-CHM.exmail.huawei.com ([169.254.3.74]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:13:01 -0800 From: Norman Finn To: Lou Berger , DetNet WG CC: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)" , DetNet Chairs , Jouni Korhonen Thread-Topic: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim Thread-Index: AQHTZ9eQUpL2+1MA3Em3KN+ZYQb/aaMyzFW4gADdOYD//8ziow== Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:13:00 +0000 Message-ID: <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4324@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> References: <988b4e9f-a95f-47a7-be57-6dfcd6dcafbc@labn.net> <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4284@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com>, <8b1c878c-baa3-d2cc-9fda-f11f5b230d73@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <8b1c878c-baa3-d2cc-9fda-f11f5b230d73@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.4.35] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020205.5A258221.02E4, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.2.136, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: dc935f2ec978067b43d0500fd88bb706 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 17:13:24 -0000 I've been thinking. I don't want to be the one that prevents the meeting. = I will stay over if it makes critical mass.=0A= =0A= -- Norm=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net]=0A= Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 4:15 AM=0A= To: Norman Finn; DetNet WG=0A= Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs; Jouni Korhonen=0A= Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim=0A= =0A= Hi Norm,=0A= =0A= I understand, but unfortunate. I think we're really borderline on=0A= having a useful meeting and I think if Jouni can't make it we won't have=0A= critical mass. -- time to start thinking alternatives...=0A= =0A= Does anyone disagree?=0A= =0A= Jouni,=0A= =0A= What do you think the chances are of you making the interim?=0A= =0A= Lou=0A= =0A= On 12/4/2017 2:04 AM, Norman Finn wrote:=0A= > I'll be there for 802.1 and the Saturday worksho[ but I have to go home o= n Sunday. Sorry.=0A= >=0A= > -- Norm=0A= >=0A= > ________________________________________=0A= > From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger [lberger@l= abn.net]=0A= > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:28 PM=0A= > To: DetNet WG=0A= > Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs=0A= > Subject: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim=0A= >=0A= > Subject: Polling for interest in DetNet Interim=0A= >=0A= > WG,=0A= >=0A= > At IETF100 it was suggested that we consider an interim meeting to have= =0A= > some more focused discussion on resolving current major topics in the=0A= > WG, notably the data plane related open issues reviewed at IETF100.=0A= > Some of our WG participants who also participate in IEEE 802.1 TSN have= =0A= > graciously offered to arrange for meeting space as part of their interim= =0A= > meeting and joint workshop with ITU-T Study Group 15.=0A= >=0A= > The purpose of this message is to gauge interest in participating in=0A= > this meeting, and confirming that we have critical mass to formally=0A= > schedule this interim.=0A= >=0A= > The proposed schedule is as follows:=0A= >=0A= > - Jan 26 Friday afternoon - IETF DetNet WG - IEEE 802.1 TSN TG joint=0A= > session=0A= > ** REQUIRED if don't already have ITU Badge=0A= > - Jan 27 Saturday - (optional) Joint IEEE 802 and ITU-T Study Group 15=0A= > workshop on Building Tomorrow=92s Networks=0A= > //The afternoon is likely to be of interest to WG participants=0A= > //while the morning should allow informal discussion time=0A= > - Jan 28/29 Sunday/Monday -- IETF DetNet Interim=0A= >=0A= > It is important to note that the meeting location requires an ITU badge= =0A= > for access and that badging will be limited to Friday and Monday -- YOU= =0A= > MUST ATTEND FRIDAY if you wish to participate in meetings on Saturday=0A= > and Sunday. There is no fee for attendance, but no snacks/cookies/food= =0A= > provided.=0A= >=0A= > If you are interested in attending, please send mail to the chairs or=0A= > (preferably) fill out the doodle poll available at:=0A= > https://doodle.com/poll/g23hnb7i3c54p97g=0A= > Please let us know if you will definitely attend (if held) or would like= =0A= > to attend, but cannot yet commit.=0A= >=0A= > We'd like to confirm details in time for all to make travel=0A= > arrangements. If at all possible please respond by COB December 4, if=0A= > not earlier.=0A= >=0A= > Thank you,=0A= > Pat and Lou=0A= >=0A= > _______________________________________________=0A= > detnet mailing list=0A= > detnet@ietf.org=0A= > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet=0A= >=0A= =0A= From nobody Mon Dec 4 09:20:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339D5124B0A for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:20:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=imt-atlantique.fr Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nP6CmTvbUq9m for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from zproxy120.enst.fr (zproxy120.enst.fr [IPv6:2001:660:330f:2::c1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2D79124239 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zproxy120.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6407C81776; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:20:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from zproxy120.enst.fr ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (zproxy120.enst.fr [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id bQy-JJHqLugh; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:20:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zproxy120.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B748174E; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:20:04 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 zproxy120.enst.fr C0B748174E DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imt-atlantique.fr; s=50EA75E8-DE22-11E6-A6DE-0662BA474D24; t=1512408004; bh=QyemNFRpj4TLJneBCFoofLtBnipVW75GHzY0HTA7v78=; h=From:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version; b=pDeg17DLjWfgXUmdqllxP5dCDeso/Yn5QuOimygZ405aeqr6TUGLiy7KuvJf7Ci9z 5jl29MRf3ZOAmFxQMV6pclIZHZpM0Y1SFpPFFKbH3jb2CHIB/rBjQkya3usvBSFMij GLxMsh3eJLYbL4vIrl/JoioZLXf0jqvRHJf+qJ9s= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zproxy120.enst.fr Received: from zproxy120.enst.fr ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (zproxy120.enst.fr [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 9rCJ_8GWvC3y; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:20:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:2001:660:7301:3728:15db:9f59:5af9:b87b] (unknown [IPv6:2001:660:7301:3728:15db:9f59:5af9:b87b]) by zproxy120.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8AAFF8177A; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:20:04 +0100 (CET) From: "Georgios Z. Papadopoulos" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:20:04 +0100 Message-Id: <3E97EFFC-71DF-4ECC-880C-F1F53F37AE03@imt-atlantique.fr> Cc: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: detnet@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] Review of draft-thubert-bier-replication-elimination-01 X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 17:20:14 -0000 Hello Pascal and all, First of all, thank you for your work.=20 After going through this draft, I would have the following = comments/questions (technical and editorial): */ Administration, and Maintenance (OAM): it is defined twice in page 2 = last paragraph and page 3 first line */ OPEX in page 3 4th paragraph is not clear to me what is it */ page 3 paragraph 5: to setup path or paths? */ page 3 last line, "calculated off path=E2=80=9D shall be rephrased?=20= */ page 4 firt paragraph: definitions BFER and BFR, I know that they are = defined somewhere in draft/rfc, but in this context would be nice to = dedicate one sentence to explain them. Otherwise, it is hard to follow = these bullet points. */ page 4 paragraph 3: at the end of this sentence there is an extra = space before the .dot */ page 4 paragraph 6: It would be essential to define the concept of = =E2=80=9Cladder=E2=80=9D. Since, we may have different type of ladders. */ page 5 Table 1: line three I=E2=80=94>C has a typo. It should be I = =E2=80=94> B */ page 5 last paragraph is missing ".dot=E2=80=9D */ page 5 Figure 3: The procedure here are not clear to me. We are = having first Replication and then Fwd OR vice versa? Then, it is replicated from whom to whom? */ page 6 last paragraph: a parenthesis is closed, but never opened. */ page 7 first paragraph: what about having over-provisioning = transmissions. It might improve such scenarios? Best, Georgios From nobody Mon Dec 4 10:09:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB91127B60 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:09:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LG7L4mi0k-wo for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:09:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from outbound-ss-1812.hostmonster.com (gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.25.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45DE5127B31 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:09:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from CMOut01 (cmgw2 [10.0.90.82]) by gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E721175A13 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:09:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id hu9j1w00C2SSUrH01u9mY8; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:09:47 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=K4VSJ2eI c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=ocR9PWop10UA:10 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=_JY9ZxHVAAAA:8 a=78e-9Dq8yYSTBLckXE8A:9 a=V8Ks5XERXrOYmTYP:21 a=_vEWnS7I_2GVOHsW:21 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=Yz9wTY_ffGCQnEDHKrcv:22 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=N0PqsDoihMXiOfyGJobBGMKJcBu7a5fBBteXVLBxnqE=; b=JTOscodwRw3lmktaNWSq/19rL6 AEupwlA4OI0Tvu9pesm00ajrvC68gmbCHUfUKR7lt/wy1wh71i/dc1FtBkiVm2LI55wNXWe877bqA /Zh7xbmW5j8eu4h70dAm0RmTS; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:50936 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eLvBW-000QHq-UA; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:09:43 -0700 To: Norman Finn , DetNet WG Cc: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)" , DetNet Chairs , Jouni Korhonen References: <988b4e9f-a95f-47a7-be57-6dfcd6dcafbc@labn.net> <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4284@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> <8b1c878c-baa3-d2cc-9fda-f11f5b230d73@labn.net> <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4324@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 13:09:41 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4324@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eLvBW-000QHq-UA X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:50936 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:09:55 -0000 Norm,     That's a hugely generous offer that we may take you up on.  My feeling is that with the current list of respondents, we'd really need both you and Jouni to be there to have the meeting.  I'd like to hear from others on this list what they think and Jouni before we (all) commit. Comments? Lou PS as a reminder, we wan to finalized if we hold this meeting or not this week. On 12/4/2017 12:13 PM, Norman Finn wrote: > I've been thinking. I don't want to be the one that prevents the meeting. I will stay over if it makes critical mass. > > -- Norm > > ________________________________________ > From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 4:15 AM > To: Norman Finn; DetNet WG > Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs; Jouni Korhonen > Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim > > Hi Norm, > > I understand, but unfortunate. I think we're really borderline on > having a useful meeting and I think if Jouni can't make it we won't have > critical mass. -- time to start thinking alternatives... > > Does anyone disagree? > > Jouni, > > What do you think the chances are of you making the interim? > > Lou > > On 12/4/2017 2:04 AM, Norman Finn wrote: >> I'll be there for 802.1 and the Saturday worksho[ but I have to go home on Sunday. Sorry. >> >> -- Norm >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:28 PM >> To: DetNet WG >> Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs >> Subject: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim >> >> Subject: Polling for interest in DetNet Interim >> >> WG, >> >> At IETF100 it was suggested that we consider an interim meeting to have >> some more focused discussion on resolving current major topics in the >> WG, notably the data plane related open issues reviewed at IETF100. >> Some of our WG participants who also participate in IEEE 802.1 TSN have >> graciously offered to arrange for meeting space as part of their interim >> meeting and joint workshop with ITU-T Study Group 15. >> >> The purpose of this message is to gauge interest in participating in >> this meeting, and confirming that we have critical mass to formally >> schedule this interim. >> >> The proposed schedule is as follows: >> >> - Jan 26 Friday afternoon - IETF DetNet WG - IEEE 802.1 TSN TG joint >> session >> ** REQUIRED if don't already have ITU Badge >> - Jan 27 Saturday - (optional) Joint IEEE 802 and ITU-T Study Group 15 >> workshop on Building Tomorrow’s Networks >> //The afternoon is likely to be of interest to WG participants >> //while the morning should allow informal discussion time >> - Jan 28/29 Sunday/Monday -- IETF DetNet Interim >> >> It is important to note that the meeting location requires an ITU badge >> for access and that badging will be limited to Friday and Monday -- YOU >> MUST ATTEND FRIDAY if you wish to participate in meetings on Saturday >> and Sunday. There is no fee for attendance, but no snacks/cookies/food >> provided. >> >> If you are interested in attending, please send mail to the chairs or >> (preferably) fill out the doodle poll available at: >> https://doodle.com/poll/g23hnb7i3c54p97g >> Please let us know if you will definitely attend (if held) or would like >> to attend, but cannot yet commit. >> >> We'd like to confirm details in time for all to make travel >> arrangements. If at all possible please respond by COB December 4, if >> not earlier. >> >> Thank you, >> Pat and Lou >> >> _______________________________________________ >> detnet mailing list >> detnet@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet >> > From nobody Mon Dec 4 15:37:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC252128DF3 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:37:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RbjLJ7Rs-j-v for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lf0-x22d.google.com (mail-lf0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1D04128D40 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 94so21145961lfy.10 for ; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 15:37:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LAWD0nATAKTz/iXAKRa1iAXgBM3hoW4vDBwog5dEwQQ=; b=ki0z/y4Y8NbwIJYG4424jwf1ZWyoU+C3BVVLK1+xbizHqKV/8ZSveLAfUsEJqimBdE bQQ2M+s1AQRBFJhxVgMHEGpYQoV5MjO4Pwlr0g+Q3QFTYr46nZNw18p6JRZ3kLfX0toB X5AuBU1SGBe/2ST6xamhl+XrxCRddXhCbsiVeFu2bnDgZTeA5bsVRJwlaXs5PgTVdCpO uo0mu8yrL8Tjtzyhq35x7FSVAidZB2A4wGCir7jb0kT8nmKCAZ68sWSOlsmbT6Z5idwT WyUqkgcaRgPUVMlTSUR0/S/uWF9/cz8kbLoYuUcoPQCXrZjrB1GBNr8FpC0TIEeKWcwJ /HPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LAWD0nATAKTz/iXAKRa1iAXgBM3hoW4vDBwog5dEwQQ=; b=hJD8edSTzaqSqewxPkZAbK0Ft10ROVYEsIddJRkP9EssWMI5OsMItMbUndJgGxYu6V JSkWYuFemJpVLnBY5j8vK2wgQWQeGYaD+dci+6de0N20CYVaZWMz20r6DRH1gmFzKEam FzBWwhhW98wEV+ZmgxBqV+mk7v2iS/Bn6U9RLb4FNCmWeNKiQxtljbt26EgXJN2HA/T1 HY8NoHfOq9/EPgLmwxRMUcRV5Gfdq6U7ORnCHfi0icWojk0lWTsigGoFZ1UmrOlZEv9E UY90WNRCZ7Kq3hOaH82NWAQMjU9Kj6jod8IgS8bzVN6hm1SRDmVf+ZpsWrPQhBI1Rrv8 6xVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX75k9KJ4j2IPV8oyo/G8+WfJbWGuGoz5s5V27ii0Untt7ItHmhX rTvb663KWMLSjEkkwuf4c848ChcUHRDB2c3tSAvTRg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYC387mCQxmuW9ViRp4iAlCaB3eTWc5Ya+9LMmVFO4jD8Vt/2s2zmSoj/TVb60ykbcewF8z6K9fPbkPkbVcYiE= X-Received: by 10.25.161.132 with SMTP id k126mr7705992lfe.110.1512430672171; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 15:37:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.46.32.136 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 15:37:51 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Mirsky Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:37:51 -0600 Message-ID: To: detnet@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113f21ecf65f26055f8c3479" Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] Netslicing use case clarification X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 23:37:57 -0000 --001a113f21ecf65f26055f8c3479 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear Authors, et. al, at the meeting in Singapore I've made a comment about mapping between 3GPP use cases and Detnet. And I took an action to provide text that may be used in the draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases. Please kindly consider the following: Initial analysis of new services and market enablers by 3GPP listed more than 70 use cases. These were later grouped into four service categories identifying service and network requirements: - Enhanced Mobile Broadband (eMBB) mainly focuses on facilitating high data rates. eMBB aims to enable a broadband connectivity across heterogeneous networks including also fixed mobile convergence, assure broadband connectivity even under high user and vehicle mobility and support devices with highly variable data rates. Hence, eMBB requires high network capacity, predictable latency and high network availability. - Ultra-Reliable Low Latency Communications (URLLC) enables services requiring ultra reliability and low latency, facilitating mission critical services, vehicular communications, industrial automation and control, Augmented Reality/Virtual Reality (AR/VR), tactile Internet, public safety, disaster and emergency response, etc. URLLC requires assuring the desired isolation, prioritization, rapid communication setup, very low jitter, location precision, etc. - Vehicle to Everything (V2X) focuses on: - safety-related services; - autonomous driving ; - comfort services. Two first areas are considered as special cases of URLLC category of use cases. - - Massive Internet of Things (MIoT) facilitates connectivity for stationary devices with non-time critical service requirements considering a very high amount/density of devices. I believe that URLLC and two of V2X service categories are the most suitable to DetNet. Appreciate your questions, comments. Regards, Greg --001a113f21ecf65f26055f8c3479 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Authors, et. al,
at the meeting in Singapore I= 9;ve made a comment about mapping between 3GPP use cases and Detnet. And I = took an action to provide text that may be used in the=C2=A0draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases. Please = kindly consider the following:

Ini= tial analysis of new services and market enablers by 3GPP listed more than = 70 use cases. These were later grouped into four service categories identif= ying service and network requirements:

  • Enhanced Mobile Broadband (eMBB)= =C2=A0mainly focuses on facilitating high data rates. eMBB aims to enable a= broadband connectivity across heterogeneous networks including also fixed = mobile convergence, assure broadband connectivity even under high user and = vehicle mobility and support devices with highly variable data rates.=C2=A0=
    Hence, eMBB requires high network capacity, predictable latency and hig= h network availability.
  • Ultra-Reliable Low Latency Communications (URLLC)=C2=A0enables = services requiring ultra reliability and low latency, facilitating mission = critical services, vehicular communications, industrial automation and cont= rol, Augmented Reality/Virtual Reality (AR/VR), tactile Internet, public sa= fety, disaster and emergency response, etc. URLLC requires assuring the des= ired isolation, prioritization, rapid communication setup, very low jitter,= location precision, etc.=C2=A0
  • Vehicle to Ever= ything (V2X)=C2=A0focuses on:
    • safety-related services;
    • a= utonomous driving ;
    • comfort services.
Two first a= reas are considered as special cases of URLLC category of use cases.=
  • Massive Internet of Things (= MIoT)=C2=A0facilitates connectivity for stationary devices with non-time cr= itical service requirements considering a very high amount/density of devic= es.=C2=A0

I be= lieve that=C2=A0 URLLC and two of V2X service categories are the most suita= ble to DetNet.=C2=A0

Appreciate your questions, comments.

Regards,
Greg
--001a113f21ecf65f26055f8c3479-- From nobody Mon Dec 4 18:41:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B8D1201F8; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:41:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2g8rarOqPFc2; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F159120046; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (unknown [119.94.161.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 389BB180157E; Tue, 5 Dec 2017 03:41:11 +0100 (CET) To: Lou Berger Cc: Norman Finn , DetNet WG , Jouni Korhonen , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)" , DetNet Chairs References: <988b4e9f-a95f-47a7-be57-6dfcd6dcafbc@labn.net> <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4284@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> <8b1c878c-baa3-d2cc-9fda-f11f5b230d73@labn.net> <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4324@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <3594943d-74b8-6ad1-4a36-0d2305378ea2@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 10:41:07 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 02:41:23 -0000 Lou, If there will be a meeting (I sincerely hope there will be), will you arrange for a possibility to participate (or at least listen) remote, I think I can find a back channel via Jabber/Skype/WebEx to channel comments into the meeting. /Loa On 2017-12-05 02:09, Lou Berger wrote: > Norm, > >     That's a hugely generous offer that we may take you up on.  My > feeling is that with the current list of respondents, we'd really need > both you and Jouni to be there to have the meeting. > > I'd like to hear from others on this list what they think and Jouni > before we (all) commit. > > Comments? > > Lou > PS as a reminder, we wan to finalized if we hold this meeting or not > this week. > > On 12/4/2017 12:13 PM, Norman Finn wrote: >> I've been thinking. I don't want to be the one that prevents the meeting. I will stay over if it makes critical mass. >> >> -- Norm >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 4:15 AM >> To: Norman Finn; DetNet WG >> Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs; Jouni Korhonen >> Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim >> >> Hi Norm, >> >> I understand, but unfortunate. I think we're really borderline on >> having a useful meeting and I think if Jouni can't make it we won't have >> critical mass. -- time to start thinking alternatives... >> >> Does anyone disagree? >> >> Jouni, >> >> What do you think the chances are of you making the interim? >> >> Lou >> >> On 12/4/2017 2:04 AM, Norman Finn wrote: >>> I'll be there for 802.1 and the Saturday worksho[ but I have to go home on Sunday. Sorry. >>> >>> -- Norm >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] >>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:28 PM >>> To: DetNet WG >>> Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs >>> Subject: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim >>> >>> Subject: Polling for interest in DetNet Interim >>> >>> WG, >>> >>> At IETF100 it was suggested that we consider an interim meeting to have >>> some more focused discussion on resolving current major topics in the >>> WG, notably the data plane related open issues reviewed at IETF100. >>> Some of our WG participants who also participate in IEEE 802.1 TSN have >>> graciously offered to arrange for meeting space as part of their interim >>> meeting and joint workshop with ITU-T Study Group 15. >>> >>> The purpose of this message is to gauge interest in participating in >>> this meeting, and confirming that we have critical mass to formally >>> schedule this interim. >>> >>> The proposed schedule is as follows: >>> >>> - Jan 26 Friday afternoon - IETF DetNet WG - IEEE 802.1 TSN TG joint >>> session >>> ** REQUIRED if don't already have ITU Badge >>> - Jan 27 Saturday - (optional) Joint IEEE 802 and ITU-T Study Group 15 >>> workshop on Building Tomorrow’s Networks >>> //The afternoon is likely to be of interest to WG participants >>> //while the morning should allow informal discussion time >>> - Jan 28/29 Sunday/Monday -- IETF DetNet Interim >>> >>> It is important to note that the meeting location requires an ITU badge >>> for access and that badging will be limited to Friday and Monday -- YOU >>> MUST ATTEND FRIDAY if you wish to participate in meetings on Saturday >>> and Sunday. There is no fee for attendance, but no snacks/cookies/food >>> provided. >>> >>> If you are interested in attending, please send mail to the chairs or >>> (preferably) fill out the doodle poll available at: >>> https://doodle.com/poll/g23hnb7i3c54p97g >>> Please let us know if you will definitely attend (if held) or would like >>> to attend, but cannot yet commit. >>> >>> We'd like to confirm details in time for all to make travel >>> arrangements. If at all possible please respond by COB December 4, if >>> not earlier. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Pat and Lou >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> detnet mailing list >>> detnet@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Mon Dec 4 20:37:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45471241FC; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 20:37:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N8cxTzgkrVnt; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 20:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0a-000fd501.pphosted.com (mx0a-000fd501.pphosted.com [67.231.144.242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E4B6120454; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 20:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0045961.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-000fd501.pphosted.com (8.16.0.21/8.16.0.21) with SMTP id vB54at9b024263; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 20:37:06 -0800 Received: from dlb-xchpw03.dolby.net (dcd-outbound.dolby.com [67.216.187.124]) by mx0a-000fd501.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 2ekrk1x5dy-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 04 Dec 2017 20:37:06 -0800 Received: from DLB-XCHPW03.dolby.net (10.233.7.3) by DLB-XCHPW03.dolby.net (10.233.7.3) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 20:37:04 -0800 Received: from DLB-XCHPW03.dolby.net ([10.103.9.186]) by DLB-XCHPW03.dolby.net ([10.103.9.186]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 20:37:04 -0800 From: "Grossman, Ethan A." To: Loa Andersson , Lou Berger CC: Norman Finn , Jouni Korhonen , DetNet WG , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)" , DetNet Chairs Thread-Topic: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim Thread-Index: AQHTZ9eF0B7LqSu1BUSgdTEmOpnUM6MzUp2AgABW8YCAAFMkAIAAD9eAgACO5ID//5ouoA== Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 04:37:03 +0000 Message-ID: <4901e757b5be45f7b06844673447acf1@DLB-XCHPW03.dolby.net> References: <988b4e9f-a95f-47a7-be57-6dfcd6dcafbc@labn.net> <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4284@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> <8b1c878c-baa3-d2cc-9fda-f11f5b230d73@labn.net> <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF4324@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> <3594943d-74b8-6ad1-4a36-0d2305378ea2@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <3594943d-74b8-6ad1-4a36-0d2305378ea2@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.233.7.60] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2017-12-05_02:, , signatures=0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 04:37:12 -0000 I also would listen in for at least part of it.=20 Ethan. -----Original Message----- From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 6:41 PM To: Lou Berger Cc: Norman Finn ; Jouni Korhonen ; DetNet WG ; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS) <= db3546@att.com>; DetNet Chairs Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim Lou, If there will be a meeting (I sincerely hope there will be), will you arran= ge for a possibility to participate (or at least listen) remote, I think I = can find a back channel via Jabber/Skype/WebEx to channel comments into the= meeting. /Loa On 2017-12-05 02:09, Lou Berger wrote: > Norm, >=20 > =A0=A0=A0 That's a hugely generous offer that we may take you up on.=A0 = My=20 > feeling is that with the current list of respondents, we'd really need=20 > both you and Jouni to be there to have the meeting. >=20 > I'd like to hear from others on this list what they think and Jouni=20 > before we (all) commit. >=20 > Comments? >=20 > Lou > PS as a reminder, we wan to finalized if we hold this meeting or not=20 > this week. >=20 > On 12/4/2017 12:13 PM, Norman Finn wrote: >> I've been thinking. I don't want to be the one that prevents the meetin= g. I will stay over if it makes critical mass. >> >> -- Norm >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Lou Berger [lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 4:15 AM >> To: Norman Finn; DetNet WG >> Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs; Jouni Korhonen >> Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim >> >> Hi Norm, >> >> I understand, but unfortunate. I think we're really borderline=20 >> on having a useful meeting and I think if Jouni can't make it we=20 >> won't have critical mass. -- time to start thinking alternatives... >> >> Does anyone disagree? >> >> Jouni, >> >> What do you think the chances are of you making the interim? >> >> Lou >> >> On 12/4/2017 2:04 AM, Norman Finn wrote: >>> I'll be there for 802.1 and the Saturday worksho[ but I have to go home= on Sunday. Sorry. >>> >>> -- Norm >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger=20 >>> [lberger@labn.net] >>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:28 PM >>> To: DetNet WG >>> Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS); DetNet Chairs >>> Subject: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim >>> >>> Subject: Polling for interest in DetNet Interim >>> >>> WG, >>> >>> At IETF100 it was suggested that we consider an interim meeting to=20 >>> have some more focused discussion on resolving current major topics=20 >>> in the WG, notably the data plane related open issues reviewed at IETF1= 00. >>> Some of our WG participants who also participate in IEEE 802.1 TSN=20 >>> have graciously offered to arrange for meeting space as part of=20 >>> their interim meeting and joint workshop with ITU-T Study Group 15. >>> >>> The purpose of this message is to gauge interest in participating in=20 >>> this meeting, and confirming that we have critical mass to formally=20 >>> schedule this interim. >>> >>> The proposed schedule is as follows: >>> >>> - Jan 26 Friday afternoon - IETF DetNet WG - IEEE 802.1 TSN TG=20 >>> joint session >>> ** REQUIRED if don't already have ITU Badge >>> - Jan 27 Saturday - (optional) Joint IEEE 802 and ITU-T Study Group 15 >>> workshop on Building Tomorrow's Networks >>> //The afternoon is likely to be of interest to WG participants >>> //while the morning should allow informal discussion time >>> - Jan 28/29 Sunday/Monday -- IETF DetNet Interim >>> >>> It is important to note that the meeting location requires an ITU=20 >>> badge for access and that badging will be limited to Friday and=20 >>> Monday -- YOU MUST ATTEND FRIDAY if you wish to participate in=20 >>> meetings on Saturday and Sunday. There is no fee for attendance,=20 >>> but no snacks/cookies/food provided. >>> >>> If you are interested in attending, please send mail to the chairs=20 >>> or >>> (preferably) fill out the doodle poll available at: >>> https://doodle.com/poll/g23hnb7i3c54p97g >>> Please let us know if you will definitely attend (if held) or would=20 >>> like to attend, but cannot yet commit. >>> >>> We'd like to confirm details in time for all to make travel=20 >>> arrangements. If at all possible please respond by COB December 4,=20 >>> if not earlier. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Pat and Lou >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> detnet mailing list >>> detnet@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet >>> >> >=20 > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet >=20 --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 _______________________________________________ detnet mailing list detnet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet From nobody Mon Dec 4 23:03:43 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70615126C83 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 23:03:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AwPlmreGm05L for ; 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Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:35956 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eMEhK-00016H-10; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 07:59:50 -0700 To: DetNet WG Cc: DetNet Chairs From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:59:48 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eMEhK-00016H-10 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:35956 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 11 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] Draft Minutes uploaded X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 14:59:58 -0000 Hi,     Thanks you Jouni and other note takers, our draft minutes have been uploaded.  Please make any corrections you think are necessary via etherpad at http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-100-detnet Keep in mind that only points made at the mic should be reflected in the minutes.  Any additional points or related followup should be made on the list. Thank you! DetNet Chairs From nobody Wed Dec 6 03:39:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C951241F5 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 03:39:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.633 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.633 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QEJutvtjwCD8 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 03:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34A5D124217 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 03:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id vB6BdlcQ049139 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 12:39:47 +0100 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 52F2B204B79 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 12:39:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49949204A73 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 12:39:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.8.34.184] (is227335.intra.cea.fr [10.8.34.184]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.4) with ESMTP id vB6Bdk3t029954 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 12:39:47 +0100 To: detnet@ietf.org References: From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <7aa86019-20e0-0683-7220-e261bc7a282a@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 12:39:46 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Netslicing use case clarification - V2X for IPWAVE WG X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 11:39:51 -0000 Le 05/12/2017 à 00:37, Greg Mirsky a écrit : > Dear Authors, et. al, > at the meeting in Singapore I've made a comment about mapping between > 3GPP use cases and Detnet. And I took an action to provide text that may > be used in the draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases. Please kindly consider the > following: > > Initial analysis of new services and market enablers by 3GPP listed > more than 70 use cases. These were later grouped into four service > categories identifying service and network requirements: > > * Enhanced Mobile Broadband (eMBB) mainly focuses on facilitating > high data rates. eMBB aims to enable a broadband connectivity > across heterogeneous networks including also fixed mobile > convergence, assure broadband connectivity even under high user > and vehicle mobility and support devices with highly variable > data rates. > Hence, eMBB requires high network capacity, predictable latency > and high network availability. > * Ultra-Reliable Low Latency Communications (URLLC) enables > services requiring ultra reliability and low latency, > facilitating mission critical services, vehicular > communications, industrial automation and control, Augmented > Reality/Virtual Reality (AR/VR), tactile Internet, public > safety, disaster and emergency response, etc. URLLC requires > assuring the desired isolation, prioritization, rapid > communication setup, very low jitter, location precision, etc. > * Vehicle to Everything (V2X) focuses on: > o safety-related services; > o autonomous driving ; > o comfort services. > > Two first areas are considered as special cases of URLLC > category of use cases. For whatever is vehicular you can bring it to the IPWAVE WG ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its For example, one possible perspective in IPWAVE is that a V2X message CAM of Europe, or BSM of America, is sent on the 3GPP link too, instead of just sent on the 802.11-OCB link. If that message is critical, then a QoS field Traffic Class in 3GPP headers could be mapped into a similar field of 802.11-OCB headers. The autonomous driving and the comfort services parts of V2X can also be of high relevance in IPWAVE WG. For 'netslicing', I heard about first demos of "sliced 5G" for cars. Alex From nobody Fri Dec 8 15:22:14 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6587126B7E; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 15:22:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T8waACcQsjfo; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 15:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dggwg11-dlp.huawei.com (lhrrg12-dlp.huawei.com [194.213.3.62]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D3F5120227; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 15:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from DFWPML706-CHM.exmail.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.65]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id EB2EAC3EC048A; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 23:21:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DFWPML705-CHM.exmail.huawei.com ([169.254.2.136]) by DFWPML706-CHM.exmail.huawei.com ([169.254.3.74]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Fri, 8 Dec 2017 15:21:52 -0800 From: Norman Finn To: Lou Berger , DetNet WG CC: DetNet Chairs Thread-Topic: [Detnet] Draft Minutes uploaded Thread-Index: AQHTbdnHvVclYX1f1kS9T8wWA0k73aM6Gq4p Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 23:21:51 +0000 Message-ID: <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8CF459C@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.4.33] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Draft Minutes uploaded X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 23:22:14 -0000 Correction: Line 122 (the last "Norm:" quote). There is a missing "not". = I said that we should NOT require a specific implementation.=0A= =0A= -- Norm=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger [lberger@lab= n.net]=0A= Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 6:59 AM=0A= To: DetNet WG=0A= Cc: DetNet Chairs=0A= Subject: [Detnet] Draft Minutes uploaded=0A= =0A= Hi,=0A= =0A= Thanks you Jouni and other note takers, our draft minutes have been=0A= uploaded. Please make any corrections you think are necessary via=0A= etherpad at=0A= =0A= http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-100-detnet=0A= =0A= Keep in mind that only points made at the mic should be reflected in the=0A= minutes. 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There is a missing = "not". I said that we should NOT require a specific implementation. >=20 > -- Norm >=20 > ________________________________________ > From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger = [lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 6:59 AM > To: DetNet WG > Cc: DetNet Chairs > Subject: [Detnet] Draft Minutes uploaded >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Thanks you Jouni and other note takers, our draft minutes have been > uploaded. Please make any corrections you think are necessary via > etherpad at >=20 > http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-100-detnet >=20 > Keep in mind that only points made at the mic should be reflected in = the > minutes. Any additional points or related followup should be made on > the list. >=20 > Thank you! >=20 > DetNet Chairs >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet From nobody Mon Dec 11 08:25:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FEB127076 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:25:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Syxo7AZHR9t5 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98709126DEE for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmgw2 (unknown [10.0.90.83]) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741E4140593 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:25:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id kgRm1w00Q2SSUrH01gRpAB; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:25:50 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=doKrMxo4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=ocR9PWop10UA:10 a=_JY9ZxHVAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=DbEeQUyOkFLv4nwUXhIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:References:Cc:To:From:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rVKLJZ+1bu0uyJyG02In1dgNJW5FKJM6/G7NIZFpKNI=; b=jOK8lvWCrWzsQoQDvw6UYC80qf t+dDwF0OQpTORSiIwznLEfz/Py3isMw5P10KZE9+Fm1BKNu8S6KpMDy3v50pr+jLZMjLixBxny/Kz X09rMQaAMxI5+EjQWvLFGGG1z; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:46782 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eOQtm-001DDs-A1; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:25:46 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: DetNet WG Cc: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)" , DetNet Chairs References: <988b4e9f-a95f-47a7-be57-6dfcd6dcafbc@labn.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:25:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <988b4e9f-a95f-47a7-be57-6dfcd6dcafbc@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eOQtm-001DDs-A1 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:46782 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Polling interest in DetNet Interim X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:25:54 -0000 All,     We've decided that, although close, we don't have sufficient participation to hold the proposed in-person interim.  We will instead be scheduling 3 2.5 hour virtual interims in the new year.  We have some details to work out before we announce dates and times, but wanted to let those who may be planning travel that the meeting will regrettably *not* be held. We'd like to thank the 802.1 TSN group, Glenn Parsons (and others) who worked very hard to arrange the logistics for the in-person meeting. Lou (and Co-chairs) On 11/27/2017 6:28 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > WG, > > At IETF100 it was suggested that we consider an interim meeting to have > some more focused discussion on resolving current major topics in the > WG, notably the data plane related open issues reviewed at IETF100.  > Some of our WG participants who also participate in IEEE 802.1 TSN have > graciously offered to arrange for meeting space as part of their interim > meeting and joint workshop with ITU-T Study Group 15.  > > The purpose of this message is to gauge interest in participating in > this meeting, and confirming that we have critical mass to formally > schedule this interim. > > The proposed schedule is as follows: > > - Jan 26 Friday afternoon -  IETF DetNet WG - IEEE 802.1 TSN TG joint > session >     ** REQUIRED if don't already have ITU Badge > - Jan 27 Saturday - (optional) Joint IEEE 802 and ITU-T Study Group 15 >     workshop on Building Tomorrow’s Networks >     //The afternoon is likely to be of interest to WG participants >     //while the morning should allow informal discussion time > - Jan 28/29 Sunday/Monday -- IETF DetNet Interim > > It is important to note that the meeting location requires an ITU badge > for access and that badging will be limited to Friday and Monday -- YOU > MUST ATTEND FRIDAY if you wish to participate in meetings on Saturday > and Sunday.  There is no fee for attendance, but no snacks/cookies/food > provided. > > If you are interested in attending, please send mail to the chairs or > (preferably) fill out the doodle poll available at: > https://doodle.com/poll/g23hnb7i3c54p97g > Please let us know if you will definitely attend (if held) or would like > to attend, but cannot yet commit. > > We'd like to confirm details in time for all to make travel > arrangements. If at all possible please respond by COB December 4, if > not earlier. > > Thank you, > Pat and Lou > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet From nobody Thu Dec 14 22:09:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39F412704B for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:09:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1uuZp3cpGcM7 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from 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Thanks, Lou From nobody Fri Dec 22 10:33:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2BE126CE8 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:33:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yuyfSLkXCTip for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73956124BFA for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from CMOut01 (unknown [10.0.90.82]) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2667C1404BA for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:33:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id p6ZS1w00E2SSUrH016ZVmd; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:33:30 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=VcCHBBh9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=ocR9PWop10UA:10 a=S5fQp17YIW2vPsFjxHgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FQLMzNWylnd+3hX2kHjER5v1sLemzGLV0XZdjh4EYN4=; b=yo4gOr7r/lzQkg0Nmrjfho/JvE MZTHmYxx+rwHwzGFjbGGTQI9ERzlUE7pMvgZ0pfBLGWvo3SN5lSNv2Ccaoc5PbBD0hEapFhKYwJHA vkqTY2wvdtVNoYTca4UX4ITP2; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:57194 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eSS8M-003xT0-7S; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:33:26 -0700 To: DetNet WG Cc: DetNet Chairs References: <1f732819-f5bd-9246-9153-5c068c7a65a8@labn.net> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <1c30b767-8023-7f96-68e3-e923aa376afa@labn.net> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 13:33:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1f732819-f5bd-9246-9153-5c068c7a65a8@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1eSS8M-003xT0-7S X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:57194 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] WG adoption poll draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling-01 (extended) X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:33:33 -0000 please ignore - sent to wrong list! On 12/22/2017 1:32 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > All, > > This is start of a *three* week poll on making > draft-bryskin-teas-te-topo-and-tunnel-modeling-01 a working group > document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or > "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations > with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments > you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends January 12, due to the holidays. > > Thanks, > > Lou > > From nobody Fri Dec 22 14:27:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E341126BF0 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:27:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=broadcom.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pF4GVO0xUk1d for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qt0-x230.google.com (mail-qt0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3297B124207 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qt0-x230.google.com with SMTP id u42so37886999qte.7 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:27:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=aXXFYtCiUQXXz9u+yFRjUIVRXyDCaR0lKEQFV+KHKfo=; b=WUKg3GB4crCQ89aBorRoVWTemeOQey4GI99TkLddWKj6YTLVqbdorqqOyRviGa45Jw Sr9nhAmH/+8YD++5IeFmIf6Q2lMtH5rDFmt/3ySGHae7cONwOqp7ff1/UttfIngBEZXu M6CTEu5LjNdWUtZKNmXxmjEhrTobqPMAUL644= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=aXXFYtCiUQXXz9u+yFRjUIVRXyDCaR0lKEQFV+KHKfo=; b=GaJb3cVhF49NOIuN8PJNXV/lC7DeP/N8Mg2kKCXYpcvkBFBpuuPyHZhgLkyjuuggHE 5d8ccoUq5lcc/rv2QtUnilJt6CE1hKEq63WFHzuiQa7MZ7VCWLbkJ9ritCFsAQzxcxwj O/cceLkqnTaS7w8Zzcr/nMC18EaqqbDI3eDToMypz5rtbJox6CxISdrL6bpFCVtinoiy 72lqgbQwTKUKrgyzGDRBXZpAVGNZhijzDZxaCJ09OUhaot/+uidKYUaPxjC7t+8tHtgW dGwYO/qGhMzyGFZ21IjEpZFEuaovCDHlnUCb9Kbm5YnMhuStrv1fROZOIIrH76Oq+aqm 2YLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKiXLtHc67cuQLlwrSTr3s0IxNiNtZmXut3ZX1hZ0ujZ+0FmKW2 BEq9Bf5T+NA2Hy1O+TQjnDgCOgOdaHniadmxIg1RzkfG X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosk2I7OOsLxQFRnPSI0QQQnO/tAQxLzEnCXWYr6P8XfRF1zrZ7krUjBOAtpnbOiiM4V3WKq+lJS+bMHWrlcSlE= X-Received: by 10.200.13.1 with SMTP id q1mr20516843qti.166.1513981644726; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:27:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.104.229 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:27:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Pat Thaler Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:27:24 -0800 Message-ID: To: detnet@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e082296302190850560f552e6" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] WG adoption poll draft-farkas-detnet-flow-information-model X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 22:27:28 -0000 --089e082296302190850560f552e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" All, This poll is complete. The document is adopted. Authors, Please republish the draft-farkas-detnet-flow-information-mode-02 as draft-ietf-detnet-flow-information-model-00 with the filename and date being the only changes. Thank you! Pat, Lou and Janos On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Pat Thaler wrote: > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-farkas-detnet-flow-information-model a working group document. > Please > send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends 11 Decmber 2017. > > Thanks, > Pat and Lou > --089e082296302190850560f552e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 This poll is complete.=C2=A0 The document is adopt= ed.=C2=A0
Authors,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Please republish= the=C2=A0draft-farkas-detnet-flow-= inf= ormation-mode-02=C2=A0as
draft-ietf-detn= et-flow-information-model-00=C2=A0w= ith the filename and date being the only
changes.

Than= k you!

= Pat, Lou and Janos

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at = 3:37 PM, Pat Thaler <pat.thaler@broadcom.com> wrote:
All,

This is start of a two week p= oll on making
draft-farkas-detnet-flow-information-model=C2=A0a=C2=A0working= =C2=A0group=C2=A0document. Pleas= e
sen= d email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
suppor= t".=C2=A0 If indicating no, please state your reservations with the
documen= t.=C2=A0 If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd=
like to see= addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends 11 Decmber 2017.

Thanks,
Pat and Lou

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