From nobody Mon Apr 2 20:24:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietf.org Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D877F1243F3; Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:24:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: detnet@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.77.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152272588884.14008.10082889526115153822@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 20:24:48 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-15.txt X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 03:24:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Deterministic Networking WG of the IETF. Title : Deterministic Networking Use Cases Author : Ethan Grossman Filename : draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-15.txt Pages : 90 Date : 2018-04-02 Abstract: This draft documents requirements in several diverse industries to establish multi-hop paths for characterized flows with deterministic properties. In this context deterministic implies that streams can be established which provide guaranteed bandwidth and latency which can be established from either a Layer 2 or Layer 3 (IP) interface, and which can co-exist on an IP network with best-effort traffic. Additional requirements include optional redundant paths, very high reliability paths, time synchronization, and clock distribution. Industries considered include professional audio, electrical utilities, building automation systems, wireless for industrial, cellular radio, industrial machine-to-machine, mining, private blockchain, and network slicing. For each case, this document will identify the application, identify representative solutions used today, and the improvements IETF DetNet solutions may enable. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-15 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-15 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-15 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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solution draft split X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:00:55 -0000 --_000_DB4PR07MB065393471E3AA23BE57C85DBACBF0DB4PR07MB0653eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, We plan the following timeline for updating the DP solution draft: - 11, Apr: Jouni/Balazs email to DetNet list. First proposal to create the = slit documents and making available in GitHUB. - 12-24 Apr: MAIL-based review on the list. Collecting feedback on document= split proposal. Comments and inputs are invited from everyone. - 25, Apr (CET 17:00): working-meeting with discussion & conclusion of slit= proposal. Everyone invited to contribute. - 27, Apr: Finalizing split results (authors) for interim. - 16, May: Virtual Interim meeting. Cheers Bala'zs & Jouni --_000_DB4PR07MB065393471E3AA23BE57C85DBACBF0DB4PR07MB0653eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

We plan the following timeline for updating the D= P solution draft:

- 11, Apr: Jouni/Balazs email to DetNet list. Fir= st proposal to create the slit documents and making available in GitHUB.

- 12-24 Apr: MAIL-based review on the list. Colle= cting feedback on document split proposal. Comments and inputs are invited = from everyone.

- 25, Apr (CET 17:00): working-meeting with discu= ssion & conclusion of slit proposal. Everyone invited to contribute.

- 27, Apr: Finalizing split results (authors) for= interim.

- 16, May: Virtual Interim meeting.

 

Cheers

 

Bala’zs & Jouni

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List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 03:29:08 -0000 Hi,     It's time to finalize the minutes for IETF 101.  Ethan has done a really good job of capturing the discussion, but there are still a few names missing.  Please review the latest draft minutes at the usual spot, https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-101-detnet and make changes you think appropriate to accurately reflect what was said during the session - particularly if you made a comment at the mic. Note that there a few names that were missed and are marked with question marks. Again, our thanks to Ethan and the other note takers! Thanks, Lou (and Janos) From nobody Fri Apr 13 05:54:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A05E120721 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:54:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Tvnk3XMS2UV for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D8441200C1 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw4 (unknown [10.0.90.85]) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41BE1AB58D for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:54:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw4 with id Zoty1x00Z2SSUrH01ou1zd; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:54:02 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=G85sK5s5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=Kd1tUaAdevIA:10 a=a_U1oVfrAAAA:8 a=dvYTUCrYAAAA:8 a=eNhrYkunAAAA:8 a=i0EeH86SAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=1RTuLK3dAAAA:8 a=evzKI-gwnGflBZNWDgkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=ObNdaEYmglEA:10 a=6Bg0UZXucloA:10 a=ILgoY2Ve9XsnFM_ECIJt:22 a=PpuJiCCUrSZBVgR5pI4g:22 a=_52E5wBpa6mDisqMSfOe:22 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=kRpfLKi8w9umh8uBmg1i:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hbHkT01OBBf7WCKDZ4q05pkDljphNMeGQiDFs+qwNUM=; b=ssn/vxpx+wVYZkbJO/POVcLUz3 ia1DA2MdGbiX4mrbBWGj6wUdPSHxf89fAkO7r8qLX+7U8N0WX06UiN3EHfjFXOq5Bq7UPtXrBlhgu UL7yyFlZJOi2FXp6l23TgqZW3; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:36000 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f6yDG-003Enc-OA; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:53:58 -0600 To: draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases@ietf.org References: <152362385662.26317.8185113316746187634.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Cc: "detnet@ietf.org" From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:53:57 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <152362385662.26317.8185113316746187634.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1f6yDG-003Enc-OA X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:36000 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 4 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] missing draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases IPR responses X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:54:05 -0000 Authors,     LC on your document is still gated by IPR responses from the contributors listed below, can you please help get their responses? Thank you, Lou (and Janos) On 4/13/2018 8:50 AM, IETF Secretariat wrote: > Please DO NOT reply to this email. > > Lou Berger added the following comment to the history of draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases > > Pre LC IPR call: > > Still waiting on: > franz-josef.goetz at siemens.com: > petra.vizarreta at lkn.ei.tum.de: > raymond.jean at hydro.qc.ca: > spis at intracom-telecom.com: > zhayiyong at huawei.com: > > Responses: > gengxuesong at huawei.com: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/detnet/f7ERaiog8M8jBkzO4QvEwkCfte0 > huang.guangping at zte.com.cn: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/detnet/current/msg01384.html > > > The document can be found at > I-D: > Datatracker URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases/ > > > From nobody Fri Apr 13 06:25:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B03120727 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w7RTNp8oxMpt for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA6B41200F1 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw3 (unknown [10.0.90.84]) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33ABF1E063D for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id ZpRk1x00m2SSUrH01pRn05; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:25:48 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=cY2iljLM c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=Kd1tUaAdevIA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=-tsAPJKn6S7ax0J5AdsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:To:Subject:From:Cc:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cbNSYtyMwuNkfk4n4CzrT3m01FmJY2gk/Kv6yZnsJ+c=; b=sAMnrqnPG2ismpMfHvc8mhuNvI Q/WhgvPKBoHbgDIMe9w/W3taWxpaqDE5Jssm0XQKhPEWeZ+65l24o2jRp+6Er1XDHBJM8ntYaTo6/ bBpLx6V5RBEgcboFTd2luCG7b; Received: from pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.86.101]:36922 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f6yi0-003MjX-DB; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:25:44 -0600 Cc: DetNet Chairs , DetNet WG From: Lou Berger To: norman.finn@mail01.huawei.com, pthubert@cisco.com, balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com, janos.farkas@ericsson.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:25:43 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1f6yi0-003MjX-DB X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:36922 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 11 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-architecture-04 X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:25:55 -0000 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG LC: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, DetNet WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. 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No, I'm not aware of = any IPR that applies to this draft

2018-04-13 10:25 GMT-03:00 Lou Berger <lb= erger@labn.net>:
Authors,= Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for WG LC:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quo= t;
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S<= br> TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
DetNet WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.

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--0000000000000f7f120569bafb1c-- From nobody Fri Apr 13 07:08:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906CB120724; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:08:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=hydro.qc.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kLoePIGavdJM; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boris.zerospam.ca (boris.zerospam.ca [216.46.11.244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EF96120721; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-ZEROSPAM_FILTERED: true Received: from boris.zerospam.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by boris.zerospam.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40N03f1BsCz9rw9; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:07:58 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: boris.zerospam.ca (ip=199.22.60.220); auth=none; spf=none smtp.helo=smtp20.hydro.qc.ca; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=Raymond.Jean@hydro.qc.ca; dkim=pass header.d=hydro.qc.ca header.i=@hydro.qc.ca header.b=gxMBaRC+ header.s=dkim X-ZEROSPAM-Spammy-Score: -3.760 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1:12000) (original ip: 199.22.60.220) by boris.zerospam.ca (Themis) with ESMTP id TxbBp7UZTBuu5ra6kpa; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:07:57 -0400 Received: from smtp20.hydro.qc.ca (smtp20.hydro.qc.ca [199.22.60.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boris.zerospam.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40N03d3gjzz9rw1; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp20.hydro.qc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770DA4007; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:07:57 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=hydro.qc.ca; h= mime-version:content-type:content-type:content-language :accept-language:message-id:date:date:subject:subject:from:from :received; s=dkim; t=1523628477; bh=AnYVuGDAw6vYKGfDErHnFPi57iHx 9FaWwi0O6DSM2CA=; b=gxMBaRC+W251LSMGW4bI5nXJrglBFVwFpF446d0DGVW6 Yy+nuOv3vm1akxN2A6cxnnKgMPtJAadB1bhFtBYMhiGzpaEBwsWtIoo5ssfuS5Np hIxlBL5IiT/ykxk50kOl/OgROP9RrAki691pdMVMOIi0ThxANOsjx7VtlwURPFY= Received: from smtp20.hydro.qc.ca ([10.16.56.108]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yh6BhC0kEXBc; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:07:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Raymond, Jean" To: "detnet@ietf.org" , "detnet-chairs@ietf.org" , "lberger@labn.net" Thread-Topic: not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Thread-Index: AdPTMNKE1U2DyCXwQN6CA2Z551e7yg== Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:07:57 +0000 Message-ID: <446C43C06790B34EB72DB69284A6CA542B0DF73C@WPEXCH2010MR12.bur.hydro.qc.ca> Accept-Language: fr-CA, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_446C43C06790B34EB72DB69284A6CA542B0DF73CWPEXCH2010MR12b_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:08:03 -0000 --_000_446C43C06790B34EB72DB69284A6CA542B0DF73CWPEXCH2010MR12b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft (draft-ietf-detnet-= use-cases-15.txt). For an unknown reason, it seems you didn't receive my previous email. Very sorry for the delay and have a nice day, Jean Raymond, ing., Ph.D., M.Sc.A. Integration - Projet =C9volution Automatismes Direction Convergence des Automatismes, Trans=C9nergie, Hydro-Qu=E9bec 2 Complexe Desjardins, 11i=E8me, tour Est C.P. 10000, succ Desjardins Montr=E9al, Qu=E9bec, Canada, H5B 1H7 Tel : 1 514 798 1223 poste 8407458 --_000_446C43C06790B34EB72DB69284A6CA542B0DF73CWPEXCH2010MR12b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear All,

 

No, I'm not aware of any IPR th= at applies to this draft (draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-15.txt).

 

For an unknown reason, it seems= you didn’t receive my previous email.

 

Very sorry for the delay and ha= ve a nice day,

 

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From nobody Fri Apr 13 09:03:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED741271DF for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:03:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.331 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.331 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dTsF5haq3Y46 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg23.ericsson.net (sesbmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D17B3126CC4 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:03:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=ericsson.com; s=mailgw201801; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@ericsson.com; t=1523635396; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:CC:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=k2QXYm/0S5T4utBqSI9+ilQLHwR6aFlKiaeySeHhZ6Y=; b=Wl/gJYufouy8U/7q/dqMN0WUGjI31f05io0FTgHTi68/ExaH+nAfilB+uYi0dZew d/qnLIUSs9CEb2gt6uw6PXQkkacx1tReboDt+iFSYTC10nasQ2XQpIh0vWSB8SHE aTz1RXClOgnN50txwBNVq4hO96NJUk/cbeO4Bt3TILw=; X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-5a75a9c00000522b-31-5ad0d4c373b6 Received: from ESESSHC015.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.63]) by sesbmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 0C.47.21035.3C4D0DA5; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 18:03:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [159.107.143.204] (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 18:03:15 +0200 To: Lou Berger References: CC: , , , DetNet Chairs , "DetNet WG" From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=a1nos_Farkas?= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 18:03:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7ve6RKxeiDB6JWlzr/8Fi8fvTbBaL jua3LBbLjp5mspgx5R2jA6vHlN8bWT2WLPnJ5PFhUzObx47ND1gDWKK4bFJSczLLUov07RK4 Mm7uO8xWsIyv4sXBzywNjDO5uxg5OSQETCTmtf5n62Lk4hASOMIocaD3FjuEs5ZR4sbWz0wg VcIC9hJ72zrZQGwRAUWJrx8XgcWFBKwlum+3gcWZBRYzSqzoKwKx2YDq717awAxi8wLZJ2/f ZQGxWQRUJVrPHgeyOThEBWIk1vclQJQISpyc+QSshFPARuLMzD1MECMtJGbOP88IYctLbH87 hxlirZrEp7cP2ScwCsxC0j4LScssJC0LGJlXMYoWpxYn5aYbGeulFmUmFxfn5+nlpZZsYgSG 8cEtv1V3MF5+43iIUYCDUYmHl+XohSgh1sSy4srcQ4wSHMxKIrwn9wGFeFMSK6tSi/Lji0pz UosPMUpzsCiJ8z403xwlJJCeWJKanZpakFoEk2Xi4JRqYFRnWrWxmX9u0q1VqzIvcFe5Wro8 fFwbftz5XohyraOAk6TTvu5m5TPu34LO5y9KPrDPLX/v1OR5645WXPGwNlZ/uXj1Ra3yBd57 NrXNNtxlNr0xefvJanX9qwriDBMvbFhqpf/knVjD58C17U8uTOPMCt4mMdE+eL7YWUY2oXS7 9ZvVNzDPCFFiKc5INNRiLipOBAAtX6U2XwIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-architecture-04 X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:03:20 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Regards, Janos On 4/13/2018 3:25 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for WG LC: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, The initial version of the DP split documents are available here: https://github.com/detnet-wg Mail based review is started. Please, provide your comments via the mailing= -list first. If You intend to edit the documents you can clone the master and do pull re= quests after sending your comments to the list. Inputs are appreciated before 24th April 11:00am (GMT). Thanks & Cheers Bala'zs & Jouni --_000_DB4PR07MB065371BC2D2B6F348D24864AACB00DB4PR07MB0653eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

The initial version of the DP split documents are av= ailable here:

https://git= hub.com/detnet-wg

 

Mail based review is started. Please, provide your c= omments via the mailing-list first.

If You intend to edit the documents you can clone th= e master and do pull requests

after sending your comments to the list.<= /p>

 

Inputs are appreciated before 24th April = 11:00am (GMT).

 

Thanks & Cheers

Bala’zs & Jouni

 

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] [EXTERNAL] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-architecture-04 X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:54:45 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft -----Original Message----- From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 7:26 AM To: norman.finn@mail01.huawei.com; pthubert@cisco.com; balazs.a.varga@erics= son.com; janos.farkas@ericsson.com Cc: DetNet WG ; DetNet Chairs Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Detnet] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-architectur= e-04 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG LC: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the abo= ve by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until = a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE:= THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] [EXTERNAL] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-problem-statement-03 X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:56:37 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft -----Original Message----- From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of J=E1nos Farkas Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:44 AM To: norman.finn@mail01.huawei.com; pthubert@cisco.com Cc: detnet@ietf.org; detnet-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Detnet] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-problem-sta= tement-03 Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG LC: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the abo= ve by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until = a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE:= THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. 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The sooner the better ... Note: DetNet working meeting 24th April at 17:00 CEST Thanks Bala'zs From: Bal=E1zs Varga A Sent: 2018. =E1prilis 16. 7:50 To: detnet@ietf.org Subject: Initial DP split documents available Hi, The initial version of the DP split documents are available here: https://github.com/detnet-wg Mail based review is started. Please, provide your comments via the mailing= -list first. If You intend to edit the documents you can clone the master and do pull re= quests after sending your comments to the list. Inputs are appreciated before 24th April 11:00am (GMT). Thanks & Cheers Bala'zs & Jouni --_000_DB4PR07MB0653F67DB2ACBFF68F2B2BA9AC8A0DB4PR07MB0653eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Just a friendly reminder, please send your comments = (if any).

The sooner the better …

Note: DetNet working meeting 24th April at 17:00 CES= T

Thanks

Bala’zs

 

From: Bal=E1zs Varga A
Sent: 2018. =E1prilis 16. 7:50
To: detnet@ietf.org
Subject: Initial DP split documents available

 

Hi,

 

The initial version of the DP split documents are av= ailable here:

https://git= hub.com/detnet-wg

 

Mail based review is started. Please, provide your c= omments via the mailing-list first.

If You intend to edit the documents you can clone th= e master and do pull requests

after sending your comments to the list.<= /p>

 

Inputs are appreciated before 24th April = 11:00am (GMT).

 

Thanks & Cheers

Bala’zs & Jouni

 

 

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Malis" Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:36:55 -0400 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Bal=C3=A1zs_Varga_A?= Cc: "detnet@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d33e08056a8422ab" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Initial DP split documents available X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:37:19 -0000 --000000000000d33e08056a8422ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bal=C3=A1zs, Sorry, I was busy elsewhere last week and didn=E2=80=99t have a chance to c= heck out the new drafts. Thanks for taking a first cut at the separation. My initial reactions: 1. There is a lot of duplication between the drafts, which can allow drift between them where it shouldn=E2=80=99t occur, and it will require a lot of= work to keep them in sync. I suggest either a three-way split, with common stuff in one draft and just encapsulation details in the other two, or what may be easier, designating one of them as the =E2=80=9Cprimary=E2=80=9D draft (mos= t probably the MPLS draft) that includes all of the common text, and utilizing a lot of section references to the primary draft in the secondary draft, removing any duplication between the two. 2. The text from draft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been incorporated into draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00. This can happen in the next revision. 3. Since I believe the WG consensus is to use a common encapsulation for IPv4 and IPv6, we can remove sections from draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00 that deal with only one or the other, such as 8.6, 8.7, 10,1,1, Appendix B, etc., plus any reference to the IPv6 flow label. Thanks, Andy On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 2:33 AM, Bal=C3=A1zs Varga A wrote: > Hi, > > Just a friendly reminder, please send your comments (if any). > > The sooner the better =E2=80=A6 > > Note: DetNet working meeting 24th April at 17:00 CEST > > Thanks > > Bala=E2=80=99zs > > > > *From:* Bal=C3=A1zs Varga A > *Sent:* 2018. =C3=A1prilis 16. 7:50 > *To:* detnet@ietf.org > *Subject:* Initial DP split documents available > > > > Hi, > > > > The initial version of the DP split documents are available here: > > https://github.com/detnet-wg > > > > Mail based review is started. Please, provide your comments via the > mailing-list first. > > If You intend to edit the documents you can clone the master and do pull > requests > > after sending your comments to the list. > > > > Inputs are appreciated before 24th April 11:00am (GMT). > > > > Thanks & Cheers > > Bala=E2=80=99zs & Jouni > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > --000000000000d33e08056a8422ab Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bal=C3=A1zs,

Sorry, I was busy else= where last week and didn=E2=80=99t have a chance to check out the new draft= s. Thanks for taking a first cut at the separation.

My initial reactions:

1. There is a lot of dupli= cation between the drafts, which can allow drift between them where it shou= ldn=E2=80=99t occur, and it will require a lot of work to keep them in sync= . I suggest either a three-way split, with common stuff in one draft and ju= st encapsulation details in the other two, or what may be easier, designati= ng one of them as the =E2=80=9Cprimary=E2=80=9D draft (most probably the MP= LS draft) that includes all of the common text, and utilizing a lot of sect= ion references to the primary draft in the secondary draft, removing any du= plication between the two.

2. The text from=C2=A0d= raft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been incorporated into=C2=A0draft-ie= tf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00. This can happen in the next revision.
3. Since I believe the WG consensus is to use a common encapsul= ation for IPv4 and IPv6, we can remove sections from draft-ietf-detnet-dp-s= ol-ip-00 that deal with only one or the other, such as 8.6, 8.7, 10,1,1, Ap= pendix B, etc., plus any reference to the IPv6 flow label.

Thanks,
Andy


On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 2:33 AM, B= al=C3=A1zs Varga A <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com> w= rote:

Hi,

Just a friendly reminder, please send your comments = (if any).

The sooner the better =E2=80=A6

Note: DetNet working meeting 24th April at 17:00 CES= T

Thanks

Bala=E2=80=99zs

=C2=A0

From: Bal=C3=A1zs Varga A
Sent: 2018. =C3=A1prilis 16. 7:50
To: detnet@ietf= .org
Subject: Initial DP split documents available

=C2=A0

Hi,

=C2=A0

The initial version of the DP split documents are av= ailable here:

https://github.com/detnet-wg

=C2=A0

Mail based review is started. Please, provide your c= omments via the mailing-list first.

If You intend to edit the documents you can clone th= e master and do pull requests

after sending your comments to the list.

=C2=A0

Inputs are appreciated before 24th April = 11:00am (GMT).

=C2=A0

Thanks & Cheers

Bala=E2=80=99zs & Jouni

=C2=A0

=C2=A0


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Malis" , =?UTF-8?Q?Bal=c3=a1zs_Varga_A?= Cc: "detnet@ietf.org" References: From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <0358461b-b79b-8e5e-f73d-b6325fe77a0a@labn.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 10:11:46 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1fAcC3-002Wqq-P8 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:56590 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 20 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Initial DP split documents available X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:11:53 -0000 Andy, One comment below. On 4/23/2018 9:36 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > 2. The text from draft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been > incorporated into draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00. This can happen in > the next revision. This draft really is about carrying MPLS over an IP PSN and not native IP flows sourced from any IP node, including hosts, right? As such I think this falls in the category of an interworking function and we should decide if it belongs in (a) the MPLS solution doc and references the IP solution doc, (b) in the IP solution doc and references the MPLS solution doc or (c) in it's own document which references both solutions docs.  My inclination is either (a) as IP only devices won't care about MPLS,  or (c) as then we have an RFC that makes it clear that a conformant implementation supports the IWF. What do you/others think? Lou From nobody Mon Apr 23 07:44:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DEB129C6E for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 07:44:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SbYJvDaOivhi for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x232.google.com (mail-oi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FE96127909 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x232.google.com with SMTP id y20-v6so14500651oix.5 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=T/ZJcxKcI8KGUJWGRFFTm9g+5Xaqz+yLiPndv5fJJw4=; b=dBqVNh5c0OXhPy9pPcjR5XFxkttO7KdPwcoXH6V7fdbA7ivf0DzroDDUKzN0kDaMHR 1VN2/o352lG4D2zpnXunjkHDPF1LdsH6xaY8s1MUMjtKIJ0kxIiMMj2ikQtVNShnUw22 xz4xAhpu5u2OqAGfX5udrmW4Q9GXDtkld3I4/6+p3lD997G6mP8uDVD6lxud4KiNRzOl 0Cdc+dHPJlW4DMMROt0oD7X+47/0Cc82tJ5Bh31+Z/wt/D/4wxlQT5K2JqqjysiNmunA ny6yw1XRdcPhEfUJCVG48BGHmwF5m0VKvoL1Dc2rWdUgXbjQZDDU8NVQZM0w46GH8ff+ WkVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=T/ZJcxKcI8KGUJWGRFFTm9g+5Xaqz+yLiPndv5fJJw4=; b=QWeUqy48XxAD+cgvZXb+xEFhvOYOO2ko878sDMK/9hTzjhEBdQDBxRhnGdELv5ckuz qqKZPl5RlW5/RsEK2KaYN9G54KbyqFSiHEBnyDzfv0OTaRl6ub6NF7gpFqZYmH2CoDoq 4SFn/L1ulukbOdTxuzHW18bI6A+4qMfDJL8wvszWevjF6Wa6AvSiWRwZbLZH6bydbGEv vqrCojO87F6Elu6XtPt05pJdogPerd1L3cVNX1fF3UeFNkyCSkDVe12aJeQgktHYnWF1 7GT49JDUGflrqD290tJ4UaFqEhUJclOkd8o9VgMaF1qQemBmna5PAs8c0aZr4UW197N8 w6vA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tC53SGeXOJemDopgnes92h9rLXHvt1mCt1mlA+Cshp6h0shdFaE 8xB+RpQKJL00802XGJmtRTob1EMDKvAv1ByHx/o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx48qqLdKdVXiWWztR/tFq4U/5972a6eXB9ZfmlXetg91Hi7QI95wABG5hQ7cd9FLssFq8/ISwNtw0WhcRqV7Nwc= X-Received: by 2002:aca:f447:: with SMTP id s68-v6mr13706122oih.204.1524494642479; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 07:44:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9d:1f3a:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 07:43:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0358461b-b79b-8e5e-f73d-b6325fe77a0a@labn.net> References: <0358461b-b79b-8e5e-f73d-b6325fe77a0a@labn.net> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 10:43:41 -0400 Message-ID: To: Lou Berger Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bal=C3=A1zs_Varga_A?= , "detnet@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a087c7056a85112d" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Initial DP split documents available X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:44:05 -0000 --000000000000a087c7056a85112d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lou, I prefer option (b). The reason is that the IP flows sourced from an IP node are already covered in section 6 of draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00, while section 7 of that draft is the proper place for the draft-malis text, and already contains a placeholder for it. It will indeed reference the MPLS draft for the definition of the S-Label, Control Word, etc. Cheers, Andy On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Andy, > > One comment below. > > On 4/23/2018 9:36 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > >> >> 2. The text from draft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been >> incorporated into draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00. This can happen in the >> next revision. >> > > This draft really is about carrying MPLS over an IP PSN and not native IP > flows sourced from any IP node, including hosts, right? As such I think > this falls in the category of an interworking function and we should decide > if it belongs in (a) the MPLS solution doc and references the IP solution > doc, (b) in the IP solution doc and references the MPLS solution doc or (c) > in it's own document which references both solutions docs. My inclination > is either (a) as IP only devices won't care about MPLS, or (c) as then we > have an RFC that makes it clear that a conformant implementation supports > the IWF. > > What do you/others think? > > Lou > > --000000000000a087c7056a85112d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lou,

I prefer option (b). The reason is= that the IP flows sourced from an IP node are already covered in section 6= of=C2=A0= draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00, while section 7 of that draft is the proper plac= e for the draft-malis text, and already contains a placeholder for it. It w= ill indeed reference the MPLS draft for the definition of the S-Label, Cont= rol Word, etc.

Cheers,
Andy

On = Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> = wrote:
Andy,

One comment below.

On 4/23/2018 9:36 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:

2. The text from=C2=A0draft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been inc= orporated into=C2=A0draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00. This can happen in= the next revision.

 This draft really is about carrying MPLS over an IP PSN and not native IP f= lows sourced from any IP node, including hosts, right? As such I think this= falls in the category of an interworking function and we should decide if = it belongs in (a) the MPLS solution doc and references the IP solution doc,= (b) in the IP solution doc and references the MPLS solution doc or (c) in = it's own document which references both solutions docs.=C2=A0 My inclin= ation is either (a) as IP only devices won't care about MPLS,=C2=A0 or = (c) as then we have an RFC that makes it clear that a conformant implementa= tion supports the IWF.

What do you/others think?
Lou


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Malis" Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bal=c3=a1zs_Varga_A?= , "detnet@ietf.org" References: <0358461b-b79b-8e5e-f73d-b6325fe77a0a@labn.net> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <558da407-e814-b411-b816-043007caa19a@labn.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 11:29:39 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B732618FFA2F2702A6F74366" Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1fAdPP-002vMB-OP X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:46050 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Initial DP split documents available X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:29:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B732618FFA2F2702A6F74366 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 4/23/2018 10:43 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > Lou, > > I prefer option (b). The reason is that the IP flows sourced from an > IP node are already covered in section 6 of > draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00, Humm, I just looked at this draft a bit more. (as chair), based on the latest direction discussed in the WG - I think section 6 should be come the meat of this document and *all* references to MPLS in the earlier sections need to be removed. > while section 7 of that draft is the proper place for the draft-malis > text, and already contains a placeholder for it. It will indeed > reference the MPLS draft for the definition of the S-Label, Control > Word, etc. (as ??? - perhaps all hats) I really don't think MPLS has a place in this document.  Just like RFC 791 doesn't define MPLS or XYZ over IP... Lou > > Cheers, > Andy > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Lou Berger > wrote: > > Andy, > > One comment below. > > On 4/23/2018 9:36 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > > 2. The text from draft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been > incorporated into draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00. This can > happen in the next revision. > > > This draft really is about carrying MPLS over an IP PSN and not > native IP flows sourced from any IP node, including hosts, right? > As such I think this falls in the category of an interworking > function and we should decide if it belongs in (a) the MPLS > solution doc and references the IP solution doc, (b) in the IP > solution doc and references the MPLS solution doc or (c) in it's > own document which references both solutions docs.  My inclination > is either (a) as IP only devices won't care about MPLS,  or (c) as > then we have an RFC that makes it clear that a conformant > implementation supports the IWF. > > What do you/others think? > > Lou > > --------------B732618FFA2F2702A6F74366 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



On 4/23/2018 10:43 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
Lou,

I prefer option (b). The reason is that the IP flows sourced from an IP node are already covered in section 6 of draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00,
Humm, I just looked at this draft a bit more. 

(as chair), based on the latest direction discussed in the WG - I think section 6 should be come the meat of this document and *all* references to MPLS in the earlier sections need to be removed.

while section 7 of that draft is the proper place for the draft-malis text, and already contains a placeholder for it. It will indeed reference the MPLS draft for the definition of the S-Label, Control Word, etc.

(as ??? - perhaps all hats) I really don't think MPLS has a place in this document.  Just like RFC 791 doesn't define MPLS or XYZ over IP...

Lou


Cheers,
Andy


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
Andy,

One comment below.

On 4/23/2018 9:36 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:

2. The text from draft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been incorporated into draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00. This can happen in the next revision.

 This draft really is about carrying MPLS over an IP PSN and not native IP flows sourced from any IP node, including hosts, right? As such I think this falls in the category of an interworking function and we should decide if it belongs in (a) the MPLS solution doc and references the IP solution doc, (b) in the IP solution doc and references the MPLS solution doc or (c) in it's own document which references both solutions docs.  My inclination is either (a) as IP only devices won't care about MPLS,  or (c) as then we have an RFC that makes it clear that a conformant implementation supports the IWF.

What do you/others think?

Lou



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Malis" Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 11:54:03 -0400 Message-ID: To: Lou Berger Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bal=C3=A1zs_Varga_A?= , "detnet@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003f7b1b056a860d00" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Initial DP split documents available X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:54:27 -0000 --0000000000003f7b1b056a860d00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lou, On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > > On 4/23/2018 10:43 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > Lou, > > I prefer option (b). The reason is that the IP flows sourced from an IP > node are already covered in section 6 of draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00, > > Humm, I just looked at this draft a bit more. > > (as chair), based on the latest direction discussed in the WG - I think > section 6 should be come the meat of this document and *all* references to > MPLS in the earlier sections need to be removed. > We can discuss how do to do this on the call tomorrow. I suggested two possible alternatives. > while section 7 of that draft is the proper place for the draft-malis > text, and already contains a placeholder for it. It will indeed reference > the MPLS draft for the definition of the S-Label, Control Word, etc. > > > (as ??? - perhaps all hats) I really don't think MPLS has a place in this > document. Just like RFC 791 doesn't define MPLS or XYZ over IP... > Except that the DetNet encapsulation that supports PR and EF for transport over an IPv4 or IPv6 transport network reuses the MPLS encapsulation within UDP, as we agreed in London. So we have to decide if the IP draft is to discuss IP DetNet clients, DetNet over an IP transport network, or both. Currently it is both. Cheers, Andy > > > Lou > > > Cheers, > Andy > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > >> Andy, >> >> One comment below. >> >> On 4/23/2018 9:36 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: >> >>> >>> 2. The text from draft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been >>> incorporated into draft-ietf-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00. This can happen in >>> the next revision. >>> >> >> This draft really is about carrying MPLS over an IP PSN and not native IP >> flows sourced from any IP node, including hosts, right? As such I think >> this falls in the category of an interworking function and we should decide >> if it belongs in (a) the MPLS solution doc and references the IP solution >> doc, (b) in the IP solution doc and references the MPLS solution doc or (c) >> in it's own document which references both solutions docs. My inclination >> is either (a) as IP only devices won't care about MPLS, or (c) as then we >> have an RFC that makes it clear that a conformant implementation supports >> the IWF. >> >> What do you/others think? >> >> Lou >> >> > > --0000000000003f7b1b056a860d00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lou,



On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Lou Ber= ger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
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On 4/23/2018 10:43 = AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
Lou,

I prefer option (b). The reason is that the IP flows sourced from an IP node are already covered in section 6 of=C2=A0= draft-iet= f-detnet-dp-sol-ip-00,
Humm, I just looked at this draft a bit more.=C2=A0

(as chair), based on the latest direction discussed in the WG - I think section 6 should be come the meat of this document and *all* references to MPLS in the earlier sections need to be removed.

We can discuss how do to do this on the call = tomorrow. I suggested two possible alternatives.=C2=A0
while section 7 of that draft is the proper place for the draft-malis text, and already contains a placeholder for it. It will indeed reference the MPLS draft for the definition of the S-Label, Control Word, etc.

 (as ??? - perhaps all hats) I really don't think MPLS has a place i= n this document.=C2=A0 Just like RFC 791 doesn't define MPLS or XYZ o= ver IP...

Except that the DetNet enca= psulation that supports PR and EF for transport over an IPv4 or IPv6 transp= ort network reuses the MPLS encapsulation within UDP, as we agreed in Londo= n.

So we have to decide if the IP draft is to disc= uss IP DetNet clients, DetNet over an IP transport network, or both. Curren= tly it is both.

Cheers,
Andy
= =C2=A0


Lou


Cheers,
Andy


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
Andy,

One comment below.

On 4/23/2018 9:36 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:

2. The text from=C2=A0draft-malis-detnet-ip-dp-00 has not yet been incorporated into=C2=A0draft-ietf-detnet-dp-so= l-ip-00. This can happen in the next revision.

 This draft really is about carrying MPLS over an IP PSN and not native IP flows sourced from any IP node, including hosts, right? As such I think this falls in the category of an interworking function and we should decide if it belongs in (a) the MPLS solution doc and references the IP solution doc, (b) in the IP solution doc and references the MPLS solution doc or (c) in it's own document which references both solutions docs.=C2=A0 My inclination is either (a) as IP only devices won't care about MPLS,=C2=A0 or (c) as then we= have an RFC that makes it clear that a conformant implementation supports the IWF.

What do you/others think?

Lou




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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m35-v6sm8781741wrm.51.2018.04.23.11.39.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Apr 2018 11:39:48 -0700 (PDT) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Bal=c3=a1zs_Varga_A?= , "detnet@ietf.org" References: From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <8b3c3b8a-8af9-6e57-54b9-b95773f3a359@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:39:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Initial DP split documents available X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:39:55 -0000 Hi, Sorry this is so late. For some reason I though the interim was in May and I did look at my DETNET folder these last few days. - Stewart SB> Following up on the list discussion, I think that SB> we probably need: SB> - DP Arch SB> - MPLS DP SB> - IP DP SB> All as separate documents. SB> I stopped reviewing at Section 6.3 since there is huge SB> uncertainty beyont that point. SB> Given the number of detailed comments, I have made, I wonder the SB> editors and I should set up a shared screen session to deal with SB> as many as possible and present the results of our discussions SB> to the WG. SB> I see the OAM indication material did not get incorporated SB> from draft-bryant-detnet-mpls-dp-00. I think it needs to SB> be here even if we have a separate OAM draft. SB> Similarly I think the flow agregation text from SB> draft-bryant-detnet-mpls-dp-00 should be included. SB> There needs to be some payload type discussion (section 7 of SB> draft-bryant-detnet-mpls-dp-00. )  It does not need to be that SB> text, but it does nedd to be thought through. SB> Section 9 of draft-bryant-detnet-mpls-dp-00 was an attempt SB> at talking about the elements of proceedure, and I think we SB> need something of that type in this text. SB> We need to jointly review draft-bryant-detnet-mpls-dp-00 SB> Section 10 and section 11 and move some material over. Please look for SB in the trimmed text below. ============ 1.  Introduction    Deterministic Networking (DetNet) is a service that can be offered by    a network to DetNet flows.  DetNet provides these flows extremely low    packet loss rates and assured maximum end-to-end delivery latency. SB> DetNet provides these flows with an extremely low    packet loss rates and an assured maximum end-to-end delivery latency. ====== 2.  Terminology 2.1.  Terms used in this document SB> The thing I keep looking for is a term for the DN object SB> to use in the same way that I would use the work pseudowire SB> We really need an agreed term so that we can easily talk SB> about it as an object. =======    Local-ID      A DetNet Edge and Relay node internal construct that                  uniquely identifies a DetNet flow within a node and                  never appear on-wire.  It may be used to select proper                  forwarding and/or DetNet specific service function. SB> If it does not appear on the wire this is really control plane SB> and thus out of scope. =========    PREF          A Packet Replication and Elimination Function (PREF)                  does the replication and elimination processing of                  DetNet flow packets in edge or relay nodes.  The                  replication function is essentially the existing 1+n                  protection mechanism.  The elimination function reuses                  and extends the existing duplicate detection mechanism                  to operate over multiple (separate) DetNet member flows                  of a DetNet compound flow. SB> I really think that we need to split the functions: SB> PR, EF and ROF (re-order) You can have any of them at a SB> node, and so not need to have them all. =========    DetNet Control Word  A control word used for sequencing and                  identifying duplaicate packets at the DetNet service                  layer. 2.2.  Abbreviations    PREF          Packet Replication and Elimination Function. SB> So here I think we are going to need PRF, EF and ROF. ==========       TSN    |<---------- End to End DetNet Service ------>|  TSN      Service |           Transit           Transit | Service  TSN  (AC)   |        |<-Tunnel->| |<-Tnl->|        |  (AC)  TSN  End    |    V        V     1    V        V   2   V V   |    End  System |    +--------+          +--------+ +--------+   |  System  +---+  |    |   E1   |==========|   R1   |=======|   E2 |   |   +---+  |   |--|----|._X_....|..DetNet..|.._ _...|..DF3..|...._X_.|---|---|   |  |CE1|  |    |    \   |  Flow 1  |   X    |       |   / |   |   |CE2|  |   |       |     \_.|...DF2....|._/ \_..|..DF4..|._/ |       |   |  +---+       |        |==========|        |=======| |       +---+      ^       +--------+          +--------+ +--------+       ^      |        Edge Node          Relay Node       Edge Node        | |                                                             |      |<----- Emulated Time Sensitive Networking (TSN) Service ---->|                     Figure 1: IEEE 802.1TSN over DetNet    Figure 2 illustrates how end to end MPLS-based DetNet service is    provided in a more detail.  In this case, the end systems are able to    send and receive DetNet flows.  For example, an end system sends data    encapsulated in MPLS. SB> I don't think that this is a likely scenario. What is more SB> likely is a PE model with the Edge nodes as PEs. ========    An example MPLS DetNet network fragment and packet flow is    illustrated in Figure 3 .       1111   11111111  111111   222222   2222222     333    CE1----EN1--------R1-------R2-------R3--------EN2----CE2             \2          22222/                 3 /              \2222222  /----+                 3 /               +------R4------------------------+                        333333333333333333333333        Figure 3: Example Packet flow in DetNet Enabled MPLS Network    Customer Equipment CE1 send a packet into the DetNet enabled MPLS    network.  Edge Node EN1 SB> I think that this is where the MPLS encap likely happens. ========    1.  DetNet function related scenarios:        *  Congestion protection and latency control: usage of allocated           resources (queuing, policing, shaping).        *  Explicit routes: select/apply the flow specific path.        *  Service protection: recognize DetNet compound and member flows           for replication an elimination.        Comment #1  I am not sure whether the correct architectural           construct is flow or flow group.  Flow suggests that sharing/           aggregation is not allowed but whether this is allowed or not           is an application specific issue.        Discussion:  Agree that a flow group would be a better           characterization. SB> Agree        Comment #2  I think that there needs to be some clarification as           to whether FG is is understood by the DN system exclusively or           whether there is an expectation that it is understood by the           underlay.        Discussion:  Agree that more detail is needed here. DetNet aware           nodes need to understand flow groups.  Underlay needs to be           aware of flow groups at the resource allocation level. SB> The model I was using for VPN+ seems right. The underlay SB> has resources set asside with certain properties. The SB> control plane maps the respources to the slices. SB> A Detnet FG runs on a slice. There are of course two methods SB> of describing the mapping in the DP, explicit (a label for the resource), SB> and implicit (a lable for the path which is mapped to the resource). ===========    2.  OAM function related scenarios:      Each DetNet node (edge, relay and transit) use an internal/    implementation specific local-ID of the DetNet-(compound)-flow in    order to accomplish its role during transport. Recognizing the    DetNet flow is more relaxed for edge and relay nodes, as they are    fully aware of both the DetNet service and transport layers.  The    primary DetNet role of intermediate transport nodes is limited to    ensuring congestion protection and latency control for the above    listed DetNet functions. SB> A relay node can be fully aware as well. The way I had in mind SB> was for the relay nodes to recognise and operate on the SB> service label.    The DetNet data plane allows for the aggregation of DetNet flows,    e.g., via MPLS hierarchical LSPs, to improved scaling. When DetNet    flows are aggregated, transit nodes may have limited ability to    provide service on per-flow DetNet identifiers. Therefore,    identifying each individual DetNet flow on a transit node may not be    achieved in some network scenarios, but DetNet service can still be    assured in these scenarios through resource allocation and control.    Comment #3  You could introduce the concept of a flow group       identified into the packet.  You may also include a flow id at a       lower layer. SB> So do we need heirachical service labels? SB> Not something we needed in PW, and a new MPLS construct, but SB> quite feasible.    Discussion:  Agree on the identification properties. Adding a       specific id into actual on-wire formats is not necessarily needed. SB> I do not understand this point.    On each DetNet node dealing with DetNet flows, an internal local-ID    is assumed to determine what local operation a packet goes through.    Therefore, local-IDs has to be unique on each edge and relay nodes.    Local-ID is unambiguously bound to the DetNet flow. SB> Maybe we think of different things when you say local-id. SB> We need to discuss. SB> Is a local ID a control plane concept (out of scope) or is SB> it equivalent to a PW of VPN label. 4.2.  Packet replication and elimination considerations    DetNet service layer introduces packet replication and elimination    functionality (PREF) for use in DetNet edge and relay node and end    system packet processing.  PREF MAY be enabled in a DetNet node and    the required processing is only applied to packets with a positive    flow identification at the DetNet service layer.  PREF utilizes a    sequence number carried within a DetNet flow packets. SB> Here we go back to the fundamental question of whether PREF SB> is a single function. I think it is three components and thus SB> using the term PREF in this way add confusion.    At a DetNet node level the output of the PREF elimination function is    always a single packet. SB> No it is not. Look at Fig 3 R4. Do you mean the PREF EF is only SB> one packet? ========== 4.3.  Packet reordering considerations    DetNet service layer introduces also packet reordering functionality SB>d/also/    for use in DetNet edge and relay node and end system packet    processing.  The reordering functionality MAY be enabled in a DetNet    node.  The reordeing functionality relies on a presence of sequence    numbers in a DetNet (compound) flows.  The reordering processing is    only applied to packets with a positive flow identification at the    DetNet service layer. SB> What is "a positive flow identification" 5.  DetNet encapsulation 5.1.  End-system specific considerations    Data-flows requiring DetNet service are generated and terminated on    end-systems.  Encapsulation depends on application and its    preferences.  In a DetNet (or even a TSN) domain the DN (TSN)    functions use at most two flow parameters, namely Flow-ID and    Sequence Number.  However, an application may exchange further flow    related parameters (e.g., time-stamp), which are not considered by DN    functions. SB> So  Greg, Yaakov and I had a discussion at the Paris MPLS SB> mtg abou this. We think that we will likely need the concept SB> of strict flow re-order, but also a time-based function SB> in which we only re-order "young" packets. This lead us to SB> considering the s/n to be a timesstamp in some implimentations. =============    As a general rule, DetNet domains MUST be capable to forward any SB> s/capable to forward/capable of forwarding/    Data-flows and the DetNet domain MUST NOT intend to mandate end- SB> d/intend to/    system encapsulation format. ============== 5.2.  DetNet domain specific considerations    From connection type perspective three scenarios are distinguished: SB> s/From/From a/    1.  Directly attached: end-system is directly connected to an edge        node    2.  Indirectly attached: end-system is behind a (L2-TSN / L3-DetNet)        sub-net    3.  DN integrated: end-system is part of the DetNet domain    L3 end-systems may use any of these connection types, however L2 end-    systems may use only the first two (directly or indirectly attached). Korhonen & Varga        Expires October 25, 2018               [Page 11] Internet-Draft           DetNet MPLS Data Plane               April 2018    DetNet domain MUST allow communication between any end-systems of the    same type (L2-L2, L3-L3), independent of their connection type and    DetNet capability. SB> I think you ought to build L2 only, L3 only and mixed mode. SB> this may be important in terms of the cost of the relay nodes.    However directly attached and indirectly attached    end-systems have no knowledge about the DetNet domain and its    encapsulation format at all.  See the figure below for L3 end-system    scenarios.                                                ____+----+                        +----+        _____    /    | ES3|                        | ES1|____   /     \__/ +----+___                        +----+    \ / \ +                          |                           ____     \ _/             +----+     __/    \     +__    DetNet domain /             | ES2|____/  L2/L3 |___/   \         __     __/             +----+    \_______/         \_______/  \___/                Figure 5: Connection types of L3 end-systems 5.2.1.  DetNet Bridging Service    The simplest DetNet service is to provide bridging (i.e., tunneling    for L2), where the connected hosts are in the same broadcast (BC)    domain.  Forwarding over the DetNet domain is based on L2 (MAC)    addresses (i.e. dst-MAC), so L2 headers MUST be kept. For both IP    and MPLS PSN a DetNet specific tunnel encapsulation MUST be    introduced. SB> There is a simpler model that may also be of interest the SB> PW model where it is the interface that is used to select the SB> destination. ============== ============                                   +------+                                   |  X   |                          +------+ +------+                          |  X   | |  IP  |                          +------+ +------+              End+system  |  L2  | |  L2  | +-----+======+-+======+--+======+-+======++              DetNet tunnel                  |  IP  | | MPLS |                                             +------+ +------+                                             |  L2  | |  L2 |                                             +------+ +------+              Examples                                             +------+ +------+                                             |  X   | |  X |                          +------+ +------+  +------+ +------+                          |  X   | |  X   |  |  IP  | |  IP |                          +------+ +------+  +------+ +------+                          |  L2  | |  L2  |  |  L2  | |  L2 | ++======+-+======+--+======+-+======++                          |  IP  | | MPLS |  |  IP  | | MPLS |                          +------+ +------+  +------+ +------+                          |  L2  | |  L2  |  |  L2  | |  L2 |                          +------+ +------+  +------+ +------+             Figure 6: Encapsulation format for DetNet Bridging SB> That is not quite right. We need the d-CW in the layering. SB> This may be explicity called out of symbolically included SB> as a shim. =========== 5.2.2.1.  MPLS PSN    In case of an MPLS PSN at the ingress/egress (i.e., PE nodes of    DetNet domain) the IP packets are encapsulated in MPLS. The data-    flow IP header MUST be preserved as-is. Korhonen & Varga        Expires October 25, 2018               [Page 13] Internet-Draft           DetNet MPLS Data Plane               April 2018                      +------+ +------+                      |  X   |                         | X   |                      +------+ +------+           End+system |  IP  |                         | IP  |                 -----+------+-------+======+--- --+======+--           DetNet                    | MPLS |          | MPLS |                                     +------+ +------+                                     |  L2  |          | L2  |                                     +------+ +------+ SB> This really does need the shim since the stack on the right SB> may be confused with ordinary IP over MPLS    Figure 7: Encapsulation format for DetNet Routing in MPLS PSN for L3                                 end-systems 5.3.  DetNet Inter-Working Function (DN-IWF) 5.3.1.  Networks with multiple technology segments    There are network scenarios, where the DetNet domain contains    multiple technology segments (IP, MPLS) and all those segments are    under the same administrative control (see Figure 8). Furthermore,    DetNet nodes may be interconnected via TSN segments.    An important aspect of DetNet network design is placement of DetNet    functions across the domain.  Designs based on segment-by-segment    optimization can provide only suboptimal solutions.  In order to    achieve global optimum Inter-Working Functions (DN-IWF) can be placed    at segment border nodes, which stich together DetNet flows across    connected segments.    DN-IWF may ensure that flow attributes are correlated across segment    borders.  For example, there are two DetNet functions which require    Sequence Numbers: (1) Elimination: removes duplications from flows    and (2) IOD: ensures in-order-delivery of packet in a flow.    Stitching flows together and correlating attributes means for example    that replication of packets can happen in one segment and elimination    of duplicates in a different one. SB> Do we really need this? It will add a lot of complexity and SB> in practice such IWFs are rearely implemented. If one SB> is needed it is likely to end up being proprietary. ==============                                    ______                          _____    /      \__             ____        /     \__/          \___    ______ +----+   __/    +======+                        +==+ \     +----+ |src |__/  Seg1  )     |                        |  \  Seg3 \____| dst| +----+  \_______+      \        Segment-2       | \+_____/    +----+                  \======+__                    _+===/                            \         __     __/                             \_______/  \___/                                           +------------+              +------------------E----+    |            | +----+       |                  |    +----R---+ |          +----+ |src |-------R              +---+             | E----------+ dst| +----+       |              | E--------+          +----+              +--------------R                 |                             +-----------------+       Figure 8: Optimal replication and elimination placement across                         technology segments example SB> So here we have separated the R and the E functions. ========== ========= SB> This ought to be the core of this  document with most of the earlier SB> text in a data-plane arch draft. 6.  MPLS-based DetNet data plane solution 6.1.  DetNet over MPLS Encapsulation Components ======== ====== 6.3.  DetNet control word    A DetNet control word (d-CW) conforms to the Generic PW MPLS Control    Word (PWMCW) defined in [RFC4385] and is illustrated in Figure 11.    The upper nibble of the d-CW MUST be set to zero (0). The effective    sequence number bit length is between 0 and 28 bits, and configured    either by a control plane or manually for each DetNet flow.  The    sequence number is aligned to the right (least significant bits) and    unused bits MUST be set to zero (0).  Each DetNet flow MUST have its    own sequence number counter.  The sequence number is incremented by    one for each new packet.    The d-CW MUST always be present in a packet.  In a case the sequence    number is not used (e.g., for DetNet-t-flows) the control plane or    the manual configuration has to define zero (0) bit length seqeunce    number and the value of the sequence number MUST be set to zero (0).    [Editor's'note: TSN compatibility to be ensured (16 bits vs. 28    bits).] SB> If we want to we can put the 16 bits in the bottom of the 28 bits SB> and configure the DN to be 16 bits by configuration. 7.4.  Bidirectional traffic    [Editor's NOTE: delete this section and treat bi-dir flows as two    uni-dir ???] SB> That is what PWs do, but then we found this problematic in MPLS-TP SB> we need to discuss. 8.  Time synchronization    [Editor's NOTE: delete this section (scope time synchronization    solution outside data plane).]    Comment #10  SB> This section should point the reader to RFC8169       (residence time in MPLS n/w.  We need to consider if we need to       introduce the same concept in IP.    Discussion:  Agree.  For IP we could reference to PTPv2 or v3 over       UDP/IP, since it measures residence time among other things. SB> We need a voice discussion, perhaps at an interim. 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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f83sm1496116wmh.32.2018.04.23.11.47.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Apr 2018 11:47:40 -0700 (PDT) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Bal=c3=a1zs_Varga_A?= , "detnet@ietf.org" References: From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:47:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Initial DP split documents available X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:47:44 -0000 With the IP document I started looking at it from section 6 onwards but found little to look at since much of the text after section 6 is placeholder. Again I wonder if we need  some small group shared desktop sessions to pull the detail into shape. Alternatively maybe a few days of small group F2F would move us forward. That is certainly how we made major progress with a number of MPLS-TP and PW drafts. - Stewart From nobody Mon Apr 23 16:02:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietf.org Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD930126FDC; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:02:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: lberger@labn.net, detnet@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, detnet-chairs@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.79.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152452454073.28831.10877619470038414912.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:02:20 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] detnet - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 102 X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 23:02:21 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Lou Berger, a Chair of the detnet working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Deterministic Networking Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Lou Berger Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: pce teas ccamp netmod mpls Second Priority: rtgwg nvo3 tsvwg pals bess People who must be present: Lou Berger Deborah Brungard Jouni Korhonen Patricia Thaler Janos Farkas Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Apr 23 18:14:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietf.org Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BC9126FDC; Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:14:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: detnet@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.79.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152453246935.28907.4369856358499687304@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:14:29 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-detnet-security-02.txt X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 01:14:29 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Deterministic Networking WG of the IETF. Title : Deterministic Networking (DetNet) Security Considerations Authors : Tal Mizrahi Ethan Grossman Andrew J. Hacker Subir Das John Dowdell Henrik Austad Kevin Stanton Norman Finn Filename : draft-ietf-detnet-security-02.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2018-04-23 Abstract: A deterministic network is one that can carry data flows for real- time applications with extremely low data loss rates and bounded latency. Deterministic networks have been successfully deployed in real-time operational technology (OT) applications for some years (for example [ARINC664P7]). However, such networks are typically isolated from external access, and thus the security threat from external attackers is low. IETF Deterministic Networking (DetNet) specifies a set of technologies that enable creation of deterministic networks on IP-based networks of potentially wide area (on the scale of a corporate network) potentially bringing the OT network into contact with Information Technology (IT) traffic and security threats that lie outside of a tightly controlled and bounded area (such as the internals of an aircraft). These DetNet technologies have not previously been deployed together on a wide area IP-based network, and thus can present security considerations that may be new to IP- based wide area network designers. This draft, intended for use by DetNet network designers, provides insight into these security considerations. In addition, this draft collects all security- related statements from the various DetNet drafts (Architecture, Use Cases, etc) into a single location Section 7. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-security/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-detnet-security-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-detnet-security-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-detnet-security-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Work is currently paused on the draft, waiting for the final = decisions on the Data Plane technologies. Once those are in, we can add sec= tions to this draft which are specific to those technologies.=20 Best, Ethan. -----Original Message----- From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@= ietf.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 6:14 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: detnet@ietf.org Subject: [Detnet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-detnet-security-02.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Deterministic Networking WG of the IETF. Title : Deterministic Networking (DetNet) Security Consid= erations Authors : Tal Mizrahi Ethan Grossman Andrew J. Hacker Subir Das John Dowdell Henrik Austad Kevin Stanton Norman Finn Filename : draft-ietf-detnet-security-02.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2018-04-23 Abstract: A deterministic network is one that can carry data flows for real- time applications with extremely low data loss rates and bounded latency. Deterministic networks have been successfully deployed in real-time operational technology (OT) applications for some years (for example [ARINC664P7]). However, such networks are typically isolated from external access, and thus the security threat from external attackers is low. IETF Deterministic Networking (DetNet) specifies a set of technologies that enable creation of deterministic networks on IP-based networks of potentially wide area (on the scale of a corporate network) potentially bringing the OT network into contact with Information Technology (IT) traffic and security threats that lie outside of a tightly controlled and bounded area (such as the internals of an aircraft). These DetNet technologies have not previously been deployed together on a wide area IP-based network, and thus can present security considerations that may be new to IP- based wide area network designers. This draft, intended for use by DetNet network designers, provides insight into these security considerations. In addition, this draft collects all security- related statements from the various DetNet drafts (Architecture, Use Cases, etc) into a single location Section 7. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-security/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-detnet-security-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-detnet-security-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-detnet-security-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ detnet mailing list detnet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet From nobody Tue Apr 24 05:53:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB52126CC4; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 05:53:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qVRIpJpPir4C; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 05:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E952126BF7; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 05:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.sbs.de (mail2.sbs.de [192.129.41.66]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w3OCrow4026359 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:53:50 +0200 Received: from DEFTHW99ERLMSX.ww902.siemens.net (defthw99erlmsx.ww902.siemens.net [139.22.70.136]) by mail2.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w3OCqwtA012042 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:53:49 +0200 Received: from DEFTHW99ERFMSX.ww902.siemens.net (139.22.70.67) by DEFTHW99ERLMSX.ww902.siemens.net (139.22.70.136) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.389.1; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:53:19 +0200 Received: from DEFTHW99EH5MSX.ww902.siemens.net ([169.254.3.11]) by DEFTHW99ERFMSX.ww902.siemens.net ([139.22.70.67]) with mapi id 14.03.0389.001; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:53:18 +0200 From: "Goetz, Franz-Josef" To: "detnet-chairs@ietf.org" , "detnet@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-13 Thread-Index: AdPbyx721fTZCS8ISNGVsvCmUbwIKw== Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:53:18 +0000 Message-ID: <663599896AC8A247B348EBA168F8234F12D3F6FC@DEFTHW99EH5MSX.ww902.siemens.net> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [139.22.70.52] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_663599896AC8A247B348EBA168F8234F12D3F6FCDEFTHW99EH5MSXw_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases-13 X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:53:55 -0000 --_000_663599896AC8A247B348EBA168F8234F12D3F6FCDEFTHW99EH5MSXw_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Best regards, Franz Goetz --_000_663599896AC8A247B348EBA168F8234F12D3F6FCDEFTHW99EH5MSXw_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
 
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

 


 


Best regards,


Franz Goetz
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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, We have had a good discussion during the working meeting today. The direction of the document split work is as follows: - the "dp-sol-ip" document will be a "thin" document just describing native= IP - MPLS over IP (Andy's doc) and IP over MPLS (existing doc + Stewart's doc)= will be in "dp-sol-mpls" - TSN over MPLS goes also in MPLS solution doc (i.e., "dp-sol-mpls") - DetNet level resiliency (PR, EF and IoD) uses MPLS encapsulation - Other transport protocols, e.g., L2TPv3, requires new individual ID & dis= cussion So still a lot to do, therefore further working meeting(s) will be announce= d soon. Cheers Bala'zs (& Jouni) From: Bal=E1zs Varga A Sent: 2018. =E1prilis 22. 9:33 To: detnet@ietf.org Subject: RE: Initial DP split documents available Hi, Just a friendly reminder, please send your comments (if any). The sooner the better ... Note: DetNet working meeting 24th April at 17:00 CEST Thanks Bala'zs From: Bal=E1zs Varga A Sent: 2018. =E1prilis 16. 7:50 To: detnet@ietf.org Subject: Initial DP split documents available Hi, The initial version of the DP split documents are available here: https://github.com/detnet-wg Mail based review is started. Please, provide your comments via the mailing= -list first. If You intend to edit the documents you can clone the master and do pull re= quests after sending your comments to the list. Inputs are appreciated before 24th April 11:00am (GMT). Thanks & Cheers Bala'zs & Jouni --_000_AM3PR07MB064784045E8049E1B5342F7DAC880AM3PR07MB0647eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

We have had a good discussion during the working mee= ting today.

The direction of the document split work is as follo= ws:

- the “dp-sol-ip” document will be a &qu= ot;thin" document just describing native IP

- MPLS over IP (Andy's doc) and IP over MPLS (existi= ng doc + Stewart’s doc) will be in “dp-sol-mpls”=

- TSN over MPLS goes also in MPLS solution doc (i.e.= , “dp-sol-mpls”)

- DetNet level resiliency (PR, EF and IoD) uses MPLS= encapsulation

- Other transport protocols, e.g., L2TPv3, requires = new individual ID & discussion

 

So still a lot to do, therefore further working meet= ing(s) will be announced soon.

 

Cheers

Bala’zs (& Jouni)

 

 

From: Bal=E1zs Varga A
Sent: 2018. =E1prilis 22. 9:33
To: detnet@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Initial DP split documents available

 

Hi,

Just a friendly reminder, please send your comments = (if any).

The sooner the better …

Note: DetNet working meeting 24th April at 17:00 CES= T

Thanks

Bala’zs

 

From: Bal=E1zs Varga A
Sent: 2018. =E1prilis 16. 7:50
To: detnet@ietf.org
Subject: Initial DP split documents available

 

Hi,

 

The initial version of the DP split documents are av= ailable here:

https://git= hub.com/detnet-wg

 

Mail based review is started. Please, provide your c= omments via the mailing-list first.

If You intend to edit the documents you can clone th= e master and do pull requests

after sending your comments to the list.<= /p>

 

Inputs are appreciated before 24th April = 11:00am (GMT).

 

Thanks & Cheers

Bala’zs & Jouni

 

 

--_000_AM3PR07MB064784045E8049E1B5342F7DAC880AM3PR07MB0647eurp_-- From nobody Tue Apr 24 12:39:32 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298B3124F57; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:39:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pRm5LP1tjHrg; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dggwg11-dlp.huawei.com (lhrrg12-dlp.huawei.com [194.213.3.62]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72BAC120727; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DFWPML704-CHM.exmail.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.65]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 80A0B8E6194CE; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:39:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from DFWPML705-CHM.exmail.huawei.com ([169.254.2.99]) by DFWPML704-CHM.exmail.huawei.com ([169.254.1.65]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:39:07 -0700 From: Norman Finn To: Lou Berger , "pthubert@cisco.com" , "balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com" , "janos.farkas@ericsson.com" CC: DetNet WG , DetNet Chairs Thread-Topic: [Detnet] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-architecture-04 Thread-Index: AQHT0ysAVr/ClfweaEGaxKXqQ5eIqaQQYW/3 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:39:04 +0000 Message-ID: <3DF0466E9510274382F5B74499ACD6F8D14A15@dfwpml705-chm.exmail.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.4.35] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-architecture-04 X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:39:31 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft=0A= =0A= -- Norm FInn=0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: detnet [detnet-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Lou Berger [lberger@lab= n.net]=0A= Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 6:25 AM=0A= To: Norman Finn; pthubert@cisco.com; balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com; janos.far= kas@ericsson.com=0A= Cc: DetNet WG; DetNet Chairs=0A= Subject: [Detnet] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-detnet-architecture-04=0A= =0A= Authors, Contributors, WG,=0A= =0A= As part of the preparation for WG LC:=0A= =0A= Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?=0A= =0A= Please state either:=0A= =0A= "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"=0A= or=0A= "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"=0A= =0A= If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=0A= (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?=0A= =0A= If yes to the above, please state either:=0A= =0A= "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"=0A= or=0A= "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"=0A= =0A= If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think=0A= appropriate.=0A= =0A= If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the=0A= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are=0A= aware of any relevant IPR. 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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q17sm5693096wmf.3.2018.04.25.01.23.44 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Apr 2018 01:23:44 -0700 (PDT) To: "detnet@ietf.org" From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <8447caf2-3fa7-f2b6-15f3-0545263dffc3@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:23:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:23:49 -0000 There was a question on the call yesterday about how to include a file in Kramdown where common text might be needed in two drafts. The syntax is {::include ./file.mkd} Just tested it and it works fine. - Stewart From nobody Wed Apr 25 01:39:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE8012708C for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 01:39:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vlZoR900O4xB for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 01:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 661F0124B0A for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 01:39:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=781; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1524645555; x=1525855155; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=yTwxUlM2MuVq5RiMjh312Iz9GeFzHPaLRa+BpGcMdRY=; b=cKV96KvX+izLj55lHhx24+t3rVyOQYErYI7Y5htZR5QCxhMaY/ZatK8g vCCJY4nbf+1EU5/+Rdn89gsYORz0qa2ewOI2FcT/ankK5D0X9TUprD3Ni C5rueV9j7xohAcELVWW0NzHF2rr1QjWbBb4Xe0oe57cbSukDxx9/F2AeU w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AdAQDOPeBa/5RdJa1bGQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQcBAQEBAYNDYXooCotijH2BdIEPkw2BeAsYC4QDRgKDAyE0GAECAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAmwcDIUiAQEBAQMBATg0FwQCAQgRBAEBHxAnCx0IAgQBEgiFBw+pEoh?= =?us-ascii?q?FgjoFiAyBVD+EGoMRAQGHFCACmAEIAo44jFiQDgIREwGBJAEcOIFScBU7gkO?= =?us-ascii?q?LEIU+b484gRgBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.49,325,1520899200"; d="scan'208";a="168375543" Received: from rcdn-core-12.cisco.com ([173.37.93.148]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 25 Apr 2018 08:39:13 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com (xch-rcd-001.cisco.com [173.37.102.11]) by rcdn-core-12.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w3P8dBcs031737 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:39:11 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 03:39:10 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 03:39:10 -0500 From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: Stewart Bryant , "detnet@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown Thread-Index: AQHT3G7Cz9BhigeMkkOg1vN3/Eb46KQRKBtA Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:38:45 +0000 Deferred-Delivery: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:38:20 +0000 Message-ID: <9899b00fbb254c639a82152791dbe956@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> References: <8447caf2-3fa7-f2b6-15f3-0545263dffc3@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <8447caf2-3fa7-f2b6-15f3-0545263dffc3@g3ysx.org.uk> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.228.216.17] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:39:19 -0000 Hello Stewart: I expect that we cannot use that for the online tool? Unless Carsten allows= to upload a zip? Take care, Pascal > -----Original Message----- > From: detnet On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: mercredi 25 avril 2018 10:24 > To: detnet@ietf.org > Subject: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown >=20 > There was a question on the call yesterday about how to include a file in > Kramdown where common text might be needed in two drafts. >=20 > The syntax is >=20 > {::include ./file.mkd} >=20 > Just tested it and it works fine. >=20 > - Stewart >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet From nobody Wed Apr 25 02:11:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED5112708C for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:11:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.61 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.61 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=g3ysx-org-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h-DwzqAz9ReA for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com (mail-wm0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C75641200F1 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id t67so5863079wmt.0 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:11:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=g3ysx-org-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=BXnox42ck/1nWAG2h+wCBOOrTjjpJ84SoLfDfrAM6e8=; b=LZYGIiljRWNYvaQ/WjJrY0/6blXO6TEgAhoh+D/WQPU2oAevJfframR51JQ/Co3Y++ wAcRZnyr11Y7kfQqlJRWC/XXoEQzn6UhRwDDYAeQ/VcpE/HKENwecx6SSBlJGIB6n05/ ag0+uugsgY4hyFNlTHC90llo6g+bTOzDh7Q67sLVCdhkbgBP1t01iaHvOqfWHKPf2eO+ f73fs2tFIgcnADzzg1UPaI+3xYOMg6XedZaGYB1NQn8uIbEoUQEiok8AMd9FlpydMRIz ZrjiArq4MS8ClkJlOMe70HeW25O3MogoyvPtAtoOat+b6+Fg2SbTabvMg3LKZ7BgZWB+ EOFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=BXnox42ck/1nWAG2h+wCBOOrTjjpJ84SoLfDfrAM6e8=; b=tWvAJoBTW9TwuR+EdosUkO3e6pc7pqMLH+evsrhxBJKvmR/Ys/Z6NbRghOK1mPTKBC 99AlB05zztE2kg3hxK/GzJudAZpoyI6u4x4Vp9IMJyzgYAzJJjurfq1gqR4+7ggcl/5b Mt29dR88o/kPZpI1V73sU9Av2lOcAnG3m1WNB2MGGELSNW6aEnuKK77IyaxsDYb34waV dTspClbpUF1H5Bki5Rqz97oSpiwtjHjoAXHT/W7RXIftfM1hrEOBFdTIxMwD0A4FgsGT Xbt0Zz4nwt2tnV7h1v3CnvjFbGmcBT4nevV4bOnX4KrLRkfjPKwUXZo+mKrkpftvQCID vV9g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBPAxfkAMUhNLZrk805dTSQvRpv4yGUeWOP9Q6am8Ej5Q8T3lUa 7Jn/QFuRXxSa7EnaCMx8sKD0NnlykdM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+YTSAynO+Q8G6FnWp3qijHtpTELR2B966NZhFalI752fuQEez/dvd7RPTNE5fnR6YKfQzOYQ== X-Received: by 10.28.13.201 with SMTP id 192mr15020768wmn.117.1524647493166; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.105] (host213-123-124-182.in-addr.btopenworld.com. [213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q4-v6sm13268989wrd.33.2018.04.25.02.11.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:11:32 -0700 (PDT) To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" , "detnet@ietf.org" References: <8447caf2-3fa7-f2b6-15f3-0545263dffc3@g3ysx.org.uk> <9899b00fbb254c639a82152791dbe956@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:11:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9899b00fbb254c639a82152791dbe956@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:11:36 -0000 Good point. I run the compiler in a Linux VM. - S On 25/04/2018 09:38, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > Hello Stewart: > > I expect that we cannot use that for the online tool? Unless Carsten allows to upload a zip? > > Take care, > > Pascal > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: detnet On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant >> Sent: mercredi 25 avril 2018 10:24 >> To: detnet@ietf.org >> Subject: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown >> >> There was a question on the call yesterday about how to include a file in >> Kramdown where common text might be needed in two drafts. >> >> The syntax is >> >> {::include ./file.mkd} >> >> Just tested it and it works fine. >> >> - Stewart >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> detnet mailing list >> detnet@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet From nobody Wed Apr 25 04:24:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: detnet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDEA1201FA for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:24:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gm8xrFKyyUkh for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com (mail-oi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5807A1201F8 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id y15-v6so12562782oia.13 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:24:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5pfsXgUKoqLT4hbs2AJc6Ko5Tie+zYy12apus1g1hq4=; b=BgxCzXDplAgl3aLVbLu0cMHRvkzBWDZOfoFVC/Bh9dWupIqjtRlsaxe92GVHsBtKx3 CepHduLv7QKZdl6L/xszEBG8+EJ4Nyzy/NZxiUrAwTiO+e7MXNV2rJ2ViUMVbHx6sup2 I8tvHlIuZsQ/KOAo0Ycvs/6taKlU90VnJeR8aB26I4Lv4u7TuHrBzutOjvKLq2RKuT/e nInDGG8cR38c2igW3az8qtQgkLsE9HoOV4FwaPB+edGcQqSVgfH+RYvNhM4hEbYLLQb4 io+Pwf13JQ1nd/DnftLi4DhKSeWN4luj9Nik67v7orvB7g3RckqwTErtvEqXVXcVLQN1 um7Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5pfsXgUKoqLT4hbs2AJc6Ko5Tie+zYy12apus1g1hq4=; b=r+VqG7TK82K8GOw2PX4800hy0YqjUyO7NglraXyers+Gu8BTThuTtEFxrPCKdbKorW eMGMjf+fa6/M3KqP7gP3HNqZGfWQbvNQcCVxR3xd5nM2r/NBao2RM0Zeb7LqNaJDcB+I 5QNJP2ZfdZoMdml4bMRCbH6yvVSTLZoyt+2xBT7LcQN5ID/PrYfCtiS3t8NI9n0MLuYx 36iNugXzUHn1Yh1I3Yexw9VJ5P/4nT8KJgjO1JpDqHc1wLHJvAjX0L+HrVGv1/L0TP4i pVqGUDWak9rbEZHVcpCuYJYXJFuYrdGxAQKZAIe95dBxmgW2k5xDVxrAaByBZMgMN4fx IsCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCWCZ9t/W1sk8M0BS4j2x3UU07wiGxf50dCDryM3XDyAN1E2LUF npR6VMntgIVhT+nTRjMwjATULZU8kCxMA03X67Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+6eEcILBPhmNblHjrQpijbKpAmwj8HfUwpeBt0NQopOd30vbzQ0yHfzpVWx66LqOhYNe8yY8vdK0DuzaLE4p8= X-Received: by 2002:aca:f447:: with SMTP id s68-v6mr18534631oih.204.1524655442713; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:24:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9d:1f3a:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 04:23:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8447caf2-3fa7-f2b6-15f3-0545263dffc3@g3ysx.org.uk> <9899b00fbb254c639a82152791dbe956@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 07:23:42 -0400 Message-ID: To: Stewart Bryant Cc: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" , "detnet@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000116088056aaa8250" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:24:06 -0000 --000000000000116088056aaa8250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Luckily, we decided against needing common text in the two drafts. :-) Cheers, Andy On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 5:11 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > Good point. > > I run the compiler in a Linux VM. > > - S > > > > On 25/04/2018 09:38, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > >> Hello Stewart: >> >> I expect that we cannot use that for the online tool? Unless Carsten >> allows to upload a zip? >> >> Take care, >> >> Pascal >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: detnet On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant >>> Sent: mercredi 25 avril 2018 10:24 >>> To: detnet@ietf.org >>> Subject: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown >>> >>> There was a question on the call yesterday about how to include a file in >>> Kramdown where common text might be needed in two drafts. >>> >>> The syntax is >>> >>> {::include ./file.mkd} >>> >>> Just tested it and it works fine. >>> >>> - Stewart >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> detnet mailing list >>> detnet@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > --000000000000116088056aaa8250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Luckily, we decided against needing common text in the two= drafts. :-)

Cheers,
Andy

=

On Wed, Apr= 25, 2018 at 5:11 AM, Stewart Bryant <stewart@g3ysx.org.uk> wrote:
Good point.

I run the compiler in a Linux VM.

- S



On 25/04/2018 09:38, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
Hello Stewart:

I expect that we cannot use that for the online tool? Unless Carsten allows= to upload a zip?

Take care,

Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: detnet <detnet-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
Sent: mercredi 25 avril 2018 10:24
To: detnet@ietf.org
Subject: [Detnet] Including a file in markdown/kramdown

There was a question on the call yesterday about how to include a file in Kramdown where common text might be needed in two drafts.

The syntax is

{::include ./file.mkd}

Just tested it and it works fine.

- Stewart



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Mon, 30 Apr 2018 07:41:50 -0600 To: DetNet WG Cc: David Black From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <7504fb1f-9e1d-de8a-ba3b-2eb628a65763@labn.net> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:41:49 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.86.101 X-Exim-ID: 1fD93u-000Psb-Cj X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-86-101.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.86.101]:32896 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: [Detnet] New WG Technical Advisor X-BeenThere: detnet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Deterministic Networking BoF and Proposed WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:43:51 -0000 All, We wanted to announce that David Black has agreed to serve as WG Technical Advisor. For those that don't know David, he has been active in the IETF Transport Area for quite some time, notably with DiffServ and as TSV WG co-chair. The discussions in London highlighted that it is critical for the DetNet to be well synchronized with solutions from the transport area and David's advice will surely help achieve this. We welcome David and look forward to his contribution! Janos and Lou