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Hello DINRG,

the meeting minutes (including a link to the recording) are here: =

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-dinrg-01/materials/minu=
tes-interim-2020-dinrg-01-202004062100

Let us know if you have corrections or additions.

Thanks again to all presenters and participants!

Best regards,
Melinda and Dirk




On 5 Apr 2020, at 21:47, Dirk Kutscher wrote:

> Hello DINRG,
>
> here is the final agenda with instructions for our meeting tomorrow:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-dinrg-01-dinrg-01/=

>
> DINRG Online Meeting -- 2020-04-06, 19:00 to 21:00 UTC
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>
> WebEx: =

> https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm37805be0136718da48409401af00b=
a88
> Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/DINRG-2020-04-06
> Jabber: xmpp:dinrg@jabber.ietf.org?join
>
> 1) Welcome, Agenda Bashing -- Chairs -- 5 min
> 2) Decentralizing LTE Authentication -- Sudheesh Singanamalla -- 30 =

> min
> 3) Interplanetary File System (IPFS) as Platform for Decentralized =

> Apps -- Yiannis Psaras  -- 30 min
> 4) Challenges in the Decentralised Web -- Gareth Tyson -- 30 min
> 5) Introduction to Blockchain Governance Initiative Network -- Shigeya =

> Suzuki -- 10 min
> 6) Wrap-up, Next Steps, Interim Planning -- Chairs 5 min
>
> Remote Participation Tips
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>
> To convert from UTC to your own timezone, please visit:
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/.
>
> Please remember that all sessions are being recorded. Please also:
>
>         - Ensure your video is off
>         - Keep yourself muted unless you are speaking.
>         - Use Webex chat only to join the mic queue
>                 - =E2=80=9C+q=E2=80=9D adds you the the queue
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>         - Add your name and affiliation to the virtual bluesheet (the =

> session
>         Etherpad) via IETF Datatracker Meeting agenda - Join the =

> session Jabber
>         room (see above)
>
> For more information on remote participation, please view the =

> Participant=E2=80=99s
> Guide at =

> https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/107/session-participant-guide/.
>
>
> See you tomorrow,
>
> Dirk & Melinda (DINRG chairs)
>
>
>
> On 31 Mar 2020, at 22:31, Dirk Kutscher wrote:
>
>> Hello DINRG,
>>
>> we have scheduled an online meeting for next week.
>>
>> Let us know if you have additional suggestions for the agenda or =

>> topics you would like to discuss.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Melinda and Dirk
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 Mar 2020, at 16:40, IESG Secretary wrote:
>>
>>> The Decentralized Internet Infrastructure (dinrg) Research Group =

>>> will hold
>>> a virtual interim meeting on 2020-04-06 from 21:00 to 23:00 =

>>> Europe/Berlin (19:00 to 21:00 UTC).
>>>
>>> Agenda:
>>> 1) Welcome, Agenda Bashing -- Chairs -- 10 min
>>> 2) Decentralizing LTE Authentication -- Sudheesh Singanamalla -- 30 =

>>> min
>>> 3) Yiannis Psaras -- Interplanetary File System (IPFS) as Platform =

>>> for Decentralized Apps -- 30 min
>>> 4) Gareth Tyson -- Challenges in the Decentralised Web -- 30 min
>>> 5) Wrap-up, Next Steps, Interim Planning -- Chairs 10 min
>>>
>>> Information about remote participation:
>>> WebEx (details TBD)
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Din mailing list
>>> Din@irtf.org
>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/din
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Din mailing list
>> Din@irtf.org
>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/din


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p dir=3D"auto">Hello DINRG,</p>
<p dir=3D"auto">the meeting minutes (including a link to the recording) a=
re here: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-din=
rg-01/materials/minutes-interim-2020-dinrg-01-202004062100" style=3D"colo=
r:#3983C4">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-dinrg-01/mat=
erials/minutes-interim-2020-dinrg-01-202004062100</a></p>
<p dir=3D"auto">Let us know if you have corrections or additions.</p>
<p dir=3D"auto">Thanks again to all presenters and participants!</p>
<p dir=3D"auto">Best regards,<br>
Melinda and Dirk</p>
<br><br><br><p dir=3D"auto">On 5 Apr 2020, at 21:47, Dirk Kutscher wrote:=
</p>
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<blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5=
px; padding-left:5px"><div id=3D"D82F03EA-7CE6-444F-980D-D6976763663C">

<div style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><div style=3D"white-space:normal">
<p dir=3D"auto">Hello DINRG,</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">here is the final agenda with instructions for our meetin=
g tomorrow:</p>

<p dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interi=
m-2020-dinrg-01-dinrg-01/" style=3D"color:#3983C4">https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-dinrg-01-dinrg-01/</a></p>

<h1 style=3D"font-size:1.4em">DINRG Online Meeting -- 2020-04-06, 19:00 t=
o 21:00 UTC</h1>

<p dir=3D"auto">WebEx: <a href=3D"https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3D=
m37805be0136718da48409401af00ba88" style=3D"color:#3983C4">https://ietf.w=
ebex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm37805be0136718da48409401af00ba88</a><br>
Etherpad: <a href=3D"https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/DINRG-2020-04-06" s=
tyle=3D"color:#3983C4">https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/DINRG-2020-04-06<=
/a><br>
Jabber: xmpp:<a href=3D"mailto:dinrg@jabber.ietf.org" style=3D"color:#398=
3C4">dinrg@jabber.ietf.org</a>?join</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">1) Welcome, Agenda Bashing -- Chairs -- 5 min<br>
2) Decentralizing LTE Authentication -- Sudheesh Singanamalla -- 30 min<b=
r>
3) Interplanetary File System (IPFS) as Platform for Decentralized Apps -=
- Yiannis Psaras  -- 30 min<br>
4) Challenges in the Decentralised Web -- Gareth Tyson -- 30 min<br>
5) Introduction to Blockchain Governance Initiative Network -- Shigeya Su=
zuki -- 10 min<br>
6) Wrap-up, Next Steps, Interim Planning -- Chairs 5 min</p>

<h1 style=3D"font-size:1.4em">Remote Participation Tips</h1>

<p dir=3D"auto">To convert from UTC to your own timezone, please visit:<b=
r>
<a href=3D"https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/" style=3D"color:#3983C=
4">https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/</a>.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Please remember that all sessions are being recorded. Ple=
ase also:</p>

<pre style=3D"background-color:#F7F7F7; border-radius:5px 5px 5px 5px; ma=
rgin-left:15px; margin-right:15px; max-width:90vw; overflow-x:auto; paddi=
ng:5px" bgcolor=3D"#F7F7F7"><code style=3D"background-color:#F7F7F7; bord=
er-radius:3px; margin:0; padding:0" bgcolor=3D"#F7F7F7">    - Ensure your=
 video is off
    - Keep yourself muted unless you are speaking.
    - Use Webex chat only to join the mic queue
            - =E2=80=9C+q=E2=80=9D adds you the the queue
            - =E2=80=9C-q=E2=80=9D removes you from the queue
    - Add your name and affiliation to the virtual bluesheet (the session=

    Etherpad) via IETF Datatracker Meeting agenda - Join the session Jabb=
er
    room (see above)
</code></pre>

<p dir=3D"auto">For more information on remote participation, please view=
 the Participant=E2=80=99s<br>
Guide at <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/107/session-partici=
pant-guide/" style=3D"color:#3983C4">https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/10=
7/session-participant-guide/</a>.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">See you tomorrow,</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Dirk &amp; Melinda (DINRG chairs)</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">On 31 Mar 2020, at 22:31, Dirk Kutscher wrote:</p>

</div>
<div style=3D"white-space:normal"><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px so=
lid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir=3D"auto">H=
ello DINRG,<br>
<br>
we have scheduled an online meeting for next week.<br>
<br>
Let us know if you have additional suggestions for the agenda or topics y=
ou would like to discuss.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Melinda and Dirk<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 31 Mar 2020, at 16:40, IESG Secretary wrote:<br>
</p>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #777; color:#999; margin:0 0 5=
px; padding-left:5px; border-left-color:#999"><p dir=3D"auto">The Decentr=
alized Internet Infrastructure (dinrg) Research Group will hold<br>
a virtual interim meeting on 2020-04-06 from 21:00 to 23:00 Europe/Berlin=
 (19:00 to 21:00 UTC).<br>
<br>
Agenda:<br>
1) Welcome, Agenda Bashing -- Chairs -- 10 min<br>
2) Decentralizing LTE Authentication -- Sudheesh Singanamalla -- 30 min<b=
r>
3) Yiannis Psaras -- Interplanetary File System (IPFS) as Platform for De=
centralized Apps -- 30 min<br>
4) Gareth Tyson -- Challenges in the Decentralised Web -- 30 min<br>
5) Wrap-up, Next Steps, Interim Planning -- Chairs 10 min<br>
<br>
Information about remote participation:<br>
WebEx (details TBD)<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Din mailing list<br>
Din@irtf.org<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/din" style=3D"color:#999=
">https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/din</a></p>
</blockquote><p dir=3D"auto">____________________________________________=
___<br>
Din mailing list<br>
Din@irtf.org<br>
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Din mailing list<br>
Din@irtf.org<br>
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> From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
> To: IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
> Subject: [irsg] Fwd: Reminder: Survey on planning for possible online 
> IETF meetings
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 07:48:03 -0400
>
> Please circulate this to your working group lists. The survey data 
> will be very important as we plan future IETF meetings.
>
> Thanks,
> Alissa
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: IETF Executive Director <exec-director@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Reminder: Survey on planning for possible online IETF 
>> meetings
>> Date: May 4, 2020 at 3:03:35 AM EDT
>> To: "IETF Announcement List" <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
>> Reply-To: ietf108planning@ietf.org
>>
>> This is a reminder that we need the IETF community to help us plan 
>> for the possibility that one or more upcoming IETF meetings in 2020 
>> and possibly 2021 may not be able to go ahead in person.  You can 
>> help us with this by filling out the following survey:
>>
>> 	https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5328FFJ
>>
>> So far we have 114 responses and we would ideally like 500 or more.
>>
>> The survey contains the following pages and will take 15-20 minutes 
>> to complete:
>>
>> 1. Welcome
>> 2. Online IETF 107 and the subsequent virtual interims
>> 3. Replacing a cancelled in-person meeting
>> 4. Online meeting format and timezone
>> 5. Replicating humming
>> 6. Replicating the hallway environment
>> 7. Fees
>> 8. Thanks and anything else
>>
>> We run the survey in anonymous mode which means that we only see data 
>> that you explicitly provide.
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>
>> -- 
>> Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair
>> Jay Daley, IETF Executive Director
>> Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> IETF-Announce mailing list
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Subject: [irsg] Fwd: Reminder: Survey on planning for possible online IET=
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""></span></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">This is a =
reminder that we need the IETF community to help us plan for the possibil=
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Hi DINRG,

You may have heard about the recent launch of the Trust Over IP 
Foundation: https://trustoverip.org/ that is indirectly related to DINRG 
topics.

If this is new to you, here is an introductory article: 
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9031548

Best regards,
Dirk

