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Quick Notes from San Diego
	- Philip Guenther and Barry Leiba were encouraged to start planning  
a BoF on notifications of events from email systems (BIFF, maybe?).
	- Some discussion on how to bring SMTP on up the standards track --  
I think this will be pursued on ietf-smtp@imc.org.

Document Status and progress

PUBLISHED documents this month: none

APPROVED documents this month: none
	- draft-ietf-imapext-annotate (Experimental): Although IESG approved  
this, we still need to add RFC Editor notes or update the document so  
that the IANA actions are clear.	

Documents in IESG Evaluation:
	- draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-10, Usenet article format revision: Two  
IESG DISCUSS issues open.   May need to add normative dependency to  
UsePro draft, in order to get full implementability and have complete  
security considerations.

Documents in IETF Last Call: none

Documents in AD Evaluation or otherwise waiting on me:
	- draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history: New version produced in  
November in response to AD review.  Need to review.
	- draft-snell-atompub-feed-license-09.txt (Informational): New  
version produced in November to make sure the scope of the license is  
useful according to consensus that arose in last call.  Need to review.

Documents needing new versions:
	- draft-ietf-atompub-protocol: Sent my AD evaluation questions and  
comments  to the AtomPub list; chairs promised new revision
	- draft-ietf-sieve-3028bis-09: next version needs to deal with ABNF  
issues, nits, and long thread on escaping non-UTF8 data, IETF Last  
call questions and IANA question.
	- draft-kunze-rfc2413bis (Informational, RFC Ed Submission): Author  
decided to do another revision.
	- draft-gulbrandsen-collation-basic: dependency for IMAPEXT SORT;  
has list of open issues in draft.

Other/tracking:
	- draft-melnikov-imap-expunged-02.txt: Dropped this document from my  
shepherding queue, as it's now going to be covered in a complementary  
Lemonade WG draft (draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect-client).
	- draft-ietf-imapext-sort-18 depends on draft-gulbrandsen-collation- 
basic-00.
	- draft-siemborski-rfc2554bis-05.txt added to my queue: author  
requesting reviews, then new version expected.
	- draft-ietf-imapext-i18n-06.txt: WG last call in IMAPEXT happening  
again

Working Group Activity

AtomPub:  Discussing Media entries, atom:content src attribute, what  
format categories documents can take, and other publishing protocol  
issues.  Off-charter: discussing autodiscovery drafts, paged feeds.
UseFor: Starting work on UsePro.
IMAPExt: Discussing SORT, IDLE and IDLEPLUS, ENABLE, various metadata  
proposals, and Mark and Arnt's new comparator work.
Sieve: Lots of discussion on how to reject spam (with protocol-level  
reject or sending MDNs, and how to preserve existing behavior where  
already in use), on managesieve, and on the "ihave" extension.
Calsify: Steadily resolving issues for revision of RFC2445.
Widex:  No action.

Other Activity

Apps Architecture Review Team : Julian reviewed RFC4234.
Apps Discuss list: Discussions about using port numbers vs. SRV  
records, deprecating the concept of "well-known port", and about  
escaping Unicode characters.
W3C related: no activity noted
HTTP: Significant activity on ietf-http-wg@w3.org (NOT a currently  
active WG)

Lisa
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discussion on how to bring SMTP on up the standards track -- I think =
this will be pursued on=A0<A =
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margin-left: 0px; "><B>Document Status and progress</B></DIV><DIV =
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min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">PUBLISHED =
documents this month: none</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal =
normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; ">APPROVED documents this month: none</DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; =
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class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</SPAN>-=A0draft-ietf-imapext-annotate (<I>Experimental</I>): Although =
IESG approved this, we still need to add RFC Editor notes or update the =
document so that the IANA actions are clear.<SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span"=
 style=3D"white-space:pre">	</SPAN></SPAN></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Documents in =
IESG Evaluation:=A0</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</SPAN>-=A0draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-10,=A0Usenet article format =
revision: Two IESG DISCUSS issues open.=A0 =A0May need to add normative =
dependency to UsePro draft, in order to get full implementability and =
have complete security considerations.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: =
normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; =
"><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Documents in IETF Last Call: =
none</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal =
12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Documents in AD Evaluation or otherwise waiting on =
me:</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</SPAN>- =
draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history: New version produced in November =
in response to AD review.=A0 Need to review.</SPAN></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</SPAN>-=A0draft-snell-atompub-feed-license-09.txt=A0(<I>Informational</I>=
<I>)</I>: New version produced in November to make sure the scope of the =
license is useful according to consensus that arose in last call.=A0 =
Need to review.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal =
12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Documents needing new versions:</DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</SPAN>- draft-ietf-atompub-protocol: =
Sent my AD evaluation questions and comments=A0 to the AtomPub list; =
chairs promised new revision</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</SPAN>- =
draft-ietf-sieve-3028bis-09: next version needs to deal with ABNF =
issues, nits, and long thread on escaping non-UTF8 data, IETF Last call =
questions and IANA question.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</SPAN>-=A0draft-kunze-rfc2413bis (<I>Informational, RFC Ed Submission): =
</I>Author decided to do another revision.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</SPAN>-=A0draft-gulbrandsen-collation-basic: dependency for IMAPEXT =
SORT; has list of open issues in draft.<BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top:=
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class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">Other/tracking:</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</SPAN>-=A0draft-melnikov-imap-expunged-02.txt: Dropped this document =
from my shepherding queue, as it's now going to be covered in a =
complementary Lemonade WG draft =
(draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect-client).</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</SPAN>-=A0draft-ietf-imapext-sort-18=A0depends =
on=A0draft-gulbrandsen-collation-basic-00.=A0=A0</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</SPAN>-=A0draft-siemborski-rfc2554bis-05.txt added to my queue: author =
requesting reviews, then new version expected.</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</SPAN>-=A0draft-ietf-imapext-i18n-06.txt:=
 WG last call in IMAPEXT happening again</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: =
normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><B>Working =
Group Activity=A0</B></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal =
12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">AtomPub:=A0 Discussing Media entries, atom:content =
src attribute, what format categories documents can take, and other =
publishing protocol issues.=A0 Off-charter: discussing autodiscovery =
drafts, paged feeds.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">UseFor: Starting work on =
UsePro.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">IMAPExt: Discussing SORT, IDLE =
and IDLEPLUS, ENABLE, various metadata proposals, and Mark and Arnt's =
new comparator work.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sieve: Lots of discussion =
on how to reject spam (with protocol-level reject or sending MDNs, and =
how to preserve existing behavior where already in use), on managesieve, =
and on the "ihave" extension.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Calsify: =
Steadily resolving issues for revision of RFC2445.</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Widex:=A0 No action.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: =
normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; =
"><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><B>Other Activity</B></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; =
min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Apps =
Architecture Review Team : Julian reviewed RFC4234.</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Apps Discuss list: Discussions about using port =
numbers vs. SRV records, deprecating the concept of "well-known port", =
and about escaping Unicode characters.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">W3C =
related: no activity noted</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">HTTP: =
Significant activity on <A href=3D"mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#0020E2">ietf-http-wg@w3.org</FONT></A> (NOT a currently active =
WG)</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal =
12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Lisa</DIV></BODY></HTML>=

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