From discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org Fri Mar 02 12:33:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNBcD-0000RX-TL; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:32:21 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNBcC-0000R2-UO for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:32:20 -0500 Received: from mail1.microsoft.com ([131.107.115.212] helo=smtp.microsoft.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNBc3-0006Ci-TW for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:32:20 -0500 Received: from tk1-exhub-c102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.56.116.113) by TK5-EXGWY-E801.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.685.24; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:32:10 -0800 Received: from NA-EXMSG-C116.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.62.39]) by tk1-exhub-c102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.56.116.113]) with mapi; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:32:10 -0800 From: Robert McMurray To: "'discuss@apps.ietf.org'" Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:32:10 -0800 Subject: FTP Extensions Thread-Topic: FTP Extensions Thread-Index: Acdc8LUbw9OZUFMDRpenAgtTc5k77w== Message-ID: <2A0C5133697D74488F4BD107A2429C2A2DCDF1B13F@NA-EXMSG-C116.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f X-BeenThere: discuss@apps.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: general discussion of application-layer protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org Hello, I'm trying to find the correct working group to submit a proposed extension= to the File Transfer Protocol. At one time there was an FTP extensions gro= up, but that appears to have been concluded: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/ftpext-charter.html With that in mind, which working group would you suggest to receive draft s= ubmissions for the File Transfer Protocol? Thanks in advance for any assistance. Robert McMurray US-IIS Product Unit Phone: 425-707-1982 Email: robmcm@microsoft.com Hours: 9:00-6:00 PST From discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org Sat Mar 03 02:29:11 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNOeY-00008V-LY; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:27:38 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNOeX-0008Vv-IU for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:27:37 -0500 Received: from scmailgw2.scop.aoyama.ac.jp ([133.2.251.195]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNOeT-0008DB-OG for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:27:37 -0500 Received: from scmse1.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (scmse1 [133.2.253.16]) by scmailgw2.scop.aoyama.ac.jp (secret/secret) with SMTP id l237RUTX020986 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 16:27:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from (133.2.206.133) by scmse1.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp via smtp id 4337_a500a1a0_c958_11db_8419_0014221fa3c9; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:27:29 +0900 Received: from Tanzawa.it.aoyama.ac.jp ([133.2.210.1]:49251) by itmail.it.aoyama.ac.jp with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id for from ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 16:26:30 +0900 Message-Id: <6.0.0.20.2.20070303160436.07582120@localhost> X-Sender: duerst@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6J Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:06:44 +0900 To: Robert McMurray , "'discuss@apps.ietf.org'" From: Martin Duerst Subject: Re: FTP Extensions In-Reply-To: <2A0C5133697D74488F4BD107A2429C2A2DCDF1B13F@NA-EXMSG-C116.r edmond.corp.microsoft.com> References: <2A0C5133697D74488F4BD107A2429C2A2DCDF1B13F@NA-EXMSG-C116.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 Cc: X-BeenThere: discuss@apps.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: general discussion of application-layer protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org There is always the alternative to submit something as an individual draft (i.e. without a WG). That's often done for extensions in an area where a WG has concluded (often the mailing list of the old WG is used to get feedback). Of course, it all depends on how big, how controversial, and how interrelated with other things the extension is that you have in mind. Regards, Martin. At 02:32 07/03/03, Robert McMurray wrote: >Hello, > >I'm trying to find the correct working group to submit a proposed extension >to the File Transfer Protocol. At one time there was an FTP extensions >group, but that appears to have been concluded: > >http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/ftpext-charter.html > >With that in mind, which working group would you suggest to receive draft >submissions for the File Transfer Protocol? > >Thanks in advance for any assistance. > >Robert McMurray >US-IIS Product Unit >Phone: 425-707-1982 >Email: robmcm@microsoft.com >Hours: 9:00-6:00 PST #-#-# Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University #-#-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp From discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org Sun Mar 04 14:16:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNwAT-0007vK-QU; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:14:49 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNwAT-0007v7-0o for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:14:49 -0500 Received: from mtagate2.uk.ibm.com ([195.212.29.135]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNwAQ-0003ee-Hq for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:14:49 -0500 Received: from d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.185]) by mtagate2.uk.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l24JEjqt113034 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:14:45 GMT Received: from d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.37.228]) by d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v8.3) with ESMTP id l24JEimL962654 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:14:45 GMT Received: from d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l24JEikW017289 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:14:44 GMT Received: from sihl.zurich.ibm.com (sihl.zurich.ibm.com [9.4.16.232]) by d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l24JEij1017286; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:14:44 GMT Received: from [9.4.210.54] ([9.4.210.54]) by sihl.zurich.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA157928; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:14:41 +0100 Message-ID: <45EB1AA2.9080905@zurich.ibm.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:14:42 +0100 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: IBM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert McMurray Subject: Re: FTP Extensions References: <2A0C5133697D74488F4BD107A2429C2A2DCDF1B13F@NA-EXMSG-C116.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <6.0.0.20.2.20070303160436.07582120@localhost> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.20.2.20070303160436.07582120@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Cc: "'discuss@apps.ietf.org'" X-BeenThere: discuss@apps.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: general discussion of application-layer protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org I suggest writing to the Applications Area Directors. However, so that it doesn't get lost in the shuffle, do so after the upcoming IETF meeting, when they will be Chris Newman and Lisa Dusseault. draft-iesg-sponsoring-guidelines-01.txt may also be of interest. Brian On 2007-03-03 08:06, Martin Duerst wrote: > There is always the alternative to submit something as an > individual draft (i.e. without a WG). That's often done for > extensions in an area where a WG has concluded (often the > mailing list of the old WG is used to get feedback). > Of course, it all depends on how big, how controversial, > and how interrelated with other things the extension is > that you have in mind. > > Regards, Martin. > > At 02:32 07/03/03, Robert McMurray wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm trying to find the correct working group to submit a proposed extension >> to the File Transfer Protocol. At one time there was an FTP extensions >> group, but that appears to have been concluded: >> >> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/ftpext-charter.html >> >> With that in mind, which working group would you suggest to receive draft >> submissions for the File Transfer Protocol? >> >> Thanks in advance for any assistance. >> >> Robert McMurray >> US-IIS Product Unit >> Phone: 425-707-1982 >> Email: robmcm@microsoft.com >> Hours: 9:00-6:00 PST > > > #-#-# Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University > #-#-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp > > From discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org Fri Mar 16 08:30:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSBYB-0001RE-OF; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:28:51 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSBY9-0001R4-Ld for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:28:49 -0400 Received: from send01.jprs.co.jp ([202.11.17.113]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSBY6-0006iV-3u for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:28:49 -0400 Received: from send01.jprs.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by send01.jprs.co.jp (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.11) with SMTP id l2GCSTR9003004 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:28:30 +0900 (JST) Received: (from NOTE233 [172.18.4.45]) by send01.jprs.co.jp (SMSSMTP 4.0.4.64) with SMTP id M2007031621282831927 ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:28:28 +0900 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:28:25 +0900 From: Yoshiro YONEYA To: discuss@apps.ietf.org Subject: BoF Agenda? Message-Id: <20070316212825.f86a1cdb.yone@jprs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20070228125104.ab7c9ae3.yone@jprs.co.jp> References: <20070228125104.ab7c9ae3.yone@jprs.co.jp> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.7; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 X-BeenThere: discuss@apps.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: general discussion of application-layer protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org I'd like to know if agenda items are fixed... -- Yoshiro YONEYA On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:51:04 +0900 Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: > Hi, all. > > I wrote an I-D which discusses how IRIs should be recognized and how to > be handled. The background is that many of applications can recognize > URIs in unstructured text data, but IRIs are exception although use of > IDNs/IRIs is getting popular. > > If you have interested in, please take a look and give your comments. > Also, I'd like to have time slot at APPAREA BoF in Prague to explain > the I-D. > > Thanks, > > -- > Yoshiro YONEYA From discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org Fri Mar 16 13:52:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSGZT-00041g-TU; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:50:31 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSGZS-0003zQ-Jb for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:50:30 -0400 Received: from ithilien.qualcomm.com ([129.46.51.59]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSGZR-0007HI-8F for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:50:30 -0400 Received: from hamtaro.qualcomm.com (hamtaro.qualcomm.com [129.46.61.157]) by ithilien.qualcomm.com (8.13.6/8.12.5/1.0) with ESMTP id l2GHoQnj025287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:50:27 -0700 Received: from [71.204.158.100] (vpn-10-50-0-4.qualcomm.com [10.50.0.4]) by hamtaro.qualcomm.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/1.0) with ESMTP id l2GHoMir025474; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070316212825.f86a1cdb.yone@jprs.co.jp> References: <20070228125104.ab7c9ae3.yone@jprs.co.jp> <20070316212825.f86a1cdb.yone@jprs.co.jp> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:50:20 -0700 To: Yoshiro YONEYA , discuss@apps.ietf.org From: Ted Hardie Subject: Re: BoF Agenda? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d Cc: X-BeenThere: discuss@apps.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: general discussion of application-layer protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org At 9:28 PM +0900 3/16/07, Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: >I'd like to know if agenda items are fixed... Yoshiro Yoneya, The Area Meeting agenda, but there is a fair amount of time available (we normally have an "open mic" for discussion). At the beginning of the meeting, please suggest an amount of time you need for this discussion, and we can adjust the agenda by using part of the open mic time for this. regards, Ted Hardie >-- >Yoshiro YONEYA > >On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:51:04 +0900 Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: > > > Hi, all. > > > > I wrote an I-D which discusses how IRIs should be recognized and how to > > be handled. The background is that many of applications can recognize >> URIs in unstructured text data, but IRIs are exception although use of >> IDNs/IRIs is getting popular. >> >> If you have interested in, please take a look and give your comments. >> Also, I'd like to have time slot at APPAREA BoF in Prague to explain >> the I-D. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Yoshiro YONEYA From discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org Fri Mar 16 19:57:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSMGO-00006o-41; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:55:12 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSMGN-00006j-Fc for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:55:11 -0400 Received: from send01.jprs.co.jp ([202.11.17.113]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSMGK-0006KT-Ni for discuss@apps.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:55:11 -0400 Received: from send01.jprs.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by send01.jprs.co.jp (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.11) with SMTP id l2GMv3R9005205; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:57:03 +0900 (JST) Received: (from NOTE233 [202.11.16.62]) by send01.jprs.co.jp (SMSSMTP 4.0.4.64) with SMTP id M2007031707570232761 ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:57:02 +0900 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:56:58 +0900 From: Yoshiro YONEYA To: Ted Hardie Subject: Re: BoF Agenda? Message-Id: <20070317075658.e7c40f6a.yone@jprs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: References: <20070228125104.ab7c9ae3.yone@jprs.co.jp> <20070316212825.f86a1cdb.yone@jprs.co.jp> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.7; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4d87d2aa806f79fed918a62e834505ca Cc: discuss@apps.ietf.org X-BeenThere: discuss@apps.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: general discussion of application-layer protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: discuss-bounces@apps.ietf.org Dear Ted, Thank you, I'll do that. Regards, -- Yoshiro YONEYA On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:50:20 -0700 Ted Hardie wrote: > At 9:28 PM +0900 3/16/07, Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: > >I'd like to know if agenda items are fixed... > > Yoshiro Yoneya, > > The Area Meeting agenda, but there is a fair amount of > time available (we normally have an "open mic" for > discussion). At the beginning of the meeting, please suggest > an amount of time you need for this discussion, and > we can adjust the agenda by using part of the open mic > time for this. > regards, > Ted Hardie > > > > > > >-- > >Yoshiro YONEYA > > > >On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:51:04 +0900 Yoshiro YONEYA wrote: > > > > > Hi, all. > > > > > > I wrote an I-D which discusses how IRIs should be recognized and how to > > > be handled. The background is that many of applications can recognize > >> URIs in unstructured text data, but IRIs are exception although use of > >> IDNs/IRIs is getting popular. > >> > >> If you have interested in, please take a look and give your comments. > >> Also, I'd like to have time slot at APPAREA BoF in Prague to explain > >> the I-D. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -- > >> Yoshiro YONEYA > >