From disman-admin@ietf.org Wed Dec 3 17:47:23 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13360 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARfls-0008K9-Q4; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:47:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARfl6-0008Jf-PZ for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:46:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13323 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:45:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARfl3-0003Zx-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:46:09 -0500 Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.46]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARfl3-0003Zt-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:46:09 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-92-95.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.92.95] helo=oemcomputer) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ARfkr-0006Pw-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:45:57 -0800 Message-ID: <000401c3b9ef$8950c4c0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Disman \(E-mail\)" References: <3549C09B853DD5119B540002A52CDD340969BC00@zcard0ka.ca.nortel.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Disman] compilation errors in draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:48:14 -0800 Hi - Compiling the latest version of the alarm mib still results in error messages. A little investigation revealed that the "DEFVAL { { 0 0 } }" (occurs in four places) will need to be replaced with something like "DEFVAL { zeroDotZero }" along with an IMPORTS of that value from SNMPv2-SMI. (The prohibition is in RFC 2578 clause 7.9 fourth paragraph.) Randy From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 3 17:47:25 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13375 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARfm4-0008LK-1b for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:47:12 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB3MlCgR032066 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:47:12 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARfm3-0008L7-T5 for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:47:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13345 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARfm0-0003bo-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:47:09 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARfm0-0003bk-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:47:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARfls-0008K9-Q4; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:47:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARfl6-0008Jf-PZ for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:46:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13323 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:45:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARfl3-0003Zx-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:46:09 -0500 Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.46]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARfl3-0003Zt-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:46:09 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-92-95.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.92.95] helo=oemcomputer) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ARfkr-0006Pw-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:45:57 -0800 Message-ID: <000401c3b9ef$8950c4c0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Disman \(E-mail\)" References: <3549C09B853DD5119B540002A52CDD340969BC00@zcard0ka.ca.nortel.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Disman] compilation errors in draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:48:14 -0800 Hi - Compiling the latest version of the alarm mib still results in error messages. A little investigation revealed that the "DEFVAL { { 0 0 } }" (occurs in four places) will need to be replaced with something like "DEFVAL { zeroDotZero }" along with an IMPORTS of that value from SNMPv2-SMI. (The prohibition is in RFC 2578 clause 7.9 fourth paragraph.) Randy From disman-admin@ietf.org Wed Dec 3 20:52:24 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20713 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARiev-0006dh-Lb; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:52:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARieO-0006cI-3k for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:51:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20611 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARieL-0006JC-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:51:25 -0500 Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.222.163] helo=ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARieK-0006In-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:51:24 -0500 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hB41op019970 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:50:52 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:50:46 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155030C9061@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: Randy Presuhn , "Disman (E-mail)" Subject: RE: [Disman] compilation errors in draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16 .txt MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:50:40 +0100 If this is all for now, then I can issue IETF Last Call and we can process this as part of IETF Last Call input. Thanks, Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Presuhn [mailto:randy_presuhn@mindspring.com] > Sent: woensdag 3 december 2003 23:48 > To: Disman (E-mail) > Subject: [Disman] compilation errors in > draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt > > > Hi - > > Compiling the latest version of the alarm mib still results in error > messages. A little investigation revealed that the "DEFVAL { > { 0 0 } }" > (occurs in four places) will need to be replaced with something like > "DEFVAL { zeroDotZero }" along with an IMPORTS of that value from > SNMPv2-SMI. (The prohibition is in RFC 2578 clause 7.9 fourth > paragraph.) > > Randy > > > From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 3 20:52:26 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20728 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARif5-0006ek-Lv for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:52:12 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB41qBc5025580 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARif5-0006eV-He for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:52:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARif2-0006Ll-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:52:08 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARif2-0006Li-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:52:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARiev-0006dh-Lb; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:52:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ARieO-0006cI-3k for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:51:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20611 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARieL-0006JC-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:51:25 -0500 Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.222.163] helo=ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARieK-0006In-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:51:24 -0500 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail2.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hB41op019970 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:50:52 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:50:46 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155030C9061@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: Randy Presuhn , "Disman (E-mail)" Subject: RE: [Disman] compilation errors in draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16 .txt MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:50:40 +0100 If this is all for now, then I can issue IETF Last Call and we can process this as part of IETF Last Call input. Thanks, Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Presuhn [mailto:randy_presuhn@mindspring.com] > Sent: woensdag 3 december 2003 23:48 > To: Disman (E-mail) > Subject: [Disman] compilation errors in > draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt > > > Hi - > > Compiling the latest version of the alarm mib still results in error > messages. A little investigation revealed that the "DEFVAL { > { 0 0 } }" > (occurs in four places) will need to be replaced with something like > "DEFVAL { zeroDotZero }" along with an IMPORTS of that value from > SNMPv2-SMI. (The prohibition is in RFC 2578 clause 7.9 fourth > paragraph.) > > Randy > > > From disman-admin@ietf.org Mon Dec 8 16:01:22 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA02357 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:01:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ATSV4-00051E-RR; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:01:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ATSU5-0004zZ-Ot for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:00:01 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA02274 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ATSU4-0005Lv-00 for disman@ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:00:00 -0500 Received: from turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.126]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ATSU3-0005Lm-00 for disman@ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:59:59 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-85-57.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.85.57] helo=oemcomputer) by turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ATSTn-0006u3-00; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:59:43 -0800 Message-ID: <005a01c3bdce$8ce5f820$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Wijnen, Bert \(Bert\)" , "Disman \(E-mail\)" References: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155030C9061@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> Subject: Re: [Disman] compilation errors in draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:02:11 -0800 Hi - > From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" > To: "Randy Presuhn" ; "Disman (E-mail)" > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:50 PM > Subject: RE: [Disman] compilation errors in draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt > > If this is all for now, then I can issue IETF Last Call > and we can process this as part of IETF Last Call input. > > Thanks, > Bert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randy Presuhn [mailto:randy_presuhn@mindspring.com] > > Sent: woensdag 3 december 2003 23:48 > > To: Disman (E-mail) > > Subject: [Disman] compilation errors in > > draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt > > > > > > Hi - > > > > Compiling the latest version of the alarm mib still results in error > > messages. A little investigation revealed that the "DEFVAL { > > { 0 0 } }" > > (occurs in four places) will need to be replaced with something like > > "DEFVAL { zeroDotZero }" along with an IMPORTS of that value from > > SNMPv2-SMI. (The prohibition is in RFC 2578 clause 7.9 fourth > > paragraph.) > > > > Randy Some additional really minor nits jumped out at me when I skimmed it: - layout of definition of Alarm State ("-" is at wrong level of indentation) - need two spaces after "." at sentence ends - diagram on page 5 needs patching - two "+" characters in the notification management boxes are mis-aligned - Form feeds still not quite right - In section 3.5, I think that the last "MUST" is probably a typo, since the sentence doesn't specify anything normative. If it is trying to specify normative behavior, the sentence should be re- worded. - layout problems in the references section As WG chair, I'm willing to recommend that our area director take this internet draft to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard, trusting that the editors will fix these problems during "AUTH48" if IETF last call does not necessitate spinning a new draft. Randy Disman WG chair From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Dec 8 16:01:23 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA02372 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ATSVB-00052S-2f for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:01:09 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB8L180G019362 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:01:08 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ATSVA-00052D-KT for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:01:08 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA02306 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ATSV8-0005Mj-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:01:07 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ATSV8-0005Mf-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:01:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ATSV4-00051E-RR; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:01:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ATSU5-0004zZ-Ot for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:00:01 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA02274 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ATSU4-0005Lv-00 for disman@ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:00:00 -0500 Received: from turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.126]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ATSU3-0005Lm-00 for disman@ietf.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:59:59 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-85-57.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.85.57] helo=oemcomputer) by turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ATSTn-0006u3-00; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:59:43 -0800 Message-ID: <005a01c3bdce$8ce5f820$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Wijnen, Bert \(Bert\)" , "Disman \(E-mail\)" References: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B155030C9061@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> Subject: Re: [Disman] compilation errors in draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:02:11 -0800 Hi - > From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" > To: "Randy Presuhn" ; "Disman (E-mail)" > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:50 PM > Subject: RE: [Disman] compilation errors in draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt > > If this is all for now, then I can issue IETF Last Call > and we can process this as part of IETF Last Call input. > > Thanks, > Bert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randy Presuhn [mailto:randy_presuhn@mindspring.com] > > Sent: woensdag 3 december 2003 23:48 > > To: Disman (E-mail) > > Subject: [Disman] compilation errors in > > draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt > > > > > > Hi - > > > > Compiling the latest version of the alarm mib still results in error > > messages. A little investigation revealed that the "DEFVAL { > > { 0 0 } }" > > (occurs in four places) will need to be replaced with something like > > "DEFVAL { zeroDotZero }" along with an IMPORTS of that value from > > SNMPv2-SMI. (The prohibition is in RFC 2578 clause 7.9 fourth > > paragraph.) > > > > Randy Some additional really minor nits jumped out at me when I skimmed it: - layout of definition of Alarm State ("-" is at wrong level of indentation) - need two spaces after "." at sentence ends - diagram on page 5 needs patching - two "+" characters in the notification management boxes are mis-aligned - Form feeds still not quite right - In section 3.5, I think that the last "MUST" is probably a typo, since the sentence doesn't specify anything normative. If it is trying to specify normative behavior, the sentence should be re- worded. - layout problems in the references section As WG chair, I'm willing to recommend that our area director take this internet draft to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard, trusting that the editors will fix these problems during "AUTH48" if IETF last call does not necessitate spinning a new draft. Randy Disman WG chair From disman-admin@ietf.org Thu Dec 11 11:58:35 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA09620 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUU8W-0004pG-OD; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUU81-0004oy-QG for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:29 -0500 Received: from asgard.ietf.org (asgard.ietf.org [10.27.6.40]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA09596 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from apache by asgard.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AUU7k-0000mV-KZ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:12 -0500 X-test-idtracker: no To: IETF-Announce :; Cc: disman@ietf.org From: The IESG Reply-to: iesg@ietf.org Message-Id: Subject: [Disman] Last Call: 'Alarm MIB' to Proposed Standard Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:12 -0500 The IESG has received a request from the Distributed Management WG to consider the following document: - 'Alarm MIB ' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2003-12-25. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Dec 11 11:58:36 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA09635 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUU8f-0004q6-BY for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:09 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBBGw9Gi018596 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUU8f-0004pq-7q for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:09 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA09610 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AUU8d-0000jy-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:07 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AUU8d-0000ju-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:07 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUU8W-0004pG-OD; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:58:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUU81-0004oy-QG for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:29 -0500 Received: from asgard.ietf.org (asgard.ietf.org [10.27.6.40]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA09596 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from apache by asgard.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AUU7k-0000mV-KZ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:12 -0500 X-test-idtracker: no To: IETF-Announce :; Cc: disman@ietf.org From: The IESG Reply-to: iesg@ietf.org Message-Id: Subject: [Disman] Last Call: 'Alarm MIB' to Proposed Standard Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:12 -0500 The IESG has received a request from the Distributed Management WG to consider the following document: - 'Alarm MIB ' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2003-12-25. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt From disman-admin@ietf.org Sun Dec 14 00:17:36 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA22433 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AVOcm-0007Bq-DW; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AVOci-0007Bf-Oi for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:16:56 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA22419 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AVOcg-0005xQ-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:16:54 -0500 Received: from goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.18]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AVOcf-0005xN-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:16:54 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-153-133.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.153.133] helo=oemcomputer) by goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AVOcf-00066k-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:16:53 -0800 Message-ID: <008201c3c201$dba9ccc0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Disman \(E-mail\)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:19:32 -0800 Hi - Juergen is planning to spin another draft of the proposed updates to RFC 2925. If you have encountered any ambiguities or problems, especially in implementing or deploying this MIB, now is the time to post your issues to the disman WG mailing list. It looks like we'll be able to go for Draft Standard on this one, so now is the time to make sure that there aren't any lingering problems. Randy From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Dec 14 00:17:38 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA22448 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AVOcw-0007Ca-OF for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:10 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBE5HA5D027678 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:10 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AVOcw-0007CL-Id for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA22426 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AVOcu-0005xX-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:08 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AVOct-0005xT-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:07 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AVOcm-0007Bq-DW; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AVOci-0007Bf-Oi for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:16:56 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA22419 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AVOcg-0005xQ-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:16:54 -0500 Received: from goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.18]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AVOcf-0005xN-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:16:54 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-153-133.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.153.133] helo=oemcomputer) by goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AVOcf-00066k-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:16:53 -0800 Message-ID: <008201c3c201$dba9ccc0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Disman \(E-mail\)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:19:32 -0800 Hi - Juergen is planning to spin another draft of the proposed updates to RFC 2925. If you have encountered any ambiguities or problems, especially in implementing or deploying this MIB, now is the time to post your issues to the disman WG mailing list. It looks like we'll be able to go for Draft Standard on this one, so now is the time to make sure that there aren't any lingering problems. Randy From disman-admin@ietf.org Tue Dec 16 13:17:35 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26416 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWJkj-0006jJ-0o; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWHOz-0006v4-6y for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:46:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA19625 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHOw-0006C9-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:46:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHOv-0006C2-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:46:22 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=manatick) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHEq-0004Pg-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:35:56 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by manatick with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AWGn2-0001Ep-QR for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:07:12 -0500 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Dec 2003 07:09:59 +0000 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBGF6bZ0015162 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cisco.com (sjc-vpn1-495.cisco.com [10.21.97.239]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id APD92767; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:06:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDF1F7D.4070800@cisco.com> From: Subrahmanya Hegde Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: disman@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Disman] ALARM MIB feedbacks: minor Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:06:37 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I looked into http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt Noticed that DESCRIPTION for some of the tables/objects are not aligned. For example: alarmModelSpecificPointer OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX RowPointer MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "If no additional, model-specific Alarm MIB is supported by the system the value of this object is `0.0'and attempts to set it to any other value MUST be rejected appropriately. When a model-specific Alarm MIB is supported, this object MUST refer to the first accessible object in a corresponding row of the model definition in one of these model-specific MIBs and attempts to set this object to { 0 0 } or any other value MUST be rejected appropriately." DEFVAL { { 0 0 } } It will be good to fix this as : DESCRIPTION "If no additional.... Subra From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Dec 16 13:17:37 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26433 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWJkt-0006pC-5Q for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBGIHBlr026230 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWJkt-0006oz-17 for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26388 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWJkr-0004x5-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:09 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AWJkp-0004wu-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:08 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWJkp-0004wq-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:07 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWJkj-0006jJ-0o; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWHOz-0006v4-6y for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:46:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA19625 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHOw-0006C9-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:46:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHOv-0006C2-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:46:22 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=manatick) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWHEq-0004Pg-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:35:56 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by manatick with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AWGn2-0001Ep-QR for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:07:12 -0500 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Dec 2003 07:09:59 +0000 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBGF6bZ0015162 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cisco.com (sjc-vpn1-495.cisco.com [10.21.97.239]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id APD92767; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:06:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDF1F7D.4070800@cisco.com> From: Subrahmanya Hegde Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: disman@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Disman] ALARM MIB feedbacks: minor Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:06:37 -0800 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I looked into http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt Noticed that DESCRIPTION for some of the tables/objects are not aligned. For example: alarmModelSpecificPointer OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX RowPointer MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "If no additional, model-specific Alarm MIB is supported by the system the value of this object is `0.0'and attempts to set it to any other value MUST be rejected appropriately. When a model-specific Alarm MIB is supported, this object MUST refer to the first accessible object in a corresponding row of the model definition in one of these model-specific MIBs and attempts to set this object to { 0 0 } or any other value MUST be rejected appropriately." DEFVAL { { 0 0 } } It will be good to fix this as : DESCRIPTION "If no additional.... Subra From disman-admin@ietf.org Tue Dec 16 13:37:34 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26908 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWK46-0007L9-Q4; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWK3X-0007J6-IS for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:27 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26866 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK3V-0005OQ-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK3T-0005O4-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:24 -0500 Received: from mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.48]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK3T-0005NP-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:23 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-76-94.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.76.94] helo=oemcomputer) by mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AWK3O-0007G2-00; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:36:18 -0800 Message-ID: <002601c3c403$e1f3c0a0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: Cc: "Subrahmanya Hegde" References: <3FDF1F7D.4070800@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [Disman] ALARM MIB feedbacks: minor X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:23 -0800 Hi - Thanks for the comments. It's good to know that folks are looking at the document now in IETF last call. The editors will need to carefully check the formatting of MIB module DESCRIPTION clauses during the AUTH48 period. Bad things can happen to them during RFC editor processing, so the documents' editors need to check *very* carefully for problems like these, whether they were present in the internet draft or were introduced during the RFC editing process. However, if this were to be the most serious problem brought up during IETF last call, that would be a good problem to have, though it might cause me to worry whether the document had received sufficient review. Randy > From: "Subrahmanya Hegde" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:06 AM > Subject: [Disman] ALARM MIB feedbacks: minor > > Hi > I looked into > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt > > Noticed that DESCRIPTION for some of the tables/objects are not aligned. > > For example: > > > alarmModelSpecificPointer OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX RowPointer > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "If no additional, model-specific Alarm MIB is supported by the > system the value of this object is `0.0'and attempts > to set it to any other value MUST be rejected appropriately. > > When a model-specific Alarm MIB is supported, this object MUST > refer to the first accessible object in a corresponding > row of the model definition in one of these model-specific MIBs > and attempts to set this object to { 0 0 } or any other > value MUST be rejected appropriately." > DEFVAL { { 0 0 } } > > It will be good to fix this as : > DESCRIPTION > "If no additional.... > > Subra > > > > From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Dec 16 13:37:36 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26923 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWK4C-0007Nb-4q for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:08 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBGIb79e028353 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWK4B-0007NE-Hy for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:07 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26887 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK49-0005Qo-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:05 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK48-0005Qh-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:04 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK48-0005Qe-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWK46-0007L9-Q4; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:37:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AWK3X-0007J6-IS for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:27 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA26866 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK3V-0005OQ-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK3T-0005O4-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:24 -0500 Received: from mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.48]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AWK3T-0005NP-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:36:23 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-76-94.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.76.94] helo=oemcomputer) by mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AWK3O-0007G2-00; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:36:18 -0800 Message-ID: <002601c3c403$e1f3c0a0$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: Cc: "Subrahmanya Hegde" References: <3FDF1F7D.4070800@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [Disman] ALARM MIB feedbacks: minor X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:23 -0800 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi - Thanks for the comments. It's good to know that folks are looking at the document now in IETF last call. The editors will need to carefully check the formatting of MIB module DESCRIPTION clauses during the AUTH48 period. Bad things can happen to them during RFC editor processing, so the documents' editors need to check *very* carefully for problems like these, whether they were present in the internet draft or were introduced during the RFC editing process. However, if this were to be the most serious problem brought up during IETF last call, that would be a good problem to have, though it might cause me to worry whether the document had received sufficient review. Randy > From: "Subrahmanya Hegde" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:06 AM > Subject: [Disman] ALARM MIB feedbacks: minor > > Hi > I looked into > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-16.txt > > Noticed that DESCRIPTION for some of the tables/objects are not aligned. > > For example: > > > alarmModelSpecificPointer OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX RowPointer > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "If no additional, model-specific Alarm MIB is supported by the > system the value of this object is `0.0'and attempts > to set it to any other value MUST be rejected appropriately. > > When a model-specific Alarm MIB is supported, this object MUST > refer to the first accessible object in a corresponding > row of the model definition in one of these model-specific MIBs > and attempts to set this object to { 0 0 } or any other > value MUST be rejected appropriately." > DEFVAL { { 0 0 } } > > It will be good to fix this as : > DESCRIPTION > "If no additional.... > > Subra > > > > From disman-admin@ietf.org Sun Dec 28 11:10:32 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07558 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:10:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AadUQ-0005Q0-L2; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:10:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AadUE-0005PK-Td for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:09:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07551 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AadUC-0004S2-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:09:48 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AadSV-0004Ny-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:08:04 -0500 Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.100]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AadRX-0004HT-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:07:04 -0500 Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id hBSG6JK4009666 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id hBSG6HK4009641 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:06:18 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update Thread-Index: AcPCAZPLNTJBw8UKSDuUfjT6Bqsc3QLWshNg From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Randy Presuhn" , "Disman (E-mail)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:07:00 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Randy, There are three MIB modules defined in RFC 2925. Are all three = candidates for advancement to Draft? Are implementation reports = available?=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: disman-admin@ietf.org [mailto:disman-admin@ietf.org]On=20 > Behalf Of Randy Presuhn > Sent: 14 December, 2003 7:20 AM > To: Disman (E-mail) > Subject: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update >=20 >=20 > Hi - >=20 > Juergen is planning to spin another draft of the proposed=20 > updates to RFC 2925. > If you have encountered any ambiguities or problems,=20 > especially in implementing > or deploying this MIB, now is the time to post your issues to=20 > the disman WG > mailing list. It looks like we'll be able to go for Draft=20 > Standard on this one, > so now is the time to make sure that there aren't any=20 > lingering problems. >=20 > Randy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Dec 28 11:14:06 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07681 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AadXt-0005WD-PF for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:13:37 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBSGDbPq021209 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:13:37 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AadXt-0005W0-K8 for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:13:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07655 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AadXs-0004Za-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:13:36 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AadW3-0004Wp-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:11:44 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AadUR-0004Tm-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:10:03 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AadUQ-0005Q0-L2; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:10:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AadUE-0005PK-Td for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:09:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07551 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AadUC-0004S2-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:09:48 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AadSV-0004Ny-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:08:04 -0500 Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.100]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AadRX-0004HT-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:07:04 -0500 Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id hBSG6JK4009666 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id hBSG6HK4009641 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:06:18 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update Thread-Index: AcPCAZPLNTJBw8UKSDuUfjT6Bqsc3QLWshNg From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Randy Presuhn" , "Disman (E-mail)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:07:00 +0200 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Randy, There are three MIB modules defined in RFC 2925. Are all three = candidates for advancement to Draft? Are implementation reports = available?=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: disman-admin@ietf.org [mailto:disman-admin@ietf.org]On=20 > Behalf Of Randy Presuhn > Sent: 14 December, 2003 7:20 AM > To: Disman (E-mail) > Subject: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update >=20 >=20 > Hi - >=20 > Juergen is planning to spin another draft of the proposed=20 > updates to RFC 2925. > If you have encountered any ambiguities or problems,=20 > especially in implementing > or deploying this MIB, now is the time to post your issues to=20 > the disman WG > mailing list. It looks like we'll be able to go for Draft=20 > Standard on this one, > so now is the time to make sure that there aren't any=20 > lingering problems. >=20 > Randy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From disman-admin@ietf.org Sun Dec 28 17:34:34 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA22162 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AajU0-0000ti-OP; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:34:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AajTj-0000t5-2C for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:33:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA22153 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AajTg-0004Mw-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:33:40 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AajRt-0004LC-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:31:50 -0500 Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.121.226]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AajQw-0004I3-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:30:50 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-155-132.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.155.132] helo=oemcomputer) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AajQn-0002MU-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:30:41 -0800 Message-ID: <001a01c3cd92$b3502840$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Disman \(E-mail\)" References: Subject: Re: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:34:02 -0800 Hi - > From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" > To: "Randy Presuhn" ; "Disman (E-mail)" > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:07 AM > Subject: RE: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update ... > There are three MIB modules defined in RFC 2925. Are all three candidates for > advancement to Draft? Are implementation reports available? ... The status goes to the RFC, not the MIB module. If we were only able to get sufficient implementation reports for a subset, then I'd suggest splitting the document and advancing that parts that have been implemented. However, this is all hypothetical. Randy From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Dec 28 17:38:14 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA22252 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AajXe-0001Do-FN for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:37:46 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBSMbk5I004687 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:37:46 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AajXd-0001DT-Ug for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:37:45 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA22235 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AajXb-0004U4-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:37:43 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AajVo-0004Rh-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:35:53 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AajU5-0004OU-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:34:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AajU0-0000ti-OP; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:34:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AajTj-0000t5-2C for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:33:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA22153 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AajTg-0004Mw-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:33:40 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AajRt-0004LC-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:31:50 -0500 Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.121.226]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AajQw-0004I3-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:30:50 -0500 Received: from h-68-164-155-132.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.155.132] helo=oemcomputer) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AajQn-0002MU-00 for disman@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:30:41 -0800 Message-ID: <001a01c3cd92$b3502840$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Disman \(E-mail\)" References: Subject: Re: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:34:02 -0800 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi - > From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" > To: "Randy Presuhn" ; "Disman (E-mail)" > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:07 AM > Subject: RE: [Disman] Remote Operations (RFC 2925) update ... > There are three MIB modules defined in RFC 2925. Are all three candidates for > advancement to Draft? Are implementation reports available? ... The status goes to the RFC, not the MIB module. If we were only able to get sufficient implementation reports for a subset, then I'd suggest splitting the document and advancing that parts that have been implemented. However, this is all hypothetical. Randy From disman-admin@ietf.org Wed Dec 31 10:39:38 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA16080 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbiR3-0002n3-MJ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:39:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbiQo-0002mn-JP for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:38:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA16053 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiQm-00017S-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:38:44 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiOt-00014p-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:36:48 -0500 Received: from zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com ([47.129.242.57]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiNM-000104-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:35:12 -0500 Received: from zcard309.ca.nortel.com (zcard309.ca.nortel.com [47.129.242.69]) by zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hBVFYeS02765 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:34:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by zcard309.ca.nortel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:34:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3549C09B853DD5119B540002A52CDD3409AAC651@zcard0ka.ca.nortel.com> From: "Sharon Chisholm" To: disman@ietf.org Cc: "Dave Sidor" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [Disman] Liaison Update (Alarm MIB, SG 4) Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:34:41 -0500 Hi If you remember we sent back a liaison response to ITU-T study group 4 on the topic of the Alarm MIB. I wasn't in the session when it was discussed but I got the impression they were happy with the response. Here is the text from the meeting report: "TD40 (GEN): response to liaison on Alarm MIB This response to a previous liaison to IETF Disman working group indicates that IETF will be interested in cooperation with SG4, if the group is chartered with a version 2 of Alarm MIB. Q19/4 will liaise back if a version 2 is planned." Sharon Chisholm Portfolio Integration Nortel Networks Ottawa, Canada From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Dec 31 10:43:13 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA16166 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbiUg-0002vV-Et for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:42:46 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBVFgkbK011243 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:42:46 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbiUg-0002vG-BW for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:42:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA16139 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiUd-0001EC-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:42:44 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiSk-0001As-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:40:46 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiRB-000184-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:39:09 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbiR3-0002n3-MJ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:39:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AbiQo-0002mn-JP for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:38:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA16053 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiQm-00017S-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:38:44 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiOt-00014p-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:36:48 -0500 Received: from zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com ([47.129.242.57]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AbiNM-000104-00 for disman@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:35:12 -0500 Received: from zcard309.ca.nortel.com (zcard309.ca.nortel.com [47.129.242.69]) by zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id hBVFYeS02765 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:34:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by zcard309.ca.nortel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:34:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3549C09B853DD5119B540002A52CDD3409AAC651@zcard0ka.ca.nortel.com> From: "Sharon Chisholm" To: disman@ietf.org Cc: "Dave Sidor" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [Disman] Liaison Update (Alarm MIB, SG 4) Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:34:41 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi If you remember we sent back a liaison response to ITU-T study group 4 on the topic of the Alarm MIB. I wasn't in the session when it was discussed but I got the impression they were happy with the response. Here is the text from the meeting report: "TD40 (GEN): response to liaison on Alarm MIB This response to a previous liaison to IETF Disman working group indicates that IETF will be interested in cooperation with SG4, if the group is chartered with a version 2 of Alarm MIB. Q19/4 will liaise back if a version 2 is planned." Sharon Chisholm Portfolio Integration Nortel Networks Ottawa, Canada