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Passwords for disman-web-archive@ietf.org: List Password // URL ---- -------- disman@ietf.org carehu https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/options/disman/disman-web-archive%40ietf.org From disman-admin@ietf.org Fri May 21 22:40:12 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA21134 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BRMMi-0000KW-T9; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:36:00 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BRMKh-0008TH-0U for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:33:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20956 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BRMKd-000638-FY for disman@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:33:51 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BRMJm-0005xu-00 for disman@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:32:58 -0400 Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.121.226]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BRMJ8-0005sE-00; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:32:18 -0400 Received: from h-68-164-83-248.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.83.248] helo=oemcomputer) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BRMJ8-0005AB-00; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:32:18 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c43fa5$01670920$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Disman \(E-mail\)" Cc: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [Disman] Fw: Server Migration and Spam Intervention Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:32:19 -0700 Hi - The secretariat is updating the email / archive infrastructure. See below for details. If you run into difficulties, please let me know. Randy mailing list admin, disman & agentx ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The IETF Secretariat" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:52 PM > Subject: Server Migration and Spam Intervention > > On Monday May 24th at 9AM Eastern time, the Secretariat will be migrating > primary functions to a new server and activating new spam prevention measures. > On this new server you may notice the following upgrades. > > Mailman has been upgraded to 2.1.5 > Mhonarc has been upgraded to 2.6.10 > Apache has been upgraded to 2.0.46 > > Mail flagged as spam by SpamAssassin will NOT be delivered. > > All mail that is flagged as spam by SpamAssassin will be kept in a WEB accessible > file for 30 days. If you don't see that your message has made it to its desired > destination, be sure to check here http://www1.ietf.org/spam-archive > > In order to cut down on spam further, TMDA will be installed on the MX to form > a challenge/response mechanism for email addresses that have not been seen before. > Existing subscribers will be pre-authorized in TMDA, and do not need to do anything. > Read about TMDA here: http://tmda.net/. > > Two of the trouble ticket systems used by the Secretariat will be migrated to RT. > This new machine will have SpamAssasin tagging in effect > http://ticket.foretec.com/spam-archive, as well as STRICT sender verify operations. > If we can't send mail back to you, then use of the ticket system is mostly useless. > > --------------- > > What will you notice? > > The IP Address for www1.ietf.org will change. > The IP Address for datatracker will change. > The response messages from trouble ticket queues will change. > Hopefully spam will be significantly reduced. > You will notice these changes implemented in phases over that day. So don't expect > to see everything change all at once. > You will notice that mail gets slow. We are going to pause mail delivery as we redirect > things to reduce the chance something gets lost. > > ---------------- > > What you won't notice, but has changed behind the scenes: > > Re-engineered the scripts that handle message archiving. The directory structure and > location of the mail archives have moved. We will insert re-directs into the webserver > to make sure you end up in the right place, but there may be a few anomalies. > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archives/text > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archives/web > Will contain all of the publicly available archives. > > --------------- > > What should you do? > > Be sure to keep copies of your mail. Due to the urgency of these upgrades, and > the highly heterogeneous nature of this community not every use case could be tested > (or even known). There may be a rare circumstance where a message is lost, a message > is mistakenly treated as spam, or a request is dropped. If you submit something to > a ticket system, expect a receipt. If you don't get one, let us know. If one of your > messages disappears, e-mail us to let us know the details of the message > (who/when/from where/subject/destination). > > Keep copies of your messages. With new software, we might need you to resend that > message one more time. Keep a copy just in case. > > If you are a mailman admin, go through your mailman admin queue before 9AM Eastern time > and approve any held messages. We don't know if this will be migrated when we upgrade mailman. > You can either take your chance, or approve messages. > > Eventually, all of this will be documented. For right now, we am just trying to get it > to work :-) > > > The IETF Secretariat > > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri May 21 22:54:45 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (iesg.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA21674 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BRMT5-0001om-1L for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:42:35 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i4M2gZ0B006988 for disman-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:42:35 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BRMRm-0001bQ-0Q for disman-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA21211 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BRMRi-0006pk-Hj for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:41:10 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BRMQm-0006il-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:40:13 -0400 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BRMQJ-0006b0-00 for disman-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:39:43 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BRMMi-0000KW-T9; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:36:00 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BRMKh-0008TH-0U for disman@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:33:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20956 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BRMKd-000638-FY for disman@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:33:51 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BRMJm-0005xu-00 for disman@ietf.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:32:58 -0400 Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.121.226]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BRMJ8-0005sE-00; Fri, 21 May 2004 22:32:18 -0400 Received: from h-68-164-83-248.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.83.248] helo=oemcomputer) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BRMJ8-0005AB-00; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:32:18 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c43fa5$01670920$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Disman \(E-mail\)" Cc: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: [Disman] Fw: Server Migration and Spam Intervention Sender: disman-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Distributed Management List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:32:19 -0700 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi - The secretariat is updating the email / archive infrastructure. See below for details. If you run into difficulties, please let me know. Randy mailing list admin, disman & agentx ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The IETF Secretariat" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:52 PM > Subject: Server Migration and Spam Intervention > > On Monday May 24th at 9AM Eastern time, the Secretariat will be migrating > primary functions to a new server and activating new spam prevention measures. > On this new server you may notice the following upgrades. > > Mailman has been upgraded to 2.1.5 > Mhonarc has been upgraded to 2.6.10 > Apache has been upgraded to 2.0.46 > > Mail flagged as spam by SpamAssassin will NOT be delivered. > > All mail that is flagged as spam by SpamAssassin will be kept in a WEB accessible > file for 30 days. If you don't see that your message has made it to its desired > destination, be sure to check here http://www1.ietf.org/spam-archive > > In order to cut down on spam further, TMDA will be installed on the MX to form > a challenge/response mechanism for email addresses that have not been seen before. > Existing subscribers will be pre-authorized in TMDA, and do not need to do anything. > Read about TMDA here: http://tmda.net/. > > Two of the trouble ticket systems used by the Secretariat will be migrated to RT. > This new machine will have SpamAssasin tagging in effect > http://ticket.foretec.com/spam-archive, as well as STRICT sender verify operations. > If we can't send mail back to you, then use of the ticket system is mostly useless. > > --------------- > > What will you notice? > > The IP Address for www1.ietf.org will change. > The IP Address for datatracker will change. > The response messages from trouble ticket queues will change. > Hopefully spam will be significantly reduced. > You will notice these changes implemented in phases over that day. So don't expect > to see everything change all at once. > You will notice that mail gets slow. We are going to pause mail delivery as we redirect > things to reduce the chance something gets lost. > > ---------------- > > What you won't notice, but has changed behind the scenes: > > Re-engineered the scripts that handle message archiving. The directory structure and > location of the mail archives have moved. We will insert re-directs into the webserver > to make sure you end up in the right place, but there may be a few anomalies. > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archives/text > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archives/web > Will contain all of the publicly available archives. > > --------------- > > What should you do? > > Be sure to keep copies of your mail. Due to the urgency of these upgrades, and > the highly heterogeneous nature of this community not every use case could be tested > (or even known). There may be a rare circumstance where a message is lost, a message > is mistakenly treated as spam, or a request is dropped. If you submit something to > a ticket system, expect a receipt. If you don't get one, let us know. If one of your > messages disappears, e-mail us to let us know the details of the message > (who/when/from where/subject/destination). > > Keep copies of your messages. With new software, we might need you to resend that > message one more time. Keep a copy just in case. > > If you are a mailman admin, go through your mailman admin queue before 9AM Eastern time > and approve any held messages. We don't know if this will be migrated when we upgrade mailman. > You can either take your chance, or approve messages. > > Eventually, all of this will be documented. For right now, we am just trying to get it > to work :-) > > > The IETF Secretariat > > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce From disman-bounces@ietf.org Tue May 25 15:34:41 2004 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA12066 for ; Tue, 25 May 2004 15:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BShdN-0008Kb-7O; Tue, 25 May 2004 15:30:45 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BShYL-0006ON-Mm for disman@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 25 May 2004 15:25:33 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA11192 for ; Tue, 25 May 2004 15:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BShYK-0004ux-9k for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 25 May 2004 15:25:32 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1BShXL-0004oK-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 25 May 2004 15:24:31 -0400 Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.49]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1BShW9-0004fX-00 for disman@ietf.org; Tue, 25 May 2004 15:23:17 -0400 Received: from h-68-164-78-42.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.78.42] helo=oemcomputer) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BShW3-0005J4-00; Tue, 25 May 2004 12:23:11 -0700 Message-ID: <000e01c4428d$bdfe5440$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "Aiko Pras" References: <40B1C79E.3010508@cs.utwente.nl> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:23:17 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Cc: Aiko Pras , "Disman \(E-mail\)" , IM05 - TPC chairs Subject: [Disman] Re: IM'05 CfP X-BeenThere: disman@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Distributed Management List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: disman-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: disman-bounces@ietf.org Hi - This call for papers is highly relevant to the work of the disman working group, and I'm happy to forward it to the WG mailing list. Randy > From: "Aiko Pras" > To: > Cc: "IM05 - TPC chairs" ; "Aiko Pras" > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:59 AM > Subject: IM'05 CfP > > Dear Randy > > As you know the 9th IFIP/IEEE International Symposium on Integrated > Network Management (IM'05) takes place 15-19 May, 2005 in Nice, France. > In the past, IM symposia have always been a good place to present DISMAN > related research. It would therefore be good to inform DISMAN > researchers of IM'05. Since I don't want to SPAM the DISMAN mailinglist > with CfPs, I would like to ask you (as DISMAN WG chair) to forward this > email to the DISMAN group. > > The deadline to submit papers is August 23, 2004. Note that, besides > traditional research papers, it is also possible to submit application > papers and posters. > For more information, see the IM'05 website at http://www.ieee-im.org/ > > Bye > > Aiko >