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Hi All,
After discussion with Ram Kavasseri regarding
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I would like to propose myself for this esteemed position.

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Dear all,

Please find the list of changes between version -03 and version -04
listed at the end of this message.  We already discussed the changes
on this list and - so far - there are no further open issues left.

Thanks,

    Juergen
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NEC Europe Ltd.,       Network Laboratories        Fax: +49 6221 90511-55
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--On 09.08.2004 15:25 h -0400 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Distributed Management Working Group of the IETF.
>
> 	Title		: Definitions of Managed Objects for Remote Ping, Traceroute, and Lookup Operations
> 	Author(s)	: J. Quittek, K. White
> 	Filename	: draft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-04.txt
> 	Pages		: 89
> 	Date		: 2004-8-9


	
=======================================
changes from version -03 to version -04
=======================================



========================================================================
29. Bad numbering of objects in DISMAN-TRACEROUTE-MIB
========================================================================
Problem Description:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
OID { traceRouteGroups 6 } is assigned twice,
to traceRouteCtlRowStatusGroup and to traceRouteHistoryGroup
========================================================================
Suggested solution:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
replcace for traceRouteHistoryGroup OLD
   ::= { traceRouteGroups 6 }
with NEW
   ::= { traceRouteGroups 7 }
========================================================================
Status: solution committed
========================================================================


========================================================================
30. traceRouteMinimumCompliancy does not cover
    traceRouteCtlRowStatusGroup
========================================================================
Problem Description:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The traceRouteMinimumCompliancy statement does not cover the new
traceRouteCtlRowStatusGroup.
========================================================================
Suggested solution:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
add to traceRouteMinimumCompliancy:
            GROUP traceRouteCtlRowStatusGroup
            DESCRIPTION
                "A compliant implementation does not have to implement
                the traceRouteCtlRowStatusGroup."
========================================================================
Status: solution committed
========================================================================


========================================================================
31. Coverage of excessive lookup in security considerations
========================================================================
Problem Description:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Security considerations do not describe the threat of excessively
using the lookup service.

raised by Dan Romascanu
========================================================================
Suggested solution:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
In Section 5. Security Considerations replace OLD
   In general, both the ping and traceroute functions when used
   excessively are considered a form of system attack.  In the case of
   ping sending a system requests too often can negatively effect its
   performance or attempting to connect to what is supposed to be an
   unused port can be very unpredictable.  Excessive use of the
   traceroute capability can like ping negatively affect system
   performance.  In insecure environments it is RECOMMENDED that the
   MIBs defined within this memo not be supported.
with NEW
   In general, all three, the ping, traceroute and lookup functions,
   when used excessively are considered a form of system attack.  In the
   case of ping sending a system requests too often can negatively
   effect its performance or attempting to connect to what is supposed
   to be an unused port can be very unpredictable.  Excessive use of the
   traceroute capability can like ping negatively affect system
   performance.  The same applies to excessive use of the lookup
   service, particularly, if the lookup cannot be resolved locally.  In
   insecure environments it is RECOMMENDED that the MIBs defined within
   this memo not be supported.
========================================================================
Status: solution committed
========================================================================






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Hi Randy,

Sorry for the late reply.
Note that some URLs below might require a www.cisco.com login.

Implementation Survey for RFC 2981, Event MIB

_Module:_ DISMAN-EVENT-MIB

_Implementation Source:_ 
Cisco IOS
	Release 12.0(12)S was based on the draft-ietf-disman-event-mib-10.txt
	Release 12.2(4)T is compliant to RFC2981
	http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1834/products_feature_guide09186a00800801fd.html
	http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a00800c391a.html

_Management Application / Agent:_ Agent

<>_GROUPs:_
dismanEventResourceGroup (y/n): y
dismanEventTriggerGroup (y/n): y
dismanEventObjectsGroup (y/n): y
dismanEventEventGroup (y/n): y
dismanEventNotificationObjectGroup (y/n): y
dismanEventNotificationGroup (y/n): y

_OBJECTs:_
mteTriggerTargetTag (ro/rw): ro
mteEventSetTargetTag (ro/rw): ro
mteTriggerValueIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw
mteTriggerContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro
mteObjectsIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw
mteEventSetContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro

_Deployment / Operational Experience:_
We have a couple of working examples posted on www.cisco.com
- The example monitors the locIfInputQueueDrops MIB object for increases
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_white_paper09186a00801a5a68.shtml

- A combined exampled of the EVENT and EXPRESSION MIBs
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_configuration_example09186a008023267a.shtml

Some other working examples will be posted soon:
- Customized notification.
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifOperStatus snmp-variable of 
all the interfaces. When this value changes for one of the interfaces, 
then a snmp-trap will be sent that will contain some customized fields: 
ifIndex, ifDescr, ifType, sysLocation, sysName.
This example uses the existence + notification functionalities of the 
EVENT-MIB

- Writing the new configuration automatically to a tftp server.
A trigger will monitor the status of the ccmHistoryRunningLastChanged 
snmp-variable. When the value
changes (which means that the config was possibly changed), a copy of 
the current config will be sent to a server via tftp.
This example uses the existence + SNMPSet functionalities of the EVENT-MIB

- Backup interface
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifInOctets snmp-variable of a 
specific the interface. When the delta reaches a threshold, a secondary 
line will be brought up using ifOperStatus. When the delta goes below a 
threshold then the secondary line will be shut down.
This example uses the threshold + SNMPSet functionalities of the EVENT-MIB

_Comments:_
This MIB has been implemented for a couple of years already, but not widely used.
The first issue is that not many customers knew about it.
I presented a "Fault Management" update at 2 big events recently (total: 300 customers). After presenting the EVENT MIB, I asked a few questions. To be perfectly accurate, the questions were for both EVENT & EXPRESSION MIB, as those 2 MIBs go along together. The EXPRESSION MIB will triger another email later on; anyway the conclusions are useful for the EVENT MIB.
	1. Who knew about this MIBs before Networkers?
           Just one of two hands up
        2. Who consider those 2 MIBs useful in their environments?
           A majority of hands up
        3. Who will be playing with those 2 MIBs back home?
           I would say 1/3 of the audience.
The second issue is that this MIB is not easy to set up. For example, the indexing must be clearly explained with one example. So more examples should be posted to help the easier deployement.

Customizing the events in the network elements in time consuming. We don't want to loose the configuration in case of network element reload. The EVENT MIB persistence was introduced
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a0080087bdc.html

Regards, Benoit.



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Hi Randy,<br>
<br>
Sorry for the late reply.<br>
Note that some URLs below might require a <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cisco.com">www.cisco.com</a> login.<br>
<br>
<pre wrap="">Implementation Survey for RFC 2981, Event MIB

<u>Module:</u> DISMAN-EVENT-MIB

<u>Implementation Source:</u> 
Cisco IOS
	Release 12.0(12)S was based on the <span class="content">draft-ietf-disman-event-mib-10.txt
	Release 12.2(4)T is compliant to RFC2981
	<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1834/products_feature_guide09186a00800801fd.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1834/products_feature_guide09186a00800801fd.html</a>
</span><span class="content">	<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a00800c391a.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a00800c391a.html</a></span><span
 class="content"></span>
</pre>
<pre wrap=""><u>Management Application / Agent:</u> Agent
</pre>
<><u>GROUPs:</u><br>
dismanEventResourceGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventTriggerGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventObjectsGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventEventGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventNotificationObjectGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventNotificationGroup (y/n): y<br>
<br>
<u>OBJECTs:</u><br>
mteTriggerTargetTag (ro/rw): ro<br>
mteEventSetTargetTag (ro/rw): ro<br>
mteTriggerValueIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw<br>
mteTriggerContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro<br>
mteObjectsIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw<br>
mteEventSetContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro<br>
<br>
<u>Deployment / Operational Experience:</u><br>
We have a couple of working examples posted on <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cisco.com">www.cisco.com</a><br>
- <span class="content">The example monitors the locIfInputQueueDrops
MIB object for increases</span><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_white_paper09186a00801a5a68.shtml">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_white_paper09186a00801a5a68.shtml</a><br>
<br>
- A combined exampled of the EVENT and EXPRESSION MIBs<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_configuration_example09186a008023267a.shtml">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_configuration_example09186a008023267a.shtml</a><br>
<br>
Some other working examples will be posted soon:<br>
- Customized notification. <br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifOperStatus snmp-variable of
all the interfaces. When this value changes for one of the interfaces,
then a snmp-trap will be sent that will contain some customized fields:
ifIndex, ifDescr, ifType, sysLocation, sysName.<br>
This example uses the existence + notification functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB<br>
<br>
- Writing the new configuration automatically to a tftp server. <br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ccmHistoryRunningLastChanged
snmp-variable. When the value <br>
changes (which means that the config was possibly changed), a copy of
the current config will be sent to a server via tftp.<br>
This example uses the existence + SNMPSet functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB<br>
<br>
- Backup interface<br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifInOctets snmp-variable of a
specific the interface. When the delta reaches a threshold, a secondary
line will be brought up using ifOperStatus. When the delta goes below a
threshold then the secondary line will be shut down. <br>
This example uses the threshold + SNMPSet functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB</>
<pre wrap="">
<u>Comments:</u>
This MIB has been implemented for a couple of years already, but not widely used.
The first issue is that not many customers knew about it.
I presented a "Fault Management" update at 2 big events recently (total: 300 customers). After presenting the EVENT MIB, I asked a few questions. To be perfectly accurate, the questions were for both EVENT &amp; EXPRESSION MIB, as those 2 MIBs go along together. The EXPRESSION MIB will triger another email later on; anyway the conclusions are useful for the EVENT MIB.
	1. Who knew about this MIBs before Networkers?
           Just one of two hands up
        2. Who consider those 2 MIBs useful in their environments?
           A majority of hands up
        3. Who will be playing with those 2 MIBs back home?
           I would say 1/3 of the audience.
The second issue is that this MIB is not easy to set up. For example, the indexing must be clearly explained with one example. So more examples should be posted to help the easier deployement.

Customizing the events in the network elements in time consuming. We don't want to loose the configuration in case of network element reload. The EVENT MIB persistence was introduced
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a0080087bdc.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a0080087bdc.html</a>

Regards, Benoit.

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Dear all,

As you probably saw from my previous email, we have implemented the 
EVENT-MIB.
In order to advertise this MIB, I'm thinking to post some extra useful 
examples.
This MIB is very flexible, but finding the right examples is not that 
easy... I mean examples with a good business case.

Currently, our working examples are:

- Customized notification.
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifOperStatus snmp-variable of 
all the interfaces. When this value changes for one of the interfaces, 
then a snmp-trap will be sent that will contain some customized fields: 
ifIndex, ifDescr, ifType, sysLocation, sysName.
This example uses the existence + notification functionalities of the 
EVENT-MIB

- Writing the new configuration automatically to a tftp server.
A trigger will monitor the status of the ccmHistoryRunningLastChanged 
snmp-variable. When the value
changes (which means that the config was possibly changed), a copy of 
the current config will be sent to a server via tftp.
This example uses the existence + SNMPSet functionalities of the EVENT-MIB

- Backup interface
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifInOctets snmp-variable of a 
specific the interface. When the delta reaches a threshold, a secondary 
line will be brought up using ifOperStatus. When the delta goes below a 
threshold then the secondary line will be shut down.
This example uses the threshold + SNMPSet functionalities of the EVENT-MIB

I'm wondering if you have in mind other good examples.
I would be happy to test them and to post the serie of SNMPSet commands.

Please let me know.

Regards, Benoit.

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Dear all,<br>
<br>
As you probably saw from my previous email, we have implemented the
EVENT-MIB.<br>
In order to advertise this MIB, I'm thinking to post some extra useful
examples. <br>
This MIB is very flexible, but finding the right examples is not that
easy... I mean examples with a good business case.<br>
<br>
Currently, our working examples are:<br>
<br>
- Customized notification. <br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifOperStatus snmp-variable of
all the interfaces. When this value changes for one of the interfaces,
then a snmp-trap will be sent that will contain some customized fields:
ifIndex, ifDescr, ifType, sysLocation, sysName.<br>
This example uses the existence + notification functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB<br>
<br>
- Writing the new configuration automatically to a tftp server. <br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ccmHistoryRunningLastChanged
snmp-variable. When the value <br>
changes (which means that the config was possibly changed), a copy of
the current config will be sent to a server via tftp.<br>
This example uses the existence + SNMPSet functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB<br>
<br>
- Backup interface<br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifInOctets snmp-variable of a
specific the interface. When the delta reaches a threshold, a secondary
line will be brought up using ifOperStatus. When the delta goes below a
threshold then the secondary line will be shut down. <br>
This example uses the threshold + SNMPSet functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB<br>
<br>
I'm wondering if you have in mind other good examples. <br>
I would be happy to test them and to post the serie of SNMPSet commands.<br>
<br>
Please let me know.<br>
<br>
Regards, Benoit.<br>
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Benoit Claise wrote:

> Hi Randy,
>
> Sorry for the late reply.
> Note that some URLs below might require a www.cisco.com login.
>
>Implementation Survey for RFC 2981, Event MIB
>
>_Module:_ DISMAN-EVENT-MIB
>
>_Implementation Source:_ 
>Cisco IOS
>	Release 12.0(12)S was based on the draft-ietf-disman-event-mib-10.txt
>	Release 12.2(4)T is compliant to RFC2981
>	http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1834/products_feature_guide09186a00800801fd.html
>	http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a00800c391a.html
>  
>
>_Management Application / Agent:_ Agent
>  
>
> <>_GROUPs:_
> dismanEventResourceGroup (y/n): y
> dismanEventTriggerGroup (y/n): y
> dismanEventObjectsGroup (y/n): y
> dismanEventEventGroup (y/n): y
> dismanEventNotificationObjectGroup (y/n): y
> dismanEventNotificationGroup (y/n): y
>
> _OBJECTs:_
> mteTriggerTargetTag (ro/rw): ro
> mteEventSetTargetTag (ro/rw): ro
> mteTriggerValueIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw
> mteTriggerContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro
> mteObjectsIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw
> mteEventSetContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro

Actually, when I wrote ro, I wanted to say that remote monitoring and 
context wildcarding are not implemented.
So potentially, the right answer should: no

Regards, Benoit

>
> _Deployment / Operational Experience:_
> We have a couple of working examples posted on www.cisco.com
> - The example monitors the locIfInputQueueDrops MIB object for increases
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_white_paper09186a00801a5a68.shtml
>
> - A combined exampled of the EVENT and EXPRESSION MIBs
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_configuration_example09186a008023267a.shtml
>
> Some other working examples will be posted soon:
> - Customized notification.
> A trigger will monitor the status of the ifOperStatus snmp-variable of 
> all the interfaces. When this value changes for one of the interfaces, 
> then a snmp-trap will be sent that will contain some customized 
> fields: ifIndex, ifDescr, ifType, sysLocation, sysName.
> This example uses the existence + notification functionalities of the 
> EVENT-MIB
>
> - Writing the new configuration automatically to a tftp server.
> A trigger will monitor the status of the ccmHistoryRunningLastChanged 
> snmp-variable. When the value
> changes (which means that the config was possibly changed), a copy of 
> the current config will be sent to a server via tftp.
> This example uses the existence + SNMPSet functionalities of the EVENT-MIB
>
> - Backup interface
> A trigger will monitor the status of the ifInOctets snmp-variable of a 
> specific the interface. When the delta reaches a threshold, a 
> secondary line will be brought up using ifOperStatus. When the delta 
> goes below a threshold then the secondary line will be shut down.
> This example uses the threshold + SNMPSet functionalities of the 
> EVENT-MIB
>
>_Comments:_
>This MIB has been implemented for a couple of years already, but not widely used.
>The first issue is that not many customers knew about it.
>I presented a "Fault Management" update at 2 big events recently (total: 300 customers). After presenting the EVENT MIB, I asked a few questions. To be perfectly accurate, the questions were for both EVENT & EXPRESSION MIB, as those 2 MIBs go along together. The EXPRESSION MIB will triger another email later on; anyway the conclusions are useful for the EVENT MIB.
>	1. Who knew about this MIBs before Networkers?
>           Just one of two hands up
>        2. Who consider those 2 MIBs useful in their environments?
>           A majority of hands up
>        3. Who will be playing with those 2 MIBs back home?
>           I would say 1/3 of the audience.
>The second issue is that this MIB is not easy to set up. For example, the indexing must be clearly explained with one example. So more examples should be posted to help the easier deployement.
>
>Customizing the events in the network elements in time consuming. We don't want to loose the configuration in case of network element reload. The EVENT MIB persistence was introduced
>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a0080087bdc.html
>
>Regards, Benoit.
>
>  
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Hi Randy,<br>
  <br>
Sorry for the late reply.<br>
Note that some URLs below might require a <a
 class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cisco.com">www.cisco.com</a>
login.<br>
  <br>
  <pre wrap="">Implementation Survey for RFC 2981, Event MIB

<u>Module:</u> DISMAN-EVENT-MIB

<u>Implementation Source:</u> 
Cisco IOS
	Release 12.0(12)S was based on the <span class="content">draft-ietf-disman-event-mib-10.txt
	Release 12.2(4)T is compliant to RFC2981
	<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1834/products_feature_guide09186a00800801fd.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1834/products_feature_guide09186a00800801fd.html</a>
</span><span class="content">	<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a00800c391a.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a00800c391a.html</a></span><span
 class="content"></span>
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  <pre wrap=""><u>Management Application / Agent:</u> Agent
  </pre>
&lt;&gt;<u>GROUPs:</u><br>
dismanEventResourceGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventTriggerGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventObjectsGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventEventGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventNotificationObjectGroup (y/n): y<br>
dismanEventNotificationGroup (y/n): y<br>
  <br>
  <u>OBJECTs:</u><br>
mteTriggerTargetTag (ro/rw): ro<br>
mteEventSetTargetTag (ro/rw): ro<br>
mteTriggerValueIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw<br>
mteTriggerContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro<br>
mteObjectsIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw<br>
mteEventSetContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro<br>
</blockquote>
Actually, when I wrote ro, I wanted to say that remote monitoring and
context wildcarding are not implemented.<br>
So potentially, the right answer should: no<br>
<br>
Regards, Benoit<br>
<blockquote cite="mid4119F425.1010105@cisco.com" type="cite"><br>
  <u>Deployment / Operational Experience:</u><br>
We have a couple of working examples posted on <a
 class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cisco.com">www.cisco.com</a><br>
- <span class="content">The example monitors the locIfInputQueueDrops
MIB object for increases</span><br>
  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_white_paper09186a00801a5a68.shtml">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_white_paper09186a00801a5a68.shtml</a><br>
  <br>
- A combined exampled of the EVENT and EXPRESSION MIBs<br>
  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_configuration_example09186a008023267a.shtml">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_configuration_example09186a008023267a.shtml</a><br>
  <br>
Some other working examples will be posted soon:<br>
- Customized notification. <br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifOperStatus snmp-variable of
all the interfaces. When this value changes for one of the interfaces,
then a snmp-trap will be sent that will contain some customized fields:
ifIndex, ifDescr, ifType, sysLocation, sysName.<br>
This example uses the existence + notification functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB<br>
  <br>
- Writing the new configuration automatically to a tftp server. <br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ccmHistoryRunningLastChanged
snmp-variable. When the value <br>
changes (which means that the config was possibly changed), a copy of
the current config will be sent to a server via tftp.<br>
This example uses the existence + SNMPSet functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB<br>
  <br>
- Backup interface<br>
A trigger will monitor the status of the ifInOctets snmp-variable of a
specific the interface. When the delta reaches a threshold, a secondary
line will be brought up using ifOperStatus. When the delta goes below a
threshold then the secondary line will be shut down. <br>
This example uses the threshold + SNMPSet functionalities of the
EVENT-MIB
  <pre wrap=""><u>Comments:</u>
This MIB has been implemented for a couple of years already, but not widely used.
The first issue is that not many customers knew about it.
I presented a "Fault Management" update at 2 big events recently (total: 300 customers). After presenting the EVENT MIB, I asked a few questions. To be perfectly accurate, the questions were for both EVENT &amp; EXPRESSION MIB, as those 2 MIBs go along together. The EXPRESSION MIB will triger another email later on; anyway the conclusions are useful for the EVENT MIB.
	1. Who knew about this MIBs before Networkers?
           Just one of two hands up
        2. Who consider those 2 MIBs useful in their environments?
           A majority of hands up
        3. Who will be playing with those 2 MIBs back home?
           I would say 1/3 of the audience.
The second issue is that this MIB is not easy to set up. For example, the indexing must be clearly explained with one example. So more examples should be posted to help the easier deployement.

Customizing the events in the network elements in time consuming. We don't want to loose the configuration in case of network element reload. The EVENT MIB persistence was introduced
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a0080087bdc.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a0080087bdc.html</a>

Regards, Benoit.

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Hi -

Thanks for the implementation report and the clarification.

Randy

> From: "Benoit Claise" <bclaise@cisco.com>
> To: "Benoit Claise" <bclaise@cisco.com>
> Cc: "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>; "Disman (E-mail)" <disman@ietf.org>
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> Benoit Claise wrote:
>
> > Hi Randy,
> >
> > Sorry for the late reply.
> > Note that some URLs below might require a www.cisco.com login.
> >
> >Implementation Survey for RFC 2981, Event MIB
> >
> >_Module:_ DISMAN-EVENT-MIB
> >
> >_Implementation Source:_
> >Cisco IOS
> > Release 12.0(12)S was based on the draft-ietf-disman-event-mib-10.txt
> > Release 12.2(4)T is compliant to RFC2981
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1834/products_feature_guide09186a00800801fd.html
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a00800c391a.html
> >
> >
> >_Management Application / Agent:_ Agent
> >
> >
> > <>_GROUPs:_
> > dismanEventResourceGroup (y/n): y
> > dismanEventTriggerGroup (y/n): y
> > dismanEventObjectsGroup (y/n): y
> > dismanEventEventGroup (y/n): y
> > dismanEventNotificationObjectGroup (y/n): y
> > dismanEventNotificationGroup (y/n): y
> >
> > _OBJECTs:_
> > mteTriggerTargetTag (ro/rw): ro
> > mteEventSetTargetTag (ro/rw): ro
> > mteTriggerValueIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw
> > mteTriggerContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro
> > mteObjectsIDWildcard (ro/rw): rw
> > mteEventSetContextNameWildcard (ro/rw): ro
>
> Actually, when I wrote ro, I wanted to say that remote monitoring and
> context wildcarding are not implemented.
> So potentially, the right answer should: no
>
> Regards, Benoit
>
> >
> > _Deployment / Operational Experience:_
> > We have a couple of working examples posted on www.cisco.com
> > - The example monitors the locIfInputQueueDrops MIB object for increases
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_white_paper09186a00801a5a68.shtml
> >
> > - A combined exampled of the EVENT and EXPRESSION MIBs
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_configuration_example09186a008023267a.shtml
> >
> > Some other working examples will be posted soon:
> > - Customized notification.
> > A trigger will monitor the status of the ifOperStatus snmp-variable of
> > all the interfaces. When this value changes for one of the interfaces,
> > then a snmp-trap will be sent that will contain some customized
> > fields: ifIndex, ifDescr, ifType, sysLocation, sysName.
> > This example uses the existence + notification functionalities of the
> > EVENT-MIB
> >
> > - Writing the new configuration automatically to a tftp server.
> > A trigger will monitor the status of the ccmHistoryRunningLastChanged
> > snmp-variable. When the value
> > changes (which means that the config was possibly changed), a copy of
> > the current config will be sent to a server via tftp.
> > This example uses the existence + SNMPSet functionalities of the EVENT-MIB
> >
> > - Backup interface
> > A trigger will monitor the status of the ifInOctets snmp-variable of a
> > specific the interface. When the delta reaches a threshold, a
> > secondary line will be brought up using ifOperStatus. When the delta
> > goes below a threshold then the secondary line will be shut down.
> > This example uses the threshold + SNMPSet functionalities of the
> > EVENT-MIB
> >
> >_Comments:_
> >This MIB has been implemented for a couple of years already, but not widely used.
> >The first issue is that not many customers knew about it.
> >I presented a "Fault Management" update at 2 big events recently (total: 300 customers). After presenting the EVENT MIB, I asked
a few questions. To be perfectly accurate, the questions were for both EVENT & EXPRESSION MIB, as those 2 MIBs go along together.
The EXPRESSION MIB will triger another email later on; anyway the conclusions are useful for the EVENT MIB.
> > 1. Who knew about this MIBs before Networkers?
> >           Just one of two hands up
> >        2. Who consider those 2 MIBs useful in their environments?
> >           A majority of hands up
> >        3. Who will be playing with those 2 MIBs back home?
> >           I would say 1/3 of the audience.
> >The second issue is that this MIB is not easy to set up. For example, the indexing must be clearly explained with one example. So
more examples should be posted to help the easier deployement.
> >
> >Customizing the events in the network elements in time consuming. We don't want to loose the configuration in case of network
element reload. The EVENT MIB persistence was introduced
> >http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1839/products_feature_guide09186a0080087bdc.html
> >
> >Regards, Benoit.
> >
> >
> >
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I have a copy of draft-ietf-disman-event-mib-v2-01, which fixed some
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Is there a more recent ID?

Will these changes ever make it into an RFC?

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Chapman, Ken wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What is the status of DISMAN-EVENT-MIB?
>
> I have a copy of draft-ietf-disman-event-mib-v2-01, which fixed some 
> things. 
>
> Is there a more recent ID?
>
> Will these changes ever make it into an RFC?
>
> Are there any plans to progress this MIB to Draft Standard?
>
Ken,

will post the latest rev today.

Ram

>  
>
> Ken Chapman
>
> ThinkEngine Networks, Inc.
>
> 100 Nickerson Road
>
> Marlborough, MA 01752
>
> Phone: +1 508 597 0460
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