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All,

=20

After reading RFC 2564 some time ago I've been wondering what became of
this proposal? I haven't found an implementation, nor have I found an
RFC which obsoletes the Application-MIB.

=20

I've done some work that may become a base to build an open-source
implementation for this RFC (See the thread on net-snmp-users
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3D11179049).

=20

It seems unlikely that nobody has implemented this already, so perhaps
there is a newer, better replacement for monitoring application
throughput?

=20

Best Regards

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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Dave,

I have not followed this very closely of late, but last I knew some=20
vendors implemented a few objects here and there that look like they=20
could have come from this module.  This is very much like other MIB=20
Modules, the System Application and Host Resources Modules being two=20
good examples - though their implementation is broader.  If you have a=20=

reference implementation, that would be a good thing.  I would think=20
that people might want to use it with some open source servers.
/jon
On Apr 19, 2005, at 5:56 AM, Dave Anderson wrote:

> All,
>
> =A0
>
> After reading RFC 2564 some time ago I=92ve been wondering what became=20=

> of this proposal? I haven=92t found an implementation, nor have I =
found=20
> an RFC which obsoletes the Application-MIB.
>
> =A0
>
> I=92ve done some work that may become a base to build an open-source=20=

> implementation for this RFC (See the thread on net-snmp-users=20
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3D11179049).
>
> =A0
>
> It seems unlikely that nobody has implemented this already, so perhaps=20=

> there is a newer, better replacement for monitoring application=20
> throughput?
>
> =A0
>
> Best Regards
>
> =A0
>
> Dave
>
> --
>
> ammeon.com
>
> =A0
>
> =A0
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Dave,


I have not followed this very closely of late, but last I knew some
vendors implemented a few objects here and there that look like they
could have come from this module.  This is very much like other MIB
Modules, the System Application and Host Resources Modules being two
good examples - though their implementation is broader.  If you have a
reference implementation, that would be a good thing.  I would think
that people might want to use it with some open source servers.

/jon

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Hi,

I was curious if there are implementations of RFC-3877 out there particularly in management stations and applications. I am working on defining the MIBs for a device and am looking at using this MIB to represent alarm information. So was wondering if people know of NMS's that may be able to manage my device if I implement this.

Thanks
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hi
 
I know of two potential third party management applications implementations,
but I am not sure of their current status or if the vendors have made this
public so I don't want to name them explicitly. Also based on the private
email questions I get, a lot of people are considering implementations, but
I'm not sure if they are looking device side or management application.
 
Plus, of course the work within my own organization.
 
Sharon

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Hi,
 
I was curious if there are implementations of RFC-3877 out there
particularly in management stations and applications. I am working on
defining the MIBs for a device and am looking at using this MIB to represent
alarm information. So was wondering if people know of NMS's that may be able
to manage my device if I implement this.
 
Thanks
Carl
 





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Hi -

> From: "Sharon Chisholm" <schishol@nortel.com>
> To: <disman@ietf.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Disman] Alarm MIB implementations
...
> I know of two potential third party management applications implementations,
> but I am not sure of their current status or if the vendors have made this
> public so I don't want to name them explicitly. Also based on the private
> email questions I get, a lot of people are considering implementations, but
> I'm not sure if they are looking device side or management application.
>
> Plus, of course the work within my own organization.
...

Have any issues surfaced in the course of implementation where changes
or clarifications to the specification would be helpful?

Randy







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hi

Not really. We did observe that probable cause may make more sense
associated with the active alarm instance, but that was easily solvable via
an extension.

Sharon

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Hi -

> From: "Sharon Chisholm" <schishol@nortel.com>
> To: <disman@ietf.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Disman] Alarm MIB implementations
...
> I know of two potential third party management applications 
> implementations, but I am not sure of their current status or if the 
> vendors have made this public so I don't want to name them explicitly. 
> Also based on the private email questions I get, a lot of people are 
> considering implementations, but I'm not sure if they are looking 
> device side or management application.
>
> Plus, of course the work within my own organization.
...

Have any issues surfaced in the course of implementation where changes or
clarifications to the specification would be helpful?

Randy









