From nobody Wed Nov 1 02:18:00 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BF313F66D for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:17:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m41kupBLqxlM for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com (balrog.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:82:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36D3C13F66A for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2001:b98:204:102:fffa::14b4] (port=60778) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e9p9m-0000SP-Sv; Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:17:55 +0000 From: Sara Dickinson Message-Id: <92DED45D-F74C-49CA-895D-3F1D33FA4179@sinodun.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_40541CE6-C1CA-4DD2-98FD-F304B765DB2B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 09:17:46 +0000 In-Reply-To: Cc: Paul Hoffman , dns-privacy@ietf.org To: Stephen Farrell References: <878tfwey8w.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <73F186C6-1F35-40B0-8C36-D4F011D11344@sinodun.com> <871slkd66k.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <7709D3C3-D879-421B-B81A-7908F521B9D5@sinodun.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 3 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] review of draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles-11: we should revert DNSSEC validation requirement X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:18:00 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_40541CE6-C1CA-4DD2-98FD-F304B765DB2B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 31 Oct 2017, at 18:39, Stephen Farrell = wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hiya, >=20 > On 31/10/17 15:12, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> On 31 Oct 2017, at 8:06, Sara Dickinson wrote: >>=20 >>> So maybe =E2=80=9CA DNSSEC validating client SHOULD apply the same = validation >>> policy to the A/AAAA meta-query lookup as it does to other = queries.=E2=80=9D? >>=20 >> That could be misinterpreted to indicate that there has to be some >> positive validation policy. How about: >> A DNSSEC validating client SHOULD apply the same validation policy >> to the A/AAAA meta-query lookup as it does to other queries. >> A client that does not validate DNSSEC SHOULD apply any policy it >> has to the A/AAAA meta-query lookup. >=20 > So I think either of the above could be ok. >=20 > The main thing for me is that we do not insist that a server > has to get DNSSEC setup before they can do opportunistic DNS > security. I think the above is ok in that respect. >=20 > Just checking: I think that means that with the opportunistic > profile, only servers that have DNSSEC setup and where the > client validates and gets a badly signed response would be > affected, all other cases would still get DNS privacy of some > sort. If that's right, I can live with it. Correct. For opportunistic the use case where the client might get no = DNS service is where the client is - configured with ONLY an authentication domain name (no IP address) - DNSSEC validating and configured to reject BOGUS records (all others = accepted) - receives BOGUS answers for all configured name servers Sara. --Apple-Mail=_40541CE6-C1CA-4DD2-98FD-F304B765DB2B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJZ+ZE6AAoJEJrQ44WBAj4V+nUQAKuxhQYYzCSztaxBBXHGYMjN dg78nvaciEd3cg99kPYCGydN/KWDh4+4xdUAkGjFYXKFQQeadAP+MGeXhEKRZW03 fcfRESxXCRyDcysyn8Sl6tuM3b7x2YnlUWRhR9KR1shlPijXY2nDipTegSWOdAf6 CjB6MrBHJXtcpaPAsex0z2Wjc2Eua0on9fI1ywD6q5aDaWvmSSjDW8m1FbqwDdow 2XXVaaGldGN2y9VNKJ/k7p60RxiUz1t/OesLRRB8ob3X23hFByNVUTSKwCgmzntl RLT/uJw0gvm2CJoDj7WOrXA63o7E3iNh/U3sDUk619oYhYtgd+QPuuydRRrHIWLG ik2AL1TVX7/7eWiUrPM3mpY0f28PsoiMvuFbi1ptr1EFajEwe1alRuKK36me8Qzw pYbE/hGcuyZwKuhqhbKi628jQCwWC4gbISNUSguXCCUUhlVhWWpgASgQm2lYpdf/ GKrDDbOTq42ja9040NUn3mHaL9/HGWgg5if3yxqmdTaB5AfEmfQM2kAXScIvsuQX R1Ua+V9nsl0+jLHo0xkdP2at06yFYU/MmYAmZdpiX25P8WykNmYVcIs6m4w0vY9D GMxlgOcCjznk9oM770FX719EQ/IBsJxYw4vP/JTTzWlhq2AX8FKrbfweVGaMXcis nhj3UJ8G33nSxZDyR7Ly =yANP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_40541CE6-C1CA-4DD2-98FD-F304B765DB2B-- From nobody Wed Nov 1 02:23:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E13713F5CC for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:23:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U1Hbjo-npPIv for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com (balrog.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:82:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 052DE13F4FA for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2017 02:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2001:b98:204:102:fffa::14b4] (port=60786) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e9pEp-0001BI-N6; Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:23:07 +0000 From: Sara Dickinson Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6673C1ED-63EE-4332-A989-7CCBEAB87910"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 09:23:06 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87y3nsbqqz.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org To: Eric Rescorla References: <20171027125510.foq7xeiqft2vl7rx@nic.fr> <87y3nsbqqz.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 13 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Why is draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles still blocked? X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:23:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_6673C1ED-63EE-4332-A989-7CCBEAB87910 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On 30 Oct 2017, at 15:27, Daniel Kahn Gillmor = wrote: >=20 > On Fri 2017-10-27 15:55:10 +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >> The datatracker tells us that draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles >> has a DISCUSS "This needs to be updated to indicate that the client >> MUST NOT offer 7250 unless it has a preconfigured SPKI, otherwise >> you're going to have interop problems." >=20 > I agree that this DISCUSS should be cleared, since draft-10 and = draft-11 > both state: >=20 > A client MUST only indicate support for raw public keys if it has = an > SPKI pinset pre-configured (for interoperability reasons). Hi Ekr, Could you just confirm if version -11 addresses your DISCUSS? Sara. --Apple-Mail=_6673C1ED-63EE-4332-A989-7CCBEAB87910 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJZ+ZJ7AAoJEJrQ44WBAj4V3RgP/AplgfbFwi0ekTQvrouMI5N6 HP1wtNtj8OOEy+8zeL63m3+fDNfjStbW0DGhwsHT45vNC7Sm19Bg5SfiObdv3Vh7 2RXT9lxFq5fRFVd44JDrbklKsCRt1X23vHszxJHhNv/PFM8eBcVClDeCWUCqsSvC EZdRxGPBXP4KSDHGowD+EmqTLuhex7OkNIbtIiTgC1WHoplbe4bHiVkeByfCQCGN h2257Dpuze9VhKtQUt4ztH7b4Q25uFzJeJajtlE5vSgoUL7zu5EFG+DNCB8G14sB V8okR1+HXUvF9V0p6/obQiftCcC75R8439IMYIgx9qJNibqTeWbK16FlqDViw6ZN yWjg8COlmBfmAMJMT1f8nBXUkDYdj0oKSAJOp+BGcL1ZRdDz5HvRT3Ap80GTofpm FWgFQWgK/tn2Vg4Z4dA8mRkKOKh2M49d5kRtVdBZBLk63tpanNKKNjVLPOjD2/En 766EarD7QCgy6slU6riLJa4KVEe45tGvsMtlsw0Nz66vJbhIZjYXQ5LZy58tqLun D5qXCxBkPoui5IqjZP+BLAI4hVhL/GqnCdiO/+IZ3evPCzumpTvzsXIX9I8wSQrk n4n8TyKWquXccrkH3xXtWvpW9x0LdBsAug3OexdfOpZ8e/O3ubVH/LMehf8dgl7T 6xg15JZfTA+EISDbeJkN =OvQs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_6673C1ED-63EE-4332-A989-7CCBEAB87910-- From nobody Mon Nov 6 09:10:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1DA13FB6E for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2kNPwWQBwNxy for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com (balrog.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:82:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0984313FB55 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [2001:b98:204:102:fffa::14b4] (port=62038) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eBkub-0002ph-LO; Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:10:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Sara Dickinson In-Reply-To: <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990802EC@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 17:10:07 +0000 Cc: "dns-privacy@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990801B6@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <336f3434-e3e0-9ae3-ca67-b2611ae210bc@gmail.com> <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990802EC@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> To: Alexander Mayrhofer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 14 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF? X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:10:16 -0000 > On 23 Oct 2017, at 08:08, Alexander Mayrhofer = wrote: > Yeah, i didn't necessarily mean a "drinking" BoF, but since BoF in the = context of the IETF is more a formal event, i took "Bar BoF" as a = synonym as a meeting that's not on the IETF agenda. Once there's enough = interest, i'll look into securing a room (though, rooms are typically = only available during evenings, i guess) Hi there,=20 I=E2=80=99m not attending and realise this isn=E2=80=99t an official = meeting but would it be possible to set up something simple like a = Hangout so remote folks could at least listen in or chip in? I=E2=80=99d = certainly be interested.=20 An evening meeting (Singapore time) would mean Europe based people could = join remotely, lunchtime would suit US better so no way to keep everyone = happy=E2=80=A6. 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X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:28:53 -0000 --089e08213378a5fbe0055d53c9e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think we should sign up for one of the breakout rooms on an evening and use Hangout to bring in Sara and Europeans. We can't keep everyone happy but I think a lot of US folks are attending, and also we can write up some notes. How about the evening after the Plenary? On 6 November 2017 at 12:10, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > On 23 Oct 2017, at 08:08, Alexander Mayrhofer < > alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at> wrote: > > > Yeah, i didn't necessarily mean a "drinking" BoF, but since BoF in the > context of the IETF is more a formal event, i took "Bar BoF" as a synonym > as a meeting that's not on the IETF agenda. Once there's enough interest, > i'll look into securing a room (though, rooms are typically only availabl= e > during evenings, i guess) > > > Hi there, > > I=E2=80=99m not attending and realise this isn=E2=80=99t an official meet= ing but would it > be possible to set up something simple like a Hangout so remote folks cou= ld > at least listen in or chip in? I=E2=80=99d certainly be interested. > > An evening meeting (Singapore time) would mean Europe based people could > join remotely, lunchtime would suit US better so no way to keep everyone > happy=E2=80=A6. > > Sara. > _______________________________________________ > dns-privacy mailing list > dns-privacy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy > --089e08213378a5fbe0055d53c9e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think we should sign up for one of the breakout rooms= on an evening and use Hangout to bring in Sara and Europeans.=C2=A0
We can't keep everyone happy but I think a lot of US folks are a= ttending, and also we can write up some notes.

How abo= ut the evening after the Plenary?

On 6 November 2017 at 12:10, Sara Dickinson= <sara@sinodun.com> wrote:
=
> On 23 Oct 2017, at 08:08, Alexander Mayrhofer <alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at> wrote:

> Yeah, i didn't necessarily mean a "drinking" BoF, but si= nce BoF in the context of the IETF is more a formal event, i took "Bar= BoF" as a synonym as a meeting that's not on the IETF agenda. Onc= e there's enough interest, i'll look into securing a room (though, = rooms are typically only available during evenings, i guess)


Hi there,

I=E2=80=99m not attending and realise this isn=E2=80=99t an official meetin= g but would it be possible to set up something simple like a Hangout so rem= ote folks could at least listen in or chip in?=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d certainly = be interested.

An evening meeting (Singapore time) would mean Europe based people could jo= in remotely, lunchtime would suit US better so no way to keep everyone happ= y=E2=80=A6.

Sara.
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--089e08213378a5fbe0055d53c9e4-- From nobody Mon Nov 6 09:34:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB50B13FB51 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:34:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ebcsH9Z4OxmP for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.proper.com (Opus1.Proper.COM [207.182.41.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0B2113FAF7 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [169.254.83.43] (50-1-51-141.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.51.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.proper.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id vA6HX4G9082954 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Nov 2017 10:33:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.proper.com: Host 50-1-51-141.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.51.141] claimed to be [169.254.83.43] From: "Paul Hoffman" To: "Allison Mankin" Cc: "dns-privacy@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 09:34:29 -0800 Message-ID: <750C0279-63E8-4DED-8AEE-196290995507@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: References: <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990801B6@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <336f3434-e3e0-9ae3-ca67-b2611ae210bc@gmail.com> <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990802EC@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.7r5425) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF? X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:34:33 -0000 On 6 Nov 2017, at 9:28, Allison Mankin wrote: > I think we should sign up for one of the breakout rooms on an evening > and > use Hangout to bring in Sara and Europeans. > We can't keep everyone happy but I think a lot of US folks are > attending, > and also we can write up some notes. > > How about the evening after the Plenary? That's probably the best evening and I suspect we can find later-night food after the call. --Paul HOffman From nobody Mon Nov 6 23:24:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502A713FBFC for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 23:24:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yrzXwElo3rqS for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 23:24:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sbg.nic.at (mail.sbg.nic.at [83.136.33.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D310D13FBF9 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 23:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from nics-exch2.sbg.nic.at ([10.17.175.6]) by mail.sbg.nic.at with XWall v3.53 ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 08:24:08 +0100 Received: from NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at ([fe80::a5b2:6e42:e54d:9d57]) by NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at ([fe80::a5b2:6e42:e54d:9d57%12]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 08:24:07 +0100 From: Alexander Mayrhofer To: Allison Mankin , Sara Dickinson CC: "dns-privacy@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF? Thread-Index: AdNLxef89ZEJhpV1Q8mT+nlmvYbfwP//6M8A///a11CAFuP2gIAABTqA//8F8dA= Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 07:24:07 +0000 Message-ID: <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE0759909751C@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> References: <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990801B6@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <336f3434-e3e0-9ae3-ca67-b2611ae210bc@gmail.com> <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990802EC@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.10.0.163] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE0759909751CNICSEXCH2sbgnic_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-XWALL-BCKS: auto Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF? 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X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 08:15:03 -0000 --001a114249081e8dab055db0a2cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The side meeting rooms are completely marked off every evening. https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ doku.php?id=3D100sidemeetings https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ doku.php?id=3D100sidemeetings2 So I reserved the Code Lounge Wednesday at 20:00. We will have some code. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Alexander Mayrhofer < alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at> wrote: > Wed post-plenary sounds good to me as well! > > > > *Von:* Allison Mankin [mailto:allison.mankin@gmail.com] > *Gesendet:* Montag, 6. November 2017 18:29 > *An:* Sara Dickinson > *Cc:* Alexander Mayrhofer ; > dns-privacy@ietf.org > *Betreff:* Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF? > > > > I think we should sign up for one of the breakout rooms on an evening and > use Hangout to bring in Sara and Europeans. > > We can't keep everyone happy but I think a lot of US folks are attending, > and also we can write up some notes. > > > > How about the evening after the Plenary? > > > > On 6 November 2017 at 12:10, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > > On 23 Oct 2017, at 08:08, Alexander Mayrhofer < > alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at> wrote: > > > Yeah, i didn't necessarily mean a "drinking" BoF, but since BoF in the > context of the IETF is more a formal event, i took "Bar BoF" as a synonym > as a meeting that's not on the IETF agenda. Once there's enough interest, > i'll look into securing a room (though, rooms are typically only availabl= e > during evenings, i guess) > > > Hi there, > > I=E2=80=99m not attending and realise this isn=E2=80=99t an official meet= ing but would it > be possible to set up something simple like a Hangout so remote folks cou= ld > at least listen in or chip in? I=E2=80=99d certainly be interested. > > An evening meeting (Singapore time) would mean Europe based people could > join remotely, lunchtime would suit US better so no way to keep everyone > happy=E2=80=A6. > > Sara. > > _______________________________________________ > dns-privacy mailing list > dns-privacy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy > > > > _______________________________________________ > dns-privacy mailing list > dns-privacy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy > > --001a114249081e8dab055db0a2cd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The side meeting rooms are completely marked off every eve= ning.=C2=A0



So I reserved the Code= Lounge Wednesday at 20:00.=C2=A0 We will have some code.=C2=A0
<= br>

On= Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Alexander Mayrhofer <alexander.mayr= hofer@nic.at> wrote:

Wed post-plenary sounds good to me as= well!

=C2=A0

Von: Allison Mankin [mailto:allison.mankin@gmail= .com]
Gesendet: Montag, 6. November 2017 18:29
An: Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com>
Cc: Alexander Mayrhofer <alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at>; dns-privacy@ietf.org
Betreff: Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF?

=C2=A0

I think we should sign up for one of the breakout rooms on an evening = and use Hangout to bring in Sara and Europeans.=C2=A0

We can't keep everyone happy but I think a lot of US folks are att= ending, and also we can write up some notes.

=C2=A0

How about the evening after the Plenary?

=C2=A0

On 6 November 2017 at 12:10, Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com> = wrote:


> On 23 Oct 2017, at 08:08, Alexander Mayrhofer <alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at&= gt; wrote:

> Yeah, i didn't necessarily mean a "drinking" BoF, but si= nce BoF in the context of the IETF is more a formal event, i took "Bar= BoF" as a synonym as a meeting that's not on the IETF agenda. Onc= e there's enough interest, i'll look into securing a room (though, rooms are typically only available during evenings, i guess)


Hi there,

I=E2=80=99m not attending and realise this isn=E2=80=99t an official meetin= g but would it be possible to set up something simple like a Hangout so rem= ote folks could at least listen in or chip in?=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d certainly = be interested.

An evening meeting (Singapore time) would mean Europe based people could jo= in remotely, lunchtime would suit US better so no way to keep everyone happ= y=E2=80=A6.

Sara.

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X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:46:26 -0000 --94eb2c0dfd627a117e055dbccedc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great! I've got zoom on my computer ready to roll On 11 November 2017 at 16:14, tjw ietf wrote: > The side meeting rooms are completely marked off every evening. > > https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php? > id=3D100sidemeetings > > https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php? > id=3D100sidemeetings2 > > So I reserved the Code Lounge Wednesday at 20:00. We will have some code= . > > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Alexander Mayrhofer < > alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at> wrote: > >> Wed post-plenary sounds good to me as well! >> >> >> >> *Von:* Allison Mankin [mailto:allison.mankin@gmail.com] >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 6. November 2017 18:29 >> *An:* Sara Dickinson >> *Cc:* Alexander Mayrhofer ; >> dns-privacy@ietf.org >> *Betreff:* Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF? >> >> >> >> I think we should sign up for one of the breakout rooms on an evening an= d >> use Hangout to bring in Sara and Europeans. >> >> We can't keep everyone happy but I think a lot of US folks are attending= , >> and also we can write up some notes. >> >> >> >> How about the evening after the Plenary? >> >> >> >> On 6 November 2017 at 12:10, Sara Dickinson wrote: >> >> >> > On 23 Oct 2017, at 08:08, Alexander Mayrhofer < >> alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at> wrote: >> >> > Yeah, i didn't necessarily mean a "drinking" BoF, but since BoF in the >> context of the IETF is more a formal event, i took "Bar BoF" as a synony= m >> as a meeting that's not on the IETF agenda. Once there's enough interest= , >> i'll look into securing a room (though, rooms are typically only availab= le >> during evenings, i guess) >> >> >> Hi there, >> >> I=E2=80=99m not attending and realise this isn=E2=80=99t an official mee= ting but would it >> be possible to set up something simple like a Hangout so remote folks co= uld >> at least listen in or chip in? I=E2=80=99d certainly be interested. >> >> An evening meeting (Singapore time) would mean Europe based people could >> join remotely, lunchtime would suit US better so no way to keep everyone >> happy=E2=80=A6. >> >> Sara. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dns-privacy mailing list >> dns-privacy@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dns-privacy mailing list >> dns-privacy@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy >> >> > --94eb2c0dfd627a117e055dbccedc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great!=C2=A0 I've got zoom on my computer ready to = roll

On 11 November 2017 at 16:14, tjw ietf <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
The side meet= ing rooms are completely marked off every evening.=C2=A0

https://www.ietf.org/registratio= n/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php?id=3D100sidemeetings
https://www.ietf.org/regis= tration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php?id=3D100sidemeetings2

So I reserved the Code Lounge Wednesday at 20:00.= =C2=A0 We will have some code.=C2=A0


On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Alexander Mayrhofer <alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at> wrote:

Wed post-plenary sounds good to me as= well!

=C2=A0

Von: Allison Mankin [mailto:allison.mankin@gmail= .com]
Gesendet: Montag, 6. November 2017 18:29
An: Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com>
Cc: Alexander Mayrhofer <alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at>; dns-privacy@ietf.org Betreff: Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF?

=C2=A0

I think we should sign up for one of the breakout rooms on an evening = and use Hangout to bring in Sara and Europeans.=C2=A0

We can't keep everyone happy but I think a lot of US folks are att= ending, and also we can write up some notes.

=C2=A0

How about the evening after the Plenary?

=C2=A0

On 6 November 2017 at 12:10, Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com> = wrote:


> On 23 Oct 2017, at 08:08, Alexander Mayrhofer <alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at&= gt; wrote:

> Yeah, i didn't necessarily mean a "drinking" BoF, but si= nce BoF in the context of the IETF is more a formal event, i took "Bar= BoF" as a synonym as a meeting that's not on the IETF agenda. Onc= e there's enough interest, i'll look into securing a room (though, rooms are typically only available during evenings, i guess)


Hi there,

I=E2=80=99m not attending and realise this isn=E2=80=99t an official meetin= g but would it be possible to set up something simple like a Hangout so rem= ote folks could at least listen in or chip in?=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d certainly = be interested.

An evening meeting (Singapore time) would mean Europe based people could jo= in remotely, lunchtime would suit US better so no way to keep everyone happ= y=E2=80=A6.

Sara.=

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X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:57:49 -0000 Great!=20 Unfortunately I will be joining remotely and open to any discussion. Lookin= g forward to get in touch with you. Antoine=20 > On Nov 12, 2017, at 10:00 PM, "dns-privacy-request@ietf.org" wrote: >=20 > Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF? From nobody Sun Nov 12 17:57:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietf.org Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DC71273B1; Sun, 12 Nov 2017 17:57:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.65.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: tjw.ietf@gmail.com, The IESG , Tim Wicinski , dprive-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, dns-privacy@ietf.org, terry.manderson@icann.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <151053823739.21434.8385547254498313937.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 17:57:17 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [dns-privacy] Protocol Action: 'Usage and (D)TLS Profiles for DNS-over-(D)TLS' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles-11.txt) X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:57:17 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Usage and (D)TLS Profiles for DNS-over-(D)TLS' (draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles-11.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the DNS PRIVate Exchange Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Suresh Krishnan and Terry Manderson. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles/ Technical Summary This document discusses Usage Profiles, based on one or more authentication mechanisms, which can be used for DNS over Transport Layer Security (TLS) or Datagram TLS (DTLS). This document also specifies new authentication mechanisms - it describes several ways a DNS client can use an authentication domain name to authenticate a DNS server. Additionally, it defines (D)TLS profiles for DNS clients and servers implementing DNS-over-(D)TLS. Working Group Summary The working group spent much time working through all the different authentication mechanisms, primarily making sure that the DNS-over-TLS and DNS-over-DTLS profiles were accurate, which were held up waiting for the DNS-over-DTLS draft to be moved forward. Document Quality Document is of good quality. It has been through both normative review as well as editorial review and the shepherd feels it is worthy of publishing. Personnel Document Shepherd: Tim Wicinski Area Director: Terry Manderson From nobody Mon Nov 13 01:17:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6812D127873 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:17:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=andreasschulze.de Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RkosxepHeMyJ for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.somaf.de (mail.somaf.de [IPv6:2001:470:77b3:100::7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B61E120713 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 01:17:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:16:56 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=andreasschulze.de; s=ybz; t=1510564618; x=1515564618; bh=YfucgPm3gAXqOLJHqGWFZyoc6t6KcnrdDH1Quj02pMM=; h=Date:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:from:reply-to:subject:date:to:cc:content-type: message-id; b=hKqIdskjrcNqjaSitr+IddSFMYV4KBVe98bw2WlLB434irAQ/k81f2BAsXVRk0jYZ e7wCRQP5ivH58aI+j8h8I0SpLwiH1Nh7q5w9sqILeudG98+l5lKS7ADP1ObKwOoBQP O7WI/I4dyZ59fjusP8k11mQmjttRBGSaqfXTeGHPm2uUg7V9xxVOYTwqxaGsROZ9tO LIK85ki9ZSA69NV+rl4/9HXuYlZC14wpJ5vK7P5a/CWxXxEGVYwbiczDYvErSBYtCr N/aybc7J5qnWtwN0ujEoZXuzgVM+2GKW2N0Jq/C5UVS2l7EGmPG5YMrzBwvMTWQVTK MzqGKcqBZLT6A== Message-ID: <20171113101656.Horde.S38wthKZ1RTN9tJvXjxUCFj@andreasschulze.de> From: "A. Schulze" To: dns-privacy@ietf.org References: <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990801B6@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <336f3434-e3e0-9ae3-ca67-b2611ae210bc@gmail.com> <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE075990802EC@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> <19F54F2956911544A32543B8A9BDE0759909751C@NICS-EXCH2.sbg.nic.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] dprive (bar) BoF? X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 09:17:06 -0000 tjw ietf: > So I reserved the Code Lounge Wednesday at 20:00. We will have some code. how is remote participation possible? Andreas From nobody Tue Nov 14 03:04:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95F41200FC for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:04:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VLo8y_mHPzjo for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com (balrog.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:82:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 532461241F5 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [5.40.111.162] (port=63409 helo=[192.168.171.12]) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eEZ0y-0006OZ-P4 for dns-privacy@ietf.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:04:24 +0000 From: Sara Dickinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:04:19 +0100 References: <878tfwey8w.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <73F186C6-1F35-40B0-8C36-D4F011D11344@sinodun.com> <871slkd66k.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <7709D3C3-D879-421B-B81A-7908F521B9D5@sinodun.com> To: dns-privacy@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 4 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] review of draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles-11: we should revert DNSSEC validation requirement X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:04:29 -0000 Hi All,=20 This draft is now ready to progress once a -12 version is available. I = just want to circle back round to summarise the fact that the only = proposed difference that will be in the -12 version compared to -11 is = the following (in section 7.2. Direct configuration of ADN only):=20 Current text: =E2=80=9CIt can then use Opportunistic DNS connections to an untrusted = recursive DNS resolver to establish the IP address of the intended privacy- enabling DNS resolver by doing a lookup of A/AAAA records. Such records SHOULD be DNSSEC validated when using a Strict Usage profile and MUST be validated when using Opportunistic Privacy." New text: =E2=80=9CIt can then use Opportunistic DNS connections to an untrusted = recursive DNS resolver to establish the IP address of the intended privacy- enabling DNS resolver by doing a lookup of A/AAAA records. A=20 DNSSEC validating client SHOULD apply the same validation policy to the A/AAAA meta-query lookups as it does to other queries. A client that does not validate DNSSEC SHOULD apply the same policy = (if any) to the A/AAAA meta-query lookups as it does to other queries." I hope I captured the consensus correctly? Please let me know as I = intend to put out the -12 (final) version next Monday (20th).=20 Sara.=20 > On 31 Oct 2017, at 16:12, Paul Hoffman wrote: >=20 > On 31 Oct 2017, at 8:06, Sara Dickinson wrote: >=20 >> So maybe =E2=80=9CA DNSSEC validating client SHOULD apply the same = validation policy to the A/AAAA meta-query lookup as it does to other = queries.=E2=80=9D? >=20 > That could be misinterpreted to indicate that there has to be some = positive validation policy. How about: > A DNSSEC validating client SHOULD apply the same validation policy > to the A/AAAA meta-query lookup as it does to other queries. > A client that does not validate DNSSEC SHOULD apply any policy it > has to the A/AAAA meta-query lookup. > --Paul Hoffman From nobody Tue Nov 14 22:06:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715FC1243F6 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:06:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ga0eXY_XJGWX for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wr0-x232.google.com (mail-wr0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 415EF1294FF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr0-x232.google.com with SMTP id k61so19477230wrc.4 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:06:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Js0po5deLBPk6LB5m8KimE39imc/l2pojKah+ZL3qIw=; b=PDMbLfK0YIFqWi/sJjXd81eAoOBFldUUwzgbiEcudpqfGvIkMk+XgGlxRGpix4F/1f rHkAnuDqyE8EUEhQ9fwBHTfQ0IwSGNNIQuN4UQtzdErf4nwP9nwKOg//B6gItvq3BliT Q8yUIz/Gfa0hR/Cup2GZSl7wJa2DooghPydxZBJQx4AwG2/x8p/Z7v/MCBSklEYNwLlm guz7AumkpzSgpseY3Ed7wySaobV4GxenCNrWdbphhcpe1Av7GbCWuKaeF4HjVqfs2GLK rc4CuOdHWEZGa1wHrmdqrGixS0NAG4Y8m2biZmx3NtmSU8Weyi5UrEfVv5805Bvt3OkH z72A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Js0po5deLBPk6LB5m8KimE39imc/l2pojKah+ZL3qIw=; b=OheB8exclY9eeVVIDBKhNCs5Szuwf6JQtxiW3HB3e451mx2cqKAFgNvDnjLRXmP/hm EFMUHs4gFDkWhE80TYv/8s8GqxVFsNry0iTETCDzqDVc+xJLNUVnrY2p0YLZ7V3XGayF crtuhNLniu2nvVNyF7T0YWzDymDZrGVSbzVnupNOkGCvMvtVOBzkddoLbHjCtHu8SSkb Tbe2vrqWSjMbvTDk1yTVkHmDhfHEcDbiAWdbAUNC753zHLCzjLBlvAD0QohwcqxqUUlu 7IDgtSbstRqgZ7UW+kQdo40bPBmCUM9K5MZ7jTe0ZJyGWv0arsZsa6l8FRYSyHADXREJ qHKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4BMXP3UzDQqFV9t6DIZJOk26sv8CDHCOOU2CiYD9s2BrCZjoAG 5oXbI1a7wPBFCJcxRX3LTRVfF+oZjuomtR0je/E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbtv/orgxcewyAAYBqgPyjif4naLhH3gJPi5cRKG++vM4r6CSZtiPw5BZyM2xSYuy+2isEKdMvQwSSoDouFaKw= X-Received: by 10.223.164.22 with SMTP id d22mr13345470wra.232.1510725968682; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:06:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.146.229 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:06:08 -0800 (PST) From: tjw ietf Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:06:08 +0800 Message-ID: To: "dns-privacy@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045f1fa0b761f7055dff4c7a" Archived-At: Subject: [dns-privacy] Reminder: Side meeting Tonight @ 8pm (Post-Plenary) X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:06:15 -0000 --f403045f1fa0b761f7055dff4c7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Reminder for a short DPRIVE meeting tonight at 8:00 PM Singapore Time. We'll be meeting where the Hackathon was held, aka the Code Lounge. (Room name is Moor/Morrison). It will be approximately 1 Hour Short agenda: - Erik and Ben will discuss their success in rolling out DNS over TLS on the Android platform - Sara will do some show and tell around Stubby resolver - Alex wanted to talk about padding (if I remember correctly) Currently working on the WebEx info thanks tim --f403045f1fa0b761f7055dff4c7a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi

Reminder for a short = DPRIVE meeting tonight at 8:00 PM Singapore Time.=C2=A0
We'll= be meeting where the Hackathon was held, aka the Code Lounge.
(R= oom name is Moor/Morrison).=C2=A0 It will be approximately 1 Hour

Short agenda:=C2=A0
- Erik and Ben will discuss t= heir success in rolling out DNS over TLS on the Android platform
=
- Sara will do some show and tell around Stubby resolver

- Alex wanted to talk about padding (if I remember co= rrectly)

Currently working on the WebEx info=C2=A0=

thanks
tim

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On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:06 PM, tjw ietf <= span dir=3D"ltr"><tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

Reminder for a shor= t DPRIVE meeting tonight at 8:00 PM Singapore Time.=C2=A0
We'= ll be meeting where the Hackathon was held, aka the Code Lounge.
= (Room name is Moor/Morrison).=C2=A0 It will be approximately 1 Hour

Short agenda:=C2=A0
- Erik and Ben will discuss= their success in rolling out DNS over TLS on the Android platform

- Sara will do some show and tell around Stubby resolver

- Alex wanted to talk about padding (if I remember = correctly)

Currently working on the WebEx info=C2= =A0

thanks
tim


--f403045f4f4ac760ac055dff6c65-- From nobody Wed Nov 15 07:07:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC2A12949B; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YgfLO2_7n9hs; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lf0-x244.google.com (mail-lf0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3756412944E; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf0-x244.google.com with SMTP id f125so26575282lff.4; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mFMhGvg+P4rMIkNFdIjnPG8CZtJMVFqvC/DQJXwynTc=; b=f5Q5wKbwX+LFInwkBrjdG70fMqgeQuttYrPTkHJ2EwU4DpY8lzqONP6vTgctXSpOln IpTUDxB41ici1nmIl9d6FDfbWuSZzNoFC9HhQxh/226+USjeazLQmOn4zJdhShg1mK9o W/maIJ0xTE2iHtokzMOgZooGBOMaQ+4cuVCISXXiCC/tScx+AYbygu2jutiwg/uVNNA5 wwoLTUzn48zRHgvEkpfD5LOPa8LgUtD4l19ZDVxoRG0bcdQV/xIGs6E4feGE32UjLDrR cQNznRfW8wfCVApRXGH0irlzi0BAjNJnaUqnmKwuVlyGS5AYuuLpaNNRq1zGY2lVKNq7 3TVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mFMhGvg+P4rMIkNFdIjnPG8CZtJMVFqvC/DQJXwynTc=; b=tAad0dj5U8++BW7NyntBeuH/P1Ljmmz9HWpUd18LgnY5ydw55GHj0LE/dNFhnaGO1V DNdLJIwZKO3ieZjhZOlxx2tjSzYmJFM0wVfEGiKu+hI4nQ2ielLxV7RkJXEN68yCz3xZ 7VK/qgpRxPeule8Qf+oI8PODejbeY6SIVYjpP7+dRXfjGOM6lIuzqRmBBtT6Cfb8CcMu AkoE3alm5RGJ0g2XnU1h6xBYEn7alwT6AC2sWyuSwTN+ILkuofcM2x/ebEik/rnbTHa4 /qccgkKUj3aWE4Alpsm1wyYhT4+udOpQJdX2WWeUOnWrq8WuetCxjMQJymaB7g2DBFWW 6PcA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6DlbeG8sLguj6Vq4fXXwLNyayJ69pIMWNFiN6VSammkMl/jE/z Fe17sWSo+AKpgPL9RucZpw/EjYa8D2CLnUWvmBiX1ETZ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbCfpHbcf8tx6M5opI8O0+9nvBgxcbmvfjudElAjygenCszhy7mj/cA1JdnS/o2ggp+g8a0A9e2ZLh4gouvnRI= X-Received: by 10.46.16.76 with SMTP id j73mr6560370lje.170.1510758423997; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:07:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.150.200 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:07:03 -0800 (PST) From: manu tman Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:07:03 +0800 Message-ID: To: dns-privacy@ietf.org, doh@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c1a647e3433ba055e06db37" Archived-At: Subject: [dns-privacy] DOH proxy X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:07:12 -0000 --94eb2c1a647e3433ba055e06db37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, As mentioned during the DPRIVE BOF, during IETF 100 hackathon, I hacked a proof of concept DNS-over-HTTPS proxy. At the end of the hackathon, it was using HTTP1 and only had a test client. I got a stub resolver working today as well as using HTTP2. The code can be found at https://github.com/chantra/doh-proxy The README has example usage. For the stub and client, there is a hidden `--insecure` option that will allow to run the stub against a server with a self-signed cert. Keep in mind that this is only a POC, so don't expect all the goodness of HTTP2, TFO, 0-RTT, pipelining, connection pool... to be leveraged. Manu --94eb2c1a647e3433ba055e06db37 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

As mentioned during the DPRIVE BOF,= during IETF 100 hackathon, I hacked a proof of concept DNS-over-HTTPS prox= y.

At the end of the hackathon, it was using HTTP1= and only had a test client.

I got a stub resolver= working today as well as using HTTP2.

The code ca= n be found at=C2=A0https:/= /github.com/chantra/doh-proxy=C2=A0

The README= has example usage. For the stub and client, there is a hidden `--insecure`= option that will allow to run the stub against a server with a self-signed= cert.

Keep in mind that this is only a POC, so do= n't expect all the goodness of HTTP2, TFO, 0-RTT, pipelining, connectio= n pool... to be leveraged.

Manu
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I've received comments from Sara (see above in this thread, much appreciated!), plus a few small comments during yesterday's meeting. If you have any additional comments, please speak up now (rather than during the WGLC) so that i include your feedback in the next revision. Thanks! best, Alex On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > On 28 Sep 2017, at 15:23, Alexander Mayrhofer > wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > I=E2=80=99ve just posted version -02 of the Padding Policy draft. This ve= rsion > consideres comments from the Prague WG sesson and subsequent mailing list > discussions. Specifically, the major changes are: > > - Changed Document status to =E2=80=9EExperimental=E2=80=9C > - Added =E2=80=9EMaximum Length=E2=80=9C padding strategy > - Reworded =E2=80=9EBlock Length=E2=80=9C strategy > - Added text with RFC2119 language to each strategy > - Provided justification for the recommended strategy. > > Please review and comment. I=E2=80=99m happy to talk about it in Singapor= e, and i > think we should be pretty close to WGLC=E2=80=98ing it out of our eyes af= ter that :) > > > > Hi Alex, > > Thanks for this update - I think this is taking shape now. I have a few > comments and a bunch of nits: > > Comments: > - I wonder if it is worth a comment about the fact padding doesn=E2=80=99= t obfuscate > that the packet is DNS traffic? The draft clearly talks only about hamper= ing > size-based correlation attacks but it just struck me that hiding the fact > the traffic is DNS (for example, if port 443 were used) is a non-goal for > this document. > > - I suspect the data used in the analysis didn=E2=80=99t include many (if= any) > DNSSEC validating clients=E2=80=A6 If they become more common then I woul= d expect > the response size padding to alter. Perhaps add a comment to this effect = in > section 5? > > - Section 4.5: =E2=80=9CMaximum (and eventually minimum) padding length.= =E2=80=9D Why > =E2=80=98eventually=E2=80=99 minimum? Do you mean implicitly? > > - Section 4.6: s/Number of size of the set of Block Lengths/Number of and > the values for the set of Block Lengths/ ? > > - Section 5: List item (2). Would it be useful to be more explicit here a= nd > say something like > =E2=80=9CIf a Server receives a query that includes the EDNS(0) padding o= ption, it > MUST pad the corresponding response [RFC7830] and SHOULD pad the > response to a multiple of 468 octects." > > Nits > - Introduction: Reference to RFC7830 at the start of the first sentance i= s > repeated. > - I see EDNS, EDNS0 and EDNS(0) used in different places in the document. > Perhaps use EDNS(0) throughout? > - Section 4: Full stop missing at the end of the first sentence. > - Sections 4.2 and 4.5: Full stop missing at the end of the =E2=80=98Adv= antages=E2=80=99 > statement. > - Section 4.2: s/of padding easily discoverable/of padding is easily > discoverable/ > - Section 4.2 "padding hence must be assumed=E2=80=9D Remove hence? > - Section 4.5: s/a good source of (pseudo) keeping/a good source of (pseu= do) > random numbers which can keep up/ > - Section 4.6: s/a few block lenght=E2=80=99es/a few block length values/ > - Section 4.6: s/selection of block lenght/selection of block length/ > - Section 4.6: last sentence s/require further/requires further/ > - Section 8: s/the chose policy/the chosen policy/ > - Section 8: s/A clients carefully chosen Padding policy/A clients' > carefully chosen Padding policy/ > - Section 8: s/server does apply an inffective (or no)/ server chooses to > apply an ineffective (or no)/ > - Section 8: s/want to chose a DNS server/want to choose a DNS server/ > > Sara. > > _______________________________________________ > dns-privacy mailing list > dns-privacy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy > From nobody Wed Nov 15 18:56:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-privacy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8332012943B for ; 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Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:56:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.146.229 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:56:31 -0800 (PST) From: tjw ietf Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:56:31 +0800 Message-ID: To: "dns-privacy@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c130b1a74cd87055e10c423" Archived-At: Subject: [dns-privacy] Minutes from DPRIVE side session IETF100 X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 02:56:35 -0000 --94eb2c130b1a74cd87055e10c423 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" These are Jim Reid's excellent summary minutes from last night. I will add some of my comments to these later today. Take a read and if you see anything off let us know. Alternatively you can just send a pull request: https://github.com/DNSOP/wg-materials/blob/master/ietf100/dnsop-ietf100-minutes.txt thanks tim --94eb2c130b1a74cd87055e10c423 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

These are Jim Reid's excellent summary minute= s from last night.=C2=A0 I will add some of my comments to these later toda= y.=C2=A0

Take a read and if you see anything off l= et us know.=C2=A0 Alternatively you can just send a pull request:=C2=A0


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Well my copy and paste failed:


Thanks Jim for setting me strai= ght, again.


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:56 AM, tjw ietf <tjw.ie= tf@gmail.com> wrote:

These are Jim Reid's excellent summary minutes from= last night.=C2=A0 I will add some of my comments to these later today.=C2= =A0

Take a read and if you see anything off let us= know.=C2=A0 Alternatively you can just send a pull request:=C2=A0



thanks
tim
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check there if you have questions. Also, our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CfP via different mailing lists.) After two successful BoF sessions at FOSDEM 2016 and 2017, FOSDEM 2018 will see a real DNS devroom! We hope to host talks anywhere from hardcore protocol stuff, to practical sessions for programmers that are not directly involved with DNS but may have to deal with DNS in their day to day coding, or system administrators responsible for DNS infrastructure. We have been allotted half a day on Sunday 4 February 2018. We expect to schedule 30 minutes per talk, including questions, but this is open to discussion. If you have something you'd like to share with your fellow developers, please head to pentabarf at https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM18. Examples of topics are measuring, monitoring, DNS libraries, and anecdotes on how you've (ab)used the DNS. The deadline for submission is December 8th. If you have a FOSDEM pentabarf account from a previous year, please use that account. Reach out to dns-devroom-manager@fosdem.org if you run into any trouble. We are also looking for volunteers to help with cameras etc. Please drop us an email at dns-devroom-manager@fosdem.org if you're interested in helping out. See you there! 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<871slkd66k.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> <7709D3C3-D879-421B-B81A-7908F521B9D5@sinodun.com> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:03:28 -0500 Message-ID: <87o9nl7v6n.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] review of draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles-11: we should revert DNSSEC validation requirement X-BeenThere: dns-privacy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 01:35:39 -0000 On Tue 2017-11-14 12:04:19 +0100, Sara Dickinson wrote: > This draft is now ready to progress once a -12 version is available. I > just want to circle back round to summarise the fact that the only > proposed difference that will be in the -12 version compared to -11 is > the following (in section 7.2. Direct configuration of ADN only): > > Current text: > > “It can then use Opportunistic DNS connections to an untrusted recursive > DNS resolver to establish the IP address of the intended privacy- > enabling DNS resolver by doing a lookup of A/AAAA records. Such > records SHOULD be DNSSEC validated when using a Strict Usage profile > and MUST be validated when using Opportunistic Privacy." > > New text: > “It can then use Opportunistic DNS connections to an untrusted recursive > DNS resolver to establish the IP address of the intended privacy- > enabling DNS resolver by doing a lookup of A/AAAA records. A > DNSSEC validating client SHOULD apply the same validation policy > to the A/AAAA meta-query lookups as it does to other queries. > A client that does not validate DNSSEC SHOULD apply the same policy (if any) > to the A/AAAA meta-query lookups as it does to other queries." > > I hope I captured the consensus correctly? Please let me know as I > intend to put out the -12 (final) version next Monday (20th). The text looks good to me. thanks for taking care of this, Sara. --dkg