From nobody Fri Jul 2 15:07:48 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855E93A0912; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 15:03:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: dnssd@ietf.org, evyncke@cisco.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.34.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <162526338352.26814.16485507852382480104@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 15:03:03 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] dnssd - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 111 X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." 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Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. dnssd Session 1 (1:00 requested) Tuesday, 27 July 2021, Session II 1430-1530 Room Name: Room 4 size: 504 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/sessions/dnssd.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Barbara Stark Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 60 Conflicts to Avoid: People who must be present: Barbara Stark David Schinazi Eric Vyncke Ted Lemon Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Jul 12 14:48:39 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965BE3A0927; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:48:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.34.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dnssd@ietf.org Message-ID: <162612651055.12318.17501446978828364035@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:48:30 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-10.txt X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 21:48:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG of the IETF. Title : Service Registration Protocol for DNS-Based Service Discovery Authors : Ted Lemon Stuart Cheshire Filename : draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-10.txt Pages : 30 Date : 2021-07-12 Abstract: The Service Registration Protocol for DNS-Based Service Discovery uses the standard DNS Update mechanism to enable DNS-Based Service Discovery using only unicast packets. This makes it possible to deploy DNS Service Discovery without multicast, which greatly improves scalability and improves performance on networks where multicast service is not an optimal choice, particularly 802.11 (Wi-Fi) and 802.15.4 (IoT) networks. DNS-SD Service registration uses public keys and SIG(0) to allow services to defend their registrations against attack. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-srp/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-10.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-10 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jul 14 06:47:31 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D850A3A177A for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:47:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pLJ3vltzv8yV for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-x329.google.com (mail-ot1-x329.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::329]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 379C03A1776 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x329.google.com with SMTP id w8-20020a0568304108b02904b3da3d49e5so2537360ott.1 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:47:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wXV1mEbMVqv4MIr6hQUqYwZ9UOoT5drT/OOg3kZOY1M=; b=MUjXS+Z1jKrO6kzjBv2JTcuFuYO1OJ+Oy04e37YdWFEYxj20eRVxCbG2aMVAgK1/cS qzCGpbJuZ9AZ+WtuaXRdyCQZ1+AjckEfVW6VNVoyKF9mXPIiUFGuqTflFrQzaS2pRtwt 3Ad0aJ0ls8JqEInN+V/fBul4OxbixjXa+fG4tNgso+HoH3m6wtY0z4URR/1rLMrO3AvK 0iy+BGeVzSheBWsQ6mUoIMnFP2vEMPnZ6MkpBW6qH0WfUUbth5RZqh9ApBAu/X09jtfy KxTl4Bx9zoMrZvinufcWIkS2+cnIjjgkaDbHULpTFNufzYaVZTHAFVCaInvc93twoRvK D+ZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wXV1mEbMVqv4MIr6hQUqYwZ9UOoT5drT/OOg3kZOY1M=; b=MbPcysKBZzWpuCwncDKtE4JDdI62FAbH/kGaTWpyzAdtE+ahECc3Z6VNXIMuS2fsBo WFm+OTnUGYuHlyUY6Jp0qBORLQhZ+s1zxpCejBle+v9/iWl25bkaiYDRB9To6iv4NXC4 LYkMJPpgnckY1GXVvp5IfFN8prMR0zNoX15ijACC90+BHKpWxgM8RNXdRqJ2Qj5eU7OP DeJCLZRFlu6DlWolRV/GHvNsFgo4iTFzW35ItZXXY/M/HJ1Vn9P27u6aS2sSqWpTglKQ 1t6rIg11wVgUX73UGt76+W2W08UUaR3ZqtZLPrqVA1O1HyslRomqA4NXhsXvoJGL/5RI zqoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532j63JMa1D/7zSrWPH6BS7NZy4T+8ZutrcnQvLVCmUKshyK7Qnt UvYLzNmBN3pjmK2CtW1QTCeUNdPGOKzlRmB38edSt2BFjkA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzsO5dKCgGV2dr0X/2JzjRIoyz/v4LExRYlO3cPSNCjYtd3965MRYFIUbwBqvG/6RILqnQwoVRmt03LiDGnjls= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6453:: with SMTP id m19mr8326751otl.63.1626270445664; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 649336022844 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:47:25 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Superhuman Desktop (2021-07-13T22:05:53Z) X-Superhuman-ID: kr3jf65c.d4ded10c-e09f-4755-9255-b77f96301386 X-Superhuman-Draft-ID: draft0053dd00e30bd512 From: Ted Lemon X-Superhuman-Thread-ID: draft0007aa64f578b41c Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 06:47:25 -0700 Message-ID: To: dnssd Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000390f8a05c71598d1" Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] Updates on Service Registration Protocol and Advertising Proxy documents X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:47:30 -0000 --000000000000390f8a05c71598d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=E2=80=99ve posted updates to the SRP and Advertising Proxy documents. The= re are only two minor changes to SRP=E2=80=94I think it=E2=80=99s ready for last c= all at this point. Advertising Proxy is still a work in progress. I added a section that talks about a different way of handling mDNS conflicts. I think this merits further discussion. My previous ask for the working group was to adopt it as a work item; I think there was reasonable support for this in the meeting, but I don=E2=80=99t think a call for adoption has happened yet. In addition to these two documents, I=E2=80=99ve written two other document= s in anticipation of the upcoming meeting. Unfortunately I finished them later than I=E2=80=99d intended, and they weren=E2=80=99t able to get through leg= al review in time to post. Legal review will probably happen next week, and hopefully I=E2=80=99ll be cleared to post them, although that=E2=80=99s never guarant= eed. The two documents are: - a 20-page specification for a SRP replication protocol, which is useful for situations where for example you have one or more stub networ= ks to connect to an infrastructure network such as a home network, and you need to provide some reliability but don't have a way to set up a reliab= le primary name server - A 10-page specification for ad-hoc DNS-SD zone discovery using mDNS, so that a piece of ad-hoc infrastructure such as an SRP replication zone can be made available for DNS and DNS Push queries, reducing the need fo= r multicast service discovery for such a zone These are both things that we've implemented in the latest seed release of TVos, which runs on HomePod Mini and the most recent Apple TV hardware. I don't consider either of these to be done=E2=80=94there are open questions = on both, and I think it would really help to have more people looking at the work and thinking about those open questions. If we can get consensus on solutions, and that consensus isn't compatible with the current implementations, I think that's fine=E2=80=94in the case of TVos, firmware = updates are easy and encouraged, so there shouldn't be issues with needing to support legacy implementations. (If you are tempted to update your devices to try out the new functionality, talk to me privately first!) For the upcoming meeting, if chairs are willing, I'd like to quickly discuss a WGLC for SRP, and the call for adoption for the advertising proxy document. I'd also like to talk about open problems in the advertising proxy document, and if time permits I'd like to talk about the SRP Replication work and the ad-hoc zone discovery work. I'd like to see both of these documents adopted by the working group if possible, but I think a call for adoption on the 27th would be premature since people likely won't have had time to review the documents. --000000000000390f8a05c71598d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=E2=80=99ve posted updates to the SRP and Advertising Proxy = documents. There are only two minor changes to SRP=E2=80=94I think it=E2=80= =99s ready for last call at this point.

Advertisin= g Proxy is still a work in progress. I added a section that talks about a d= ifferent way of handling mDNS conflicts. I think this merits further discus= sion. My previous ask for the working group was to adopt it as a work item;= I think there was reasonable support for this in the meeting, but I don=E2= =80=99t think a call for adoption has happened yet.

In ad= dition to these two documents, I=E2=80=99ve written two other documents in = anticipation of the upcoming meeting. Unfortunately I finished them later t= han I=E2=80=99d intended, and they weren=E2=80=99t able to get through lega= l review in time to post. Legal review will probably happen next week, and = hopefully I=E2=80=99ll be cleared to post them, although that=E2=80=99s nev= er guaranteed. The two documents are:
  • a 20-page specification f= or a SRP replication protocol, which is useful for situations where for exa= mple you have one or more stub networks to connect to an infrastructure net= work such as a home network, and you need to provide some reliability but d= on't have a way to set up a reliable primary name server
  • A 10-page specification for ad-hoc DNS-SD zone discovery using mDN= S, so that a piece of ad-hoc infrastructure such as an SRP replication zone= can be made available for DNS and DNS Push queries, reducing the need for = multicast service discovery for such a zone
These are bot= h things that we've implemented in the latest seed release of TVos, whi= ch runs on HomePod Mini and the most recent Apple TV hardware. I don't = consider either of these to be done=E2=80=94there are open questions on bot= h, and I think it would really help to have more people looking at the work= and thinking about those open questions. If we can get consensus on soluti= ons, and that consensus isn't compatible with the current implementatio= ns, I think that's fine=E2=80=94in the case of TVos, firmware updates a= re easy and encouraged, so there shouldn't be issues with needing to su= pport legacy implementations.

(If you are temp= ted to update your devices to try out the new functionality, talk to me pri= vately first!)

For the upcoming meeting, if chairs= are willing, I'd like to quickly discuss a WGLC for SRP, and the call = for adoption for the advertising proxy document. I'd also like to talk = about open problems in the advertising proxy document, and if time permits = I'd like to talk about the SRP Replication work and the ad-hoc zone dis= covery work. I'd like to see both of these documents adopted by the wor= king group if possible, but I think a call for adoption on the 27th would b= e premature since people likely won't have=C2=A0 had time to review the= documents.


--000000000000390f8a05c71598d1-- From nobody Thu Jul 15 12:35:05 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2F23A087D for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 12:35:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kmrOgKXUUWyq for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 12:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08C013A0874 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 12:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [IPv6:2001:638:a000:4134::ffff:51]) by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86268548015 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 21:34:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix, from userid 10463) id 7B8854E7A58; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 21:34:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 21:34:53 +0200 From: Toerless Eckert To: dnssd@ietf.org Message-ID: <20210715193453.GC28912@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] [Dnssd] DNS-SD for networking automation (ANIMA etc..) X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 19:35:03 -0000 Dear DNS-SD WG I wanted to bring this work again up with DNS-SD working group, looking for interest and collaboration. I presented this originally in 2017 at IETF100 to DNS-SD WG: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-dnssd-03-toerless-grasp-01.pdf But then had to let this work sleep because we had a backlog of about 450 pages worth of ANIMA drafts that wanted to become RFC first, which we finally managed to get done in May 2021 - RFC{8366,8368,899[012345]} So, now i refresh this work for IETF111, alrady with additional co-author and wanted to also refresh interest with DNS-SD: a) Introducing GRASP protocol as a new transport for "DNS-SD" (beside mDNS, unicast and others). https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eckert-anima-grasp-dnssd/ b) Leveraging DNS-SD to drive autoconfiguration of decentalized infrastructure services in networks. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eckert-anima-services-dns-autoconfig/ The foundational part is really that there are several significant infratructure services needed in networks including NTP, radius/diameter, DHCP, DNS, syslog, netconf/ssh that need to be autoconfigured both for initial bootstrap of devices, but also during the network lifecycle, and dynamic Service Discovery makes those services much more flexible to confiure, resilient against server failure and performant through server load-splitting and/or proximity based server selection. So, i'll be asking for a slot to present / discuss again at IETF111, also taking feedback from IETF100 into account! But please feel free, to also discuss here on the mailin list! 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 14:38:16 -0000 Hi dnssd WG, The agenda is posted at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/= agenda-111-dnssd-00. Please let me know if there need to be changes (other = than formatting, bad links, and extraneous copy/paste artifacts). But for those who hate to click on links, I've copied important parts below= . Please let me know if we need changes. Thanks, Ted for your email to the WG explaining your plans. I've given you = a block of time to use (40 minutes).=20 If there is interest in having a few more minutes to discuss Toerless' draf= t, we'll take the time off the chair wrap-up at the end (and not off the ti= me allotted to Ted). Thx, Barbara and David, aka The DNSSD Chairs ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------ Administrivia and Status Update: dnssd Chair slides (5 minutes) DNS-SD Compatible Service Discovery in GeneRic Autonomic Signaling Protocol= (GRASP)=20 * Toerless Eckert, 5 minutes -- may be extended by a few minutes if there = is broad interest expressed * [draft-eckert-anima-grasp-dnssd](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= eckert-anima-grasp-dnssd/) 40 minutes allocated for: Service Registration Protocol for DNS-Based Service Discovery=20 * Ted Lemon * [draft-ietf-dnssd-srp](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd= -srp/) * Start WGLC? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 14:41:45 -0000 The email I got from the list looked nothing like the email I sent. So I'm = re-sending... Hi dnssd WG, The agenda is posted at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/= agenda-111-dnssd-00. Please let me know if there need to be changes (other = than formatting, bad links, and extraneous copy/paste artifacts). But for those who hate to click on links, I've copied important parts below= . Please let me know if we need changes. Thanks, Ted for your email to the WG explaining your plans. I've given you = a block of time to use (40 minutes).=20 If there is interest in having a few more minutes to discuss Toerless' draf= t, we'll take the time off the chair wrap-up at the end (and not off the ti= me allotted to Ted). Thx, Barbara and David, aka The DNSSD Chairs ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------ Administrivia and Status Update: dnssd Chair slides (5 minutes) DNS-SD Compatible Service Discovery in GeneRic Autonomic Signaling Protocol= (GRASP)=20 * Toerless Eckert, 5 minutes -- may be extended by a few minutes if there = is broad interest expressed * [draft-eckert-anima-grasp-dnssd](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= eckert-anima-grasp-dnssd/) 40 minutes allocated for: Service Registration Protocol for DNS-Based Service Discovery=20 * Ted Lemon * [draft-ietf-dnssd-srp](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd= -srp/) * Start WGLC? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 23:34:45 -0000 --0000000000002f8fa605c80f31de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 6:47 AM Ted Lemon wrote: > I=E2=80=99ve posted updates to the SRP and Advertising Proxy documents. T= here are > only two minor changes to SRP=E2=80=94I think it=E2=80=99s ready for last= call at this > point. > Thank you for adding text regarding subtypes to draft-10, which is important for our use cases that involve the integration of Matter and Thread . In addition to the SRP server implementation mentioned in draft-10, there is now a second independent implementation available as open source within the OpenThread project - https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_server.= cpp . I support advancing the SRP document to WGLC. -- Jonathan Hui --0000000000002f8fa605c80f31de Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 6:47 AM Ted Lemon= <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
I=E2=80=99ve posted updates to the SRP and Adv= ertising Proxy documents. There are only two minor changes to SRP=E2=80=94I= think it=E2=80=99s ready for last call at this point.

Thank you for adding text regard= ing subtypes to draft-10, which is important for our use cases that involve= the integration of Matter and= Thread.

<= div>In addition to the SRP server implementation mentioned in draft-10, the= re is now a second independent implementation available=C2=A0as open source= within the OpenThread project -=C2=A0https://github.com/op= enthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_server.cpp.
I support advancing the SRP document to WGLC.

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Jonathan Hui

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As was discussed in the meeting today,=C2=A0 one of the normative references in= the Service Registration Protocol document is to draft-sekar-dns-ul, which= describes the DNS Update Lease option. For those who are challenged by par= sing this, as I tend to be, that's the EDNS0 option for declaring a lea= se on a DNS Update.

There was some question as= to whether this was an appropriate document for the working group, so that= 's one question. However, whether it is or not, it would be good if it = got some review, and this working group probably has a lot of the most qual= ified people to look at it.

So, please take a = look at the document and comment here. You can find a copy of the document = here:=C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-sekar-dns-ul-03.html

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The minutes for yesterday's session have now been post= ed to:

Thank you Stuart for taking= minutes!

Please take a look and report any inaccu= racies=C2=A0by replying to this email.

Thanks,
David
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Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,

Th= is email starts an official Working Group Last Call for=C2=A0draft-ietf-dns= sd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the document is ready for publica= tion. As such we are asking two questions:

1) if y= ou believe this document is not ready to publish, please speak up now
=

2) if you have read the document and think it is ready,= please say so as well

For this call to succeed, w= e'll need statements of explicit support from people who have read the = draft. Please send statements in either direction as responses to this emai= l. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 UTC.

<= div>Thanks,
David
--000000000000029cb205c83612c9-- From nobody Wed Jul 28 15:02:48 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D4F3A2358; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:02:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.35.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <162750976671.26085.7962741867155423570@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:02:46 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] The DNSSD WG has placed draft-sctl-advertising-proxy in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:02:47 -0000 The DNSSD WG has placed draft-sctl-advertising-proxy in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by David Schinazi) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sctl-advertising-proxy/ From nobody Wed Jul 28 15:03:00 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF8E3A237A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:02:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uF6H5Y76tKOm for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pl1-x636.google.com (mail-pl1-x636.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::636]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D40793A236B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x636.google.com with SMTP id z3so3108818plg.8 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:02:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=L8StCY6iB5jOy9sJxDqyg+LPo9YMMBpA5jk5lDG7EZ0=; b=YHZCJo5TFD6ygrD1ngKDMAn3SLhd6E70xZGrlRcCObZx4GKwZ5qRWGsM2Y6jy2bB6H PaHToPK7cGAGN+8sU5xAM/ZUyg92DN4S1JLw1GzpQo7DcRgOJXja7dp9mtBV0sDWd/dm bhAEiaABk1JsmXsMN5S4HZi+QqxZD+a9AiGj1digGsKb/irPGyxs2zhJ/RyD8f9EbiGM 5gwR2OI8GyeSEtK7EFEuXURgcQEA/4dv1gfTZ2nZPNnH5w005mLRTBcUIiqvBFRTYwlr PASyCNXxdPJEZIrYVHGr5zpg6G3Azow+atDJo2qxpw6glXKu1A+uHb1uzPGCqDeSAGdC RCXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=L8StCY6iB5jOy9sJxDqyg+LPo9YMMBpA5jk5lDG7EZ0=; b=CDYIqiT3V9FjsxQ4o2nc4JqCdIJlOVrERp4HN4XOH1ZxfKK5QLbMOGIwUQgcJJEIq8 wHetBTNU8JotVmiR7oXYc1nagrMD99TjvPmLH3HVF7DF5N4SUfjrPYNvBvwlvNVUWYet 00W5P9ydJG4Bb95EbWTEYPpwTV7bTETY/qMcJzeKwEYC1NLoIPDCIhqG/UE9hmlm6tRL iQtpW9KbykPpNJJ46fLtd05TBiVtt4uCIrjPn3ZN6gFT0aQy68HnlB3KynUpbaQ9+r8/ SiyskB9w9jcT919kTXKHI+c+WjKuw3lBZpaSXiMMXLqxd4lS9ATbLr0jBCJ356pXLeqe Eddg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530RinfMn+QkgeNxKIfOK6PRhZfmp4uth8Oc/IqPO0zMrZK1YYl2 Gsa7oQvumHIaeLUIJsbrv495IT7cq/jN1a7rSjQ0hocnkMc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwXji5udYZOQOmLTJuohDi5Pt5uFMgte1rSicKRghK7Q9fUPhqqqZYsY2lBZxpMGe6EPtCcqFYjVjFFTDwwyTU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4409:: with SMTP id s9mr11668099pjg.100.1627509767230; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Schinazi Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:02:36 -0700 Message-ID: To: DNSSD Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008b583805c83625f8" Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] Adoption call for draft-sctl-advertising-proxy X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." 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Please send statements in either direction as responses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 UTC. Thanks, David --0000000000008b583805c83625f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,

This email st= arts an official adoption call for=C2=A0draft-sctl-advertising-proxy by the= DNSSD working group. This call asks whether we think that this document is= a good starting point for working group discussion. That means that it is = still possible to adopt a document with issues if we believe we'll be a= ble to solve those issues together as a working group. As such we are askin= g two questions:

1) if you believe=C2=A0that this = document is not something the working group=C2=A0should be working on, plea= se speak up now

2) if you have read the document a= nd would like to discuss it=C2=A0further inside the DNSSD working group, pl= ease say so as well

For this call to succeed,= we'll need statements of explicit support from people who have read th= e draft. Please send statements in either direction as responses to this em= ail. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 UTC.

Thanks,
David
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 23:47:26 -0000 --00000000000061f4c005c8379bd2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I'd like to add my support in favor of publishing the draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. I have read and reviewed the draft in detail (including the latest version) and I think it is good and ready to be published. SRP is a solution which is intended for use/adoption in Thread mesh networks. The use of unicast packets by SRP makes it a preferred and more efficient approach. In OpenThread (open source) project, we have implemented the SRP client and server (per the draft spec) which are available at: - https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_client.cpp - https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_server.cpp I'd like to thank Ted and Stuart for writing this and driving this forward. Abtin. On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:57 PM David Schinazi wrote: > Hi DNSSD enthusiasts, > > This email starts an official Working Group Last Call > for draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the document is > ready for publication. As such we are asking two questions: > > 1) if you believe this document is not ready to publish, please speak up > now > > 2) if you have read the document and think it is ready, please say so as > well > > For this call to succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support from > people who have read the draft. Please send statements in either direction > as responses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 > UTC. > > Thanks, > David > _______________________________________________ > dnssd mailing list > dnssd@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd > --00000000000061f4c005c8379bd2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I'd like to add my support in favor of publ= ishing the draft-ietf-dnssd-srp.

I have read and reviewed the draft = in detail (including the latest version) and I think it is good and ready t= o be published.

SRP is a solution which is intended for use/adoption= in Thread mesh networks. The use of unicast packets by SRP makes it a pref= erred and more efficient approach.

In OpenThread (open source) proje= ct, we have implemented the SRP client and server (per the draft spec) whic= h are available at:
- https://github.com/openthread/open= thread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_client.cpp=C2=A0
- https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_server= .cpp=C2=A0

I'd like to thank Ted and Stuart for writing this= and driving this forward.

Abtin.


On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:5= 7 PM David Schinazi <dschina= zi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,
=
This email starts an official Working Group Last Call for=C2= =A0draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the document is = ready for publication. As such we are asking two questions:

<= /div>
1) if you believe this document is not ready to publish, please s= peak up now

2) if you have read the document and t= hink it is ready, please say so as well

For this c= all to succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support from people w= ho have read the draft. Please send statements in either direction as respo= nses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 UTC.

Thanks,
David
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 02:19:26 -0000 --00000000000022f5ea05c839bb92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Abtin. One slight clarification: Thread was the use case that first motivated an implementation of SRP, but we=E2=80=99re also hoping to = make it work on regular infrastructure networks like WiFi and Ethernet! :) On Wed, Jul 28 2021 at 18:47, Abtin Keshavarzian < abtink=3D40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to add my support in favor of publishing the draft-ietf-dnssd-sr= p. > > I have read and reviewed the draft in detail (including the latest > version) and I think it is good and ready to be published. > > SRP is a solution which is intended for use/adoption in Thread mesh > networks. The use of unicast packets by SRP makes it a preferred and more > efficient approach. > > In OpenThread (open source) project, we have implemented the SRP client > and server (per the draft spec) which are available at: > - > https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_clien= t.cpp > > - > https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_serve= r.cpp > > > I'd like to thank Ted and Stuart for writing this and driving this forwar= d. > > Abtin. > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:57 PM David Schinazi > wrote: > >> Hi DNSSD enthusiasts, >> >> This email starts an official Working Group Last Call >> for draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the document= is >> ready for publication. As such we are asking two questions: >> >> 1) if you believe this document is not ready to publish, please speak up >> now >> >> 2) if you have read the document and think it is ready, please say so as >> well >> >> For this call to succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support from >> people who have read the draft. Please send statements in either directi= on >> as responses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:5= 9 >> UTC. >> >> Thanks, >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> dnssd mailing list >> dnssd@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd >> > > _______________________________________________ > dnssd mailing list > dnssd@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd > --00000000000022f5ea05c839bb92 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Abtin. One slight clarification: Thread was the use ca= se that first motivated an implementation of SRP, but we=E2=80=99re also ho= ping to make it work on regular infrastructure networks like WiFi and Ether= net! :)

=20 =20

On Wed, Jul 28 2021 at 18:47, Abtin Keshavarzian <abtink=3D40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
Hi,

I'd like to add my support in = favor of publishing the draft-ietf-dnssd-srp.

I have read and review= ed the draft in detail (including the latest version) and I think it is goo= d and ready to be published.

SRP is a solution which is intended for= use/adoption in Thread mesh networks. The use of unicast packets by SRP ma= kes it a preferred and more efficient approach.

In OpenThread (open = source) project, we have implemented the SRP client and server (per the dra= ft spec) which are available at:
- https://github.com/op= enthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_client.cpp=C2=A0
- https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/n= et/srp_server.cpp=C2=A0

I'd like to thank Ted and Stuart for= writing this and driving this forward.

Abtin.


On Wed, Jul 28= , 2021 at 2:57 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,

This email starts an official Working Group Las= t Call for=C2=A0draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the= document is ready for publication. As such we are asking two questions:

1) if you believe this document is not ready to publ= ish, please speak up now

2) if you have read the d= ocument and think it is ready, please say so as well

For this call to succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support = from people who have read the draft. Please send statements in either direc= tion as responses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23= :59 UTC.

Thanks,
David
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:18:20 -0000 --000000000000b5804c05c8464986 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have reviewed the latest version of this document (draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-10) and believe it is ready to publish. For those interested in playing with OpenThread's SRP implementation, see the Thread Border Router Codelab . The OpenThread SRP implementation is also being used in Matter and already integrated into the Matter SDK . -- Jonathan Hui On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM Ted Lemon wrote: > Thanks, Abtin. One slight clarification: Thread was the use case that > first motivated an implementation of SRP, but we=E2=80=99re also hoping t= o make it > work on regular infrastructure networks like WiFi and Ethernet! :) > > > On Wed, Jul 28 2021 at 18:47, Abtin Keshavarzian < > abtink=3D40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to add my support in favor of publishing the >> draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. >> >> I have read and reviewed the draft in detail (including the latest >> version) and I think it is good and ready to be published. >> >> SRP is a solution which is intended for use/adoption in Thread mesh >> networks. The use of unicast packets by SRP makes it a preferred and mor= e >> efficient approach. >> >> In OpenThread (open source) project, we have implemented the SRP client >> and server (per the draft spec) which are available at: >> - >> https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_clie= nt.cpp >> >> - >> https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_serv= er.cpp >> >> >> I'd like to thank Ted and Stuart for writing this and driving this >> forward. >> >> Abtin. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:57 PM David Schinazi >> wrote: >> >>> Hi DNSSD enthusiasts, >>> >>> This email starts an official Working Group Last Call >>> for draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the documen= t is >>> ready for publication. As such we are asking two questions: >>> >>> 1) if you believe this document is not ready to publish, please speak u= p >>> now >>> >>> 2) if you have read the document and think it is ready, please say so a= s >>> well >>> >>> For this call to succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support fro= m >>> people who have read the draft. Please send statements in either direct= ion >>> as responses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:= 59 >>> UTC. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> David >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dnssd mailing list >>> dnssd@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dnssd mailing list >> dnssd@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd >> > _______________________________________________ > dnssd mailing list > dnssd@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd > --000000000000b5804c05c8464986 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have revi= ewed the latest version of this document (draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-10) and beli= eve it is ready to publish.

For those interested i= n playing with OpenThread's=C2=A0SRP implementation, see the=C2=A0Thread Bor= der Router Codelab.

The OpenThread SRP implementation= is also being used in=C2=A0Matter= =C2=A0and already integrated=C2=A0into the Matter SDK.

--
Jonathan Hui



On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
Thanks, Abtin. One slight clarification: Thread was the use ca= se that first motivated an implementation of SRP, but we=E2=80=99re also ho= ping to make it work on regular infrastructure networks like WiFi and Ether= net! :)

=20 =20

On Wed, Jul 28 2021 at 18:47, Abtin Keshavarzian <abtink=3D40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
Hi,

I'd like to add my support in = favor of publishing the draft-ietf-dnssd-srp.

I have read and review= ed the draft in detail (including the latest version) and I think it is goo= d and ready to be published.

SRP is a solution which is intended for= use/adoption in Thread mesh networks. The use of unicast packets by SRP ma= kes it a preferred and more efficient approach.

In OpenThread (open = source) project, we have implemented the SRP client and server (per the dra= ft spec) which are available at:
- htt= ps://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_client.cpp= =C2=A0
- https://github.com/openth= read/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_server.cpp=C2=A0

I= 9;d like to thank Ted and Stuart for writing this and driving this forward.=

Abtin.


On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:57 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@= gmail.com> wrote:
Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,

This email starts an official Working Group Last Call for=C2=A0dra= ft-ietf-dnssd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the document is ready = for publication. As such we are asking two questions:

<= div>1) if you believe this document is not ready to publish, please speak u= p now

2) if you have read the document and think i= t is ready, please say so as well

For this call to= succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support from people who hav= e read the draft. Please send statements in either direction as responses t= o this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 UTC.
=
Thanks,
David
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 18:51:42 -0000 --000000000000a3356e05c84797cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ted. Yes. I fully agree and I think SRP will be definitely useful in other infra networks (WiFi/Ethernet) as well. Sorry. What I meant (which I agree probably was not clear) is that Thread group (and Matter) intends to use/adopt SRP (and not that SRP is only intended for use by Thread). :) Abtin. On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM Ted Lemon wrote: > Thanks, Abtin. One slight clarification: Thread was the use case that > first motivated an implementation of SRP, but we=E2=80=99re also hoping t= o make it > work on regular infrastructure networks like WiFi and Ethernet! :) > > > On Wed, Jul 28 2021 at 18:47, Abtin Keshavarzian < > abtink=3D40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to add my support in favor of publishing the >> draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. >> >> I have read and reviewed the draft in detail (including the latest >> version) and I think it is good and ready to be published. >> >> SRP is a solution which is intended for use/adoption in Thread mesh >> networks. The use of unicast packets by SRP makes it a preferred and mor= e >> efficient approach. >> >> In OpenThread (open source) project, we have implemented the SRP client >> and server (per the draft spec) which are available at: >> - >> https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_clie= nt.cpp >> >> - >> https://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_serv= er.cpp >> >> >> I'd like to thank Ted and Stuart for writing this and driving this >> forward. >> >> Abtin. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:57 PM David Schinazi >> wrote: >> >>> Hi DNSSD enthusiasts, >>> >>> This email starts an official Working Group Last Call >>> for draft-ietf-dnssd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the documen= t is >>> ready for publication. As such we are asking two questions: >>> >>> 1) if you believe this document is not ready to publish, please speak u= p >>> now >>> >>> 2) if you have read the document and think it is ready, please say so a= s >>> well >>> >>> For this call to succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support fro= m >>> people who have read the draft. Please send statements in either direct= ion >>> as responses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:= 59 >>> UTC. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> David >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dnssd mailing list >>> dnssd@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dnssd mailing list >> dnssd@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd >> > --000000000000a3356e05c84797cf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Ted.

Yes. I fully agree an= d I think SRP will be definitely useful in other infra networks (WiFi/Ether= net) as well.

Sorry. What I meant (which I agree p= robably was not clear) is that Thread group (and Matter) intends to use/ado= pt SRP (and not that SRP is only intended=C2=A0for use by Thread). :)
=

Abtin.

=
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM Ted L= emon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote= :
Thanks, Abtin. One slight clarification: Thread was the use ca= se that first motivated an implementation of SRP, but we=E2=80=99re also ho= ping to make it work on regular infrastructure networks like WiFi and Ether= net! :)

=20 =20

On Wed, Jul 28 2021 at 18:47, Abtin Keshavarzian <abtink=3D40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
Hi,

I'd like to add my support in = favor of publishing the draft-ietf-dnssd-srp.

I have read and review= ed the draft in detail (including the latest version) and I think it is goo= d and ready to be published.

SRP is a solution which is intended for= use/adoption in Thread mesh networks. The use of unicast packets by SRP ma= kes it a preferred and more efficient approach.

In OpenThread (open = source) project, we have implemented the SRP client and server (per the dra= ft spec) which are available at:
- htt= ps://github.com/openthread/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_client.cpp= =C2=A0
- https://github.com/openth= read/openthread/blob/main/src/core/net/srp_server.cpp=C2=A0

I= 9;d like to thank Ted and Stuart for writing this and driving this forward.=

Abtin.


On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:57 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@= gmail.com> wrote:
Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,

This email starts an official Working Group Last Call for=C2=A0dra= ft-ietf-dnssd-srp. This call asks whether we believe the document is ready = for publication. As such we are asking two questions:

<= div>1) if you believe this document is not ready to publish, please speak u= p now

2) if you have read the document and think i= t is ready, please say so as well

For this call to= succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support from people who hav= e read the draft. Please send statements in either direction as responses t= o this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 UTC.
=
Thanks,
David
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:25:33 -0000 --0000000000003e102a05c848e7e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have reviewed the latest version of this document (draft-sctl-advertising-proxy-02) and believe this work should be adopted by this working group. The advertising proxy addresses important use cases for Matter and Thread and makes it possible to discover services registered via SRP via mDNS. OpenThread includes an open source implementation of the advertising proxy - anyone interested in playing with it, see the Thread Border Router Codelab . Thanks to Ted and Stuart for driving this effort. -- Jonathan Hui On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:03 PM David Schinazi wrote: > Hi DNSSD enthusiasts, > > This email starts an official adoption call > for draft-sctl-advertising-proxy by the DNSSD working group. This call asks > whether we think that this document is a good starting point for working > group discussion. That means that it is still possible to adopt a document > with issues if we believe we'll be able to solve those issues together as a > working group. As such we are asking two questions: > > 1) if you believe that this document is not something the working > group should be working on, please speak up now > > 2) if you have read the document and would like to discuss it further > inside the DNSSD working group, please say so as well > > For this call to succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support from > people who have read the draft. Please send statements in either direction > as responses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 > UTC. > > Thanks, > David > _______________________________________________ > dnssd mailing list > dnssd@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd > --0000000000003e102a05c848e7e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have reviewed the latest version of this document (= draft-sctl-advertising-proxy-02) and believe this work should be adopted by= this working group.

The advertising proxy address= es important use cases for Matter and Thread and makes=C2=A0it possible to = discover services registered=C2=A0via SRP via mDNS.

OpenThread includes an open source implementation of the advertising prox= y - anyone interested in playing with it, see the=C2=A0Thread Border Router Code= lab.

Thanks to Ted and Stuart for driving this= effort.

--
= Jonathan Hui



On Wed, Jul 28, 2021= at 3:03 PM David Schinazi <= dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi DNSSD enthusiasts,

=
This email starts an official adoption call for=C2=A0draft-sctl-= advertising-proxy by the DNSSD working group. This call asks whether we thi= nk that this document is a good starting point for working group discussion= . That means that it is still possible to adopt a document with issues if w= e believe we'll be able to solve those issues together as a working gro= up. As such we are asking two questions:

1) if you= believe=C2=A0that this document is not something the working group=C2=A0sh= ould be working on, please speak up now

2) if you = have read the document and would like to discuss it=C2=A0further inside the= DNSSD working group, please say so as well

F= or this call to succeed, we'll need statements of explicit support from= people who have read the draft. Please send statements in either direction= as responses to this email. This call will be open until 2021-08-15 23:59 = UTC.

Thanks,
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 01:04:38 -0000 --00000000000056493705c84ccdf5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Ted, As promised in the meeting, I've now reviewed the draft. Here's my thoughts. *Questions and comments* The -01 version of this draft has an associated patent. The IPR disclosure is https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1236/. What does this mean for -03? In Section 4, it strikes me as odd that KEY RRtype is treated specially here. I know why, because that's what SRP needs. But in the context of this single draft, is there a rationale as to why KEY, and only KEY, needs a different lease time? Is it worth looking at the draft through the lens of the EDM program? For example should it be extensible to separate out other RRtypes? Should greasing come into the picture? The answer might be "not in this case", but I thought it worth at least thinking about. Either section 4 or 5 should be explicit about what the client MUST/SHOULD/MAY do when the server insists on a different lease period to the one the client requested. It is not currently clear to me if the server is always right, or if the client can impose bounds on what is acceptable. In Section 5.2, refresh messages are asked to set a prerequisite of "RRSet exists (value dependent)". I don't have much experience of prerequisites. It sounds like it creates a risk that in some situations the prerequisite will be unsatisified, resulting in the failure to refresh and the record ultimately being deleted on expiry. Is this a genuine risk or am I missing something? Section 5.3 would benefit from adding a sentence along the lines of "If at least one record in the Refresh Request has completed at least 50% of its lease, the server SHOULD refresh all of the records.".This is because implementors might misinterpret "If no records", as "If any records ", creating problems with coalescing. In Section 7, do we need to ask IANA to update the status of Option Code 2 from on-hold to standard? *Editorial suggestions* Section 4 Personally I would drop the part in brackets here: Leases are expected to be sufficiently long as to make timer discrepancies (due to transmission latency, etc.) between a client and server negligible. Section 5 Don't we normally use the spelling "retry" rather than "re-try"? That's all. Overall it's clearly a useful capability, so I would support eventual publication. Chris On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 at 00:01, Ted Lemon wrote: > As was discussed in the meeting today, one of the normative references > in the Service Registration Protocol document is to draft-sekar-dns-ul, > which describes the DNS Update Lease option. For those who are challenged > by parsing this, as I tend to be, that's the EDNS0 option for declaring a > lease on a DNS Update. > > There was some question as to whether this was an appropriate document for > the working group, so that's one question. However, whether it is or not, > it would be good if it got some review, and this working group probably has > a lot of the most qualified people to look at it. > > So, please take a look at the document and comment here. You can find a > copy of the document here: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-sekar-dns-ul-03.html > > _______________________________________________ > dnssd mailing list > dnssd@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssd > --00000000000056493705c84ccdf5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ted,

<= div dir=3D"ltr">As promised in the meeting, I've now reviewed the draft= . Here's my thoughts.

Questions= and comments
The -01 version of this draft has an associated= patent. The IPR disclosure is https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1236/. What d= oes this mean for -03?

In Section 4, it strike= s me as odd that KEY RRtype is treated specially here. I know why, because = that's what SRP needs. But in the context of this single draft, is ther= e a rationale as to why KEY, and only KEY, needs a different lease time?

Is it worth looking at the draft through the lens of= the EDM program? For example should it be extensible to separate out other= RRtypes? Should greasing come into the picture? The answer might be "= not in this case", but I thought it worth at least thinking about.

Either section 4 or 5 should be explicit = about what the client MUST/SHOULD/MAY do when the server insists on a diffe= rent lease period to the one the client requested. It is not currently clea= r to me if the server is always right, or if the client can impose bounds o= n what is acceptable.

In Section 5.2, = refresh messages are asked to set a prerequisite of "RRSet exists (val= ue dependent)". I don't have much experience of prerequisites. It = sounds like it creates a risk that in some situations the prerequisite will= be unsatisified, resulting in the failure to refresh and the record ultima= tely being deleted on expiry. Is this a genuine risk or am I missing someth= ing?

Section 5.3 would benefit from adding a = sentence along the lines of=C2=A0 "If at least one re= cord in the Refresh Request has completed at least 50% of its lease, the se= rver SHOULD refresh all of the records.".This is because implem= entors might misinterpret "If no records"= , as "If any records=C2=A0", creating problems with coalescing.

In Section 7, do we need to ask IANA to update the status of Option Code= 2 from on-hold to standard?

Editor= ial suggestions

Section 4
Personally I wou= ld drop the part in brackets here:
Leases are ex= pected to be sufficiently long as to make timer discrepancies (due to trans= mission latency, etc.) between a client and server negligible.

Section 5
Don't we normally use the s= pelling "retry" rather than "re-try"?


That's all. Overall it's clearly a useful ca= pability, so I would support eventual publication.

Chris

On = Wed, 28 Jul 2021 at 00:01, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
As was discussed in= the meeting today,=C2=A0 one of the normative references in t= he Service Registration Protocol document is to draft-sekar-dns-ul, which d= escribes the DNS Update Lease option. For those who are challenged by parsi= ng this, as I tend to be, that's the EDNS0 option for declaring a lease= on a DNS Update.

There was some question as t= o whether this was an appropriate document for the working group, so that&#= 39;s one question. However, whether it is or not, it would be good if it go= t some review, and this working group probably has a lot of the most qualif= ied people to look at it.

So, please take a lo= ok at the document and comment here. You can find a copy of the document he= re:=C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-sekar-dns-ul-0= 3.html

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