From nobody Mon Aug 3 01:35:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6D33A0CA1; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 01:35:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=smyslov.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89neJKBuO_Vr; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 01:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from direct.host-care.com (direct.host-care.com [198.136.54.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5CF43A0C7A; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 01:35:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smyslov.net ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=kHYjjP7k8X3jz0CBmPcFPxrG8pYPIk3MTCE2RN0pF9E=; b=vt0KYYIruPWNMsob4jpxGluDWi DO5g2QXReTWGSgoDKVaRVWTBv4a57O1GuHvbJT/zTNFqQ3omb4/0rhfVFLfIsfDCimG29rqJeQxNU f1dUhRKSY+GLOIcF5cOsnpQ73NRqTPolsPgpwCv/HipwOOBm+KLrdZD6v7HdfPCd2ubgM15GlMO2R Psi73Phf/SByaVd1hjxZ6i90tHaBYxkiyfA0KMw43JifiKnURzDxBCZcmmshevLfhN70Ea7wQfs70 FW+IXc/mifdHBkqIeWhcFct8ClIY2LckiQbLKP2ThBZMZb5XlrkpRBhuDKMnyuV07tkbKCa2qBBnc 7rQDemvQ==; Received: from [82.138.51.3] (port=64265 helo=buildpc) by direct.host-care.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1k2VwI-0006LR-QF; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 04:35:23 -0400 From: "Valery Smyslov" To: Cc: , Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 11:35:20 +0300 Message-ID: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdZpcAoP7X+We8jjQ2eDOhA0NWjTpQ== Content-Language: ru X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - direct.host-care.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - smyslov.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: direct.host-care.com: authenticated_id: valery@smyslov.net X-Authenticated-Sender: direct.host-care.com: valery@smyslov.net Archived-At: Subject: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 08:35:36 -0000 Hi, this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01. The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are explained in [1]. Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption till 17 august 2020. Regards, Frank & Valery. [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghPcs/ From nobody Mon Aug 3 01:42:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA6D3A0CA2; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 01:42:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.196 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.196 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=orange.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wq1nva5ggHxd; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 01:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-inet.orange.com [80.12.66.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13A253A0C7D; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 01:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfedar04.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.6]) by opfedar22.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 4BKrws474rz3105; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 10:42:21 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=orange.com; s=ORANGE001; t=1596444141; bh=RI7UyQxa1rTnX5w6qS2HBEmjk7psmIxem5tlZnUUKkI=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; b=F2xMYV6CKzVBDgtYD0O0agdeF1/xVyf/ZM/qZjPY8/4QxaTj/LlNLu2WCEIg9fnPx QEfuhWAMvydTWfl5NCSWsqB/kgyl6/oIo6JfmbMfY5TCijBDVbZgGULJ4dqhq5/bS2 wQiiyesjnc9jF73/KJweY9a7V6blRvYWT4HBlfj+ePjG8YdoWKrMCaX7ArjBL6Dh1m mF6VUhhGemJPIkRO2FckILM6JfvY3podhqeP3i6+265qF8VNG9uo2IB0kHmqlreMsi sYWH2nCF2cVnMlawA90w7ixbLQU+OgMSfDt74vFw93xmjBREqpNmOtKvySX9++INbo /OyJJVl7PCwgQ== Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.86]) by opfedar04.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 4BKrws343Tz1xpX; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 10:42:21 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Valery Smyslov , "dots@ietf.org" CC: "dots-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 Thread-Index: AdZpcAoP7X+We8jjQ2eDOhA0NWjTpQAAaPRQ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 08:42:21 +0000 Message-ID: <6839_1596444141_5F27CDED_6839_373_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303150C67B@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> In-Reply-To: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.245] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 08:42:24 -0000 Hi Valery, all,=20 I support this effort.=20 FWIW, I don't have any IPR nor I'm aware of any related to this draft. Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: Valery Smyslov [mailto:valery@smyslov.net] > Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 3 ao=FBt 2020 10:35 > =C0=A0: dots@ietf.org > Cc=A0: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org > Objet=A0: Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair- > dots-rfc8782-bis-01. > The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are > explained in [1]. > Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption > till 17 august 2020. >=20 > Regards, > Frank & Valery. >=20 > [1] > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghPcs > / >=20 ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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From nobody Mon Aug 3 03:00:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C66B3A0D4C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 03:00:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jFH5MFI_R-By for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 03:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.jpshallow.com (mail.jpshallow.com [217.40.240.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8377D3A0D4D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 03:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.jpshallow.com ([192.168.0.3] helo=N01332) by mail.jpshallow.com with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1k2XGG-0006lM-Tp; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 11:00:05 +0100 From: To: , "'Valery Smyslov'" , Cc: , References: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> <6839_1596444141_5F27CDED_6839_373_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303150C67B@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <6839_1596444141_5F27CDED_6839_373_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303150C67B@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 10:59:34 +0100 Message-ID: <360c01d6697c$ca426b60$5ec74220$@jpshallow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG3F5lUdFU2byYDicS1TSqCLe/TNgGydgvlqVc1zzA= Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 10:00:09 -0000 Hi Frank, Valery, all, Likewise I support this effort. I also confirm that I do not have any IPR nor am I personally aware of = any related to this draft. Regards Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > Sent: 03 August 2020 09:42 > To: Valery Smyslov; dots@ietf.org > Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 >=20 > Hi Valery, all, >=20 > I support this effort. >=20 > FWIW, I don't have any IPR nor I'm aware of any related to this draft. >=20 > Cheers, > Med >=20 > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De=A0: Valery Smyslov [mailto:valery@smyslov.net] > > Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 3 ao=FBt 2020 10:35 > > =C0=A0: dots@ietf.org > > Cc=A0: dots-chairs@ietf.org; = draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org > > Objet=A0: Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 > > > > Hi, > > > > this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair- > > dots-rfc8782-bis-01. > > The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are > > explained in [1]. > > Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption > > till 17 august 2020. > > > > Regards, > > Frank & Valery. > > > > [1] > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghP > cs > > / > > >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ > _____ >=20 > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce > message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les = messages > electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, = deforme ou > falsifie. Merci. >=20 > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or = privileged > information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete > this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have = been > modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots From nobody Mon Aug 3 03:23:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B7F3A0DC2 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 03:23:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A4U_J70dTlZF for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 03:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.jpshallow.com (mail.jpshallow.com [217.40.240.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 262B93A0DC1 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 03:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.jpshallow.com ([192.168.0.3] helo=N01332) by mail.jpshallow.com with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1k2XcS-0006me-6f; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 11:23:00 +0100 From: To: , "'Valery Smyslov'" , Cc: , References: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> <6839_1596444141_5F27CDED_6839_373_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303150C67B@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <360c01d6697c$ca426b60$5ec74220$@jpshallow.com> In-Reply-To: <360c01d6697c$ca426b60$5ec74220$@jpshallow.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 11:22:29 +0100 Message-ID: <361401d6697f$fdfb3470$f9f19d50$@jpshallow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG3F5lUdFU2byYDicS1TSqCLe/TNgGydgvlAeY6d4ypSAoZYA== Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 10:23:04 -0000 Hi all, As a FYI, you may find [1] helpful to see the changes with rfc8782. Regards Jon [1] https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Drfc8782&url2=3Ddraft-boucadair-dots-r= fc8782- bis-01 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dots [mailto: dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of supjps-ietf@jpshallow.com > Sent: 03 August 2020 11:00 > To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; 'Valery Smyslov'; dots@ietf.org > Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 >=20 > Hi Frank, Valery, all, >=20 > Likewise I support this effort. >=20 > I also confirm that I do not have any IPR nor am I personally aware of = any > related to this draft. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Jon >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > > Sent: 03 August 2020 09:42 > > To: Valery Smyslov; dots@ietf.org > > Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of > draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 > > > > Hi Valery, all, > > > > I support this effort. > > > > FWIW, I don't have any IPR nor I'm aware of any related to this = draft. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > De=A0: Valery Smyslov [mailto:valery@smyslov.net] > > > Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 3 ao=FBt 2020 10:35 > > > =C0=A0: dots@ietf.org > > > Cc=A0: dots-chairs@ietf.org; = draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org > > > Objet=A0: Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > this message starts a two week call for adoption of = draft-boucadair- > > > dots-rfc8782-bis-01. > > > The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC = are > > > explained in [1]. > > > Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption > > > till 17 august 2020. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Frank & Valery. > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghP > > cs > > > / > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________________ > > _____ > > > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Merci. > > > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or = privileged > > information that may be protected by law; > > they should not be distributed, used or copied without = authorisation. > > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender = and > delete > > this message and its attachments. > > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that = have been > > modified, changed or falsified. > > Thank you. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dots mailing list > > Dots@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots From nobody Mon Aug 3 13:15:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B053A0F65 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:15:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i9ZO3YUXdFuX for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 212523A0906 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kduck.mit.edu ([24.16.140.251]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 073KFEig006920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 3 Aug 2020 16:15:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:15:13 -0700 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Michael Steckler Cc: dots@ietf.org, valery@smyslov.net, frank.xialiang@huawei.com, Philip Reiner , Alexa Wehsener , Alexander Riabov Message-ID: <20200803201513.GF92412@kduck.mit.edu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Request to Display Your Work Externally X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." 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Thank you for your time and attention. > Sincerely, Michael Steckler From nobody Tue Aug 4 08:32:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietf.org Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38273A0A97; Tue, 4 Aug 2020 08:31:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.12.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <159655511685.10150.11467027452308783560@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 08:31:56 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Dots] The DOTS WG has placed draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 15:32:00 -0000 The DOTS WG has placed draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Valery Smyslov) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis/ From nobody Thu Aug 6 04:56:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6E63A0F3D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2020 04:56:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 11:56:13 -0000 I support adoption of the draft.=20 -Tiru > -----Original Message----- > From: Dots On Behalf Of Valery Smyslov > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 2:05 PM > To: dots@ietf.org > Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org > Subject: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 >=20 > CAUTION: External email. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 03:10:51 -0000 --_000_DB8PR01MB56731C7A58BABC5549AFE06CBB490DB8PR01MB5673eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All I support this draft Best wishes and thanks, Ehud Doron | Senior Architect, Radware CTO office | M: +972-54-7575503 | T= : +972-72-3917120 [https://uxilive.co.il/2017/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Radware_Logo_640x480= _trimmed.png] -----Original Message----- From: Dots On Behalf Of Valery Smyslov Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 11:35 AM To: dots@ietf.org Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org Subject: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 Hi, this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rf= c8782-bis-01. The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are explai= ned in [1]. Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption till 17 = august 2020. Regards, Frank & Valery. [1] https://clicktime.symantec.com/3Kd52SdhV1MzDArpdCtTQRi6H2?u=3Dhttps%3A%= 2F%2Fmailarchive.ietf.org%2Farch%2Fmsg%2Fdots%2FZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghPcs= %2F _______________________________________________ Dots mailing list Dots@ietf.org https://clicktime.symantec.com/3R7Buqu9jF3WD2LqKn7yqfG6H2?u=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2= Fwww.ietf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdots --_000_DB8PR01MB56731C7A58BABC5549AFE06CBB490DB8PR01MB5673eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All
 
I support this draft
 
Best wishes and thanks,
 
Ehud Doron |  Senior Architect, Radw= are CTO office | M: +972-54-7575503 | T: +972-72-3917120
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dots <dots-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Valery Smyslov
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 11:35 AM
To: dots@ietf.org
Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org
Subject: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01
 
Hi,
 
this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair-do= ts-rfc8782-bis-01.
The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are e= xplained in [1].
Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption til= l 17 august 2020.
 
Regards,
Frank & Valery.
 
 
 
____= ___________________________________________
Dots mailing list
 
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H= i Valery, all,

I support&nb= sp;adopt= ion of the draft.

Meiling,
Thanks.
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Date: 2020-0= 8-03 16:35
Subject:<= /b> [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01
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this messag= e starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-= 01.
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The reasons we so urgently need to update the just publis= hed RFC are explained in [1].
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Please, review the draft and se= nd your opinions about its adoption till 17 august 2020.
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Regards,
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Frank & Valery.
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------=_001_NextPart010503517165_=------ From nobody Thu Aug 6 20:49:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D303A0CE6; Thu, 6 Aug 2020 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Obd1wNqYRQei; Thu, 6 Aug 2020 20:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBEF53A0C40; Thu, 6 Aug 2020 20:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml705-chm.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 0F4358460D06A44DC3F0; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 04:49:06 +0100 (IST) Received: from nkgeml706-chm.china.huawei.com (10.98.57.153) by lhreml705-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.54) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1913.5; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 04:49:05 +0100 Received: from nkgeml705-chm.china.huawei.com (10.98.57.154) by nkgeml706-chm.china.huawei.com (10.98.57.153) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.1913.5; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:49:02 +0800 Received: from nkgeml705-chm.china.huawei.com ([10.98.57.154]) by nkgeml705-chm.china.huawei.com ([10.98.57.154]) with mapi id 15.01.1913.007; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:49:02 +0800 From: "Panwei (William)" To: Valery Smyslov , "dots@ietf.org" CC: "dots-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 Thread-Index: AdZpcAoP7X+We8jjQ2eDOhA0NWjTpQC/YS5g Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 03:49:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> In-Reply-To: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.164.120.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 03:49:10 -0000 Hi Valery, all, I support adoption of the draft. Regards & Thanks! Wei Pan > -----Original Message----- > From: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Valery Smyslov > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 4:35 PM > To: dots@ietf.org > Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org > Subject: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > this message starts a two week call for adoption of > draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01. > The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are > explained in [1]. > Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption till 1= 7 > august 2020. >=20 > Regards, > Frank & Valery. >=20 > [1] > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMgh > Pcs/ >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots From nobody Thu Aug 6 21:13:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096493A0E32; 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Best regards, Takahiko Nagata On 2020/08/03 17:35, Valery Smyslov wrote: > Hi, > > this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01. > The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are explained in [1]. > Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption till 17 august 2020. > > Regards, > Frank & Valery. > > [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghPcs/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > From nobody Fri Aug 7 23:22:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A0D3A0DF2; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 23:22:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IEkbVmlI3KiA; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 23:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oo1-xc34.google.com (mail-oo1-xc34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DA283A0DF1; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 23:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oo1-xc34.google.com with SMTP id z11so877095oon.5; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 23:22:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ODF2m33eOREUjmcS1Eq5z2CYHzAkL6B8iCulau9D3KY=; b=Fl/+Kz/Q69n/FIh+6RzyTCFNMHvl0M7MTjAzoKpNshsp3kENvLNdKTzweYSTZ9ddpM QsfZ1TbKl0JRu9bj3LX2B6cT2KFavOMh1WzYxrT49PIAjp4D7NXpJvTOEy+kbqTN7V9h pz5xbU5wGqzGQ7VMPgnhVhfHoQvNbvMLqyKAhbSiMnEHTIwiZiE8e6/Q45+5QI708+Qa JSaoL3efJOD/9BgJ814wu1s6MPuW+FmdoIHDfSje/rpwmG8gGhkUEbUjceQ9YBNyB8jK YL0/Z1BqSZIXOM80NXw4Dn5y6nZaq+lg+fehJW2zOeKcPDNhJHQn9Cq9xV6LxNWo0FzP ZVRg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ODF2m33eOREUjmcS1Eq5z2CYHzAkL6B8iCulau9D3KY=; b=VjfM9WCr5w3NvvpxdOvj1RBPDwSCzfQ/UwbKRQ6BOjl6bG7ZC61wwcCkYPCoaHc4Y3 XFpEFku2pGBNsVgKB0y4im9NnX6ySvKGWdVpcGsuRY56ly/xjcVccW8Dp84Rng+QF7WW MGYqyMqjAfrO0do6V65gMhgTF1BnZmFQfBVvnzb/HoVVed+xNA7hKHSfrWtO6o++MkmU fYV5GGfb7smVXipLEuunB39tJQrmozFnhxOPzlVfvtraK03csvEOOzFGlxrEjQWM5Arq F3IcAUgyOKtFDGRQldwI0fYmUyvbUt11cImj7pFjCgGuNYX09w2p6yP+gNIS5twAC5Rp Yx/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53152beQWZX7SDqAvFWDCrGShUFq4v99fpN9WWjtBqbf1TrbyF7W p7G7Ad6Uc8giKia9DpgreZDXqQEk8I3wH9BEgioYX+2V X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0FgkSFY1d351f9XhK+8ecyHMAs44tJYIKDCLq3KiG2TJO0QI5M8dlw+lPMy8+Mpb7n5oiPfKdLRwZIKmmAXk= X-Received: by 2002:a4a:d2d8:: with SMTP id j24mr16011992oos.82.1596867739207; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 23:22:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> In-Reply-To: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> From: H Y Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:22:08 +0900 Message-ID: To: Valery Smyslov Cc: dots , dots-chairs@ietf.org, draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." 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Best regards, Yuhei 2020=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=883=E6=97=A5(=E6=9C=88) 17:35 Valery Smyslov : > > Hi, > > this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-= rfc8782-bis-01. > The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are expl= ained in [1]. > Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption till 1= 7 august 2020. > > Regards, > Frank & Valery. > > [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghPc= s/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots --=20 ---------------------------------- Yuuhei HAYASHI 08065300884 yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com iehuuy_0220@docomo.ne.jp ---------------------------------- From nobody Wed Aug 12 19:57:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AEE3A15D6; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:56:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 08:17:00 -0000 I support adoption of the draft. Regards, Kaname Nishizuka On 2020/08/06 20:54, Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy wrote: > I support adoption of the draft. > > -Tiru > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dots On Behalf Of Valery Smyslov >> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 2:05 PM >> To: dots@ietf.org >> Cc: dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis@ietf.org >> Subject: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 >> >> CAUTION: External email. Do not click links or open attachments unless you >> recognize the sender and know the content is safe. >> >> Hi, >> >> this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots- >> rfc8782-bis-01. >> The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are >> explained in [1]. >> Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption till 17 >> august 2020. >> >> Regards, >> Frank & Valery. >> >> [1] >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghP >> cs/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dots mailing list >> Dots@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots From nobody Mon Aug 17 22:27:08 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CE53A1770; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:26:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tY2_E5KLhga2; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 412303A176E; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id C5FCFF40783; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:26:11 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, dots@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20200818052611.C5FCFF40783@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [Dots] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8811_on_DDoS_Open_Threat_Signaling_=28DOTS?= =?utf-8?q?=29_Architecture?= X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 05:26:29 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8811 Title: DDoS Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Architecture Author: A. Mortensen, Ed., T. Reddy.K, Ed., F. Andreasen, N. Teague, R. Compton Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date: August 2020 Mailbox: andrewmortensen@gmail.com, kondtir@gmail.com, fandreas@cisco.com, nteague@ironmountain.co.uk, rich.compton@charter.com Pages: 29 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-dots-architecture-18.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8811 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8811 This document describes an architecture for establishing and maintaining Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) within and between domains. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Tue Aug 18 00:00:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8613A17DA; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:00:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=smyslov.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c9BnVT3lUmyW; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from direct.host-care.com (direct.host-care.com [198.136.54.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACEB13A0A2D; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:00:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smyslov.net ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RV8aNaSYFyH2P200L+2qVZhfknO/+mLO321+E8KTGLE=; b=BmSNZDPRkB1sIIt5LxwZ9vH1WF 6mCmhC2Of35GeBFjYsE6e7MYgfHosEQwYpHfLaYfAnXOSVcXrrcz9BeN+RrDDGpvZ+3XXcRcfZON5 FP7P1jb/SYYgcEqZnhxNuO4wNxlLePtaJ/8dfHBKLa4qJgldCbBCTteDJ/HzOxP0Z6JC1QmSbWrNE 9egh9LjgOB52znVIBDjcrbtCNkk8BVNQh4j4IkEkBrutBFjz7WCSPPSabpMto/UAFM91+6i357EDQ vwuG8RS89PEmhmqWXzOfPbdC6OJpSHTSEMF0Q+zgp1iwyav6iomAURGlsKRKWRjeds3wOSAbCojg9 olBbC2xg==; Received: from [82.138.51.3] (port=1629 helo=buildpc) by direct.host-care.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1k7vbQ-0001wk-IN; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 03:00:12 -0400 From: "Valery Smyslov" To: Cc: , References: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> In-Reply-To: <17f401d66971$08143010$183c9030$@smyslov.net> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:00:11 +0300 Message-ID: <038d01d6752d$3950c0e0$abf242a0$@smyslov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG3F5lUdFU2byYDicS1TSqCLe/TNql8KdzA Content-Language: ru X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - direct.host-care.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - smyslov.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: direct.host-care.com: authenticated_id: valery@smyslov.net X-Authenticated-Sender: direct.host-care.com: valery@smyslov.net Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 07:00:16 -0000 Hi, the support of adoption the draft was solid, so the draft is adopted. Authors, please re-submit it as WG document. Regards, Frank & Valery. > Hi, > > this message starts a two week call for adoption of draft-boucadair-dots-rfc8782-bis-01. > The reasons we so urgently need to update the just published RFC are explained in [1]. > Please, review the draft and send your opinions about its adoption till 17 august 2020. > > Regards, > Frank & Valery. > > [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dots/ZbhIv5ozegEkzSSGGMvaUMghPcs/ From nobody Tue Aug 18 04:07:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietf.org Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A70A3A0811; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 04:07:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: dots@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.14.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dots@ietf.org Message-ID: <159774885713.10211.5341151302930796088@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 04:07:37 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 11:07:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the DDoS Open Threat Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Signal Channel Specification Authors : Mohamed Boucadair Jon Shallow Tirumaleswar Reddy.K Filename : draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt Pages : 119 Date : 2020-08-18 Abstract: This document specifies the Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) signal channel, a protocol for signaling the need for protection against Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) attacks to a server capable of enabling network traffic mitigation on behalf of the requesting client. A companion document defines the DOTS data channel, a separate reliable communication layer for DOTS management and configuration purposes. This document obsoletes RFC 8782. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 07:06:20 -0000 Hi, according to the roadmap we discussed for the replacement of RFC 8782, we are going to request yangdoctors and opsdir reviews for the just adopted draft to double check that all the changes in YANG module are fine with them. We are going to issue WGLC shortly after the reviews are complete. Regards, Frank & Valery. > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the DDoS Open Threat Signaling WG of the IETF. > > Title : Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Signal Channel Specification > Authors : Mohamed Boucadair > Jon Shallow > Tirumaleswar Reddy.K > Filename : draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt > Pages : 119 > Date : 2020-08-18 > > Abstract: > This document specifies the Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat > Signaling (DOTS) signal channel, a protocol for signaling the need > for protection against Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) attacks > to a server capable of enabling network traffic mitigation on behalf > of the requesting client. > > A companion document defines the DOTS data channel, a separate > reliable communication layer for DOTS management and configuration > purposes. > > This document obsoletes RFC 8782. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots From nobody Mon Aug 24 00:27:37 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDB93A0B46 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 00:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.148 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.148 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.948, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nttv6.jp Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id na6KzbSkt4_g for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 00:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guri.nttv6.jp (guri.nttv6.jp [115.69.228.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C719D3A0B45 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 00:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z.nttv6.jp (z.nttv6.jp [192.168.8.15]) by guri.nttv6.jp (NTTv6MTA) with ESMTP id 81E1F25F6BB; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:27:31 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nttv6.jp; s=20180820; t=1598254051; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=wSuguoUEQeo8I1avRwjE892clCklb+Do9TVHai/ySbs=; b=p+xZFipKgaabLG9FGLZ/WAAjHX85OdYAXlKZEXrsoaEv9qazTHrZSEUa58WAf+drlk9f1J XSM5cGRW6fEEcRjelpwq8Cij0w+n21PIPIUnBVmg3ZbSSMhsKoghnaVF90wAkrDxg1/bZB q2v/WLBP11STgjp/BU3MsHY1oOT85m8= Received: from UG023-kaname.local (fujiko.nttv6.jp [IPv6:2402:c800:ff06:136::141]) by z.nttv6.jp (NTTv6MTA) with ESMTP id 4072175907D; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:27:30 +0900 (JST) To: Valery Smyslov , dots@ietf.org References: <159774885713.10211.5341151302930796088@ietfa.amsl.com> <04af01d675f7$3cedd600$b6c98200$@smyslov.net> From: kaname nishizuka Message-ID: <7239960d-0de3-801a-dd9f-e82b93580ae9@nttv6.jp> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:27:30 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <04af01d675f7$3cedd600$b6c98200$@smyslov.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 07:27:36 -0000 Hi Med, all. `attack-status` is now under server-to-client-only in RFC8782 bis, but I just want to clarify whether it's correct. In 4.4.3, it is said:    The 'attack-status' parameter is a mandatory attribute when    performing an efficacy update.  The various possible values contained    in the 'attack-status' parameter are described in Table 4.             +-----------+-------------------------------------+             | Parameter | Description                         |             |     Value |                                     |             +===========+=====================================+             |         1 | The DOTS client determines that it  |             |           | is still under attack.              |             +-----------+-------------------------------------+             |         2 | The DOTS client determines that the |             |           | attack is successfully mitigated    |             |           | (e.g., attack traffic is not seen). |             +-----------+-------------------------------------+                 Table 4: Values of 'attack-status' Parameter regards, Kaname Nishizuka On 2020/08/19 16:06, Valery Smyslov wrote: > Hi, > > according to the roadmap we discussed for the replacement > of RFC 8782, we are going to request yangdoctors > and opsdir reviews for the just adopted draft to double check > that all the changes in YANG module are fine with them. > We are going to issue WGLC shortly after the reviews are complete. > > Regards, > Frank & Valery. > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the DDoS Open Threat Signaling WG of the IETF. >> >> Title : Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Signal Channel Specification >> Authors : Mohamed Boucadair >> Jon Shallow >> Tirumaleswar Reddy.K >> Filename : draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt >> Pages : 119 >> Date : 2020-08-18 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies the Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat >> Signaling (DOTS) signal channel, a protocol for signaling the need >> for protection against Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) attacks >> to a server capable of enabling network traffic mitigation on behalf >> of the requesting client. >> >> A companion document defines the DOTS data channel, a separate >> reliable communication layer for DOTS management and configuration >> purposes. >> >> This document obsoletes RFC 8782. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dots mailing list >> Dots@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots From nobody Mon Aug 24 06:05:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3CE3A0DAF for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 06:05:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OS9LwZLCc4_v for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 06:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.jpshallow.com (mail.jpshallow.com [217.40.240.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 234D13A0CFF for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 06:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.jpshallow.com ([192.168.0.3] helo=N01332) by mail.jpshallow.com with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1kACAT-0002I5-8P; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:05:45 +0100 From: "Jon Shallow" To: "'kaname nishizuka'" , , "Valery Smyslov" References: <159774885713.10211.5341151302930796088@ietfa.amsl.com> <04af01d675f7$3cedd600$b6c98200$@smyslov.net> <7239960d-0de3-801a-dd9f-e82b93580ae9@nttv6.jp> In-Reply-To: <7239960d-0de3-801a-dd9f-e82b93580ae9@nttv6.jp> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:05:39 +0100 Message-ID: <163901d67a17$440b5c40$cc2214c0$@jpshallow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFlFbIRFtKZ/EtTi8c9PYs3hY/wigDAQ88tAhCoxESqE3oMMA== Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:05:54 -0000 Hi Kaname, Well spotted! I agree that=20 leaf attack-status { type iana-signal:attack-status; description "Indicates the status of an attack as seen by the DOTS client."; } Should be moved up to just after (in the yang definition = ietf-dots-signal-channel@2020-07-02.yang) leaf trigger-mitigation { type boolean; default "true"; description "If set to 'false', DDoS mitigation will not be triggered unless the DOTS signal channel session is lost."; } And will get corrected. Regards Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Dots [mailto: dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of kaname = nishizuka > Sent: 24 August 2020 08:28 > To: Valery Smyslov; dots@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt >=20 > Hi Med, all. >=20 > `attack-status` is now under server-to-client-only in RFC8782 bis, but = I just > want to clarify whether it's correct. >=20 > In 4.4.3, it is said: > The 'attack-status' parameter is a mandatory attribute when > performing an efficacy update. The various possible values = contained > in the 'attack-status' parameter are described in Table 4. > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ > | Parameter | Description | > | Value | | > = +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+= > | 1 | The DOTS client determines that it | > | | is still under attack. | > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ > | 2 | The DOTS client determines that the | > | | attack is successfully mitigated | > | | (e.g., attack traffic is not seen). | > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ >=20 > Table 4: Values of 'attack-status' Parameter >=20 >=20 > regards, > Kaname Nishizuka >=20 >=20 > On 2020/08/19 16:06, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > Hi, > > > > according to the roadmap we discussed for the replacement > > of RFC 8782, we are going to request yangdoctors > > and opsdir reviews for the just adopted draft to double check > > that all the changes in YANG module are fine with them. > > We are going to issue WGLC shortly after the reviews are complete. > > > > Regards, > > Frank & Valery. > > > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the DDoS Open Threat Signaling WG of = the > IETF. > >> > >> Title : Distributed Denial-of-Service Open = Threat Signaling > (DOTS) Signal Channel Specification > >> Authors : Mohamed Boucadair > >> Jon Shallow > >> Tirumaleswar Reddy.K > >> Filename : draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt > >> Pages : 119 > >> Date : 2020-08-18 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> This document specifies the Distributed Denial-of-Service Open = Threat > >> Signaling (DOTS) signal channel, a protocol for signaling the = need > >> for protection against Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) = attacks > >> to a server capable of enabling network traffic mitigation on = behalf > >> of the requesting client. > >> > >> A companion document defines the DOTS data channel, a separate > >> reliable communication layer for DOTS management and = configuration > >> purposes. > >> > >> This document obsoletes RFC 8782. > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis/ > >> > >> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 > >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Dots mailing list > >> Dots@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > _______________________________________________ > > Dots mailing list > > Dots@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots From nobody Wed Aug 26 01:30:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4337A3A0B5B for ; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 08:30:42 -0000 Hi all, The draft will expire soon so I will ask this topic again. I'd like to discuss how to move forward with the draft. Please tell me your preference, or other options if any. Thanks, Yuhei 2020=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=8813=E6=97=A5(=E5=9C=9F) 16:55 H Y : > > Hi all, > > We submitted DOTS telemetry use case draft based on comments from WG at I= ETF106. > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-106-dots/ > > We considered some options on how to move forward with the draft as below= . > > Opt 1. Require WG adoption after addressing comments from WG. > Opt 2. Add a high-level use case description to the DOTS Telemetry > draft. (e.g. Appendix) > > We prefer Opt 1, but no problem with Opt 2. > Please tell me your preference, or other options if any. > > Thanks, > Yuhei > > -- > ---------------------------------- > Yuuhei HAYASHI > 08065300884 > yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com > iehuuy_0220@docomo.ne.jp > ---------------------------------- --=20 ---------------------------------- Yuuhei HAYASHI 08065300884 yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com iehuuy_0220@docomo.ne.jp ---------------------------------- From nobody Wed Aug 26 20:46:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4413A0BEB for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:46:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FZevFCVh0uzK for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B19A63A0C47 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml704-chm.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 01BAAD6F22EAA106DE34; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 04:46:16 +0100 (IST) Received: from nkgeml709-chm.china.huawei.com (10.98.57.40) by lhreml704-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.53) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1913.5; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 04:46:15 +0100 Received: from nkgeml705-chm.china.huawei.com (10.98.57.154) by nkgeml709-chm.china.huawei.com (10.98.57.40) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.1913.5; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:46:13 +0800 Received: from nkgeml705-chm.china.huawei.com ([10.98.57.154]) by nkgeml705-chm.china.huawei.com ([10.98.57.154]) with mapi id 15.01.1913.007; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:46:13 +0800 From: "Panwei (William)" To: H Y , dots Thread-Topic: [Dots] Options on how to move forward with telemetry use case draft Thread-Index: AQHWe4NI0zgFo2HpP0SNsNG3YCyd2alLUbbA Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 03:46:12 +0000 Message-ID: <0a63923613a94423b565aeebe48cfb48@huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.136.99.125] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Options on how to move forward with telemetry use case draft X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 07:44:02 -0000 Hi, after discussion with Yuhei we decided to issue a call for adoption of draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 as a WG document. Note, that the chairs have an opinion, that the DOTS WG has already published quite a lot of informational documents, describing DOTS requirements, architecture, use cases. We think that having one more auxiliary document that describes use cases only for an optional feature of DOTS (telemetry) is not fully justified and it's probably better to merge telemetry use cases draft with telemetry I-D. We think that for implementers it's generally easier to look into a single document, than to find a separate one describing use cases. Another consideration is that if a separate document is adopted, then the processing of the telemetry I-D will probably have to be slow down until the telemetry use cases draft is ready, so that they are sent to publication together (in this case the telemetry draft will have a steady reference to RFC and not to I-D). On the other hand, discussion on last DOTS meeting and on the list indicated that quite a lot of people in the WG prefer to have telemetry use cases as a separate document, instead of merging it with the telemetry draft. The concerns were expressed that telemetry draft is already a long document and authors don't want to make it longer. So, this message start a two weeks call for adoption of draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 that will end 11 September. Please, respond to the list with your preference among 2 options: 1. Adopt this draft as a separate document describing DOTS telemetry use cases. 2. Don't adopt this draft and merge its content into the draft-ietf-dots-telemetry instead. We'll be very much appreciated if you also give reasoning for your choice. Regards, Frank & Valery. From nobody Thu Aug 27 00:46:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietf.org Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0586C3A0E39; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 00:46:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <159851436495.28899.17369668772745050845@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 00:46:05 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Dots] The DOTS WG has placed draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 07:46:05 -0000 The DOTS WG has placed draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Valery Smyslov) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases/ From nobody Thu Aug 27 02:25:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44A23A08CF for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 02:25:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.096 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=orange.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id blOQuxe6behN for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 02:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-inet.orange.com [80.12.70.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEC5D3A0859 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 02:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfednr02.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.66]) by opfednr22.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 4Bcclw2hXgzyXZ; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:25:48 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=orange.com; s=ORANGE001; t=1598520348; bh=bf2bfJ47feipaOmX0xWhabjJbVk5DhPDXti8+cgyUeo=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; b=sG4RwM2BnqRxTWaWhqqil0JFcK/vHzw2VAchAxl2UIlpUvUPHr42Ch9QiUu7gUKax LktbsVLJKKpeJkzMn11ySmTWjegyTYSgF5B7SAjL//jnwAGLiUSfoy1mGe7qFBzMmK pLE5HAS2d4tgHu44sWqqH9cNy3PRIaC3ku+dMcGiMwmrNbNycfW1DWwEcjQJszzhER wD0NzpmptvkDG0kIVlaCM2nXo6j4ymkeFZDto0UpZjFCq7zvSJ6ZZT46HMUkEKN4vg mLodM7VJD1Sf3ntKyk9DbxjR6LUOAq5jeAIR3+ja8oD/A3AhAYuYQ3skYh51cqIwuf VxDQNix8UQtjw== Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.107]) by opfednr02.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 4Bcclw1r2Vz8sfv; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:25:48 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Jon Shallow , 'kaname nishizuka' , "dots@ietf.org" , Valery Smyslov Thread-Topic: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHWeegPP0+YIEK9PUOSmxMawBQ6LKlHGS+AgASZdQA= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:25:47 +0000 Message-ID: <19614_1598520348_5F477C1C_19614_44_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031525C28@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <159774885713.10211.5341151302930796088@ietfa.amsl.com> <04af01d675f7$3cedd600$b6c98200$@smyslov.net> <7239960d-0de3-801a-dd9f-e82b93580ae9@nttv6.jp> <163901d67a17$440b5c40$cc2214c0$@jpshallow.com> In-Reply-To: <163901d67a17$440b5c40$cc2214c0$@jpshallow.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.245] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:25:53 -0000 Hi all, Yes, this should be fixed. The updated tree would look like:=20 OLD:=20 | +-- (direction)? | +--:(server-to-client-only) | ... | +-- attack-status? | iana-signal:attack-status NEW: | +-- (direction)? | +--:(server-to-client-only) | | ... | +--:(client-to-server-only) | +-- attack-status? | iana-signal:attack-status Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Jon Shallow > Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 24 ao=FBt 2020 15:06 > =C0=A0: 'kaname nishizuka' ; dots@ietf.org; Valery > Smyslov > Objet=A0: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt >=20 > Hi Kaname, >=20 > Well spotted! >=20 > I agree that >=20 > leaf attack-status { > type iana-signal:attack-status; > description > "Indicates the status of an attack as seen by the > DOTS client."; > } > Should be moved up to just after (in the yang definition ietf-dots- > signal-channel@2020-07-02.yang) > leaf trigger-mitigation { > type boolean; > default "true"; > description > "If set to 'false', DDoS mitigation will not be > triggered unless the DOTS signal channel > session is lost."; > } >=20 > And will get corrected. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Jon >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dots [mailto: dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of kaname > > nishizuka > > Sent: 24 August 2020 08:28 > > To: Valery Smyslov; dots@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt > > > > Hi Med, all. > > > > `attack-status` is now under server-to-client-only in RFC8782 bis, > but > > I just want to clarify whether it's correct. > > > > In 4.4.3, it is said: > > The 'attack-status' parameter is a mandatory attribute when > > performing an efficacy update. The various possible values > contained > > in the 'attack-status' parameter are described in Table 4. > > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ > > | Parameter | Description | > > | Value | | > > +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ > > | 1 | The DOTS client determines that it | > > | | is still under attack. | > > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ > > | 2 | The DOTS client determines that the | > > | | attack is successfully mitigated | > > | | (e.g., attack traffic is not seen). | > > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ > > > > Table 4: Values of 'attack-status' Parameter > > > > > > regards, > > Kaname Nishizuka > > > > > > On 2020/08/19 16:06, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > according to the roadmap we discussed for the replacement of RFC > > > 8782, we are going to request yangdoctors and opsdir reviews for > the > > > just adopted draft to double check that all the changes in YANG > > > module are fine with them. > > > We are going to issue WGLC shortly after the reviews are complete. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Frank & Valery. > > > > > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet- > Drafts > > directories. > > >> This draft is a work item of the DDoS Open Threat Signaling WG of > > >> the > > IETF. > > >> > > >> Title : Distributed Denial-of-Service Open > Threat Signaling > > (DOTS) Signal Channel Specification > > >> Authors : Mohamed Boucadair > > >> Jon Shallow > > >> Tirumaleswar Reddy.K > > >> Filename : draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt > > >> Pages : 119 > > >> Date : 2020-08-18 > > >> > > >> Abstract: > > >> This document specifies the Distributed Denial-of-Service > Open Threat > > >> Signaling (DOTS) signal channel, a protocol for signaling the > need > > >> for protection against Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) > attacks > > >> to a server capable of enabling network traffic mitigation on > behalf > > >> of the requesting client. > > >> > > >> A companion document defines the DOTS data channel, a > separate > > >> reliable communication layer for DOTS management and > configuration > > >> purposes. > > >> > > >> This document obsoletes RFC 8782. > > >> > > >> > > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis/ > > >> > > >> There are also htmlized versions available at: > > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782- > bis-0 > > >> 0 > > >> > > >> > > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > submission > > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > >> > > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Dots mailing list > > >> Dots@ietf.org > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Dots mailing list > > > Dots@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dots mailing list > > Dots@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:44:48 -0000 Hi Valery, all,=20 (1) We do already have in the telemetry I-D some text to describe the main uses= of the DOTS telemetry. Nevertheless, that text does not intend to be exhau= stive nor to dive into more details to describe how to put the various piec= es together.=20 (2) I do see a value in having a document that discusses in more details how to= play with DOTS telemetry. draft-hayashi-* can be such document. The docum= ent can be updated with pieces that are already in the telemetry draft. I s= upport thus this draft to be adopted.=20 (3) As a support document (https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/su= pport-documents/), we don't need to publish it as an RFC. We can decide abo= ut that once the document is more mature. (4) >From the assessment shared by the authors of draft-hayashi-* in the past, I= remember that they indicated that their use cases are met with the attribu= tes specified in the telemetry I-D.=20 Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Valery Smyslov > Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 27 ao=FBt 2020 09:44 > =C0=A0: dots@ietf.org > Cc=A0: dots-chairs@ietf.org; H Y ; draft- > hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org > Objet=A0: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use- > cases-00 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > after discussion with Yuhei we decided to issue a call for adoption of > draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 as a WG document. >=20 > Note, that the chairs have an opinion, that the DOTS WG has already > published quite a lot of informational documents, describing DOTS > requirements, architecture, use cases. > We think that having one more auxiliary document that describes use > cases only for an optional feature of DOTS > (telemetry) is not fully justified and it's probably better to merge > telemetry use cases draft with telemetry I-D. > We think that for implementers it's generally easier to look into a > single document, than to find a separate one describing use cases. > Another consideration is that if a separate document is adopted, then > the processing of the telemetry I-D will probably have to be slow down > until the telemetry use cases draft is ready, so that they are sent to > publication together (in this case the telemetry draft will have a > steady reference to RFC and not to I-D). >=20 > On the other hand, discussion on last DOTS meeting and on the list > indicated that quite a lot of people in the WG prefer to have > telemetry use cases as a separate document, instead of merging it with > the telemetry draft. The concerns were expressed that telemetry draft > is already a long document and authors don't want to make it longer. >=20 > So, this message start a two weeks call for adoption of > draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 that will end 11 September. > Please, respond to the list with your preference among 2 options: >=20 > 1. Adopt this draft as a separate document describing DOTS telemetry > use cases. > 2. Don't adopt this draft and merge its content into the draft-ietf- > dots-telemetry instead. >=20 > We'll be very much appreciated if you also give reasoning for your > choice. >=20 > Regards, > Frank & Valery. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Dots mailing list > Dots@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. 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From nobody Fri Aug 28 02:43:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107763A079F; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:43:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.888 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I4iI4HgoYNa8; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmccmta2.chinamobile.com (cmccmta2.chinamobile.com [221.176.66.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3322C3A0763; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.121.15]) by rmmx-syy-dmz-app05-12005 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee55f48d19d54d-8542c; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:42:55 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee55f48d19d54d-8542c X-RM-TagInfo: emlType=0 X-RM-SPAM-FLAG: 00000000 Received: from cmcc-PC (unknown[120.244.166.152]) by rmsmtp-syy-appsvr08-12008 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee85f48d19bcaf-7e2ab; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:42:55 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee85f48d19bcaf-7e2ab Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:43:02 +0800 From: "Meiling Chen" To: mohamed.boucadair , "Valery Smyslov" , dots Cc: dots-chairs , "H Y" , "draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org" References: <0be401d67c45$d4381080$7ca83180$@smyslov.net>, <1386_1598521484_5F47808C_1386_165_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031525C84@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.2.9.115[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2020082817430162664611@chinamobile.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart654664054730_=----" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." 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Hi all,
I do= agree with med, telemetry use cases are met with the attributes= specified in the telemetry I-D.
use case provide more pr= actical considerations for the use of telemetry atrributes.

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I support this draft to be adopted by WG and make it more matur= e.

Best,
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Date: 2020-08-27 17:44
CC: <= a href=3D"mailto:dots-chairs@ietf.org">dots-chairs@ietf.org; H Y; draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-ca= ses@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Dots] Call for adopti= on of draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00
Hi Valery, all,
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We do already have in the telemetry I-D some text to describ= e the main uses of the DOTS telemetry. Nevertheless, that text does not in= tend to be exhaustive nor to dive into more details to describe how to put= the various pieces together.
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I do see a value in having a document that dis= cusses in more details how to play with DOTS telemetry. draft-hayashi-*&nb= sp; can be such document. The document can be updated with pieces that are= already in the telemetry draft. I support thus this draft to be adopted. =
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As = a support document (https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/supp= ort-documents/), we don't need to publish it as an RFC. We can decide abou= t that once the document is more mature.
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>From the assessment shared by the= authors of draft-hayashi-* in the past, I remember that they indicated th= at their use cases are met with the attributes specified in the telemetry = I-D.
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Cheers,
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> -----Message d'origine-----
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> = De : Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Valery Smyslov=
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> Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 27 ao=C3=BBt 2020 09:44
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> =C3=80 : dots@ietf.org
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> Cc : dots-= chairs@ietf.org; H Y <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com>; draft-
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> Objet&nb= sp;: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-
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> cases-00
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> Hi,
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> after discussion with Yuhei we decided to issue = a call for adoption of
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> draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-= cases-00 as a WG document.
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> Note, that= the chairs have an opinion, that the DOTS WG has already
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>= ; published quite a lot of informational documents, describing DOTS
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> requirements, architecture, use cases.
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> We t= hink that having one more auxiliary document that describes use
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> (tele= metry) is not fully justified and it's probably better to merge
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> We= think that for implementers it's generally easier to look into a
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> single document, than to find a separate one describing use case= s.
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> Another consideration is that if a separate document = is adopted, then
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> the processing of the telemetry I-D wil= l probably have to be slow down
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> until the telemetry use = cases draft is ready, so that they are sent to
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> publicati= on together (in this case the telemetry draft will  have a
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> On the other hand, discussion on last DOTS meeting and on the= list
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> indicated that quite a lot of people in the WG pre= fer to have
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> telemetry use cases as a separate document, = instead of merging it with
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> the telemetry draft. The conc= erns were expressed that telemetry draft
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> is already a lo= ng document and authors don't want to make it longer.
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> So, this message start a two weeks call for adoption of=0A
> draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 that will end 1= 1 September.
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> Please, respond to the list with your prefe= rence among 2 options:
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> 1. Adopt this = draft as a separate document describing DOTS telemetry
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> u= se cases.
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> 2. Don't adopt this draft and merge its conten= t into the draft-ietf-
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> dots-telemetry instead.
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> We'll be very much appreciated if you also giv= e reasoning for your
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> Regards,
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> Frank & Valery.
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=0A ------=_001_NextPart654664054730_=------ From nobody Sun Aug 30 17:52:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAABC3A0BE9; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wP-kJ0gE0sNs; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-x335.google.com (mail-ot1-x335.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::335]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3ADEB3A0BE6; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x335.google.com with SMTP id e23so4128011otk.7; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:52:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7SXEXzTKLP9WxMqe1sZYgsnOZWVT5buhBnATqoAK6aM=; b=eVfhq7RN8PatgCBZf6nm9eT/r1Qjs6KbWRR84tKHHiWEi/WU5u1GmnDQg1IVZzFXqH X5jeKmsz25SXh4/PkyqOCdpcMC8uT5ERHWfbz4cDvZwWI7ZIkbl9UZWCnbNCmnjIngAs ebHlgA23SBdiIuT1XYTU26N3wjDmgwEvBgZvipad1Z6TOjnSyApmfqSUpUiHTquxSaQ6 GWZOl8ufmTmhangWWTRQlghPZ/47ws7vVAlgX2YqFVyomlr+3iFvBDhMQsCLSkBK1HXS FUfZS2CCcW/QJvzG3MVhXo+oc0HKyr+/YS3ccjjXOxzeDZOx1OuXy5m62jG9lTf3nXc2 gC1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7SXEXzTKLP9WxMqe1sZYgsnOZWVT5buhBnATqoAK6aM=; b=qAKso6i+Qen1NHaMAVd1oc8QqOvLZLPNAfE1wcGofD5ENcZ0QlKjHt4W1CPSz/DAuE WkZEb6K0OEvSm1HET5aqhukJkKfP/nLHSqsV2P2gGw7IajPOLKKUVIbMNAjiIzq9NOF7 OaLENV1/Y+DZNFU8lYEvoNOZdpBHCijUduycH4EXFNK35oOi72b8vfH97DdMgogCCP/4 KkuQdi506xxnr0aTR1YjdyRHmKSH1oAqh0lW1kOVAlseIIIIwMDiRTwufqaBGER/kW5J Q+Mu6rN1eEqTIexba4WeCwzW5Y4zj85qtwSyZE4dCrbX8fEDGTIQ7hbkbm9bjX/6nG8V I+VA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5332sD9jX0SBcOjgphd+s43aI3p2vyHePpvG5tR0hKk8b1Du4E2p nM0LOAI08PYb/IoF2GxVS4dt29TTNdBZoYzOmO8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxbxl1KkTQaRO66PThYsfQMYRg5aMC/IqkiR8pBsK7Nm4tN0L9+SHhWMd9LxU1tjY96mpyMBk0EKOqkNTUXCJs= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:12f2:: with SMTP id g105mr4223895otg.41.1598835159325; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:52:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0be401d67c45$d4381080$7ca83180$@smyslov.net> <1386_1598521484_5F47808C_1386_165_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031525C84@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <1386_1598521484_5F47808C_1386_165_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031525C84@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: H Y Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:52:27 +0900 Message-ID: To: Mohamed Boucadair , "dots@ietf.org" Cc: Valery Smyslov , "dots-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 00:52:42 -0000 Hi Med, all, Thank you for your comments. > (3) > As a support document (https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/= support-documents/), we don't need to publish it as an RFC. We can decide a= bout that once the document is more mature. IMO, it seems like a good option so far because the option relieves the consideration or the concerns. > Another consideration is that if a separate document is adopted, then the= processing of the telemetry I-D will probably have to be slow down until t= he telemetry use cases draft is ready, so that they are sent to publication= together (in this case the telemetry draft will have a steady reference t= o RFC and not to I-D). >The concerns were expressed that telemetry draft is already a long documen= t and authors don't want to make it longer. Thanks, Yuhei 2020=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=8827=E6=97=A5(=E6=9C=A8) 18:44 : > > Hi Valery, all, > > (1) > > We do already have in the telemetry I-D some text to describe the main us= es of the DOTS telemetry. Nevertheless, that text does not intend to be exh= austive nor to dive into more details to describe how to put the various pi= eces together. > > (2) > > I do see a value in having a document that discusses in more details how = to play with DOTS telemetry. draft-hayashi-* can be such document. The doc= ument can be updated with pieces that are already in the telemetry draft. I= support thus this draft to be adopted. > > (3) > > As a support document (https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/= support-documents/), we don't need to publish it as an RFC. We can decide a= bout that once the document is more mature. > > (4) > > From the assessment shared by the authors of draft-hayashi-* in the past,= I remember that they indicated that their use cases are met with the attri= butes specified in the telemetry I-D. > > Cheers, > Med > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Valery Smyslov > > Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 27 ao=C3=BBt 2020 09:44 > > =C3=80 : dots@ietf.org > > Cc : dots-chairs@ietf.org; H Y ; draft- > > hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org > > Objet : [Dots] Call for adoption of draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use- > > cases-00 > > > > Hi, > > > > after discussion with Yuhei we decided to issue a call for adoption of > > draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 as a WG document. > > > > Note, that the chairs have an opinion, that the DOTS WG has already > > published quite a lot of informational documents, describing DOTS > > requirements, architecture, use cases. > > We think that having one more auxiliary document that describes use > > cases only for an optional feature of DOTS > > (telemetry) is not fully justified and it's probably better to merge > > telemetry use cases draft with telemetry I-D. > > We think that for implementers it's generally easier to look into a > > single document, than to find a separate one describing use cases. > > Another consideration is that if a separate document is adopted, then > > the processing of the telemetry I-D will probably have to be slow down > > until the telemetry use cases draft is ready, so that they are sent to > > publication together (in this case the telemetry draft will have a > > steady reference to RFC and not to I-D). > > > > On the other hand, discussion on last DOTS meeting and on the list > > indicated that quite a lot of people in the WG prefer to have > > telemetry use cases as a separate document, instead of merging it with > > the telemetry draft. The concerns were expressed that telemetry draft > > is already a long document and authors don't want to make it longer. > > > > So, this message start a two weeks call for adoption of > > draft-hayashi-dots-telemetry-use-cases-00 that will end 11 September. > > Please, respond to the list with your preference among 2 options: > > > > 1. Adopt this draft as a separate document describing DOTS telemetry > > use cases. > > 2. Don't adopt this draft and merge its content into the draft-ietf- > > dots-telemetry instead. > > > > We'll be very much appreciated if you also give reasoning for your > > choice. > > > > Regards, > > Frank & Valery. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dots mailing list > > Dots@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > _________________________________________________________________________= ________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confid= entielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez re= cu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages = electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme o= u falsifie. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:39:02 -0000 Hi Kaname, all,=20 FWIW, this is now fixed in the working copy available at: https://github.co= m/boucadair/rfc8782-yang-update/blob/master/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis.txt The change to the YANG module can be tracked using this diff: https://githu= b.com/boucadair/rfc8782-yang-update/commit/ac41fb1c496c5586cb461a7f3efacbab= c28fbdca=20 Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de > mohamed.boucadair@orange.com > Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 27 ao=FBt 2020 11:26 > =C0=A0: Jon Shallow ; 'kaname nishizuka' > ; dots@ietf.org; Valery Smyslov > Objet=A0: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > Yes, this should be fixed. The updated tree would look like: >=20 > OLD: > | +-- (direction)? > | +--:(server-to-client-only) > | ... > | +-- attack-status? > | iana-signal:attack-status >=20 > NEW: > | +-- (direction)? > | +--:(server-to-client-only) > | | ... > | +--:(client-to-server-only) > | +-- attack-status? > | iana-signal:attack-status >=20 > Cheers, > Med >=20 > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De=A0: Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Jon Shallow > > Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 24 ao=FBt 2020 15:06 =C0=A0: 'kaname nishizuka' > > ; dots@ietf.org; Valery Smyslov > > > Objet=A0: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt > > > > Hi Kaname, > > > > Well spotted! > > > > I agree that > > > > leaf attack-status { > > type iana-signal:attack-status; > > description > > "Indicates the status of an attack as seen by the > > DOTS client."; > > } > > Should be moved up to just after (in the yang definition ietf-dots- > > signal-channel@2020-07-02.yang) > > leaf trigger-mitigation { > > type boolean; > > default "true"; > > description > > "If set to 'false', DDoS mitigation will not be > > triggered unless the DOTS signal channel > > session is lost."; > > } > > > > And will get corrected. > > > > Regards > > > > Jon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dots [mailto: dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of kaname > > > nishizuka > > > Sent: 24 August 2020 08:28 > > > To: Valery Smyslov; dots@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt > > > > > > Hi Med, all. > > > > > > `attack-status` is now under server-to-client-only in RFC8782 bis, > > but > > > I just want to clarify whether it's correct. > > > > > > In 4.4.3, it is said: > > > The 'attack-status' parameter is a mandatory attribute when > > > performing an efficacy update. The various possible values > > contained > > > in the 'attack-status' parameter are described in Table 4. > > > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ > > > | Parameter | Description | > > > | Value | | > > > +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ > > > | 1 | The DOTS client determines that it | > > > | | is still under attack. | > > > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ > > > | 2 | The DOTS client determines that the | > > > | | attack is successfully mitigated | > > > | | (e.g., attack traffic is not seen). | > > > +-----------+-------------------------------------+ > > > > > > Table 4: Values of 'attack-status' Parameter > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > Kaname Nishizuka > > > > > > > > > On 2020/08/19 16:06, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > according to the roadmap we discussed for the replacement of RFC > > > > 8782, we are going to request yangdoctors and opsdir reviews for > > the > > > > just adopted draft to double check that all the changes in YANG > > > > module are fine with them. > > > > We are going to issue WGLC shortly after the reviews are > complete. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Frank & Valery. > > > > > > > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet- > > Drafts > > > directories. > > > >> This draft is a work item of the DDoS Open Threat Signaling WG > of > > > >> the > > > IETF. > > > >> > > > >> Title : Distributed Denial-of-Service Open > > Threat Signaling > > > (DOTS) Signal Channel Specification > > > >> Authors : Mohamed Boucadair > > > >> Jon Shallow > > > >> Tirumaleswar Reddy.K > > > >> Filename : draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt > > > >> Pages : 119 > > > >> Date : 2020-08-18 > > > >> > > > >> Abstract: > > > >> This document specifies the Distributed Denial-of-Service > > Open Threat > > > >> Signaling (DOTS) signal channel, a protocol for signaling > the > > need > > > >> for protection against Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) > > attacks > > > >> to a server capable of enabling network traffic mitigation > on > > behalf > > > >> of the requesting client. > > > >> > > > >> A companion document defines the DOTS data channel, a > > separate > > > >> reliable communication layer for DOTS management and > > configuration > > > >> purposes. > > > >> > > > >> This document obsoletes RFC 8782. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis/ > > > >> > > > >> There are also htmlized versions available at: > > > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 > > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782- > > bis-0 > > > >> 0 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time > of > > > submission > > > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at > > tools.ietf.org. > > > >> > > > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Dots mailing list > > > >> Dots@ietf.org > > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Dots mailing list > > > > Dots@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Dots mailing list > > > Dots@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dots mailing list > > Dots@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots >=20 > ______________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________ >=20 > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, > exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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From nobody Mon Aug 31 22:14:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dots@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED9D3A0BDA for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2020 22:14:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.948, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nttv6.jp Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JoBodyyDVbMg for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2020 22:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guri.nttv6.jp (guri.nttv6.jp [115.69.228.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6323A0BD7 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2020 22:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z.nttv6.jp (z.nttv6.jp [192.168.8.15]) by guri.nttv6.jp (NTTv6MTA) with ESMTP id 0384F25F6BB; Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:14:22 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nttv6.jp; s=20180820; t=1598937262; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=HCzbgf/BnqBT1GrSm85GQ5pWlJbX8ktpHdysLHy048Q=; b=ecIUSeD9zxmfqo4Sdf1iYqKcb0VeM9/D9Y/dDlDZkeBWLifPi/OS+X6xoW8Nl5yh5iyEvX 52XukcJYUF9zJDU8Jz/y5FK2RkXuL3FnHmSQ6VRwY1SZPpCwdnWAz8ADlOdync2ogb/fzJ fZj8/DeAo1Dw0ml6KTU9UYj+2qBg7CU= Received: from UG023-kaname.local (fujiko.nttv6.jp [IPv6:2402:c800:ff06:136::141]) by z.nttv6.jp (NTTv6MTA) with ESMTP id AC23075906F; Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:14:21 +0900 (JST) To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com, "dots@ietf.org" References: <159774885713.10211.5341151302930796088@ietfa.amsl.com> <04af01d675f7$3cedd600$b6c98200$@smyslov.net> <7239960d-0de3-801a-dd9f-e82b93580ae9@nttv6.jp> <163901d67a17$440b5c40$cc2214c0$@jpshallow.com> <19614_1598520348_5F477C1C_19614_44_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031525C28@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <9520_1598866738_5F4CC532_9520_226_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031528E53@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: kaname nishizuka Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 14:14:21 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9520_1598866738_5F4CC532_9520_226_1_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031528E53@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: dots@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of DDoS Open Threat Signaling \(DOTS\) technology and directions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2020 05:14:27 -0000 Thanks! kaname On 2020/08/31 18:38, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote: > Hi Kaname, all, > > FWIW, this is now fixed in the working copy available at: https://github.com/boucadair/rfc8782-yang-update/blob/master/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis.txt > > The change to the YANG module can be tracked using this diff: https://github.com/boucadair/rfc8782-yang-update/commit/ac41fb1c496c5586cb461a7f3efacbabc28fbdca > > Cheers, > Med > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de >> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com >> Envoyé : jeudi 27 août 2020 11:26 >> À : Jon Shallow ; 'kaname nishizuka' >> ; dots@ietf.org; Valery Smyslov >> Objet : Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt >> >> Hi all, >> >> Yes, this should be fixed. The updated tree would look like: >> >> OLD: >> | +-- (direction)? >> | +--:(server-to-client-only) >> | ... >> | +-- attack-status? >> | iana-signal:attack-status >> >> NEW: >> | +-- (direction)? >> | +--:(server-to-client-only) >> | | ... >> | +--:(client-to-server-only) >> | +-- attack-status? >> | iana-signal:attack-status >> >> Cheers, >> Med >> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : Dots [mailto:dots-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Jon Shallow >>> Envoyé : lundi 24 août 2020 15:06 À : 'kaname nishizuka' >>> ; dots@ietf.org; Valery Smyslov >> >>> Objet : Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt >>> >>> Hi Kaname, >>> >>> Well spotted! >>> >>> I agree that >>> >>> leaf attack-status { >>> type iana-signal:attack-status; >>> description >>> "Indicates the status of an attack as seen by the >>> DOTS client."; >>> } >>> Should be moved up to just after (in the yang definition ietf-dots- >>> signal-channel@2020-07-02.yang) >>> leaf trigger-mitigation { >>> type boolean; >>> default "true"; >>> description >>> "If set to 'false', DDoS mitigation will not be >>> triggered unless the DOTS signal channel >>> session is lost."; >>> } >>> >>> And will get corrected. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Jon >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Dots [mailto: dots-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of kaname >>>> nishizuka >>>> Sent: 24 August 2020 08:28 >>>> To: Valery Smyslov; dots@ietf.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Dots] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt >>>> >>>> Hi Med, all. >>>> >>>> `attack-status` is now under server-to-client-only in RFC8782 bis, >>> but >>>> I just want to clarify whether it's correct. >>>> >>>> In 4.4.3, it is said: >>>> The 'attack-status' parameter is a mandatory attribute when >>>> performing an efficacy update. The various possible values >>> contained >>>> in the 'attack-status' parameter are described in Table 4. >>>> +-----------+-------------------------------------+ >>>> | Parameter | Description | >>>> | Value | | >>>> +===========+=====================================+ >>>> | 1 | The DOTS client determines that it | >>>> | | is still under attack. | >>>> +-----------+-------------------------------------+ >>>> | 2 | The DOTS client determines that the | >>>> | | attack is successfully mitigated | >>>> | | (e.g., attack traffic is not seen). | >>>> +-----------+-------------------------------------+ >>>> >>>> Table 4: Values of 'attack-status' Parameter >>>> >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Kaname Nishizuka >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2020/08/19 16:06, Valery Smyslov wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> according to the roadmap we discussed for the replacement of RFC >>>>> 8782, we are going to request yangdoctors and opsdir reviews for >>> the >>>>> just adopted draft to double check that all the changes in YANG >>>>> module are fine with them. >>>>> We are going to issue WGLC shortly after the reviews are >> complete. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Frank & Valery. >>>>> >>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet- >>> Drafts >>>> directories. >>>>>> This draft is a work item of the DDoS Open Threat Signaling WG >> of >>>>>> the >>>> IETF. >>>>>> Title : Distributed Denial-of-Service Open >>> Threat Signaling >>>> (DOTS) Signal Channel Specification >>>>>> Authors : Mohamed Boucadair >>>>>> Jon Shallow >>>>>> Tirumaleswar Reddy.K >>>>>> Filename : draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00.txt >>>>>> Pages : 119 >>>>>> Date : 2020-08-18 >>>>>> >>>>>> Abstract: >>>>>> This document specifies the Distributed Denial-of-Service >>> Open Threat >>>>>> Signaling (DOTS) signal channel, a protocol for signaling >> the >>> need >>>>>> for protection against Distributed Denial-of-Service (DDoS) >>> attacks >>>>>> to a server capable of enabling network traffic mitigation >> on >>> behalf >>>>>> of the requesting client. >>>>>> >>>>>> A companion document defines the DOTS data channel, a >>> separate >>>>>> reliable communication layer for DOTS management and >>> configuration >>>>>> purposes. >>>>>> >>>>>> This document obsoletes RFC 8782. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis/ >>>>>> >>>>>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-00 >>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782- >>> bis-0 >>>>>> 0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time >> of >>>> submission >>>>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>> tools.ietf.org. >>>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Dots mailing list >>>>>> Dots@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Dots mailing list >>>>> Dots@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Dots mailing list >>>> Dots@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dots mailing list >>> Dots@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dots >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> ___________________________________________________ >> >> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations >> confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, >> exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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