From nobody Mon Jan 25 07:25:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dtls-iot@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dtls-iot@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0B11B2B91 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 07:25:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.302 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.302 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1uslg2u7da8S for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 07:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 572081B2C09 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 07:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9E7BE25 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:25:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hNinZcbwMlE2 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:25:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [134.226.36.93] (bilbo.dsg.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.36.93]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5EDF6BDCC for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:25:33 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1453735533; bh=5ATXUAM56A+GixMPi6Fk2//jPZlrtxf2N+Gm64Kk3is=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=KA3uunX6qDxf9BxZ8JXSoZxZmeARkTvvA6fOS0BZQwpmzcD829A7pys7RFDh4Mdma 7REP2/sEpYuKkUnTkoZuyvcYDhHT19Jiv0hhXBcCBacbSw+LjzzzDPOiwUZIV3cmOM ZylnbpSRb2SHtv1o5I8szY5IsiprkYMKknS7rIZM= To: "dtls-iot@ietf.org" References: <56265F53.7040108@cs.tcd.ie> From: Stephen Farrell Openpgp: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56A63E6D.2090308@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:25:33 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56265F53.7040108@cs.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory? X-BeenThere: dtls-iot@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DTLS for IoT discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:25:36 -0000 Hi, We discussed closing the WG back in Oct/Nov and a few folks argued to not close. However, nothing much seems to have happened since, so I've requested closure. You should see the official announcement soon. The list will remain open. If you have related work that you would like to see progress in the IETF that fits here but not elsewhere please do use this list to chat about that. If/when some such piece of work seems like it'd garner IETF consensus then I'll be happy to help figure out how to progress that. And thanks again to the chairs and participants. Cheers, S. On 20/10/15 16:35, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Hi all, > > Congratulations to all involved in getting the DTLS profile > document done and through the process. > > Now that that's done, and given that the originally planned > work on group communication hasn't progressed as planned (due > to us discovering that it was trickier than we initially > thought), I think it's time for the WG to evaluate whether > it's time to declare victory and close the WG, or if there's > some other work to be done. > > In chatting with the chairs, we figured that perhaps now is > time to declare victory, but of course that's a topic to talk > about here, so please send your thoughts on the topic to the > list in the next week or two and the chairs and I will see > where we think things are at. > > Cheers and well done again, > Stephen, Dorothy ad Zach. > > PS: The list can remain open even if we do end up closing > the working group if that's useful. > > _______________________________________________ > dtls-iot mailing list > dtls-iot@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtls-iot > From nobody Mon Jan 25 09:00:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dtls-iot@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dtls-iot@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F337E1B2D3D for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:00:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.091 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.091 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yXN9ht4td-OM for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from eu-smtp-delivery-143.mimecast.com (eu-smtp-delivery-143.mimecast.com [207.82.80.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 136911B2D3B for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-am1lrp0013.outbound.protection.outlook.com [213.199.154.13]) (Using TLS) by eu-smtp-1.mimecast.com with ESMTP id uk-mta-26-ATA9e_0IRsusobOT8Y2RIA-1; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:00:23 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armh.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-arm-com; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=hwEYWbvWei2rrdjsuacI0q45ZTu3ASQSkrwnaI3BbbQ=; b=Af8cu3rZzbozAhCeQnrTNMSyc11IMX6yiW9ul/6OGC1wTGwCb5gPbtNj77NhMedhzXihH1nJH+OVBERmpCj/yeEUaKFpd4FX6+qSBrnVSUWp5wP5wpFnhxuBRukWO9L4Qs2BLfugLapi0SPw7rOKNF+BK6x77n7X2LigMUcC3TY= Received: from HE1PR08MB0571.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.161.121.11) by HE1PR08MB0571.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.161.121.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.365.19; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:00:21 +0000 Received: from HE1PR08MB0571.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.161.121.11]) by HE1PR08MB0571.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.161.121.11]) with mapi id 15.01.0365.024; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:00:21 +0000 From: Zach Shelby To: Stephen Farrell Thread-Topic: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory? Thread-Index: AQHRC00u7OdomwedZUqpwjgiyUXL6Z8M8qiAgAAafAA= Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:00:21 +0000 Message-ID: <82880599-436B-46BD-B14F-9D8CE78D3CD2@arm.com> References: <56265F53.7040108@cs.tcd.ie> <56A63E6D.2090308@cs.tcd.ie> In-Reply-To: <56A63E6D.2090308@cs.tcd.ie> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-originating-ip: [67.161.69.53] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; HE1PR08MB0571; 5:xY5puaGr3VSVqqqVw77ZpSlHgA+6ZCdCDVLLVNqo5E2YIgme72yU/2mhYBHpWBQ2/q+MoovOsczMlHSZB7AXEUlm9MPREZbLXZJvUS7iJloWKOp5oEDv+QX5ebsourscZ7AhT08a+A2bEKrOi2hMlQ==; 24:CrGeKEJAicPCAyJC19wH0d33BcJEbIalqIpvhmnauAfYHY60OGyL5F6EIM6BS7lwcL4jWVWNpdB1PVHzpWY7qoshOpejawLcU4JdbTlsHyc=; 20:kN2SOqaf1u761zEk1k++QeyLa6xRqFR2nvFdNKUjebPn9TnwVXR2Tx2q7mvMgVjcXLt3sYGfc7auPYmOGoh1IuUwv+EM0C7uNajOEaj2EfUDkTuMyKBhExGLYu72wgdF+emek/3o6DrsaRyMM/ugoqegYYG+AV5BliksU5RG5Hc= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:HE1PR08MB0571; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: d7b1b61f-2e48-4740-295b-08d325a902b8 x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(32856632585715)(180628864354917); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(520078)(8121501046)(5005006)(3002001)(10201501046); SRVR:HE1PR08MB0571; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:HE1PR08MB0571; x-forefront-prvs: 083289FD26 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(43784003)(479174004)(40434004)(24454002)(53754006)(189002)(199003)(5001960100002)(15975445007)(2950100001)(3846002)(77096005)(1096002)(102836003)(15974865002)(110136002)(1220700001)(2900100001)(11100500001)(105586002)(50986999)(106356001)(76176999)(5002640100001)(3280700002)(5008740100001)(106116001)(586003)(97736004)(33656002)(19580395003)(82746002)(83716003)(6116002)(81156007)(66066001)(189998001)(101416001)(19580405001)(122556002)(2906002)(87936001)(10400500002)(4326007)(57306001)(36756003)(5880100001)(50226001)(5004730100002)(40100003)(86362001)(92566002)(5890100001)(163963001)(104396002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:HE1PR08MB0571; H:HE1PR08MB0571.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: arm.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 25 Jan 2016 17:00:21.2352 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: f34e5979-57d9-4aaa-ad4d-b122a662184d X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR08MB0571 X-MC-Unique: ATA9e_0IRsusobOT8Y2RIA-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Cc: "dtls-iot@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Dtls-iot] dice wg future work... or time to declare victory? X-BeenThere: dtls-iot@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DTLS for IoT discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:00:30 -0000 Folks, In particular I want to thank Hannes and Thomas for stepping up to lead the= work on DICE profiles and everyone else in the WG who has helped along the= way (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dice-profile-17#section-25). I think this is a great example of a focused WG, where we had a clear pictu= re of what we wanted to achieve when starting out, actively focused on gett= ing those things done, and resisted inventing new work for ourselves. Regards, Zach > On 25 Jan 2016, at 07:25, Stephen Farrell wro= te: > > > Hi, > > We discussed closing the WG back in Oct/Nov and a few > folks argued to not close. However, nothing much seems > to have happened since, so I've requested closure. You > should see the official announcement soon. > > The list will remain open. > > If you have related work that you would like to see > progress in the IETF that fits here but not elsewhere > please do use this list to chat about that. If/when > some such piece of work seems like it'd garner IETF > consensus then I'll be happy to help figure out how to > progress that. > > And thanks again to the chairs and participants. > > Cheers, > S. > > > On 20/10/15 16:35, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Congratulations to all involved in getting the DTLS profile >> document done and through the process. >> >> Now that that's done, and given that the originally planned >> work on group communication hasn't progressed as planned (due >> to us discovering that it was trickier than we initially >> thought), I think it's time for the WG to evaluate whether >> it's time to declare victory and close the WG, or if there's >> some other work to be done. >> >> In chatting with the chairs, we figured that perhaps now is >> time to declare victory, but of course that's a topic to talk >> about here, so please send your thoughts on the topic to the >> list in the next week or two and the chairs and I will see >> where we think things are at. >> >> Cheers and well done again, >> Stephen, Dorothy ad Zach. >> >> PS: The list can remain open even if we do end up closing >> the working group if that's useful. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dtls-iot mailing list >> dtls-iot@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtls-iot >> > > _______________________________________________ > dtls-iot mailing list > dtls-iot@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtls-iot > Zach Shelby Vice President, Marketing ARM Internet of Things BU www.arm.com US: +1 (408) 203-9434 Finland: +358 407796297 Skype: zdshelby LinkedIn: fi.linkedin.com/in/zachshelby/ IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. 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From nobody Mon Jan 25 13:23:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dtls-iot@ietf.org Delivered-To: dtls-iot@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8090D1A0338; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:23:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF Announcement List" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.13.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160125212335.15743.61132.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:23:35 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: dorothy.gellert@gmail.com, zach.shelby@arm.com, dtls-iot@ietf.org Subject: [Dtls-iot] WG Action: Conclusion of DTLS In Constrained Environments (dice) X-BeenThere: dtls-iot@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: DTLS for IoT discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:23:35 -0000 The DTLS in Constrained Environments (DICE) working group in the Security Area has concluded its work and is now closed. Congratulations to all involved in getting the DTLS profile document done and through the process. Thanks especially to the chairs, Dorothy and Zach. The mailing list will remain open for discussion of relevant work. Regards, Stephen Farrell, Sec AD.