From rjsparks@nostrum.com Thu Oct 14 10:35:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9861B3A68D5 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:35:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31U3vwAoJA5B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CC83A68C0 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.105] (pool-173-71-48-4.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.48.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9EHbC0W038830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:37:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) From: Robert Sparks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:37:12 -0500 Message-Id: To: ecrit@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: [Ecrit] Test X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:35:55 -0000 It's very quiet here - making sure the plumbing is still working. From mlinsner@cisco.com Fri Oct 22 05:13:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E844E3A686A for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 05:13:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MUXzRMj5JAuA for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 05:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877863A676A for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 05:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAJ8ZwUxAaMHG/2dsb2JhbAChYHGjRZwUhUoEik2DBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,222,1286150400"; d="scan'208";a="273978543" Received: from syd-core-1.cisco.com ([64.104.193.198]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2010 12:15:14 +0000 Received: from [10.116.195.122] (rtp-mlinsner-8719.cisco.com [10.116.195.122]) by syd-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9MCFATn019773 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:15:12 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.26.0.100708 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:15:09 -0400 From: Marc Linsner To: "'ecrit'" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Beijing agenda Thread-Index: Actx4sTjpm0Y7YPpBUW2m9aXjB5vlw== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [Ecrit] Beijing agenda X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:13:39 -0000 If you are planning to present in Beijing, let us know by COB on Monday. -Marc, Richard, Roger- From root@core3.amsl.com Sun Oct 24 23:45:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id ACE693A696F; Sun, 24 Oct 2010 23:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20101025064501.ACE693A696F@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 23:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 06:45:01 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Trustworthy Location Information Author(s) : H. Tschofenig, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-01.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2010-10-24 For some location-based applications, such as emergency calling or roadside assistance, it is important to be able to determine whether location information is trustworthy. This document outlines potential threats to trustworthy location and analyzes the operational issues with potential solutions. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-10-24233955.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From root@core3.amsl.com Mon Oct 25 01:30:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id D15743A6985; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 01:30:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20101025083003.D15743A6985@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 01:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:30:04 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) based Data-Only Emergency Alerts using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Author(s) : B. Rosen, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-01.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2010-10-25 The Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) is a document format for exchanging emergency alerts and public warnings. CAP is mainly used for conveying alerts and warnings between authorities and from authorities to citizen/individuals. This document describes how data-only emergency alerts allow devices to issue alerts using the CAP document format. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-10-25012756.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From root@core3.amsl.com Mon Oct 25 06:45:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 8B4413A6864; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 06:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20101025134501.8B4413A6864@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 06:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:45:01 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices Author(s) : H. Schulzrinne, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2010-10-25 The IETF emergency services architecture assumes that the calling device has acquired rights to use the access network or that no authentication is required for the access network, such as for public wireless access points. Subsequent protocol interactions, such as obtaining location information, learning the address of the Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) and the emergency call itself are largely decoupled from the underlying network access procedures. In some cases, however, the device does not have these credentials for network access, does not have a VoIP service provider, or the credentials have become invalid, e.g., because the user has exhausted their prepaid balance or the account has expired. This document provides a problem statement, introduces terminology and describes an extension for the base IETF emergency services architecture to address these scenarios. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-10-25064254.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From RMarshall@telecomsys.com Mon Oct 25 11:27:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93F43A691D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:27:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e-PgkeytA49c for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ann-mimesweep-1.telecomsys.com (ann-mimesweep-1.telecomsys.com [205.244.233.171]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3D03A6867 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SEA-EXCHVS-2.telecomsys.com (unverified [10.32.12.6]) by ann-mimesweep-1.telecomsys.com (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:29:03 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:28:08 -0700 Message-ID: <8C837214C95C864C9F34F3635C2A657514C28C8F@SEA-EXCHVS-2.telecomsys.com> In-Reply-To: <4CC20438.2090305@bbn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: NENA i3 (stage 3) draft specification available undergoing public review Thread-Index: ActyMW1DcH/aVzJNQI+1Jeo2XJUCggCP0tAg References: <8C837214C95C864C9F34F3635C2A657514B6CA93@SEA-EXCHVS-2.telecomsys.com> <4CC20438.2090305@bbn.com> From: "Roger Marshall" To: "ecrit" Subject: [Ecrit] NENA i3 (stage 3) draft specification available undergoing public review X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:27:21 -0000 A short note to let folks know that NENA's i3 (stage 3) draft specification is currently under public review at www.nena.org. =20 A direct link to the document review page is as follows: http://www.nena.org/story/NENA_i3_Stage3_for_review Reference the actual document name of:=20 "NENA Technical Standard Document on Detailed Functional and Interface Specification for the NENA i3 Solution - Stage 3 NENA 08-003, Version 1, September 30, 2010" Sent on behalf of ECRIT WG Chairs, Marc Linsner & Richard Barnes. 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From root@core3.amsl.com Mon Oct 25 12:15:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 47C4D3A6A81; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20101025191507.47C4D3A6A81@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:15:07 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) Callbacks Author(s) : H. Schulzrinne, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2010-10-25 After an emergency call is completed (either prematurely terminated by the emergency caller or normally by the call-taker) it is possible that the call-taker feels the need for further communication or for a clarification. For example, the call may have been dropped by accident without the call-taker having sufficient information about the current situation of a wounded person. A call-taker may trigger a callback towards the emergency caller using the contact information provided with the initial emergency call. This callback could, under certain circumstances, then be treated like any other call and as a consequence, it may get blocked by authorization policies or may get forwarded to an answering machine. The IETF emergency services architecture addresses callbacks in a limited fashion and thereby covers a couple of scenarios. This document discusses some shortcomings and illustrates an extension. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-10-25120849.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From root@core3.amsl.com Mon Oct 25 13:30:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 01C803A6AF4; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20101025203003.01C803A6AF4@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-framework-12.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:30:05 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Framework for Emergency Calling using Internet Multimedia Author(s) : B. Rosen, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-framework-12.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2010-10-25 The IETF has standardized various aspects of placing emergency calls. This document describes how all of those component parts are used to support emergency calls from citizens and visitors to authorities. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-framework-12.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ecrit-framework-12.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-10-25131856.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From root@core3.amsl.com Mon Oct 25 13:30:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 8A8EF3A69B8; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20101025203007.8A8EF3A69B8@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:30:10 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Best Current Practice for Communications Services in support of Emergency Calling Author(s) : B. Rosen, J. Polk Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2010-10-25 The IETF and other standards organization have efforts targeted at standardizing various aspects of placing emergency calls on IP networks. This memo describes best current practice on how devices, networks and services should use such standards to make emergency calls. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-10-25131912.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From john.elwell@siemens-enterprise.com Tue Oct 26 00:32:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518D43A688D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:32:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.616 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VfjagmfOFeAN for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms01.m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com (m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com [62.180.227.30]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AB53A67F1 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from senmx12-mx ([62.134.46.10] [62.134.46.10]) by ms01.m0020.fra.mmp.de.bt.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-2041756 for ecrit@ietf.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:34:29 +0200 Received: from MCHP064A.global-ad.net (unknown [172.29.37.63]) by senmx12-mx (Server) with ESMTP id 96C6123F0278 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:34:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from MCHP058A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.55]) by MCHP064A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.63]) with mapi; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:34:30 +0200 From: "Elwell, John" To: "ecrit@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:34:27 +0200 Thread-Topic: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt Thread-Index: Act0g9iuAuDk0smISpCtaqQ4c6Q+AQAWgV6w Message-ID: References: <20101025203007.8A8EF3A69B8@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20101025203007.8A8EF3A69B8@core3.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:32:45 -0000 Just checked the diffs. In SP-18 it now says: "SP-18 If a proxy is attempting to insert location but the UA conveyed a location to it, the proxy MUST use the UA's location for routing in the initial INVITE and MUST convey that location towards the PSAP." The wording "for routing in the initial INVITE" do now seem to make sense.= =20 Should it say "...the proxy MUST use the UA's location in the initial INVIT= E for routing..." In 9.3 item 4 it now says: "In the absence of another spec(T), such proxies should =20 pass the header unmodified if and only if the connection between= =20 the proxy and the PSAP is, as far as the proxy can determine, =20 protected by TLS with mutual authentication using keys reliably = =20 known by the parties, encrypted with no less strength than AES = =20 and the local regulations governing the PSAP do not otherwise =20 specify." This is a long sentence - it seems understandable apart from the last part: "and the local regulations governing the PSAP do not otherwise =20 specify" I am not sure what this is trying to say. One possible interpretation is th= at the sentence is trying to say: "In the absence of another spec(T) and except where regulations governing t= he PSAP specify otherwise, such proxies should ...." John > -----Original Message----- > From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > Sent: 25 October 2010 21:30 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ecrit@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line=20 > Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution=20 > with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. >=20 >=20 > Title : Best Current Practice for=20 > Communications Services in support of Emergency Calling > Author(s) : B. Rosen, J. Polk > Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt > Pages : 24 > Date : 2010-10-25 >=20 > The IETF and other standards organization have efforts targeted at > standardizing various aspects of placing emergency calls on IP > networks. This memo describes best current practice on how devices, > networks and services should use such standards to make emergency > calls. >=20 > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-16.txt >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > = From Milan.Patel@InterDigital.com Tue Oct 26 03:41:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C623A6820 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:41:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.227 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.227 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.372, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qN3EhICkaro7 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idcout.InterDigital.com (idcexmail.interdigital.com [12.32.197.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B853A67AC for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interdigital.com ([10.0.128.12]) by idcout.InterDigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:43:04 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4657 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB74FA.90B2EB76" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:43:02 -0400 Message-ID: <61CAF342FE1EE34EAC8FB19B765914000E6FB377@SABRE.InterDigital.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt Thread-Index: Act0eZiTmKHqo9JrRWGcizK4O+SLHAAfemyg From: "Patel, Milan" To: "ecrit" Importance: normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2010 10:43:04.0683 (UTC) FILETIME=[91CAE3B0:01CB74FA] Priority: normal Subject: [Ecrit] FW: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:41:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB74FA.90B2EB76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, A new version of draft-ietf-psap-callback is now available. The draft illustrates a solution for PSAP call back marking.=20 Feedback to this approach is appreciated. Best regards, Milan -----Original Message----- From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:15 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) Callbacks Author(s) : H. Schulzrinne, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2010-10-25 After an emergency call is completed (either prematurely terminated by the emergency caller or normally by the call-taker) it is possible that the call-taker feels the need for further communication or for a clarification. For example, the call may have been dropped by accident without the call-taker having sufficient information about the current situation of a wounded person. A call-taker may trigger a callback towards the emergency caller using the contact information provided with the initial emergency call. This callback could, under certain circumstances, then be treated like any other call and as a consequence, it may get blocked by authorization policies or may get forwarded to an answering machine. The IETF emergency services architecture addresses callbacks in a limited fashion and thereby covers a couple of scenarios. This document discusses some shortcomings and illustrates an extension. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.tx t Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. =20 =20 =20 Milan Patel=20 Consultant InterDigital Communications, LLC Tel.: +44 7917 678 250 Fax:=20 Email: Milan.Patel@InterDigital.com http://www.InterDigital.com This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to = which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, = confidential and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other = than its intended recipient. Unintended transmission shall not = constitute waiver of any privilege or confidentiality obligation. 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Unless expressly stated in this e-mail, = nothing in this message or any attachment should be construed as a = digital or electronic signature. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB74FA.90B2EB76 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.URL" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.URL Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.URL" W0ludGVybmV0U2hvcnRjdXRdDQpVUkw9ZnRwOi8vZnRwLmlldGYub3JnL2ludGVybmV0LWRyYWZ0 cy9kcmFmdC1pZXRmLWVjcml0LXBzYXAtY2FsbGJhY2stMDEudHh0DQo= ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB74FA.90B2EB76-- From Milan.Patel@InterDigital.com Tue Oct 26 03:48:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC16F3A694C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:48:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.351 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.351 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4dfOp7KAMm4f for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idcout.InterDigital.com (idcexmail.interdigital.com [12.32.197.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA993A690E for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interdigital.com ([10.0.128.12]) by idcout.InterDigital.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:49:56 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4657 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: <61CAF342FE1EE34EAC8FB19B765914000E6FB378@SABRE.InterDigital.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt Thread-Index: Act0eZiTmKHqo9JrRWGcizK4O+SLHAAfemygAAD1fLA= From: "Patel, Milan" To: "ecrit" Importance: normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2010 10:49:56.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[87376940:01CB74FB] Priority: normal Subject: [Ecrit] FW: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:48:11 -0000 Hi Folks, A new version of draft-ietf-psap-callback is now available. The draft illustrates a solution for PSAP call back marking.=20 Feedback to this approach is appreciated. Best regards, Milan -----Original Message----- From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:15 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) Callbacks Author(s) : H. Schulzrinne, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2010-10-25 After an emergency call is completed (either prematurely terminated by the emergency caller or normally by the call-taker) it is possible that the call-taker feels the need for further communication or for a clarification. For example, the call may have been dropped by accident without the call-taker having sufficient information about the current situation of a wounded person. A call-taker may trigger a callback towards the emergency caller using the contact information provided with the initial emergency call. This callback could, under certain circumstances, then be treated like any other call and as a consequence, it may get blocked by authorization policies or may get forwarded to an answering machine. The IETF emergency services architecture addresses callbacks in a limited fashion and thereby covers a couple of scenarios. This document discusses some shortcomings and illustrates an extension. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-01.tx t Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. =20 =20 =20 Milan Patel=20 Consultant InterDigital Communications, LLC Tel.: +44 7917 678 250 Fax:=20 Email: Milan.Patel@InterDigital.com http://www.InterDigital.com This e-mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to = which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, = confidential and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other = than its intended recipient. Unintended transmission shall not = constitute waiver of any privilege or confidentiality obligation. 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From dirk.kroeselberg@nsn.com Tue Oct 26 04:01:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E532D3A693E for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 04:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.452 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.452 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.146, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LKvqMKocl7oG for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 04:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370363A6931 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 04:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o9QB2qtr012576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:02:52 +0200 Received: from demuexc022.nsn-intra.net (demuexc022.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.35]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o9QB2mHS024808 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:02:52 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC030.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.57]) by demuexc022.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:02:43 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CB74FD.4FA632CE" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:02:41 +0200 Message-ID: <322941BAEFBEB54C9434BE97B3A2200A014E2B1F@DEMUEXC030.nsn-intra.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FW: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt Thread-Index: Act0/U9e9sJK6ML0S3WBfDQHiSuH8A== From: "Kroeselberg, Dirk (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2010 11:02:43.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[5051FF10:01CB74FD] Subject: [Ecrit] FW: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:01:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB74FD.4FA632CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there is a new update of the ecrit-unauthenticated draft, with major editorial changes, cleanup and restructuring, but otherwise only few technical modifications. Please review and comment. Dirk -----Original Message----- From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 3:45 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices Author(s) : H. Schulzrinne, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2010-10-25 The IETF emergency services architecture assumes that the calling device has acquired rights to use the access network or that no authentication is required for the access network, such as for public wireless access points. Subsequent protocol interactions, such as obtaining location information, learning the address of the Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) and the emergency call itself are largely decoupled from the underlying network access procedures. In some cases, however, the device does not have these credentials for network access, does not have a VoIP service provider, or the credentials have become invalid, e.g., because the user has exhausted their prepaid balance or the account has expired. This document provides a problem statement, introduces terminology and describes an extension for the base IETF emergency services architecture to address these scenarios. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-acc ess-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CB74FD.4FA632CE Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FW: I-D = Action:draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-01.txt

there is a new update of the ecrit-unauthenticated draft, with = major editorial = changes, cleanup and = restructuring, but = otherwise = only few = technical modifications.

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A New = Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories.

This draft is = a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet = Technologies Working Group of the IETF.


        Title        &n= bsp;  : Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for = dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices

        Author(s)       : H. = Schulzrinne, et al.

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The IETF = emergency services architecture assumes that the = calling

device has = acquired rights to use the access network = or that no

authentication = is required for the access network, such as for public

wireless = access points.  Subsequent protocol interactions, such = as

obtaining = location information, learning the address of the = Public

Safety = Answering Point (PSAP) and the emergency = call itself are

largely = decoupled from the underlying network access = procedures.

In some cases, = however, the device does not have these credentials

for network = access, does not have a VoIP service provider, or the

credentials = have become invalid, e.g., because the = user has exhausted

their prepaid = balance or the account has expired.

This document = provides a problem statement, introduces terminology

and describes = an extension for the base IETF emergency services

architecture = to address these scenarios.

A URL for this = Internet-Draft is:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-u= nauthenticated-access-01.txt

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP = at:

ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-= drafts/

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implementation = to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the

Internet-Draft.

------_=_NextPart_001_01CB74FD.4FA632CE-- From hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com Tue Oct 26 07:24:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5213A67F2 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:24:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X4v5UEsQn7MI for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6A73A680A for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o9QEQDlS005503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:26:14 +0200 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o9QEQB13004270 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:26:13 +0200 Received: from FIESEXC015.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.0.23]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:26:07 +0200 Received: from 10.144.234.121 ([10.144.234.121]) by FIESEXC015.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.0.28]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.35]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:26:07 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.27.0.100910 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:26:02 +0300 From: Hannes Tschofenig To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea Thread-Index: Act1GbdLTtGpa9XmAkO+XBhWiXuHfw== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2010 14:26:07.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA9FFB30:01CB7519] Subject: [Ecrit] draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:24:30 -0000 Hi all, we have updated the "Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) based Data-Only Emergency Alerts using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)" https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea/ The main part of the update brings the document inline with the NENA i3 stage 3 way of handling location information. The diff is here: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-01.txt We believe that the document is ready for WGLC. Ciao Hannes From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Tue Oct 26 07:51:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E86E3A694C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:51:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.175 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.175 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ov5Jo0MBRy52 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1813A6969 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.62]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id o9QEqYTo030506 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:52:46 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.48]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB02.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.62]) with mapi; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:52:40 +0200 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "Ecrit@Ietf. Org" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:52:39 +0200 Thread-Topic: List discussion Thread-Index: Act1HW7Vxcfgn2QJT6i6a4pPOrUvOQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: [Ecrit] List discussion X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:51:01 -0000 We have just had a raft of technically revised WG drafts posted that I do n= ot remember any list discussion on the proposed changes whatsoever. Could the authors of all these please justify the working group consensus b= ehing all the technical changes they have made. And in future could we have some postings to this list that start "I propos= e that the next version of this document does this..." rather than a fait a= ccompli. regards Keith= From hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com Tue Oct 26 08:05:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30BF3A683F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:05:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZqcKHmpz5EV1 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B293A680A for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o9QF7PAO002172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:07:26 +0200 Received: from demuexc023.nsn-intra.net (demuexc023.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.36]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o9QF7PgI009286; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:07:25 +0200 Received: from FIESEXC015.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.0.23]) by demuexc023.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:07:25 +0200 Received: from 10.144.234.121 ([10.144.234.121]) by FIESEXC015.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.0.28]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.35]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:07:24 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.27.0.100910 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:07:18 +0300 From: Hannes Tschofenig To: "ext DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" , "Ecrit@Ietf. Org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] List discussion Thread-Index: Act1HW7Vxcfgn2QJT6i6a4pPOrUvOQAAgxFu In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2010 15:07:25.0847 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FC87270:01CB751F] Subject: Re: [Ecrit] List discussion X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:05:42 -0000 Hi Keith, I talked about the proposed document changes at the previous IETF meeting and was soliciting feedback. You were in the room, if I recall it correctly. We crafted a proposals, as it is expected from the document authors. As usual, I would appreciate your (technical) input as well. Ciao Hannes On 10/26/10 5:52 PM, "ext DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" wrote: > We have just had a raft of technically revised WG drafts posted that I do not > remember any list discussion on the proposed changes whatsoever. > > Could the authors of all these please justify the working group consensus > behing all the technical changes they have made. > > And in future could we have some postings to this list that start "I propose > that the next version of this document does this..." rather than a fait > accompli. > > regards > > Keith > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit From br@brianrosen.net Tue Oct 26 09:04:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616B03A6888 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0ln5R4zs50QR for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wwh1.winweblinux.com (wwh1.winweblinux.com [76.74.186.184]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1AE3A6877 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [156.154.47.3] (helo=[192.168.36.17]) by wwh1.winweblinux.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PAm2m-0001C0-4g; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:06:36 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Brian Rosen In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:06:25 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0EF29E66-71C0-43E2-AD15-9A4E19D3D61D@brianrosen.net> References: To: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wwh1.winweblinux.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - brianrosen.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: "Ecrit@Ietf. Org" Subject: Re: [Ecrit] List discussion X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:04:50 -0000 -framework and -phonebcp revisions are due to DISCUSSs from IESG. Brian On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:52 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote: > We have just had a raft of technically revised WG drafts posted that I = do not remember any list discussion on the proposed changes whatsoever. >=20 > Could the authors of all these please justify the working group = consensus behing all the technical changes they have made. >=20 > And in future could we have some postings to this list that start "I = propose that the next version of this document does this..." rather than = a fait accompli. >=20 > regards >=20 > Keith > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit From mlinsner@cisco.com Wed Oct 27 06:25:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4173A67FB for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:25:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.263 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.263 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.336, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C+tu7OpxypZi for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AF63A67E5 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAArFx0yrRN+J/2dsb2JhbAChWHGgXJwUhUgEilODCA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,246,1286150400"; d="scan'208";a="276553754" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2010 13:27:23 +0000 Received: from [10.116.195.124] (rtp-mlinsner-87111.cisco.com [10.116.195.124]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9RDRLF8011808 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:27:23 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.26.0.100708 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:27:19 -0400 From: Marc Linsner To: "'ecrit'" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Beijing Agenda Thread-Index: Act12q3WEE21ua++y0+KH6JZKQUYZQ== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [Ecrit] Beijing Agenda X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:25:34 -0000 ECRIT WG Meeting Tuesday, November 9, 15:20-18:10 - Garden Ballroom 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20 min * Agenda Bashing, Draft Status Update (Marc Linsner, Richard Barnes, Roger Marshall) 10 min. * Rough Location (Richard/Matt) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-rough-loc/ Intention: Discuss lastest changes - Ready for short WGLC 10 min * Additional Data related to an Emergency Call (Hannes) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data/ Intention: Discuss if ready for WGLC 30 min * Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) based Data-Only Emergency Alerts using the Session Initiation Protocol (Hannes) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea/ Intention: Discuss latest changes and if ready for WGLC 30 min. * Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) Callbacks (Hannes/Milan?) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback/ Intention: Discuss latest changes 30 min. * Trustworthy Location Information (Hannes) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location/ Intention: Discuss latest changes 30 min. * Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices (Dirk) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access/ Intention: Discuss latest changes 10 min. * Open Discussion