From nobody Wed Dec 2 10:17:05 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBAC1A01CB; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:17:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: "Roger Marshall" , "Marc Linsner" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.11.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151202181704.1386.51821.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 10:17:04 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: Ben Campbell , Marc Linsner , Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Discussion List , 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org, Barry Leiba Subject: [Ecrit] New Liaison Statement, "Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG" X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 18:17:04 -0000 Title: Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG Submission Date: 2015-12-02 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1447/ From: "leopold.murhammer@t-mobile.at" To: Marc Linsner , Roger Marshall Cc: Barry Leiba ,Marc Linsner ,Ben Campbell ,Alissa Cooper ,Roger Marshall ,Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Discussion List , Response Contacts: 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org Technical Contacts: Purpose: In response Referenced liaison: Liaison Statement on NG eCall support for the EU (https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1412/) Body: 1. Overall Description: SA2 would like to thank IETF ECRIT for the incoming LS informing 3GPP of IETF work enabling eCall over IETF SIP. SA2 has agreed on a work item (enclosed) in SA2#111, see WID (S2-153654) "Evolution to and Interworking with eCall in IMS Stage2". SA2 plans to start work on this topic at SA2#113 and finalize the work by May 2016. 2. Actions: To IETF Ecrit WG group. ACTION: TSG SA WG2 respectfully asks IETF ECRIT to take the above information into account. 3. Date of Next TSG-SA WG2 Meetings: TSG-SA WG2 Meeting #113 25-29 January, 2016 St. Kitts TSG-SA WG2 Meeting #114 11-15 April, 2016 Sophia Antipolis, FR Attachments: S2-154463_was_154449_154138_LS_Reply_IETF_cl https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-12-02-3gpp-tsgsa-sa2-ecrit-reply-ls-on-ecall-support-for-the-eu-from-ietf-ecrit-wg-attachment-1.pdf S2-153654-ecall over IMS-r8 https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-12-02-3gpp-tsgsa-sa2-ecrit-reply-ls-on-ecall-support-for-the-eu-from-ietf-ecrit-wg-attachment-2.pdf From nobody Fri Dec 4 09:20:44 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692D31A8AB8 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 09:20:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y7Q2Pm1yKqvB for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79CF21A8A94 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 09:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0F1201F0 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:20:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 04 Dec 2015 12:20:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=ygeyfnDG1qQ2jRFw/ZLHdnEdS+A=; b=EtMJIr EhjVT+qSTBpmTtLA4RHZSm+EharwQgeXoxQEfCLk50XD7+AN1/wnAaywkhPVf/vA xWasuoG8W1C25B0euKwNrMFW09jBCwyFEOU5m/kVRpZmuKUBZTWSoWkGPWi8aHcN kDJlSKNjaBRjkQf5zeJE2qEyzOb8vs7WwCfBA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=ygeyfnDG1qQ2jRF w/ZLHdnEdS+A=; b=q5tT/Fy708tpVtltGz4JDvTJRwi5Z1CVA9Xp9x8Mq1DZgZe ytLdSKASHOrEjLxDPNTTqg/W5pCoKfPiZY911gcZgYhUWJ/4YIK5fp4aNpKjxG8R 7AP6KXBtdJO+18+F/pMJPYe1Nt7bVSJnPQ5wkWfLxc44erlOnTBqVsToSLwc= X-Sasl-enc: vxdnKuEIr9dP+UE5+QjQIlN1G/afjsebn0YCUZGeGGwQ 1449249638 Received: from dhcp-171-68-20-108.cisco.com (dhcp-171-68-20-108.cisco.com [171.68.20.108]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3E74CC0001C; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:20:38 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: <52FDD830-AC87-40C4-AD51-3F0CD6AC8131@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 09:20:39 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <661E2BA4-99C0-4D91-A9C8-BF563E4C1A0D@cooperw.in> References: <0D5FCE62-7970-4AC1-90BF-D011D2C6B955@gmail.com> <173BBCAB-F050-4BAA-B651-C7C1AF8CB92E@gmail.com> <4840B933-C7FF-4E5D-B939-0645985B1087@cooperw.in> <6E77EB81-5195-4749-A196-CCED1EE4A604@cooperw.in> <52FDD830-AC87-40C4-AD51-3F0CD6AC8131@gmail.com> To: James Winterbottom X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: "ecrit@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-03 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 17:20:42 -0000 What is the status of this? Does anyone else have an opinion? Thanks, Alissa > On Nov 21, 2015, at 12:36 AM, James Winterbottom = wrote: >=20 > Hi Alissa, >=20 > I think the only comment of yours that I didn=E2=80=99t comment on was = the one surrounding the LIS understanding the new option but not being = able to provide routing information. >=20 > When we were originally writing the document we came to this scenario = and found three options: > 1) Just return location and ignore the routing request (this is = what the document currently says) > 2) Pass something back, anything > 3) Pass something back and say, but indicate it may not be the = droid they are looking for (LoST allows for this approach with the = defaultMappingReturned warning). >=20 > The original reason for going with 1 was simplicity. If you requested = routing, got nothing you would try LoST. Similarly if you requested = routing and got a response saying, =E2=80=9Ceh, not sure, try this = one=E2=80=9D, then the requestor would probably try LoST anyway. I guess = that with 3, at least the requestor has something. >=20 > If there is general agreement, then I will add an attribute to the = routingInformation element that can indicate if it is default or not, = and require the LIS to always respond with something if it understands = the extension. >=20 >=20 > Cheers > James >=20 >=20 >=20 >>>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From nobody Fri Dec 4 10:18:32 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331B11B2B03 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 10:18:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ehmborm-v-In for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 10:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pf0-x22e.google.com (mail-pf0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F4F51ACC8A for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 10:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by pfu207 with SMTP id 207so29702716pfu.2 for ; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 10:18:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=iK86RmbeEF1Ak06tbkqYgH/4buyjHCBGpBw8AQloqZ4=; b=wQRF11EvkB7I+iDYMDU/s8HBUV6NxMCYuxfJLew9ZZfBc1Yn8yjWh74GmSCy6sfmed gZURXEhvJntAdViz4i86uRHj58gF4L4qTpmD7ZTN9CO6Be2h+Urvasj+g55KqfpJig+h +D/kUFC91afaGDzot5+6U8NZCF7ufAvjNSqIvFrkvW/ZgdW8U8DzCK6anK+sG7j0Mn8K ElC2zjI0O7bmcqiVPF23L49571KVv16tMnHFuZFrDmwFzA9S5Aj40yEEcbc5i7qQBOB0 4bcNQDbQXkLN8PJ4zCEwSwIaDCr+sSP+oLZw2y+JK5cXgIGKrs9fziUXVoLl4T2Xj802 bTaA== X-Received: by 10.98.9.194 with SMTP id 63mr23608172pfj.30.1449253109208; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 10:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (124-171-0-78.dyn.iinet.net.au. [124.171.0.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q20sm18532110pfi.5.2015.12.04.10.18.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Dec 2015 10:18:28 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: James Winterbottom In-Reply-To: <661E2BA4-99C0-4D91-A9C8-BF563E4C1A0D@cooperw.in> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 05:18:24 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94128677-C348-414D-9122-E2AD703C110B@gmail.com> References: <0D5FCE62-7970-4AC1-90BF-D011D2C6B955@gmail.com> <173BBCAB-F050-4BAA-B651-C7C1AF8CB92E@gmail.com> <4840B933-C7FF-4E5D-B939-0645985B1087@cooperw.in> <6E77EB81-5195-4749-A196-CCED1EE4A604@cooperw.in> <52FDD830-AC87-40C4-AD51-3F0CD6AC8131@gmail.com> <661E2BA4-99C0-4D91-A9C8-BF563E4C1A0D@cooperw.in> To: Alissa Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: "ecrit@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-03 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 18:18:31 -0000 Hi Alissa, I have most of the changes ready to go. I just wanted a bit more feed back on this one because it changes the = XML (obviously), needs an example, and will change a subsequent = requirement variation in RFC 6881. If I don=E2=80=99t here back very soon I will make the changes anyway = and press on. Cheers James > On 5 Dec 2015, at 4:20 am, Alissa Cooper wrote: >=20 > What is the status of this? Does anyone else have an opinion? >=20 > Thanks, > Alissa >=20 >> On Nov 21, 2015, at 12:36 AM, James Winterbottom = wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Alissa, >>=20 >> I think the only comment of yours that I didn=E2=80=99t comment on = was the one surrounding the LIS understanding the new option but not = being able to provide routing information. >>=20 >> When we were originally writing the document we came to this scenario = and found three options: >> 1) Just return location and ignore the routing request (this is = what the document currently says) >> 2) Pass something back, anything >> 3) Pass something back and say, but indicate it may not be the = droid they are looking for (LoST allows for this approach with the = defaultMappingReturned warning). >>=20 >> The original reason for going with 1 was simplicity. If you requested = routing, got nothing you would try LoST. Similarly if you requested = routing and got a response saying, =E2=80=9Ceh, not sure, try this = one=E2=80=9D, then the requestor would probably try LoST anyway. I guess = that with 3, at least the requestor has something. >>=20 >> If there is general agreement, then I will add an attribute to the = routingInformation element that can indicate if it is default or not, = and require the LIS to always respond with something if it understands = the extension. >>=20 >>=20 >> Cheers >> James >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From nobody Tue Dec 8 17:25:12 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E6C1A01EC for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:25:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q0Z1SHk25CAf for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpgre-esg-01.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 427D01A01D6 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:25:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.239.2.122]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id BB141B8DA2F5B; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:25:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.111]) by fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id tB91P2iu012190 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 9 Dec 2015 02:25:02 +0100 Received: from FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.7.213]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 02:25:01 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: Liaison Statement Management Tool , Roger Marshall , Marc Linsner Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] New Liaison Statement, "Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG" Thread-Index: AQHRLS2pHEUXZ+E1zkmjPV/0mR81oJ7B5enQ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 01:25:01 +0000 Message-ID: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8BADE21632@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <20151202181704.1386.51821.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20151202181704.1386.51821.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.38] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Ben Campbell , Barry Leiba , Marc Linsner , Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Discussion List , "3GPPLiaison@etsi.org" <3GPPLiaison@etsi.org> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] New Liaison Statement, "Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG" X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:25:11 -0000 The underlying problem here is that SA2 has not yet done enough work (as in= none) to see if the IETF drafts meet the 3GPP requirements. The SA2 study = is critical to this. Given that 3GPP usage is pretty much the only use case for these drafts... Keith -----Original Message----- From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Liaison Statement = Management Tool Sent: 02 December 2015 18:17 To: Roger Marshall; Marc Linsner Cc: Ben Campbell; Marc Linsner; Emergency Context Resolution with Internet = Technologies Discussion List; 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org; Barry Leiba Subject: [Ecrit] New Liaison Statement, "Reply LS on eCall support for the = EU from IETF Ecrit WG" Title: Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG Submission D= ate: 2015-12-02 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liai= son/1447/ From: "leopold.murhammer@t-mobile.at" To: Marc Linsner , Roger Marshall Cc: Barry Leiba ,Marc Linsner ,Ben Campbell ,Alissa Cooper ,Roger= Marshall ,Emergency Context Resolution with Inte= rnet Technologies Discussion List , Response Contacts: 3GPP= Liaison@etsi.org Technical Contacts:=20 Purpose: In response Referenced liaison: Liaison Statement on NG eCall support for the EU (https= ://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1412/) Body:=20 1. Overall Description: SA2 would like to thank IETF ECRIT for the incoming LS informing 3GPP of IE= TF work enabling eCall over IETF SIP. SA2 has agreed on a work item (enclos= ed) in SA2#111, see WID (S2-153654) "Evolution to and Interworking with eCa= ll in IMS Stage2". =20 SA2 plans to start work on this topic at SA2#113 and finalize the work by M= ay 2016.=20 2. Actions: To IETF Ecrit WG group. ACTION: TSG SA WG2 respectfully asks IETF ECRIT to take the above informat= ion into account.=20 3. Date of Next TSG-SA WG2 Meetings: TSG-SA WG2 Meeting #113 25-29 January, 2016 St. Kitts TSG-SA WG2 Meeting #114 11-15 April, 2016 Sophia Antipolis, FR Attachments: S2-154463_was_154449_154138_LS_Reply_IETF_cl https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-12-02-3gpp-t= sgsa-sa2-ecrit-reply-ls-on-ecall-support-for-the-eu-from-ietf-ecrit-wg-atta= chment-1.pdf S2-153654-ecall over IMS-r8 https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-12-02-3gpp-t= sgsa-sa2-ecrit-reply-ls-on-ecall-support-for-the-eu-from-ietf-ecrit-wg-atta= chment-2.pdf _______________________________________________ Ecrit mailing list Ecrit@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit From nobody Tue Dec 8 17:47:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B681A7015 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:47:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ip5w69vkiGI6 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B0FB1A700A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.10] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tB91lcX5087089 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:47:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.10] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "DRAGE, Keith" Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 19:47:39 -0600 Message-ID: <0DE9E0FB-0EB2-40F7-A837-29AC8E4A91C9@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8BADE21632@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <20151202181704.1386.51821.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8BADE21632@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.3r5187) Archived-At: Cc: Marc Linsner , Liaison Statement Management Tool , "3GPPLiaison@etsi.org" <3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>, Barry Leiba , Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Discussion List Subject: Re: [Ecrit] New Liaison Statement, "Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG" X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:47:48 -0000 Hi, Alissa is the responsible AD for ecrit. I added her to this reply, = although she may have already gotten it through the 3GPP liaison list. Ben. On 8 Dec 2015, at 19:25, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote: > The underlying problem here is that SA2 has not yet done enough work = > (as in none) to see if the IETF drafts meet the 3GPP requirements. The = > SA2 study is critical to this. > > Given that 3GPP usage is pretty much the only use case for these = > drafts... > > Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Liaison = > Statement Management Tool > Sent: 02 December 2015 18:17 > To: Roger Marshall; Marc Linsner > Cc: Ben Campbell; Marc Linsner; Emergency Context Resolution with = > Internet Technologies Discussion List; 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org; Barry = > Leiba > Subject: [Ecrit] New Liaison Statement, "Reply LS on eCall support for = > the EU from IETF Ecrit WG" > > Title: Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG = > Submission Date: 2015-12-02 URL of the IETF Web page: = > https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1447/ > > From: "leopold.murhammer@t-mobile.at" > To: Marc Linsner , Roger Marshall = > > Cc: Barry Leiba ,Marc Linsner = > ,Ben Campbell ,Alissa Cooper = > ,Roger Marshall = > ,Emergency Context Resolution with Internet = > Technologies Discussion List , Response Contacts: = > 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org Technical Contacts: > Purpose: In response > > Referenced liaison: Liaison Statement on NG eCall support for the EU = > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1412/) > > Body: > 1. Overall Description: > SA2 would like to thank IETF ECRIT for the incoming LS informing 3GPP = > of IETF work enabling eCall over IETF SIP. SA2 has agreed on a work = > item (enclosed) in SA2#111, see WID (S2-153654) "Evolution to and = > Interworking with eCall in IMS Stage2". > > SA2 plans to start work on this topic at SA2#113 and finalize the work = > by May 2016. > > 2. Actions: > To IETF Ecrit WG group. > ACTION: TSG SA WG2 respectfully asks IETF ECRIT to take the above = > information into account. > > 3. Date of Next TSG-SA WG2 Meetings: > TSG-SA WG2 Meeting #113 25-29 January, 2016 St. Kitts > TSG-SA WG2 Meeting #114 11-15 April, 2016 Sophia Antipolis, FR > > Attachments: > > S2-154463_was_154449_154138_LS_Reply_IETF_cl > https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-12-02-3gpp-t= sgsa-sa2-ecrit-reply-ls-on-ecall-support-for-the-eu-from-ietf-ecrit-wg-at= tachment-1.pdf > > S2-153654-ecall over IMS-r8 > https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-12-02-3gpp-t= sgsa-sa2-ecrit-reply-ls-on-ecall-support-for-the-eu-from-ietf-ecrit-wg-at= tachment-2.pdf > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit From nobody Wed Dec 9 03:17:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1FB1A6EDE; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 03:17:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.11.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151209111702.28712.75357.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 03:17:02 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 11:17:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Routing Request Extension for the HELD Protocol Authors : James Winterbottom Hannes Tschofenig Laura Liess Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2015-12-09 Abstract: For cases where location servers have access to emergency routing information they are able to return routing information with the location information if the location request includes a request for the desired routing information. This document specifies an extension to the HELD protocol, updating [RFC5985], to support this funciton. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Dec 17 14:38:31 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9E71B2C85 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:38:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bWeh2-NwiIRA for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sea-mx-02.telecomsys.com (sea-mx-02.telecomsys.com [199.165.246.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEC291B2C65 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from SEA-EXCAS-1.telecomsys.com (exc2010-local1.telecomsys.com [10.32.12.186]) by sea-mx-02.telecomsys.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id tBHMcJlO014810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:38:19 -0800 Received: from SEA-EXMB-2.telecomsys.com ([169.254.2.206]) by SEA-EXCAS-1.telecomsys.com ([10.32.12.186]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:38:19 -0800 From: Roger Marshall To: "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt Thread-Index: AQHRMnMx/Xv1IS9SS0SfgKtnd+/dt57P0Y2A Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:38:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20151209111702.28712.75357.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20151209111702.28712.75357.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.32.12.134] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:38:30 -0000 WG: Is there any work group feedback on James' updates specifically - and on th= e held-routing draft in general? Would like to get some before the year end. -roger. -----Original Message----- From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ie= tf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 3:17 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Interne= t Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Routing Request Extension for the HELD Protocol Authors : James Winterbottom Hannes Tschofenig Laura Liess Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2015-12-09 Abstract: For cases where location servers have access to emergency routing information they are able to return routing information with the location information if the location request includes a request for the desired routing information. This document specifies an extension to the HELD protocol, updating [RFC5985], to support this funciton. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Ecrit mailing list Ecrit@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be pr= ivileged and/or confidential. 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From nobody Fri Dec 18 12:12:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF27D1B3883 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:12:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tesjxXArxKJv for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91EFB1B3870 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9A120D09 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:12:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=BwQZXwT6Yly97/PctqCs0fjhlKc=; b=tMP0fT uMauSYw9I1tekkpt/smkc5ZoIHu+jx7PlyDFwjXa897i3bJk7fbitq3SCPKMm/7p qE4AZpMsUCMGZwrRhdVbasR2frP4OhhxzLZeQ+e0/BXpJJsKsyvgt3/4eSSC15jt lxzM9ESA3qQ13Ggvu4R9b6PL9XNz6v6fVR0Wk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=BwQZXwT6Yly97/P ctqCs0fjhlKc=; b=asBjm++OUt051CI+OCmvCv9hjdAF3CckwAEA3svMoGz7sca KyyCmw8ghRK9N84XxdWiV7pTX18oZUfzRAvdJ9S1KF2Hp/RCECR/aE9EtRneEB8S 4NA1mZU9O20GMIc1FdRUoR7t7CyP7LJ8kla4N0On9XEHRhRpW7luA+YheLM4= X-Sasl-enc: djCB8YZTvoNZOWV02AJeUh9YnAXgSKqfu6KYKZYn5CKp 1450469557 Received: from dhcp-10-150-9-156.cisco.com (unknown [173.38.117.92]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9DBF4C016C4; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:12:37 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8BADE21632@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:12:37 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20151202181704.1386.51821.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8BADE21632@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> To: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: Ben Campbell , Marc Linsner , Liaison Statement Management Tool , "3GPPLiaison@etsi.org" <3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>, Barry Leiba , Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Discussion List Subject: Re: [Ecrit] New Liaison Statement, "Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG" X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 20:12:43 -0000 We=E2=80=99ve known for awhile now that the 3GPP work was going to be = somewhat delayed compared to the IETF work. The plan is to continue = progressing the drafts and for those who are involved in both to keep an = eye out for potential areas where there might be a lack of = harmonization. I think this is implicitly reflected in the liaison = statement the WG received =E2=80=94 it doesn=E2=80=99t ask the WG to = stop what it=E2=80=99s doing. Alissa=20 > On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:25 PM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) = wrote: >=20 > The underlying problem here is that SA2 has not yet done enough work = (as in none) to see if the IETF drafts meet the 3GPP requirements. The = SA2 study is critical to this. >=20 > Given that 3GPP usage is pretty much the only use case for these = drafts... >=20 > Keith >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Liaison = Statement Management Tool > Sent: 02 December 2015 18:17 > To: Roger Marshall; Marc Linsner > Cc: Ben Campbell; Marc Linsner; Emergency Context Resolution with = Internet Technologies Discussion List; 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org; Barry Leiba > Subject: [Ecrit] New Liaison Statement, "Reply LS on eCall support for = the EU from IETF Ecrit WG" >=20 > Title: Reply LS on eCall support for the EU from IETF Ecrit WG = Submission Date: 2015-12-02 URL of the IETF Web page: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1447/ >=20 > From: "leopold.murhammer@t-mobile.at" > To: Marc Linsner , Roger Marshall = > Cc: Barry Leiba ,Marc Linsner = ,Ben Campbell ,Alissa Cooper = ,Roger Marshall ,Emergency = Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Discussion List = , Response Contacts: 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org Technical = Contacts:=20 > Purpose: In response >=20 > Referenced liaison: Liaison Statement on NG eCall support for the EU = (https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1412/) >=20 > Body:=20 > 1. Overall Description: > SA2 would like to thank IETF ECRIT for the incoming LS informing 3GPP = of IETF work enabling eCall over IETF SIP. SA2 has agreed on a work item = (enclosed) in SA2#111, see WID (S2-153654) "Evolution to and = Interworking with eCall in IMS Stage2". >=20 > SA2 plans to start work on this topic at SA2#113 and finalize the work = by May 2016.=20 >=20 > 2. Actions: > To IETF Ecrit WG group. > ACTION: TSG SA WG2 respectfully asks IETF ECRIT to take the = above information into account.=20 >=20 > 3. Date of Next TSG-SA WG2 Meetings: > TSG-SA WG2 Meeting #113 25-29 January, 2016 St. = Kitts > TSG-SA WG2 Meeting #114 11-15 April, 2016 Sophia = Antipolis, FR >=20 > Attachments: >=20 > S2-154463_was_154449_154138_LS_Reply_IETF_cl > = https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-12-02-3gpp-tsgs= a-sa2-ecrit-reply-ls-on-ecall-support-for-the-eu-from-ietf-ecrit-wg-attach= ment-1.pdf >=20 > S2-153654-ecall over IMS-r8 > = https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-12-02-3gpp-tsgs= a-sa2-ecrit-reply-ls-on-ecall-support-for-the-eu-from-ietf-ecrit-wg-attach= ment-2.pdf >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit From nobody Sat Dec 19 10:06:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92BB1A9061 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:06:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.611 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.611 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qx_hBa4u1bmm for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpb1.bt.com (smtpb1.bt.com [62.7.242.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAAF51A905D for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from EPDAG01C-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net (193.113.197.204) by EVMED06-UKBR.bt.com (10.216.161.38) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:06:30 +0000 Received: from EPDAG01C-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net (193.113.197.204) by EPDAG01C-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net (193.113.197.204) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:06:30 +0000 Received: from EPDAG01C-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net ([fe80::2111:c17:d124:53d3]) by EPDAG01C-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net ([fe80::2111:c17:d124:53d3%21]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:06:30 +0000 From: To: , Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt Thread-Index: AQHRMnMx/Xv1IS9SS0SfgKtnd+/dt57P0Y2AgALUYIA= Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:06:30 +0000 Message-ID: <234274f865504c87bae5f471cad077f8@EPDAG01C-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net> References: <20151209111702.28712.75357.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [193.113.108.67] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 18:06:36 -0000 Roger, I'm supportive of the Held- Routing draft and keen to see it progress. It = will certainly help the ETSI work on VoIP emergency calling keep moving for= ward. Thanks and regards John Medland -----Original Message----- From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Roger Marshall Sent: 17 December 2015 22:38 To: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt WG: Is there any work group feedback on James' updates specifically - and on th= e held-routing draft in general? Would like to get some before the year end. -roger. -----Original Message----- From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ie= tf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 3:17 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Interne= t Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Routing Request Extension for the HELD Protocol Authors : James Winterbottom Hannes Tschofenig Laura Liess Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2015-12-09 Abstract: For cases where location servers have access to emergency routing information they are able to return routing information with the location information if the location request includes a request for the desired routing information. This document specifies an extension to the HELD protocol, updating [RFC5985], to support this funciton. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Ecrit mailing list Ecrit@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be pr= ivileged and/or confidential. 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It will certainly help the ETSI work on VoIP emergency calling keep moving forward. > Thanks and regards > > John Medland > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Roger Marshall > Sent: 17 December 2015 22:38 > To: ecrit@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt > > WG: > Is there any work group feedback on James' updates specifically - and on the held-routing draft in general? > Would like to get some before the year end. > > -roger. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 3:17 AM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ecrit@ietf.org > Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : A Routing Request Extension for the HELD Protocol > Authors : James Winterbottom > Hannes Tschofenig > Laura Liess > Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt > Pages : 16 > Date : 2015-12-09 > > Abstract: > For cases where location servers have access to emergency routing > information they are able to return routing information with the > location information if the location request includes a request for > the desired routing information. This document specifies an > extension to the HELD protocol, updating [RFC5985], to support this > funciton. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. 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If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit -- ----------------------------------------- Gunnar Hellström Omnitor gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se +46 708 204 288 From nobody Mon Dec 21 13:23:07 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8E31ACD70 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:23:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ALCsvWfJeP0p for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABF061ACD6E for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DF6207ED for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:23:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=09mKnAHbN388fLjQxYvwYwiST8A=; b=IuKWYC lD6wtHvMxiOY34gTKDZ2S/AjYaOmFgy4Qk11tkrazXVGfMuG/CtNQARV2lRbnkQh R6TIb6Uw9zKdtDiGiPDAc+s0uanyayzCimVZRQBl63AqwcuHNdZNtWaR7zZSNxgE 0yQZSTP9vb3ijonk16XsNk/vykrbIt0SrlDP0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=09mKnAHbN388fLj QxYvwYwiST8A=; b=GY4VZwgu4OnsJ59u+yk5/2X9yc8FswNe/aOoZWHT2WepO6a OypnnE2pVuaYyPTZfCylDrd0rh5/e4osoDUVEHnQf/vJ5rwE/q9uB31jVAqS0S/6 2fgyeMW8yXkSo8INTxED/v8c9nqeWRhiKXABSjkpeso4oWjav5kS7pLbyUfU= X-Sasl-enc: RGtQ92p8c8Pn1Q3oejPp+3M2QvPvNBdvahlSeJ37SWD1 1450732982 Received: from dhcp-10-150-9-149.cisco.com (unknown [173.38.117.84]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1F98DC016C4; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:23:02 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: <5675A9F3.8060309@omnitor.se> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:23:01 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1A09892C-3E56-422C-B6F2-A5F87305572C@cooperw.in> References: <20151209111702.28712.75357.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <234274f865504c87bae5f471cad077f8@EPDAG01C-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net> <5675A9F3.8060309@omnitor.se> To: =?windows-1252?Q?Gunnar_Hellstr=F6m?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:23:06 -0000 Could either or both of you comment specifically on the change from the = -03 to the -04 version regarding the LIS behavior when it cannot obtain = routing information?=20 "A LIS that does understand the routing request element but can't obtain any routing information for the end-device's location MUST set the defaultRoute attribute to true and return a default PSAP or gateway URI along with the determined location information in the locationResponse.=94 Thanks, Alissa > On Dec 19, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Gunnar Hellstr=F6m = wrote: >=20 > +1 >=20 > Gunnar Hellstr=F6m >=20 >=20 >=20 > Den 2015-12-19 kl. 19:06, skrev john.medland@bt.com: >> Roger, >>=20 >> I'm supportive of the Held- Routing draft and keen to see it = progress. It will certainly help the ETSI work on VoIP emergency = calling keep moving forward. >> Thanks and regards >>=20 >> John Medland >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Roger = Marshall >> Sent: 17 December 2015 22:38 >> To: ecrit@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt >>=20 >> WG: >> Is there any work group feedback on James' updates specifically - and = on the held-routing draft in general? >> Would like to get some before the year end. >>=20 >> -roger. >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of = internet-drafts@ietf.org >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 3:17 AM >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Cc: ecrit@ietf.org >> Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt >>=20 >>=20 >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with = Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. >>=20 >> Title : A Routing Request Extension for the HELD = Protocol >> Authors : James Winterbottom >> Hannes Tschofenig >> Laura Liess >> Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04.txt >> Pages : 16 >> Date : 2015-12-09 >>=20 >> Abstract: >> For cases where location servers have access to emergency routing >> information they are able to return routing information with the >> location information if the location request includes a request = for >> the desired routing information. This document specifies an >> extension to the HELD protocol, updating [RFC5985], to support = this >> funciton. >>=20 >>=20 >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing/ >>=20 >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 >>=20 >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04 >>=20 >>=20 >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. >>=20 >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >>=20 >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may = be privileged and/or confidential. 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