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On 4/25/18 9:40 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 3/25/18 2:49 AM, Az Mankin wrote:
>>
>> This starts WGLC for=C2=A0 draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-01,
>> Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change
>>
>> Please send both comments and messages that you support advancement to=

>> this mailing list before April 8.
>=20
> Again, thanks for your patience with my tardy reply. I took another loo=
k
> at the schema. There are a few details I still want to check, but
> overall it seems to be in good shape.

I've looked again at the lost1 schema. This looks slightly off:

   <xs:attributeGroup name=3D"expires">
     <xs:attribute name=3D"expires" use=3D"required">
       <xs:simpleType>
         <xs:union memberTypes=3D"xs:dateTime">
           <xs:simpleType>
             <xs:restriction base=3D"xs:token">
               <xs:enumeration value=3D"NO-CACHE"/>
             </xs:restriction>
           </xs:simpleType>
           <xs:simpleType>
             <xs:restriction base=3D"xs:token">
               <xs:enumeration value=3D"NO-EXPIRATION"/>
             </xs:restriction>
           </xs:simpleType>
         </xs:union>
       </xs:simpleType>
     </xs:attribute>
   </xs:attributeGroup>

As far as I can see (I've never used xs:union before), the dateTime
facet would never get merged in. I think we want this:

   <xs:attributeGroup name=3D"expires">
     <xs:attribute name=3D"expires" use=3D"required">
       <xs:simpleType>
         <xs:union>
           <xs:simpleType>
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   </xs:attributeGroup>

The rest seems OK.

Peter


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On 4/25/18 9:40 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 3/25/18 2:49 AM, Az Mankin wrote:
>>
>> This starts WGLC for=C2=A0 draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-01,
>> Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change
>>
>> Please send both comments and messages that you support advancement to=

>> this mailing list before April 8.
>=20
> Again, thanks for your patience with my tardy reply. I took another loo=
k
> at the schema. There are a few details I still want to check, but
> overall it seems to be in good shape.

And also feedback on the lostPlannedChange1 schema...

1. As I noted in my comments on the lost-rli1 schema, as far as I know
there's no way in XML schema to restrict the use of an extension to a
particular place in a structure defined by another schema. So a comment
like this in the schema really has no force:

<!-- extend the extensionPoint of commonRequestPattern of findService
                                                       to include:  -->

2. The schema does this import, but a prefix is never defined so we
can't actually use the imported constructs:

     <xs:import namespace=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost1"/>

I suggest:

<xs:schema xmlns:xs=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
           xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lostPlannedChange1"
           xmlns:lost=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost1"
           targetNamespace=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lostPlannedChange1"
           elementFormDefault=3D"qualified">

And then:

           <xs:element ref=3D"lost:uri" type=3D"xs:anyURI" />

           <xs:element ref=3D"ttl" type=3D"lost:expires" minOccurs=3D"0" =
/>

           <xs:element name=3D"uriNotStored" type=3D"lost:basicException"=
/>

3. The "invalidAsOf" and "ttl" elements are specified as references, but
the elements referenced are never defined:

           <xs:element ref=3D"invalidAsOf" type=3D"xs:dateTime" />

           <xs:element ref=3D"ttl" type=3D"lost:expires" minOccurs=3D"0" =
/>

Perhaps just change "ref" to "name" in each case? Or define the elements
somewhere in the schema.

4. I think we can simplify the "uriNotStored" content as follows:

OLD

<!-- extend the extensionPoint of extensionContainer to include: -->
           <xs:element ref=3D"uriNotStored"/>
<!-- where -->
           <xs:element name=3D"uriNotStored" type=3D"basicException"/>

NEW

<!-- extend the extensionPoint of extensionContainer to include: -->
           <xs:element name=3D"uriNotStored" type=3D"lost:basicException"=
/>

5. And a nit, there is a "<" missing before xs:group here:

        xs:group ref=3D"plannedChange" minOccurs=3D"1"/>

Hope that helps,

Peter



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Thanks to Peter and the others who responded to the WGLC.

I expect the authors will be updating shortly and include/address the
comments that came in through May 4.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
wrote:

> On 4/25/18 9:40 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > On 3/25/18 2:49 AM, Az Mankin wrote:
> >>
> >> This starts WGLC for  draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-01,
> >> Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change
> >>
> >> Please send both comments and messages that you support advancement to
> >> this mailing list before April 8.
> >
> > Again, thanks for your patience with my tardy reply. I took another look
> > at the schema. There are a few details I still want to check, but
> > overall it seems to be in good shape.
>
> I've looked again at the lost1 schema. This looks slightly off:
>
>    <xs:attributeGroup name="expires">
>      <xs:attribute name="expires" use="required">
>        <xs:simpleType>
>          <xs:union memberTypes="xs:dateTime">
>            <xs:simpleType>
>              <xs:restriction base="xs:token">
>                <xs:enumeration value="NO-CACHE"/>
>              </xs:restriction>
>            </xs:simpleType>
>            <xs:simpleType>
>              <xs:restriction base="xs:token">
>                <xs:enumeration value="NO-EXPIRATION"/>
>              </xs:restriction>
>            </xs:simpleType>
>          </xs:union>
>        </xs:simpleType>
>      </xs:attribute>
>    </xs:attributeGroup>
>
> As far as I can see (I've never used xs:union before), the dateTime
> facet would never get merged in. I think we want this:
>
>    <xs:attributeGroup name="expires">
>      <xs:attribute name="expires" use="required">
>        <xs:simpleType>
>          <xs:union>
>            <xs:simpleType>
>              <xs:restriction base="xs:dateTime"/>
>            </xs:simpleType>
>            <xs:simpleType>
>              <xs:restriction base="xs:token">
>                <xs:enumeration value="NO-CACHE"/>
>                <xs:enumeration value="NO-EXPIRATION"/>
>              </xs:restriction>
>            </xs:simpleType>
>          </xs:union>
>        </xs:simpleType>
>      </xs:attribute>
>    </xs:attributeGroup>
>
> The rest seems OK.
>
> Peter
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks to Peter and the others who responded to the W=
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/address the comments that came in through May 4.=C2=A0 <br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:1=
7 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stpeter@moz=
illa.com" target=3D"_blank">stpeter@mozilla.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 4/25/18 9:40 AM, Peter Sai=
nt-Andre wrote:<br>
&gt; On 3/25/18 2:49 AM, Az Mankin wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; This starts WGLC for=C2=A0 draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-<wbr>chan=
ges-01,<br>
&gt;&gt; Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Please send both comments and messages that you support advancemen=
t to<br>
&gt;&gt; this mailing list before April 8.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Again, thanks for your patience with my tardy reply. I took another lo=
ok<br>
&gt; at the schema. There are a few details I still want to check, but<br>
&gt; overall it seems to be in good shape.<br>
<br>
</span>I&#39;ve looked again at the lost1 schema. This looks slightly off:<=
br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:attributeGroup name=3D&quot;expires&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:attribute name=3D&quot;expires&quot; use=3D&quot=
;required&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:union memberTypes=3D&quot;xs:dateT=
ime&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:restriction base=3D&=
quot;xs:token&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:enumeration v=
alue=3D&quot;NO-CACHE&quot;/&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:restriction&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:restriction base=3D&=
quot;xs:token&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:enumeration v=
alue=3D&quot;NO-EXPIRATION&quot;/&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:restriction&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:union&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:attribute&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:attributeGroup&gt;<br>
<br>
As far as I can see (I&#39;ve never used xs:union before), the dateTime<br>
facet would never get merged in. I think we want this:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:attributeGroup name=3D&quot;expires&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:attribute name=3D&quot;expires&quot; use=3D&quot=
;required&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:union&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:restriction base=3D&=
quot;xs:dateTime&quot;/&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:restriction base=3D&=
quot;xs:token&quot;&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:enumeration v=
alue=3D&quot;NO-CACHE&quot;/&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;xs:enumeration v=
alue=3D&quot;NO-EXPIRATION&quot;/&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:restriction&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:union&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:simpleType&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:attribute&gt;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;/xs:attributeGroup&gt;<br>
<br>
The rest seems OK.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Peter<br>
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The WGLCs on our remaining three documents ended.

draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea
draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location

draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes
There's been a revision of draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea for the WGLC
comments (yay).

We got some last and valuable comments, including a schema expert review,
on the remaining two and we await revised drafts for those.

Stay tuned for requests for publication, starting with the data-only-ea.
We will conclude the working group ***while keeping the mailing list open
as agreed*** once the drafts are through IETF and IESG review.

Thanks everyone,

Roger and Allison

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=A0 <br><br>draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea<br><h2><font size=3D"2"><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight:normal">draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location</span></font></=
h2><p>draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes<br></p></div>There&#39;s been a=
 revision of=C2=A0draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea for the WGLC comments (yay)=
.<br><div><div><br><div>We got some last and valuable comments, including a=
 schema expert review, on the remaining two and we await revised drafts for=
 those.<br><br>Stay tuned for requests for publication, starting with the d=
ata-only-ea.=C2=A0 We will conclude the working group ***while keeping the =
mailing list open as agreed*** once the drafts are through IETF and IESG re=
view.<br><br></div><div>Thanks everyone,<br><br></div><div>Roger and Alliso=
n<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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