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To: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>, ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>
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I don't see any changes in the latest draft related to the email I sent to =
the list on 4/5/2018.  Perhaps you missed it?

Dan

From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Brian Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:11 PM
To: ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org>
Subject: [Ecrit] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-02.=
txt

I have refreshed this draft and think it is ready for publication.  Note th=
at the biggest remaining item was finished in -01 which was the replacement=
 XML schema for LoST, as well as an XML extension schema for this document.

Oh rats, I forgot to credit Peter St Andre for helping with the review of t=
he schemas.  I will get that done before publication.

Brian



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From: internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-02.txt
Date: October 23, 2018 at 3:08:09 PM EDT
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet=
 Technologies WG of the IETF.

       Title           : Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change
       Author          : Brian Rosen
                Filename        : draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-02.=
txt
                Pages           : 17
                Date            : 2018-10-23

Abstract:
  This document defines an extension to LoST (RFC5222) that allows a
  planned change to the data in the LoST server to occur.  Records that
  previously were valid will become invalid at a date in the future,
  and new locations will become valid after the date.  The extension
  adds two elements to the <findservice> request: A URI to be used to
  inform the LIS that previously valid locations will be invalid after
  the planned change date, and add a date which requests the server to
  perform validation as of the date specified.  It also adds an
  optional Time-To-Live element to the response, which informs clients
  about the current expected lifetime of the validation.  This document
  also provides a conventional XML schema for LoST, as backwards
  compatible alternative to the RelaxNG schema in RFC5222


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don&#8217;t see any changes in the latest draft re=
lated to the email I sent to the list on 4/5/2018.&nbsp; Perhaps you missed=
 it?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ecrit &lt;ecrit-bounces@ietf.org&gt; <b=
>On Behalf Of </b>
Brian Rosen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ECRIT &lt;ecrit@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Ecrit] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-chan=
ges-02.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have refreshed this draft and think it is ready fo=
r publication. &nbsp;Note that the biggest remaining item was finished in -=
01 which was the replacement XML schema for LoST, as well as an XML extensi=
on schema for this document.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Oh rats, I forgot to credit Peter St Andre for helpi=
ng with the review of the schemas. &nbsp;I will get that done before public=
ation.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Brian<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,=
sans-serif">From: </span>
</b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><a href=3D=
"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a></span><o:p><=
/o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,=
sans-serif">Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-02.t=
xt</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,=
sans-serif">Date: </span>
</b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">October 23=
, 2018 at 3:08:09 PM EDT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,=
sans-serif">To: </span>
</b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org">i-d-announce@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span><o:p=
></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,=
sans-serif">Cc: </span>
</b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><a href=3D=
"mailto:ecrit@ietf.org">ecrit@ietf.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,=
sans-serif">Reply-To:
</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><a =
href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>,
<a href=3D"mailto:ecrit@ietf.org">ecrit@ietf.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet=
 Technologies WG of the IETF.<br>
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: 2018-10-23<br>
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Abstract:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;This document defines an extension to LoST (RFC5222) that allow=
s a<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;planned change to the data in the LoST server to occur. &nbsp;R=
ecords that<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;previously were valid will become invalid at a date in the futu=
re,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;and new locations will become valid after the date. &nbsp;The e=
xtension<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;adds two elements to the &lt;findservice&gt; request: A URI to =
be used to<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;inform the LIS that previously valid locations will be invalid =
after<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;the planned change date, and add a date which requests the serv=
er to<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;perform validation as of the date specified. &nbsp;It also adds=
 an<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;optional Time-To-Live element to the response, which informs cl=
ients<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;about the current expected lifetime of the validation. &nbsp;Th=
is document<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;also provides a conventional XML schema for LoST, as backwards<=
br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;compatible alternative to the RelaxNG schema in RFC5222<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-c=
hanges/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-cha=
nges/</a><br>
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/a><br>
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ned-changes-02">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-lost=
-planned-changes-02</a><br>
<br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br>
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I am happy to see that many of the issues I previously noted have been addr=
essed in the latest draft.  There are some things that I believe still need=
 attention:

As previously noted, the schema defines groups named "similarLocation" and =
"completeLocation", but this does not actually define the elements having t=
hose names.  As far as I can tell, there is nothing in the schema that defi=
nes these actual elements as they appear in the examples.  Instead, the sch=
ema appears to only add a sequence of <location> elements at the locationVa=
lidation extension point, followed by another extension point (which would =
be redundant).  Except I'm not even sure that is correct without including =
the LoST namespace in the ref=3D"location".  (similarLocation also adds the=
 similarLocationsLimited attribute, which I believe would apply to the loca=
tionValidation element directly as it is currently defined).

The location in the request in the example in section 5.2 was replaced with=
 a location having fully spelled values, which I had asked for.  However, i=
t includes the prefix "ca:" in front of the elements, which is not defined =
in that particular document.  These prefixes can be removed in this request=
 because the parent civicAddress element declares the correct xmlns=3D attr=
ibute (the response is correct in the way it uses the prefixes).

The location of the request in the example in section 5.1 was not updated, =
but I believe it should have been.  It also has a namespace prefix problem =
with the country element.  Also, whitespace should be added between the val=
idationLocation and returnAdditionalLocation attributes in this request.

In the response in the example in section 5.1, the profile attribute was ad=
ded as suggested, however it is incorrectly shown outside of the completeLo=
cation element tag.  It is shown correctly in the response in 5.2.

returnAdditionalLocation was made an attribute as I requested.  It is decla=
red in the lost-rli1 target namespace, which I believe is the way we want t=
o do it, but appears in the examples without a namespace.  In the example i=
n 5.2, it appears in the location element instead of in the findService ele=
ment.

Here is an attempt at correcting the request for 5.2 considering the issues=
 above:

<findService xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost1"
  xmlns:rli=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost-rli1"
  validateLocation=3D"true"
  rli:returnAdditionalLocation=3D"any">
  <location id=3D"587cd3880" profile=3D"civic">
    <civicAddress
      xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:pidf:geopriv10:civicAddr">
      <country>US</ca:country>
      <A1>WA</A1>
      <A2>KING COUNTY</A2>
      <A3>SEATTLE</A3>
      <RD>15TH</RD>
      <STS>AVENUE</STS>
      <HNO>6000</HNO>
      <PC>98106</PC>
      <PCN>SEATTLE</PCN>
    </civicAddress>
  </location>
  <service>urn:service:sos</service>
</findService>


Dan


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet=
 Technologies WG of the IETF.

        Title           : A LoST extension to return complete and similar l=
ocation info
        Authors         : Roger Marshall
                          Jeff Martin
                          Brian Rosen
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-06.txt
	Pages           : 17
	Date            : 2018-10-23

Abstract:
   This document introduces a new way to provide returned location
   information in LoST responses that is either of a completed or
   similar form to the original input civic location, based on whether
   valid or invalid civic address elements are returned within the
   findServiceResponse message.  This document defines a new extension
   to the findServiceResponse message within the LoST protocol [RFC5222]
   that enables the LoST protocol to return a completed civic address
   element set for a valid location response, and one or more suggested
   sets of similar location information for invalid LoST responses.
   These two types of civic addresses are referred to as either
   "complete location" or "similar location", and are included as a
   compilation of CAtype xml elements within the existing LoST
   findServiceResponse message structure.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-06
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-06

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-06


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