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From: "Rik Drummond" <drummond@onramp.net>
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From: Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu>
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It has come to the attention of the Applications Area Directors
that one or more Applications area working groups have elected
to not meet in Adelaide, and instead to hold an "interim meeting"
in the United States, presumably because of distance and/or cost issues.

IETF is an international organization, and it is IETF's longstanding 
practice to hold its meetings in various locations around the planet.
This serves both to encourage wider participation in IETF and also
to more fairly distribute travel costs and inconvenience (over time) 
among all participants.  The scheduleing of an interim WG meeting in 
the US in lieu of a WG meeting in Adelaide undermines this policy.  
This is insulting to non-US participants of IETF (many of whom have 
attended meetings in the US for years), embarassing to IETF as 
a whole, and a threat to IETF's international stature.

Even if a working group has few participants outside the United
States, a working group does not work in isolation from other
working groups.  Attendance at IETF meetings is an invaluable 
mechanism for cross-group collaboration.  

RFC 2418 states:

   Interim meetings are subject to the
   same rules for advance notification, reporting, open participation,
   and process, which apply to other working group meetings.

Since normal working group meetings require advance notification
via email to the entire IETF list, and the process for getting a meeting
slot involves prior approval of the Area Directors, the same
requirements apply to interim working group meetings.  Part of the 
reason for prior approval being required is to ensure that the 
locations of the meetings are not being chosen to favor certain 
participants over others.  

There have been several violations of this policy since publication
of RFC 2418.

Therefore,

- All interim meetings within the Applications Area which were not
  previously and explicitly approved by the Applications Area Directors, 
  are hereby cancelled.

- No Applications Area group will hold any interim meeting prior
  to April 15.

- No Applications Area group which does not hold a meeting in 
  Adelaide, will hold any interim meeting prior to July 31.
  (i.e. prior to the Pittsburg IETF meeting)

- This applies to all face to face meetings held for the purpose 
  of conducting working group discussion and to which the working 
  group is invited, even if labelled "informal" or otherwise 
  labelled to distinguish them from official working group meetings.

- Exceptions to this policy may be made for recently chartered groups,
  but Area Director approval is still required for such groups to
  schedule interim meetings.


for the Applications Area Directors,

Keith Moore


From owner-ietf-ediint@imc.org  Wed Feb 16 10:00:56 2000
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From: "Rik Drummond" <drummond@onramp.net>
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The as1 document and the requirements documents have moved through iesg
final call. they will be voted on in the iesg in the next few weeks.. if
(when) they pass we will have two rfc's. the as2 document is almost ready
for another version release and for your review.  we are going to start work
on defining additional headers in xml as the auto industry suggested in the
next few weeks. things are finally starting to move. the long wait for
s/mime to get approved in ietf is over and we are moving forward.... best
regards, rik

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CEO Drummond Group     /
v: 817.294.7339        /
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www.drummondgroup.com  /
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From: "Rik Drummond" <drummond@onramp.net>
To: <ietf-ediint@imc.org>
Subject: ebXML and EDIINT coordination
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:31:33 -0600
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ebXML is an effort sponsored by the un/cefact and oasis. I lead the
transport and routing team which will defining XML headers and transport
specifications for the next generation of EC. I believe this effort is our
only chance to establish the next generation of EC in this decade. if you
are interested in participating we can do it two ways. I can keep this list
in synch with the ebXML list or you may join the ebXML list by going to the
ebxml.org site and looking under workgroups and then find the transport and
packaging area to enroll in it's list serv.

we will be defining the specifications, and releasing them down both the
ebXML and the EDIINT avenues. they will be jointly developed *unofficially*
by both groups.

please let me know your thoughts.

Best regards, rik


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CEO Drummond Group     /
v: 817.294.7339        /
f: 817.294.795         /
www.drummondgroup.com  /
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From owner-ietf-ediint@imc.org  Fri Feb 18 08:02:26 2000
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Rik,

I will join the mailing list from the ebXML site.



Joe

Rik Drummond wrote:
> 
> ebXML is an effort sponsored by the un/cefact and oasis. I lead the
> transport and routing team which will defining XML headers and transport
> specifications for the next generation of EC. I believe this effort is our
> only chance to establish the next generation of EC in this decade. if you
> are interested in participating we can do it two ways. I can keep this list
> in synch with the ebXML list or you may join the ebXML list by going to the
> ebxml.org site and looking under workgroups and then find the transport and
> packaging area to enroll in it's list serv.
> 
> we will be defining the specifications, and releasing them down both the
> ebXML and the EDIINT avenues. they will be jointly developed *unofficially*
> by both groups.
> 
> please let me know your thoughts.
> 
> Best regards, rik
> 
> ////////////////////////
> Rik Drummond           /
> CEO Drummond Group     /
> v: 817.294.7339        /
> f: 817.294.795         /
> www.drummondgroup.com  /
> ////////////////////////

-- 
Joe McVerry
American Coders Ltd.
POBox 97462
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http://www.americancoders.com
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and xBaseJ - xBase Database Engine For Java


From owner-ietf-ediint@imc.org  Fri Feb 18 09:32:21 2000
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Hello Rik,

             I have joined the mailing list from the ebXML site.

    All the best,

Best Regards,
Siju Joseph,

Rik Drummond wrote:

> ebXML is an effort sponsored by the un/cefact and oasis. I lead the
> transport and routing team which will defining XML headers and transport
> specifications for the next generation of EC. I believe this effort is our
> only chance to establish the next generation of EC in this decade. if you
> are interested in participating we can do it two ways. I can keep this list
> in synch with the ebXML list or you may join the ebXML list by going to the
> ebxml.org site and looking under workgroups and then find the transport and
> packaging area to enroll in it's list serv.
>
> we will be defining the specifications, and releasing them down both the
> ebXML and the EDIINT avenues. they will be jointly developed *unofficially*
> by both groups.
>
> please let me know your thoughts.
>
> Best regards, rik
>
> ////////////////////////
> Rik Drummond           /
> CEO Drummond Group     /
> v: 817.294.7339        /
> f: 817.294.795         /
> www.drummondgroup.com  /
> ////////////////////////






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The Delaware Valley EC / EDI Roundtable, Inc.
                   * Committed to Your Success *
                        Post Office Box 502
               Broomall, Pennsylvania USA 19008-0502
                   URL: http://www.eRoundTable.org
                        Email: DER@ECDI.ORG


Friday, 19th February, 1999

Greetings.

Announcing the next D. V. EC/EDI Roundtable meeting on
Wednesday afternoon, 29th March, 2000, 12:30pm at
the Great Valley campus of Penn State University.

Please pardon any duplicate receipt of this information.  
Also, please pass this on to a friend or colleague.

Announcing the dates for other scheduled DV EC/EDI
Roundtable events this year:

- Wednesday afternoon, 29th March, 2000, 12:00pm;

- Wednesday afternoon, 3rd May, 2000, 12:00pm;

- Wednesday afternoon, 21st June, 2000, 12:00pm; and

- our 2nd annual EC Valley 2000 all day symposium
  on Wednesday, 20th September, 2000.


The theme of our March 29th event is ...

The Great EC Experiment - Who got it Right?

- Where Do We Go From Here?

- Millions of dollars have been spent;

- millions made;

- millions earned; 

- millions lost;

- millions re-invested ... 

...We are several years into the great 'online experiment'
that many B2C and B2B businesses have undertaken.  What 
lessons have been learned?  What's working? What's not?  
Who got it right?  What does the future hold?

Come out to hear an Internet marketing strategist, and 
on-line service providers from the B2B and B2C markets 
share their experiences and recommendations on the hottest 
topic in the business and high tech arenas.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The theme of our May 3rd, 2000 event is ...

eCommerce Implementation - Getting it right.

sessions will include:

- Case Studies from EC service providers;

- Case Studies of other, more traditional businesses 
  who have successfully deployed EC solutions within 
  their organization.  

More info will follow.  Please watch for our snail-mail 
announcement due to hit the streets this week.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The Delaware Valley EC/EDI Roundtable, Inc. is a 
not-for-profit corporation of people interested in 
Electronic Commerce and Electronic Data Interchange.  
The organization works in cooperation with private industry, 
government, educators and the healthcare industry to further 
understanding and development of EC/EDI concepts and 
practices.  

In September, 1999,  along with the Internet Business Alliance, 
we hosted a very successful, all day conference, 'EC Valley 99', 
which focused on E-Commerce issues and evolving trends.  The 
conference was very well attended and received tremendous 
feedback, which highlights the wealth of talent and interest 
in eCommerce that is prevalent within the Delaware Valley.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Registration is FREE for Members!
                $50 for Non-Members; and
                 $5 for Non-Member Students.

Please bring your questions, comments & case issues for resolution at
the roundtable sessions immediately following each session.  You will
not want to miss these presentations.  Reserve a seat now!


REGISTER: any (one) of three easy ways - 
---------

fill out the included Registration Form (below); and

 1. fax it to the WC ECRC at 610.918.4545; or
 2. fax it to Jessica Logan of EDI-ImpleMentors at 610.459.5791; or
 3. email it to DER@ECDI.ORG
    NOTE: fax or email ONLY the Registration Form!! Please.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

               The Delaware Valley EDI Roundtable, Inc.
                          Registration Form

             The Great EC Experiment - Who got it Right?

                                 on

                   Wednesday, 29th March, 2000
                     12:00 pm to 5:00 pm at the
                The Pennsylvania State University
                        Great Valley Campus
       30 East Swedesford Road - Malvern, Pennsylvania 19355 
             PSU General Information: 610.648.3200 
                  please see directions, below ...

Registration Fee . . . please check one:

   Free for Members ___
$50 for Non-Members ___
    $5 for Students ___

Payment Method (please check one):
      VISA: __
MasterCard: __
     Check: __

    Card #: _________________ ** you may CALL or FAX in credit
Expiration: ____ /____           card info if you prefer. **
 Signature: _________________

Sessions start promptly at 1:00 pm.

   Name: ____________________

  Title: ____________________

 Entity: ____________________

Address: ____________________

         ____________________

         ____________________

VoicePhone: _____________

 FAX Phone: _____________

 E-Mail ID: _____________

To attend: please fax this form to Robert Richter @ 
           610.459.5791 (FAX); e-mail to DER@ECDI.ORG; or
           fax to WC ECRC @ 610.918.4545 (FAX).

If paying by check, also mail a copy, with remittance to:

         Delaware Valley EDI Roundtable, Inc.
         Post Office Box 502
         Broomall, PA 19008-0502

More info, please contact Jim Walsh on 610.918.4500, or
                          Frank McGrail on 610.359.7217 or 
                          Robert Richter on 610.325.9755.

Thank you for your time and consideration.  See you at PSU Great Valley
on Wednesday at noon, the 29th of March, 2000.  Please pass this
announcement along to a friend or colleague.


Kindest Regards,

Robert J. Richter, Jr.
Advisor and Past ChairPerson
Delaware Valley EC/EDI Roundtable, Inc.

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Directions to Penn State Great Valley

      
From New Jersey and East, Reading and West:

Take the Pennsylvania Turnpike to Exit 24 at Valley Forge.  Follow Route
202 South to the Great Valley Exit (Route 29 North). At the first light,
turn left onto Swedesford Road, then take first left into Penn State
Great Valley. 

From West Chester, Delaware, And South:

Take Route 202 North to the Great Valley Exit (Route 29 North). Turn
right twice onto Route 29 North and continue to next traffic light.
Turn right onto Swedesford Road and take second right into Penn State
Great Valley. 

From Philadelphia:

Follow the Schuylkill Expressway(Route 76) West to Valley Forge.  Take
Route 202 South to the Great Valley exit(Route 29 North). At the first
light, turn left onto Swedesford Road, then take first left into Penn
State Great Valley. 

From King of Prussia, Norristown:

Follow Route 202 South to the Great Valley exit(Route 29 North). At the
first light, turn left onto Swedesford Road, the take first left into
Penn State Great Valley.


