AS3?....

Sent for Bill Morgan by David = Peet:

There currently is no = "AS3".

For the past three years, bTrade has been facilitating a healthy = exchange of opinions in this great debate.

Secure FTP is an established technology that leverages SSL to protect the = session.

"SMIME-ing" the payload is easily achievable for a nested security schema, as is = DES, 3DES, AES, PGP, etc.

Message Disposition Notifications are foreign to FTP servers and would thus = present a formidable barrier to adoption by current S/FTP = environments.

Finally, there is still the great firewall policy debates relating to exposing FTP ports to the Internet.

That is why Virtual Private Networks were created, to leverage the Internet = for secure business communications without the risk of exposing FTP = ports.

Those of us who have provided EDIINT solutions over the past two or three = years have always understood these "FTP" challenges and have responded in = kind to market demands. To date, the market has demanded Secure FTP, = AS1, and AS2.

An AS3 offering can quickly be released by most of us, but adoption rates = will not be nearly as high as AS1 or AS2, if AS3 gains traction at = all.

However, AS3 offerings may provide a degree of consternation by those trying to = simplify and consolidate secure Internet communications.

Regarding ebXML, the Message, Routing, and Transportation standard is agnostic to = SMTP, HTTP, or FTP communications.

Furthermore, the ebXML protocol was carefully crafted to be neutral of all transport protocols.

HTTP, FTP, SMTP or any other "P" can be used within an ebXML = framework.

By the way, did you hear about bTrade's AS4?

Bill Morgan

Executive Vice President,

Chief Solutions Officer

bTrade, inc.

www.bTrade.com

972.580.2900

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-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Vesper [mailto:gvesper@cyclonecommerce.com]
Sent: Thursday, February = 28, 2002 2:18 PM
To: David Fischer; Jeff = Lightcap; ietf-ediint@imc.org
Cc: Dave Bennett
Subject: RE: = AS3?....

I strongly = suggest we take up the issue of demand. Cyclone has been servicing market = demand for this capability for several years in production hardened = environments and would be happy to argue in favor of FTP as a valid transport for = EDIINT.<= /p>

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Alternatively, = the role of FTP within the ebXML standard could be elevated to achieve the same = desired functionality with the advantage of what ebXML brings to the = table.<= /p>

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Either way, the = absence of FTP as a transport for secure B2B messaging is an obvious hole. = FTP is a valid transport with an enormous amount of existing = infrastructure - it ought to be elevated in the appropriate standards, be it EDIINT, ebXML, = or both.

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I'm happy to = actively participate in any initiatives in this regard.<= /p>

Cheers,<= /p>

-Greg.<= /p>

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Greg Vesper
Cyclone Commerce
Director, Product Management
480-627-1828

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of David Fischer
Sent: Thursday, February = 28, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Jeff Lightcap; ietf-ediint@imc.org
Subject: RE: = AS3?....<= /p>

There is no proposed AS3 standard. On several = occasions, vendor's have requested an AS3 standard based upon FTP. Thus far, = we have not seen enough end-user demand to proceed with this, but if such demand becomes evident, we could.<= /p>

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Regards,

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David Fischer<= /p>

Drummond Group.<= /p>

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Jeff Lightcap
Sent: Thursday, February = 28, 2002 12:47 PM
To: = 'ietf-ediint@imc.org'
Subject: = AS3?....<= /p>

Anyone know what is proposed for AS3. Trailblazer Systems = is implementing FTP with S/MIME. They also mention AS3 on their web site as = a proposed standard: http://www.as400ftp.com/latestnews_detail.cfm?number=3D= 2<= /p>

I can't find anything about this proposed standard anywhere = except for the mention on the page indicated above. <= /p>

Jeffrey Lightcap
Senior Application = Engineer
Cleo Communications
www.cleo.com
jlightcap@cleo.com
1-815-654-8110 ext = 2735 <= /p>

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