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From: Dave Killough <killougd1@comcast.net>
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When there is no disposition-notification-to header in the client request, I am not returning an MDN.  

What should I return instead?  There's one web server I'm testing that will generate an HTTP error if I don't provide some content-type.  

RFC 2298 was meant for email and does not discuss HTTP. 

Will I be ok with the following?   : 
   
    ##########################################################################
    # The posting client has not requested an MDN.  None will be sent.
    #
    # EDIINT-AS2 DRAFT 1-2003 7.6 excerpt:
    # The HTTP server-side application may respond with an unsolicited 
    # multipart/report as a message body that the HTTP client might not have 
    # solicited, but this may be discarded by the client. Applications should 
    # avoid emitting unsolicited receipt replies because bandwidth or 
    # processing limitations might have led administrators to suspend asking 
    # for acknowledgements.
    #
    print "content-type: text/plain\n";
    print "connection: close\n";
    print "\nposted without MDN request (disposition-notification-to)";

Thanks,
Dave

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When there is no disposition-notification-to header 
in the client request, I am not returning an MDN.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What should I return instead?&nbsp; There's one web 
server I'm testing that will generate an HTTP error if I don't provide some 
content-type.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RFC 2298 was meant for email and does not discuss 
HTTP. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Will I be ok with the following?&nbsp;&nbsp; 
:&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
##########################################################################<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
# The posting client has not requested an MDN.&nbsp; None will be 
sent.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; #<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # EDIINT-AS2 DRAFT 1-2003 
7.6 excerpt:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # The HTTP server-side application may 
respond with an unsolicited <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # multipart/report as a 
message body that the HTTP client might not have <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # 
solicited, but this may be discarded by the client. Applications should 
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # avoid emitting unsolicited receipt replies because 
bandwidth or <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # processing limitations might have led 
administrators to suspend asking <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # for 
acknowledgements.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; #<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; print 
"content-type: text/plain\n";<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; print "connection: 
close\n";<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; print "\nposted without MDN request 
(disposition-notification-to)";</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From: Dave Killough <killougd1@comcast.net>
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I think "5.2.3  Lengthy message bodies" got cut out of the draft.

    5.2.2   Epilogue must be empty
              In [3] section 3.7.2, it is explicitly noted that multiparts
must have null
              epilogues.
?????????????????
              In [4], sections 5.4.1, options for large file processing are
discussed for
              SMTP transport.
              For HTTP, large files should be handled correctly by the TCP
layer.
              However, [3] sections 3.5 and 3.6 discuss some options for
              compressing or chunking  entities to be transferred.
              [3] section 8.1.2.2 discusses a pipelining option that is
useful for
              segmenting large amounts of data.




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Working software that is available to this group would help clarify and fine-tune the draft.  Unless anyone has this to share, I am willing to develop the software.  

The feaure set would include:
- AS2 transfer of files over the Internet (sender directory to receiver directory)
- Portability between Unix, Linux, and Windows 
- A user interface for configuration and operation, and monitoring
- Documentation
- Message and MDN tracking
- Certificate management
- A test run to demonstrate compliancy with the standard
- Ability to use Apache or IIS for HTTP services

I would start with the AS2 S/MIME variant, then PGP. Optional features would not be a priority.  AS1 would come last if at all.  The immediate goal is to have baseline compliancy with AS2.

Based on the value this software would probably have to the Internet community as a whole, it would be also made available for free under some kind of open source license.  This should accelerate adoption of the standard.  

It is cost-prohibitive for me to participate in interoperability testing with commercial vendors.  Perhaps there are members who own licensed AS2 products that can help with these kinds of tests.  

Thanks,
Dave Killough
Programmer
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Working software that is available to this group 
would help clarify and fine-tune the draft.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Unless anyone has this to share, I am willing to&nbsp;develop the 
software.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The feaure set would include:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-&nbsp;AS2 transfer of files over the Internet 
(sender directory to receiver directory)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Portability between Unix, Linux, and Windows 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- A user interface for&nbsp;configuration and 
operation, and monitoring</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Documentation</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Message and MDN tracking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Certificate management</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- A test run to demonstrate compliancy with the 
standard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Ability to use Apache or IIS for HTTP 
services</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would start with the AS2 S/MIME variant, then 
PGP.&nbsp;Optional features would not be a priority.&nbsp; AS1 would come last 
if at all.&nbsp; The immediate goal is to have baseline compliancy with 
AS2.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Based on the value this software would probably 
have to the Internet community as a whole, it would be also made available for 
free under some kind of open source license.&nbsp; This should accelerate 
adoption of the standard.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is cost-prohibitive for me to participate in 
interoperability testing with commercial vendors.&nbsp; Perhaps there are 
members who own licensed AS2 products that can help with these kinds of 
tests.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave Killough</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Programmer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Williamstown, NJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>USA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
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