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Earlier today I had a chance to speak with Rik Drummond, EDIINT working
group chair.  We discussed the future of this group given that there has
been no evidence of activity on this mailing list for quite some time.  If
work is being done it's not being done here, and that's a problem.

Earlier this year, Rik and I discussed a charter update which included
submission of the AS3 document to the IESG by December 2005.  In our
conversation today Rik and I came to an agreement that your progress on this
document will determine if the group continues or not.  That is, if the
milestone is not met the group WILL be closed as a result of inactivity and
this missed milestone unless there are some really extenuating
circumstances.

Normally, one missed milestone isn't a big deal.  However, the lack of
participation in this group has me deeply concerned.  IETF standards require
evidence of community consensus; they can't happen if there's no community
or no consensus.  You, the members of this working group, must demonstrate
that both exist, and to meet your December deadline you really need to start
wrapping things up NOW.

Let's get this work finished!

-Scott-
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I noticed this no-charge dating place filled that has a bunch of sex-addicts

No flowers, no walks on the beach, just get together for some action :)
There might also be a few people who want something serious though
And if your into a long-term relationship, or a one-night-stand, you got it ;)

Whatever you might enjoy


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getmeoff:http://wheelwalls.com/extra/datingstars/getmeoff.php



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2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process?

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If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a
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I'd like to see it moved forward in the standards process.
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Hi

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It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the =
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=20

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=20

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=20

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We would like to see the standard move forward.  We have customers
looking at moving to AS3 in the next year.
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Andy

________________________________

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Hi

=20

It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the
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=20

1. has concerns about it moving forward=20

=20

or=20

=20

2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process?

=20

If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a
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Hi,
=20
Following the AS3 certification this year,  and especially our last =
conference call, I've been in touch with Terry
Harding to discuss scenarios that were part of the certification process =
but that, according to me, were not
detailed engough in the draft  (hosting,  not hosting the FTP server =
etc...).
I know that this is not directly linked to AS3 messages format but more =
to the binding with FTP, however I think
that this should be addressed in the standard which must be exhaustive =
enough for somebody implementing
AS3 to sucessfully go through the certification. This is my point and I =
would be very pleased to discuss this
with the group.
I know that Terry had worked on it but I don't know if he had time to =
publish a new draft (I haven't received any new
document through the e-list).
=20
 By the way, I agree with Debra, we've all put a lot of development and =
testing effort into our product for the AS3
support and I'd like to see it moved forward in the standard process.=20
=20

	________________________________

-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]De la part de Debra Petta
Envoy=E9 : vendredi 21 octobre 2005 18:27
=C0 : ietf-ediint@imc.org
Cc : Dale Moberg
Objet : RE: Moving AS3 forward.


I'd like to see it moved forward in the standards process.
=20
We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3 =
products
and it would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3.
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Dale Moberg
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 AM
To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
Subject: Moving AS3 forward.



Hi

=20

It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the =
list that either=20

=20

1. has concerns about it moving forward=20

=20

or=20

=20

2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process?

=20

If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a =
message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get =
some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record.

=20

We can then lobby Rik D.

=20

Thanks


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class=3D208033816-21102005>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D208033816-21102005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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especially our last conference call, I've been in touch with=20
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class=3D208033816-21102005>Harding to discuss&nbsp;scenarios that were =
part of the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D208033816-21102005>detailed engough in the draft =
&nbsp;(hosting,&nbsp; not=20
hosting the FTP server etc...).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D208033816-21102005>I=20
know&nbsp;that this is not directly linked to AS3 messages format but =
more to=20
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this should be addressed in the standard which must&nbsp;be exhaustive=20
enough&nbsp;for somebody implementing</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D208033816-21102005>AS3&nbsp;to&nbsp;sucessfully go through the=20
certification. This is my point and I would be very pleased to discuss=20
this</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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the group.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D208033816-21102005>I know=20
that Terry had&nbsp;worked on it but I don't know if he had time to =
publish a=20
new draft (I haven't received any new</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D208033816-21102005>document through the =
e-list).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D208033816-21102005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D208033816-21102005>&nbsp;By the way,&nbsp;I agree =
with&nbsp;Debra, we've=20
all put a lot of&nbsp;development and testing effort into our product =
for the=20
AS3</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D208033816-21102005>support and&nbsp;I'd like to see it moved =
forward in=20
the standard process.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIR><B><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>
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  owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]<B>De la=20
  part de</B> Debra Petta<BR><B>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</B> vendredi 21 octobre =
2005=20
  18:27<BR><B>=C0&nbsp;:</B> ietf-ediint@imc.org<BR><B>Cc&nbsp;:</B> =
Dale=20
  Moberg<BR><B>Objet&nbsp;:</B> RE: Moving AS3 =
forward.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D328372416-21102005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I'd=20
  like to see it moved forward in the standards =
process.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D328372416-21102005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D328372416-21102005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into =
our AS3=20
  products</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D328372416-21102005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>and=20
  it would be nice to see some market acceptance for =
AS3.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]<B>On=20
  Behalf Of </B>Dale Moberg<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 21, 2005 =
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. would like to see =
it be moved=20
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you are an =
implementer or=20
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concerning your=20
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I second that.
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Tony Andersson
A x w a y.
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[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Debra Petta
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To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
Cc: Dale Moberg
Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward.


I'd like to see it moved forward in the standards process.
=20
We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3 =
products
and it would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3.
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Dale Moberg
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 AM
To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
Subject: Moving AS3 forward.



Hi

=20

It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the =
list that either=20

=20

1. has concerns about it moving forward=20

=20

or=20

=20

2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process?

=20

If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D328372416-21102005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D328372416-21102005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D328372416-21102005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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AM<BR><B>To:</B> ietf-ediint@imc.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Moving AS3=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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implementer or just=20
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  position on this. We need to get some indication of the groups&#8217;s =
consensus on=20
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Speaking as your Area Director, and referencing this message:

http://www.imc.org/ietf-ediint/mail-archive/msg01777.html

I am glad to finally see some discussion on this mailing list.  However, you
all need to be aware that simple statements of "I support moving this
forward" aren't sufficient to develop standards in the IETF.  You need to
actually do the design work on this working group mailing list, too!

I was encouraged to see the message from Guillaume Colombier describing a
potential technical issue.  Whether or not this document moves forward
depends on how you all deal with comments like that one.  If you discuss it
here and decide on a solution here I may consider a working group request
for publication as a proposed standard.  If nothing happens here I can tell
you right now that I will not support a request to publish AS3 as a Proposed
Standard.  The best I will be able to do is to consider publication as an
Informational RFC documenting the work of some organization that took place
outside the IETF.

Remember, IETF standards MUST be developed in the IETF.

-Scott-




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Here are the additional changes I am recommending to the AS3 draft to =
support your request for better

clarity to the spec. =20

=20

Lets start our discussions here.  Please respond to the list.=20

=20

Thanks

=20

Terry Harding

Cyclone Commerce Inc.

=20

7.2  Message Disposition Notifications (MDN)=20

=20

   The AS3-MDNs are returned on a separate FTP TCP/IP=20

   connection and are a response to an AS3 message.=20

  =20

   The following diagram illustrates the delivery of an=20

   AS3-MDN delivery:

      =20

          AS3-MDN

         [S] ----( connect )----> [R]   [FTP Server]

         [S] ----( send )-------> [R]   [AS3-Message]

         [S] ----( disconnect )-> [R]   [FTP Server]

=20

         [S] <---( connect )----- [R]   [FTP Server]

         [S] <---( send )-------- [R]   [AS3-MDN]]

         [S] <---( disconnect )-- [R]   [FTP Server]

=20

    Note:  Refer to Section 7.4.4 for additional

           programming notes.

=20

=20

7.4.4  Additional AS3-MDN Programming Notes

=20

    9.  An AS3 implementation MUST present to its trading partners

        an ftp compliant server interface where inbound documents

        and mdns are received.

=20

   10.  An AS3 implementation MUST be able to retrieve inbound

        messages from it's currently configured ftp server interface. =20

=20

   Note: Programming Notes 9 and 10 do not imply any specific method

         for supplying the ftp server interface. But, does allow for=20

         several different types of implementations.  Some vendors may

         choose to imbed an ftp compliant server interface within their  =


         product and others may choose to utilize off-the-shelf ftp =
servers

         to supply the required ftp server interface. Some may choose to =


         utilize hosting services provide by their trading partner or by =
a=20

         third party hosting service. Whichever method is utilized, an

         AS3 implementation MUST support rules 9 and 10.

=20

    11.  AS3 implementations MAY imbed an ftp server interface within =
their

         product.=20

=20

    12.  AS3 implementations MUST be configurable to allow the use of=20

         an external ftp hosting service.=20

=20

    Note: An external ftp hosting service may be hosted by a third-party =


          Or possibly hosted by your trading partner.

=20

    13.  An AS3 implementation MUST be able to send business documents =20

         and mdns to a trading partner's currently configured ftp server =


         interface.=20

=20

    14.  An AS3 implementation may imbed ftp client code into their =
product

         or use an third-party ftp client.

=20

    15.  Example Configurations

  =20

         1. Peer to Peer

            TPA is using a local ftp server and TPB is using an imbedded =
ftp

=20

            server.=20

=20

         [A Client] ----( connect )----> [B Server]

         [A Client] ----( send )-------> [B Server] [AS3-Message]

         [A Client] ----( disconnect )-> [B Server]

=20

         [A Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client]

         [A Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]

         [A Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Server]

         [A Client] <---( GET )--------- [A Server]            =20

=20

         2. Third Party Hosting

            Both parties are using the same third-party hosted ftp =
server.

=20

         [A Client] ----( connect )----> [Hosted Server]

         [A Client] ----( send )-------> [Hosted Server] [AS3-Message]

         [A Client] ----( disconnect )-> [Hosted Server]

         [Hosted Server]( GET )--------> [B Client]

=20

         [Hosted Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client]

         [Hosted Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]

         [Hosted Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Client]

         [A Client]      <---( GET )--------- [Hosted Server]            =
=20

=20

         3. Trading Partner Hosting

            TPA is using the imbedded ftp server hosted by TPB.

=20

         [A Client] ----( connect )----> [B Server]

         [A Client] ----( send )-------> [B Server] [AS3-Message]

         [A Client] ----( disconnect )-> [B Server]

=20

         [B Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client]

         [B Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]

         [B Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Client]

         [A Client] <---( GET )--------- [B Server] =20

=20

=20

________________________________

From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Colombier Guillaume
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:54 AM
To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
Cc: Dale Moberg; Debra Petta
Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward.

=20

Hi,

=20

Following the AS3 certification this year,  and especially our last =
conference call, I've been in touch with Terry
Harding to discuss scenarios that were part of the certification process =
but that, according to me, were not

detailed engough in the draft  (hosting,  not hosting the FTP server =
etc...).

I know that this is not directly linked to AS3 messages format but more =
to the binding with FTP, however I think

that this should be addressed in the standard which must be exhaustive =
enough for somebody implementing

AS3 to sucessfully go through the certification. This is my point and I =
would be very pleased to discuss this

with the group.

I know that Terry had worked on it but I don't know if he had time to =
publish a new draft (I haven't received any new

document through the e-list).

=20

 By the way, I agree with Debra, we've all put a lot of development and =
testing effort into our product for the AS3

support and I'd like to see it moved forward in the standard process.=20

=20

________________________________

	-----Message d'origine-----
	De : owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]De la part de Debra Petta
	Envoy=E9 : vendredi 21 octobre 2005 18:27
	=C0 : ietf-ediint@imc.org
	Cc : Dale Moberg
	Objet : RE: Moving AS3 forward.

	I'd like to see it moved forward in the standards process.

	=20

	We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3 =
products

	and it would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3.

	=20

	-----Original Message-----
	From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Dale Moberg
	Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 AM
	To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
	Subject: Moving AS3 forward.

		Hi

		=20

		It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the =
list that either=20

		=20

		1. has concerns about it moving forward=20

		=20

		or=20

		=20

		2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process?

		=20

		If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a =
message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get =
some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record.

		=20

		We can then lobby Rik D.

		=20

		Thanks


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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Cyclone Commerce =
Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>7.2=A0 Message Disposition
Notifications (MDN) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0 The AS3-MDNs are =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0 AS3-MDN =
delivery:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
AS3-MDN<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[S] ----( connect )----&gt;
[R]=A0=A0 [FTP Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[S] ----( send )-------&gt;
[R]=A0=A0 [AS3-Message]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[S] ----( disconnect )-&gt;
[R]=A0=A0 [FTP Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[S] &lt;---( connect )-----
[R]=A0=A0 [FTP Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[S] &lt;---( send )--------
[R]=A0=A0 [AS3-MDN]]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[S] &lt;---( disconnect )--
[R]=A0=A0 [FTP Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0 Note:=A0 Refer to =
Section 7.4.4
for additional<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
 programming notes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>7.4.4=A0 Additional AS3-MDN
Programming Notes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0 9.=A0 An AS3 =
implementation MUST
present to its trading partners<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 an =
ftp compliant server
interface where inbound documents<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 and =
mdns are received.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0 10.=A0 An AS3 =
implementation MUST
be able to retrieve inbound<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
messages from it's currently
configured ftp server interface.=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0 Note: Programming =
Notes 9 and 10
do not imply any specific method<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
for supplying the ftp
server interface. But, does allow for <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
several different types of
implementations.=A0 Some vendors may<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
choose to imbed an ftp
compliant server interface within their=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
product and others may
choose to utilize off-the-shelf ftp servers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 to =
supply the required ftp
server interface. Some may choose to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
utilize hosting services
provide by their trading partner or by a <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
third party hosting
service. Whichever method is utilized, an<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
AS3 implementation MUST
support rules 9 and 10.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0 11.=A0 AS3 =
implementations MAY
imbed an ftp server interface within their<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
product. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0 12.=A0 AS3 =
implementations MUST be
configurable to allow the use of <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 an =
external ftp hosting
service. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0 Note: An external =
ftp hosting
service may be hosted by a third-party <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
Or possibly hosted by your
trading partner.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0 13.=A0 An AS3 =
implementation MUST
be able to send business documents=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
and mdns to a trading
partner's currently configured ftp server <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
interface. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0 14.=A0 An AS3 =
implementation may
imbed ftp client code into their product<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 or =
use an third-party ftp
client.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0 15.=A0 Example =
Configurations<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1. =
Peer to Peer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0 TPA is using a local ftp
server and TPB is using an imbedded ftp<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0 server. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( connect
)----&gt; [B Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( send
)-------&gt; [B Server] [AS3-Message]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( disconnect
)-&gt; [B Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Server] &lt;---( connect
)----- [B Client]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Server] &lt;---( send
)-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Server] &lt;---(
disconnect )-- [B Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] &lt;---( GET
)--------- [A Server]=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2. =
Third Party Hosting<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0 Both parties are using
the same third-party hosted ftp server.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( connect
)----&gt; [Hosted Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( send
)-------&gt; [Hosted Server] [AS3-Message]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( disconnect
)-&gt; [Hosted Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[Hosted Server]( GET
)--------&gt; [B Client]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[Hosted Server] &lt;---(
connect )----- [B Client]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[Hosted Server] &lt;---(
send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
[Hosted Server] &lt;---(
disconnect )-- [B Client]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client]=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 &lt;---(
GET )--------- [Hosted Server]=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 3. =
Trading Partner Hosting<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0 TPA is using the
imbedded ftp server hosted by TPB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( connect
)----&gt; [B Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( send
)-------&gt; [B Server] [AS3-Message]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] ----( disconnect
)-&gt; [B Server]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [B =
Server] &lt;---( connect
)----- [B Client]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [B =
Server] &lt;---( send
)-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [B =
Server] &lt;---(
disconnect )-- [B Client]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A =
Client] &lt;---( GET
)--------- [B Server]=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font =
size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Colombier =
Guillaume<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 21, =
2005
9:54 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
ietf-ediint@imc.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Dale
 Moberg</st1:PersonName>; Debra Petta<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Moving AS3 =
forward.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Following the AS3 certification =
this
year,&nbsp; and especially our last conference call, I've been in touch =
with
Terry<br>
Harding to discuss&nbsp;scenarios that were part of the certification =
process
but&nbsp;that, according to me, were not</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>detailed engough in the draft
&nbsp;(hosting,&nbsp; not hosting the FTP server =
etc...).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I know&nbsp;that this is not =
directly
linked to AS3 messages format but more to the binding with =
FTP,&nbsp;however
I&nbsp;think</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>that this should be addressed in =
the
standard which must&nbsp;be exhaustive enough&nbsp;for somebody =
implementing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>AS3&nbsp;to&nbsp;sucessfully go =
through
the certification. This is my point and I would be very pleased to =
discuss this</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>with the =
group.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I know that Terry had&nbsp;worked =
on it
but I don't know if he had time to publish a new draft (I haven't =
received any
new</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>document through the =
e-list).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;By the way,&nbsp;I agree
with&nbsp;Debra, we've all put a lot of&nbsp;development and testing =
effort
into our product for the AS3</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>support and&nbsp;I'd like to see it =
moved
forward in the standard process.&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>=
________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

</div>

<blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Message =
d'origine-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>De&nbsp;:</span></b>
owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>De la part de</span></b> Debra Petta<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</span></b> vendredi =
21 octobre
2005 18:27<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>=C0&nbsp;:</span></b> =
ietf-ediint@imc.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc&nbsp;:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Dale
 Moberg</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Objet&nbsp;:</span></b> RE: Moving =
AS3
forward.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I'd like to see it moved forward in =
the
standards process.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>We've all put a lot of development =
and
testing efforts into our AS3 products</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>and it would be nice to see some =
market
acceptance for AS3.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Dale =
Moberg</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 21, =
2005
11:13 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
ietf-ediint@imc.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Moving AS3 =
forward.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is =
there
anyone on the list that either <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>1. has concerns about it moving forward =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>or <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>2. would like to see it be moved forward in the =
standards
process?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If you are an implementer or just an interested =
party,
please post a message to the list concerning your position on this. We =
need to
get some indication of the groups&#8217;s consensus on this in the =
record.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We can then lobby Rik D.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</blockquote>

</blockquote>

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Since the AS3 document has been discussed extensively off this list, I
will be submitting each individual section of the document for review
and comments. 

Please forward any suggestions of changes to the list.


*****************************
Abstract

  This Applicability Statement (AS) describes how to exchange structured
  business data securely using the File Transfer Protocol (FTP) for XML,
  Binary, Electronic Data Interchange (EDI - ANSI X12 or UN/EDIFACT), or
  other data used for business-to-business data interchange for which
  MIME packaging can be accomplished using standard MIME content-types.
  Authentication and data confidentiality are obtained by using
  Cryptographic Message Syntax (S/MIME) security body parts.
  Authenticated acknowledgements employ multipart/signed replies to the
  original message.

******************************

Thanks

Terry Harding
Cyclone Commerce Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org
[mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Scott Hollenbeck
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:13 AM
To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward.


Speaking as your Area Director, and referencing this message:

http://www.imc.org/ietf-ediint/mail-archive/msg01777.html

I am glad to finally see some discussion on this mailing list.  However,
you
all need to be aware that simple statements of "I support moving this
forward" aren't sufficient to develop standards in the IETF.  You need
to
actually do the design work on this working group mailing list, too!

I was encouraged to see the message from Guillaume Colombier describing
a
potential technical issue.  Whether or not this document moves forward
depends on how you all deal with comments like that one.  If you discuss
it
here and decide on a solution here I may consider a working group
request
for publication as a proposed standard.  If nothing happens here I can
tell
you right now that I will not support a request to publish AS3 as a
Proposed
Standard.  The best I will be able to do is to consider publication as
an
Informational RFC documenting the work of some organization that took
place
outside the IETF.

Remember, IETF standards MUST be developed in the IETF.

-Scott-





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1.   Introduction
  
  Previous work on Internet EDI focused on specifying MIME content types
  for EDI data [2] and extending this work to support secure EC/EDI 
  transport over SMTP [5].  This document expands on RFC 1767 to specify
  a comprehensive set of data security features, specifically data 
  privacy, data integrity, authenticity, non-repudiation of origin and 
  non-repudiation of receipt over FTP.  This document also recognizes 
  contemporary RFCs and is attempting to "re-invent" as little as 
  possible. While this document focuses on EDI data, any other data type
  describable in a MIME format are also supported.  
 
  Internet MIME based EDI can be accomplished by using and complying 
  with the following RFC's and Internet drafts:

         -RFC 959  File Transfer Protocol 
         -RFC 2228 FTP Security Extensions
         -RFC 1767 EDI Content Type
         -RFC 3023 XML Media Types
         -RFC 1847 Security Multiparts for MIME
         -RFC 1892 Multipart/Report
         -RFC 2045 to 2049 MIME RFC's
         -RFC 2298 Message Disposition Notification
         -RFC 2630, 2632, 2633: S/MIME v3 Specifications
         -RFC 3274 Compressed Data Content for Cryptographic Message
                   Syntax
         -draft-ietf-ediint-compression-02.txt
  
  Our intent here is to define clearly and precisely how these are used 
  together, and what is required by user agents to be compliant with
  this document.

  The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL   NOT",
  "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and  "OPTIONAL" in this 
  document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.
*****************************************************

Terry Harding
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2.0  Overview

2.1  Overall Operations
    
   A FTP upload operation is used to send appropriately-packaged EDI, 
   XML, or other business data. The receiving application will poll
   the FTP server for inbound messages, unpackage and handle the message
   data and generate a reply for the originator that contains a 
   message disposition acknowledgement within a multipart/report that is
   signed or unsigned. This request/reply transactional interchange 
   provides secure, reliable, and authenticated transport for EDI or   
   other business data using FTP. The security protocols and structures 

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   used also support auditable records of these transmissions.

2.2  Purpose of a security guideline for MIME EDI
    
   The purpose of these specifications is to ensure interoperability
   between B2B Electronic Commerce user agents, invoking some or all of 
   the commonly expected security features. This document is also NOT
   limited to strict EDI use, but applies to any electronic commerce 
   application where business data needs to be exchanged over the 
   Internet in a secure manner.

2.3   Definitions

2.3.1.  Terms

  EDI                  Electronic Data Interchange

  EC                   Business to Business Electronic Commerce

  B2B                  Business to Business

  Receipt              The functional message that is sent from a 
                       receiver to a sender to acknowledge receipt of 
                       an EDI/EC interchange. 

  Signed Receipt       A receipt containing a digital signature.

  Message Disposition  The Internet messaging format used to convey a 
  Notification (MDN)   receipt. This term is used interchangeably with 
                       receipt. A MDN is a receipt.

  Non-repudiation of   NRR is a "legal event" that occurs when the 
  receipt (NRR)        original sender of an EDI/EC interchange has 
                       verified the signed receipt coming back from the 
                       receiver. NRR IS NOT a functional or a technical 
                       message.

  S/MIME               A format and protocol for adding Cryptographic 
                       signature and/or encryption services to Internet 
                       MIME messages.

                       NOTE: While the S/MIME specification describes
                             more than one format for a signed message,
                             all signed messages or receipts used with
                             AS3 MUST utilize the multipart/signed
                             format.

  SHA-1                A secure, one-way hash algorithm used in 
                       conjunction with digital signature. SHA-1 is the
                       recommend algorithm for AS3.

  MD5                  A secure, one-way hash algorithm used in 
                       conjunction with digital signature. This 
                       algorithm is acceptable but not recommended 
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  MIC                  The message integrity check (MIC) is a 
                       representation of the message digest, which
                       results from the application of the selected hash
                       algorithm to the content to be signed.  Of 
                       particular interest is the the digital signature,
                       which includes an encrypted copy of the digest.
                       Additionally, an MDN containing a 
                       Received-Content-MIC" header will also contain 
                       (as that header's value) a base-64 encoded
                       representation of the digest.

  User Agent (UA)      The application that handles and processes the 
                       AS3 request.

  STL                  Secure Transmission Loop, described in the next
                       section

2.3.2  The Secure Transmission Loop
   
   This document's focus is on the formats and protocols for exchanging 
   EDI/EC content to which security services have been applied using
   the File Transmission Protocol (FTP) as the transport.

   The "Secure Transmission Loop" (STL) comprises the following two
   steps:
  
     a) The originator sends a signed and encrypted document with a 
        request for a signed receipt.

     b) The recipient decrypts the document, verifies the signature,
        and returns a signed receipt to the sender.
          
   In other words, the following events occur during the execution of
the
   STL:

     - The organization sending EDI/EC data signs and encrypts the data 
       using S/MIME. In addition, the message will request a signed
       receipt to be returned to the sender of the message.

     - The receiving organization decrypts the message and verifies the 
       signature, resulting in verified integrity of the data and
       authenticity of the sender.

     - The receiving organization then returns a signed receipt, as 
       requested to the sending organization in the form of a message
       disposition notification. This signed receipt will contain the
       hash of the signature from the received message, indicating to 
       the sender that the received message was verified and/or
       decrypted properly. 
             
   The above describes functionality which, if implemented, will 
   satisfy all security requirements and provide non-repudiation of 
   receipt for the exchange.  While trading partners will usually want
   to utilize the STL, this specification does not require it.

2.3.3  Definition of Receipts 

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   The term used for both the functional activity and the message for 
   acknowledging delivery of an EDI/EC interchange is "receipt" or 
   "signed receipt".  The term receipt is used if the acknowledgment
   is for an interchange resulting in a receipt which is NOT signed.
   The term signed receipt is used if the acknowledgment is for an 
   interchange resulting in a receipt which IS signed. A term often 
   used in combination with receipts is non-repudiation of receipt.  
   NRR refers to a legal event which occurs only when the original 
   sender of an interchange has verified the signed receipt coming back
   from the recipient of the message. Note that NRR is not possible 
   without signatures.

   For additional information on formatting and processing receipts
   in AS3, refer to section 7.

2.4  Operational assumptions and options

2.4.1 EDI/EC process assumptions

   - Encrypted object is an EDI/EC Interchange

     This specification assumes that a typical EDI/EC interchange is the
     lowest level object that will be subject to the application of
     security services. 
     
     Specifically, for EDI ANSI X12, the entire document (including
     the ISA and IEA segments) is the atom to which security is applied.
     For EDIFACT, the corresponding definition includes segments UNA/UNB
     and UNZ. In other words, EDI/EC interchanges including envelope 
     segments remain intact and unreadable during secure transport. 
     
   - EDI envelope headers are encrypted

     Congruent with the above statement, EDI envelope headers are 
     NOT visible in the MIME package. In order to optimize routing 
     from existing commercial EDI networks (called Value Added Networks
     or VANs) to the Internet, work may need to be done in the future to
     define ways to extract some elements of the envelope to make
     them visible; however, that is beyond the scope of this
     specification.

   - X12.58 and UN/EDIFACT security considerations

     The most common EDI standards bodies, ANSI X12 and EDIFACT, have
     defined internal provisions for security.  X12.58 is the security
     mechanism for ANSI X12 and AUTACK provides security for EDIFACT.
     This specification DOES NOT dictate use or non-use of these
security
     standards. They are both fully compatible, though possibly 
     redundant, with this specification.

2.4.2  Process options

2.4.2.1 Security options
   
   - Encrypted or un-encrypted data

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     This specification allows for EDI/EC message exchange where the
     EDI/EC data can be either un-protected or protected by means of 
     encryption.

   - Signed or unsigned data

     This specification allows for EDI/EC message exchange with or 
     without digital signature of the original EDI transmission.

   - Use of receipt or not

     This specification allows for EDI/EC message transmission with or 
     without a request for receipt notification.  If a signed receipt
     notification is requested  however, a MIC value is REQUIRED as
     part of the returned receipt, unless an error condition occurs
which
     results in the inability to compute a valid digest.  (Such a case
     would result, for instance, if an encrypted message could not be
     decrypted.) Under such circumstances, an unsigned receipt (MDN) 
     SHOULD be returned with the correct "disposition modifier" error
     value.

   - Security Formatting 

     This specification relies on the guidelines set forth in 
     RFCs 2630 [9] and 2633 [10].  The first of these RFCs describes the
     Cryptograpic Message Syntax (CMS) and the second contains the
S/MIME 
     Version 3 Message Specification describing a MIME container for 
     CMS objects.  Whenever the term S/MIME is used in this document,
     it refers to Version 3 as described therein.

   - Hash function, message digest choices

     When a signature is used, it is RECOMMENDED that the SHA-1 hash
     algorithm be used for all outgoing messages; however, both MD5
     and SHA-1 MUST be supported for incoming messages.

   - Permutation Summary

     In summary, the following twelve security permutations are possible
     in any given trading relationship:

     1.  Sender sends un-encrypted data, does NOT request a receipt.

     2.  Sender sends un-encrypted data, requests an unsigned receipt.
         The receiver sends back the unsigned receipt.

     3.  Sender sends un-encrypted data, requests a signed receipt. The
         receiver sends back the signed receipt.

     4.  Sender sends encrypted data, does NOT request a receipt. 

     5.  Sender sends encrypted data, requests an unsigned receipt. The
         receiver sends back the unsigned receipt. 

     6.  Sender sends encrypted data, requests a signed receipt. The 

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         receiver sends back the signed receipt.

     7.  Sender sends signed data, does NOT request a receipt.

     8.  Sender sends signed data, requests an unsigned receipt.
Receiver
         sends back the unsigned receipt.

     9.  Sender sends signed data, requests a signed receipt. Receiver
         sends back the signed receipt.

     10. Sender sends encrypted and signed data, does NOT request a
         receipt.

     11. Sender sends encrypted and signed data, requests an unsigned
         receipt. Receiver sends back the unsigned receipt.

     12. Sender sends encrypted and signed data, requests a signed
         receipt. Receiver sends back the signed receipt.  This case
         represents the Secure Transmission Loop described above.

2.4.2.2 Compression options

    The AS3 specification supports compression of transmitted data
directly
    through the application of RFC 3274.  Implementation details may be 
    found in that RFC and in Harding's draft, "Compressed Data for
EDIINT",
    currently on a parallel standards track.

Terry Harding
Cyclone Commerce Inc.





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3.   Referenced RFC's and their contribution

3.1  RFC 959: File Transfer Protocol [3]
   
   RFC 959 specifies how data is transferred using the File Transfer 
   Protocol (FTP)

3.2  RFC 2228: FTP Security Extensions [4]

   This RFC describes a framework for providing security services to
   FTP.
 
3.3  RFC 1847: MIME Security Multiparts [7]

   This document defines security multiparts for MIME:   
   multipart/encrypted and multipart/signed.

3.4  RFC 1892: Multipart/report [12]

   RFC 1892 defines the use of the multipart/report content type, upon
   which RFC 2298 builds to define the Message Disposition Notification.

3.5  RFC 1767: EDI Content [2]

   This RFC defines the use of content type "application" for ANSI X12 
   (application/EDI-X12), EDIFACT (application/EDIFACT) and mutually 
   defined EDI (application/EDI-Consent).

3.6  RFC 2045, 2046, and 2049: MIME [1]

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   These are the basic MIME standards, upon which all MIME related 
   RFCs build, including this one. Key contributions include definition
   of "content type", "sub-type" and "multipart", as well as encoding
   guidelines, which establishes 7-bit US-ASCII as the canonical 
   character set to be used in Internet messaging.


3.7  RFC 2298: Message Disposition Notification [6]

   This Internet RFC defines how a Message Disposition Notification
(MDN)
   is requested, as well as the format and syntax of the MDN. The MDN is
   the vehicle used by this specification to provide both signed and 
   unsigned receipts.

3.8  RFC 2630:CMS[9] and 2633 S/MIME Version 3 Message
Specifications[10].

   This specification describes how MIME shall carry Cryptographic
Message
   Syntax (CMS) Objects.

3.9 RFC 2632: S/MIME Version 3 Certificate Handling [11]

   RFC 2632 describes certificate handling in the context of CMS and
S/MIME.

3.10  RFC 3274: Compressed Data Content Type for Cryptographic Message 
      Syntax (CMS) [17]

   This specification provides a mechanism to wrap compressed data
within a
   CMS object.

3.11  RFC 3023:  XML Media Types [16]
   
   This RFC defines the use of content type "application" for XML.  Note
   that while conforming implementations SHOULD support the expanded
syntax
   that RFC 3023 introduces for the "+xml" suffix, no support for
external
   parsed entity types is anticipated (as it adds significant complexity
to
   signature processing).
*****************************************************

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4.  Structure of an AS3 message

4.1 Introduction 

   The basic structure of AS3 messages comprises MIME encapsulated data
   with both customary MIME headers and a few additional AS3-specific
outer
   headers. The structures below are described hierarchically in terms
of
   which RFCs have been applied to form the specific structure.  The
reader
   is referred directly to the referenced RFCs for implementation
details.
   Any additional restrictions imposed by this AS are specifically
discussed
   in the sections which follow.

4.2   Structure of an Internet EDI MIME message

   No encryption, no signature 
   
     -RFC822/2045
       -RFC1767/RFC2376 (application/EDIxxxx or /xml)

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   No encryption, signature
   
     -RFC822/2045
       -RFC1847 (multipart/signed)
         -RFC1767/RFC2376 (application/EDIxxxx or /xml)
         -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-signature)

   Encryption, no signature

     -RFC822/2045
       -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-mime)
         -RFC1767/RFC2376  (application/EDIxxxx or /xml)(encrypted)

   Encryption, signature

     -RFC822/2045
       -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-mime)
         -RFC1847 (multipart/signed)(encrypted)
           -RFC1767/RFC2376  (application/EDIxxxx or /xml)(encrypted)
           -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-signature)(encrypted)

   MDN, no signature

     -RFC822/2045
       -RFC2298 (message/disposition-notification)

   MDN, signature

     -RFC822/2045
       -RFC1847 (multipart/signed)
         -RFC2298 (message/disposition-notification)
         -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-signature)

   While all MIME content types SHOULD be supported. 
   The following MIME content types MUST be supported:

     Content-type: multipart/signed
     Content-Type: multipart/report
     Content-type: message/disposition-notification
     Content-Type: application/PKCS7-signature
     Content-Type: application/PKCS7-mime
     Content-Type: application/EDI-X12
     Content-Type: application/EDIFACT
     Content-Type: application/edi-consent
     Content-Type: application/XML
*****************************************************

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Open for discussion

5. AS3-specific Headers

5.1 AS3-From and AS3-To headers

   The AS3-From and AS3-To headers have been provided to assist the
sender
   and the recipient of an EC document to identify each other:

       AS3-From: < AS3-name >
       AS3-To:   < AS3-name >

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   These headers contain textual values, described by the ABNF below,
   identifying the sender/receiver of a data exchange. A value may 
   be company specific (e.g., a DUNS number), or it may be simply some
   string mutually acceptable to both trading partners used to identify
   each to the other.

       AS3-text = "!" /           ; printable ASCII characters
                  %d35-91 /       ; except double-quote (%d34)
                  %d93-126        ; or backslash (%d92)
                
       AS3-qtext = AS3-text / SP  ; allow space only in quoted text

       AS3-quoted-pair = "\" DQUOTE /  ; \" or
                         "\" "\"       ; \\
                                           
       AS3-quoted-name = DQUOTE 1*128( AS3-qtext / 
                         AS3-quoted-pair) DQUOTE

       AS3-atomic-name = 1*128AS3-text

       AS3-name = AS3-atomic-name / AS3-quoted-name

   The AS3-From header value and the AS3-To header value MUST each be an

   AS3-name comprising 1 to 128 printable ASCII characters.  The header
   MUST NOT be folded, and the value for each of these headers 
   is case-sensitive.

   The AS3-quoted-name SHOULD be used only if the AS3-name does not 
   conform to AS3-atomic-name. 

   The AS3-To and AS3-From header fields MUST be present in all AS3 
   messages and AS3 MDN's.

   Implementations which map entities such as EDI identifiers/qualifiers
   to AS3 identifiers may choose to constrain the set of AS3-To/AS3-From

   text values to a subset of the full set defined above but may not
   extend that set.  
       
   If either the AS3-From or the AS3-To or the association of the two
header
   values is determined to be invalid or unknown to the receiving
system, 
   the receiving system MAY respond with an unsigned MDN containing an 
   explanation of the error if the sending system requested an MDN, but

   it is not required to return an MDN under those circumstances.

5.2 AS3-Version header

    The AS3-Version header is a header which is required only if the
value
    of the header is not "1.0".  Its purpose is to allow systems to 
    determine which version of this specification, should the
specification
    evolve over time, the sender of a document has used to package the 
    document. A user agent MUST NOT reject a message if the version
header 
    is missing.

    AS3-Version: 1*DIGIT . 1*DIGIT
    

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    A version header value of "1.1" indicates an implementation can
support 
    EDIINT data compression [18]. A user agent MUST NOT send compressed 
    messages to trading partners who do not use a version header of
"1.1"
    or greater. 
*****************************************************

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Cyclone Commerce Inc.





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Open for discussion

6.  FTP Considerations

6.1 FTP Security Requirements

    FTP has long been viewed as an insecure protocol primarily because
of 
    its use of cleartext authentication [FTP].  This is addressed by RFC

    2228, and the use of one of the security mechanisms described
therein 
    is strongly encouraged.  Specifically, conforming implementations of

    AS3 SHALL employ FTP client/servers that support the AUTH command 
    described within [SFTP]. While any authentication mechanism based
upon
    [SFTP] MAY be utilized, AUTH TLS (as described in [MURRAY]) MUST be 
    supported.

6.2 Large file transfers

   Large files are handled correctly by the TCP layer.  However, there
is 
   the mechanism for compressing data referenced in section 2.4.2.2 
   above which efficiently reduces transmission requirements for many
data 
   types (including both XML and traditional EDI data.)  Additionally,
some 
   FTP implementations support compression as well.

6.3 MIME Considerations for FTP

6.3.1 Required/Optional Headers

    An AS3 message MUST contain the following outer headers:

         AS3-To
         AS3-From
         Date
         Message-ID
         Content-Type
    
    An AS3 message OPTIONALLY MAY contain the following outer headers:

         Subject
         AS3-Version (assumed to be 1.0 if not present)
         Content-Length

    An AS3 message requesting a receipt MUST contain a 
    Disposition-Notification-To header and MAY contain a 
    Disposition-Notification-Options header(if the receipt is to be
signed)

    Additional headers MAY be present but are ignored.

6.3.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding Not Used

   FTP defines several data structures and character encodings via the 
   STRU[cture] and TYPE commands.  AS3 requires the file-structure
(default)
   and the image type.  The Content-Transfer-Encoding header SHOULD NOT
be
   used; if the header is present, it MUST have a value of binary or
8-bit, 

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   and the absence of this header MUST NOT result in transaction
failure.
   Content transfer encoding of MIME parts within the AS3 message are 
   similarly constrained.

6.3.3 Epilogue Must Be Empty

    A MIME message containing an epilogue [MIME] SHALL NOT be used.

6.3.4 Message-Id and Original-Message-Id

   Message-Id and Original-Message-Id are formatted as defined in 
   section 3.6.4 of RFC2822 [15]: "<" id-left "@" id-right ">". 
   Message-Id length is a maximum of 998 characters. Message-Id 
   SHOULD be globally unique, id-right should be something unique
   to the sending host environment (e.g. a host name).  When sending
   a message, always include the angle brackets.  Angle brackets are
   not part of the Message-Id value.  

   NOTE:  When creating the Original-Message-Id header in an MDN,
          always use the exact syntax contained in the original
          message: do not strip or add "angle brackets".
*****************************************************

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Hi there, 

Isn't draft-murray-auth-ftp-ssl-16.txt missing from this list?

It appears to be mandated in section 6.1 (I'm assuming that the reference 
to [MURRAY] is just this).

Paul.

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__________________



Open for discussion


1.   Introduction

Previous work on Internet EDI focused on specifying MIME content types
for EDI data [2] and extending this work to support secure EC/EDI
transport over SMTP [5].  This document expands on RFC 1767 to specify
a comprehensive set of data security features, specifically data
privacy, data integrity, authenticity, non-repudiation of origin and
non-repudiation of receipt over FTP.  This document also recognizes
contemporary RFCs and is attempting to "re-invent" as little as
possible. While this document focuses on EDI data, any other data type
describable in a MIME format are also supported.

Internet MIME based EDI can be accomplished by using and complying
with the following RFC's and Internet drafts:

-RFC 959  File Transfer Protocol
-RFC 2228 FTP Security Extensions
-RFC 1767 EDI Content Type
-RFC 3023 XML Media Types
-RFC 1847 Security Multiparts for MIME
-RFC 1892 Multipart/Report
-RFC 2045 to 2049 MIME RFC's
-RFC 2298 Message Disposition Notification
-RFC 2630, 2632, 2633: S/MIME v3 Specifications
-RFC 3274 Compressed Data Content for Cryptographic Message
Syntax
-draft-ietf-ediint-compression-02.txt

Our intent here is to define clearly and precisely how these are used
together, and what is required by user agents to be compliant with
this document.

The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL   NOT",
"SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and  "OPTIONAL" in this
document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.
*****************************************************

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Open for discussion

7. Structure and Processing of an MDN Message

7.1 Introduction

   In order to support non-repudiation of receipt, a signed receipt, 
   based on digitally signing a message disposition notification, is to 
   be implemented by a receiving trading partner's UA. The message 
   disposition notification specified by RFC 2298 is digitally signed by

   a receiving trading partner as part of a multipart/signed MIME 
   message.
       
   The following support for signed receipts is REQUIRED:
   
   1) The ability to create a multipart/report; 
      where the report-type = disposition-notification.
   
   2) The ability to calculate a message integrity check (MIC) on the 
      received message. The calculated MIC value will be returned to the

      sender of the message inside the signed receipt.
   
   3) The ability to create a multipart/signed content with the message 
      disposition notification as the first body part, and the signature

      as the second body part.
   
   4) The ability to return the signed receipt to the sending trading 
      partner.
   
   The signed receipt is used to notify a sending trading partner that
   requested the signed receipt that:

   1) The receiving trading partner acknowledges receipt of the sent EC 
      Interchange.

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      has authenticated the sender of the EC Interchange.

   3) If the sent message was signed, then the receiving trading partner

      has verified the integrity of the sent EC Interchange.
       
   Regardless of whether the EDI/EC Interchange was sent in S/MIME
format 
   or not, the receiving trading partner's UA MUST provide the following

   basic processing:

   1) If the sent EDI/EC Interchange is encrypted, then the encrypted 
      symmetric key and initialization vector (if applicable) is
      decrypted using the receiver's private key.

   2) The decrypted symmetric encryption key is then used to decrypt the

      EDI/EC Interchange.

   3) The receiving trading partner authenticates signatures in a
message
      using the sender's public key. 

      The authentication algorithm performs the following:

      a) The message integrity check (MIC or Message Digest), is
decrypted
         using the sender's public key.

      b) A MIC on the signed contents (the MIME header and encoded EDI 
         object, as per RFC 1767) in the message received is calculated
         using the same one-way hash function that the sending trading 
         partner used.

      c) The MIC extracted from the message that was sent, and the MIC 
         calculated using the same one-way hash function that the
sending
         trading partner used is compared for equality.

   4) The receiving trading partner formats the MDN and sets the 
      calculated MIC into the "Received-content-MIC" extension field.

   5) The receiving trading partner creates a multipart/signed MIME 
      message according to RFC 1847.

   6) The MDN is the first part of the multipart/signed message, and the
      digital signature is created over this MDN, including its MIME
      headers.

   7) The second part of the multipart/signed message contains the 
      digital signature. The "protocol" option specified in the second 
      part of the multipart/signed is as follows: S/MIME: 
      protocol = "application/pkcs7-signature"

   8) The signature information is formatted according to S/MIME 
      specifications. The EC Interchange and the RFC 1767 MIME EDI 
      content header can actually be part of a multi-part MIME 
      content-type.  When the EDI Interchange is part of a multi-part 
      MIME content-type, the MIC MUST be calculated across the entire 
      multi-part content, including the MIME headers.
       
   The signed MDN, when received by the sender of the EDI Interchange
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   be used by the sender:

   1) As an acknowledgment that the EDI Interchange sent, was delivered 
      and acknowledged by the receiving trading partner. The receiver 
      does this by returning the original-message-id of the sent message

      in the MDN portion of the signed receipt.
   
   2) As an acknowledgment that the integrity of the EDI Interchange was

      verified by the receiving trading partner.  The receiver does this

      by returning the calculated MIC of the received EC Interchange 
      (and 1767 MIME headers) in the "Received-content-MIC" field of the

      signed MDN.

   3) As an acknowledgment that the receiving trading partner has 
      authenticated the sender of the EDI Interchange.
      
   4) As a non-repudiation of receipt when the signed MDN is
successfully 
      verified by the sender with the receiving trading partner's public

      key and the returned MIC value inside the MDN is the same as the 
      digest of the original message.

7.2  Message Disposition Notifications (MDN) 

   The AS3-MDNs are returned on a separate FTP TCP/IP 
   connection and are a response to an AS3 message. 
   
   The following diagram illustrates the delivery of an 
   AS3-MDN delivery:
       
          AS3-MDN
         [S] ----( connect )----> [R]   [FTP Server]
         [S] ----( send )-------> [R]   [AS3-Message]
         [S] ----( disconnect )-> [R]   [FTP Server]

         [S] <---( connect )----- [R]   [FTP Server]
         [S] <---( send )-------- [R]   [AS3-MDN]]
         [S] <---( disconnect )-- [R]   [FTP Server]


7.3 Requesting a signed receipt

   Message Disposition Notifications are requested as per RFC 2298.  A 
   request that the receiving user agent issue a message disposition 
   notification is made by placing the following header into the message
   to be sent:
       
   MDN-request-header = "Disposition-notification-to" ":" ftp-url

   This syntax is a residual of the use of MDN's in a SMTP transfer.
Since
   this specification is adjusting the functionality from SMTP to FTP
and
   retaining as much as possible from the [5] functionality, the 
   ftp-url must be present.  

   The ftp-url field is specified as an RFC 1738 
   <URL:ftp://host.com:port/url-path>, and while it MUST be present, 
   it may be ignored if the ftp-url points to an unknown location. If
the

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   ftp-url points to an unknown location it is RECOMMENDED that the mdn
is 
   returned back to a known ftp-url for the sender of the received
message.

   For requesting MDN based receipts, the originator supplies the
required
   extension headers that precede the message body.

   The header "tags" are as follows:

   A Disposition-notification-to header is added to indicate that a
message 
   disposition notification is requested. This header is specified in
[6].  

   A Message-ID header is added to support message reconciliation, so
that
   an Original-Message-Id value can be returned in the body part of MDN.


   Other headers, especially "Date", SHOULD be supplied; the 
   values of these headers are often mentioned in the human-readable 
   section of a MDN to aid in identifying the original message. 

   Disposition-notification-options identifies characteristics of
message 
   
   Disposition notification in accordance with  [6].

       EXAMPLE:
          Disposition-notification-to:       // Requests the MDN
            ftp://host:port/inbox            // Location to return MDN
          Disposition-notification-options:  // The signing options for
MDN
            signed-receipt-protocol=optional, pkcs7-signature;    
            signed-receipt-micalg=optional, sha1, md5

   Disposition-notification-options syntax:
        
   Disposition-notification-options =
          "Disposition-Notification-Options" ":" 
           disposition-notification-parameters 

   where
   
   disposition-notification-parameters =
               parameter *(";" parameter)

   where

   parameter = attribute "=" importance ", " 1#value"

   where

   importance = "required" | "optional"

   So the Disposition-notification-options string could be:

   signed-receipt-protocol=optional, <protocol symbol>;
   signed-receipt-micalg=optional, <micalg1>, <micalg2>,...;
        
   The currently supported value for <protocol symbol> is
"pkcs7-signature" 
   for the S/MIME detached signature format.
        

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   The currently supported values for MIC algorithm <micalg> values are:
          Algorithm   Value
           Used
        --------   -------
           MD5         md5
           SHA-1       sha1
   
   Receiving agents SHOULD be able to recover gracefully from a <micalg>

   parameter value that they do not recognize.


   The semantics of the "signed-receipt-protocol" parameter is as
follows:

   1) The "signed-receipt-protocol" parameter is used to request a
signed 
      receipt from the recipient trading partner. The 
      "signed-receipt-protocol" parameter also specifies the format in 
      which the signed receipt should be returned to the requester.

      The "signed-receipt-micalg" parameter is a list of MIC algorithms 
      preferred by the requester for use in signing the returned receipt
      and calculating the micalg in the Received-content-MIC header.  
     
      The list of MIC algorithms should be honored by the recipient from

      left to right. Both the "signed-receipt-protocol" and the 
      "signed-receipt-micalg" option parameters are REQUIRED when 
      requesting a signed receipt.

   2) The "importance" attribute of "Optional" is defined in the RFC
2298 
      section 2.2 and has the following meaning:
           
      Parameters with an importance of "Optional" permit a UA that does
not 
      understand the particular options parameter to still generate a
MDN 
      in response to a request for a MDN. A UA that does not understand
the 
      "signed-receipt-protocol" parameter,  or the
"signed-receipt-micalg"
      will obviously not return a signed receipt.

      The importance of "Optional" is used for the signed receipt 
      parameters because it is RECOMMENDED that an MDN be returned to
the 
      requesting trading partner even if the recipient could not sign
it.

      The returned MDN will contain information on the disposition of
the 
      message as well as why the MDN could not be signed. See the 
      Disposition field in section 7.5 for more information.

   Within an EDI trading relationship, if a signed receipt is expected 
   and is not returned, then the validity of the transaction must be 
   determined by the trading partners.  Typically, if a signed receipt
is 
   required by the trading relationship and is not received, the 
   transaction will likely not be considered valid.

7.3.1 Signed Receipt Considerations

   The method used to request a receipt or a signed receipt is defined
in 
   RFC 2298, "An Extensible Message Format for Message Disposition 
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   The "rules" for processing a receipt-request follow:

1) When a receipt is requested, explicitly specifying that the receipt
be 
   signed, then the receipt MUST be returned with a signature unless
   conditions (2) or (3) below are applicable.

2) When a receipt is requested, explicitly specifying that the receipt
be 
   signed, but the recipient cannot support either the requested
protocol 
   format, or requested MIC algorithms, then either a signed or unsigned

   receipt SHOULD be returned.

3) When a receipt is requested, explicitly specifying that the receipt
be
   signed, but the recipient is unable to compute the digest (e.g.,
message
   was encrypted and recipient unable to decrypt), then the recipient
SHOULD
   NOT return "Received-Content-MIC" in the MDN to the requestor.  If
the
   MDN sets the disposition (e.g., "processed/error: decryption-failed")
   appropriately, then the "Received-Content-MIC" may be returned but
the
   value must be discarded.
   
4) When a signature is not explicitly requested, or if the signed
receipt
   request parameter is not recognized by the UA, then no receipt, an 
   unsigned receipt, or a signed receipt MAY  be returned by the 
   recipient.

5) If a message is received without a request for a receipt, then a
receipt
   (signed or unsigned) MAY be returned.

   The "Received-content-MIC" MUST be calculated as follows:

   - For any signed messages, the MIC to be returned is calculated on 
     the RFC1767 MIME header and content. Canonicalization as specified 
     in RFC 1848 MUST be performed before the MIC is calculated, since 
     the sender requesting the signed receipt was also REQUIRED to 
     canonicalize.

   - For encrypted, unsigned messages, the MIC to be returned is 
     calculated on the decrypted RFC 1767 MIME header and content. The 
     content after decryption MUST be canonicalized before the MIC is 
     calculated.

   - For unsigned, unencrypted messages, the MIC MUST be calculated  
     over the message contents prior to Content-Tranfer-Encoding and 
     without the MIME or any other RFC 822 headers, since these are 
     sometimes altered or reordered by MTAs.

7.4  MDN Format and value

     This section defines the format of the AS3 Message Disposition 
     Notification (AS3-MDN).

7.4.1  AS3-MDN General Formats

     The AS3-MDN follows the MDN specification [6] except where noted in

     this section. The modified entity definitions in this document use 
     the vertical-bar character, '|', to denote a logical "OR"
     construction. Refer to RFC 2045 for format of MIME-message-headers.


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     The format of the AS3-MDN is

          AS3-MDN = *(( MIME-message-headers | entity-headers )CRLF)
                CRLF
                AS3-MDN-body

          AS3-MDN-body =
                AS3-signed-MDN-body | AS3-unsigned-MDN-body

7.4.2  AS3-MDN Construction

     The AS3-MDN-body is formatted as a MIME multipart/report with a 
     report-type of "disposition-notification".

     When unsigned, the transfer-layer ( "outermost" ) entity-headers of

     the AS3-MDN contain the content-type header that specifies a 
     content-type of "multipart/report" and parameters indicating the 
     report-type, and the value of the outermost multipart boundary.

     When the AS3-MDN is signed, the transfer-layer ( "outermost" ) 
     entity-headers of the AS3-MDN contain a content-type header that 
     specifies a content-type of "multipart/signed" and parameters 
     indicating the algorithm used to compute the message digest, the 
     signature formatting protocol ( e.g. pkcs7-signature ), and the 
     value of the outermost multipart boundary. The first part of the 
     MIME multipart/signed message is an embedded MIME multipart/report 
     of type "disposition-notification". The second part of the 
     multipart/signed message contains a MIME
application/pkcs7-signature 
     message.

     The first part of the MIME multipart/report is a "human-readable" 
     portion that contains a general description of the message 
     disposition. The second part of the MIME multipart/report is a 
     "machine-readable" portion that is defined as 

     AS3-disposition-notification-content =
               [ reporting-ua-field CRLF ]
               [ mdn-gateway-field CRLF ]
               [ original-recipient-field CRLF ]
               final-recipient-field CRLF
               [ original-message-id-field CRLF ]
               AS3-disposition-field CRLF
               *( failure-field CRLF )
               *( error-field CRLF )
               *( warning-field CRLF )
               *( extension-field CRLF )
               [ AS3-received-content-MIC-field CRLF ]
      
     It is noted that several of the optional fields defined by RFC 2298
     and shown above are not relevant to a point-to-point transport such
     as FTP and would not normally appear in an AS3 MDN.

7.4.3  AS3-MDN Fields

     The rules for constructing the AS3-disposition-notification-content

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     are identical to the rules for constructing the 
     disposition-notification-content as defined in section 7 of RFC 
     2298 [6] except that the RFC 2298 disposition-field has 
     been replaced with the AS3-disposition-field and that the 
     AS3-received-content-MIC field has been added. The differences 
     between the RFC 2298 disposition-field and the 
     AS3-disposition-field are described below. Where 
     there are differences between this document and RFC 2298, those 
     entity names have been changed by prepending "AS3-". Entities below

     that do not differ from RFC 2298 are not necessarily further 
     defined in this document. 

     Refer to RFC 2298 for AS3-MDN entities that are not further defined

     in this document.

     AS3-disposition-field = "Disposition" ":" disposition-mode ";"
                    AS3-disposition-type [ '/' AS3-disposition-modifier
]

     disposition-mode = action-mode "/" sending-mode

     action-mode = "manual-action" | "automatic-action"

     sending-mode = "MDN-sent-manually" | "MDN-sent-automatically"

     AS3-disposition-type = "processed" | "failed"

     AS3-disposition-modifier = ( "error" | "warning" ) | 
                                AS3-disposition-modifier-extension

     AS3-disposition-modifier-extension =
                "error: authentication-failed" |
                "error: decompression-failed" |
                "error: decryption-failed" |
                "error: insufficient-message-security" |
                "error: integrity-check-failed" |
                "error: unexpected-processing-error" |
                "warning: " AS3-MDN-warning-description |
                "failure: " AS3-MDN-failure-description

     AS3-MDN-warning-description = *( TEXT )

     AS3-MDN-failure-description = *( TEXT )

     AS3-received-content-MIC-field =
                 "Received-content-MIC" ":" encoded-message-digest 
                 "," digest-alg-id CRLF

     encoded-message-digest =
                1*( 'A'-Z' | 'a'-'z' | '0'-'9' | '/' | '+' ) 0*3( '=' )
                ( i.e. base64( message-digest ) )

     digest-alg-id = "sha1" | "md5"

     The "Received-content-MIC" extension field is set after the
     integrity of the received message is verified. The MIC is the 
     base64-encoded message-digest computed over the received message 

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     with a hash function.  This field is required for signed receipts 
     but optional for unsigned receipts. For details defining the 
     specific content over which the message-digest is to be computed, 
     see Section 7.3.1 of this document. 

     The algorithm used to calculate the message digest MUST be the 
     same as the "micalg" value used by the sender in the 
     multipart/signed message. When no signature is received the 
     message-digest MUST be calculated using the algorithm specified 
     by the "micalg" value in the Disposition-Notification-Options
header.
     When no signature is received and no micalg parameter is provided,
     then the SHA-1 algorithm MUST be used to calculate the digest.
     This field is set only when the contents of the message are 
     processed successfully. This field is used in conjunction with 
     the recipient's signature on the MDN in order for the sender to 
     verify non-repudiation of receipt.
    
     AS3-MDN field names ( e.g. "Disposition:", "Final-Recipient:") 
     are case-insensitive ( cf. RFC 2298, 3.1.1 ). 

     AS3-MDN action-modes, sending-modes, AS3-disposition-types, and 
     AS3-disposition-modifier values that are defined above, and 
     user-supplied *( TEXT ) values are also case-insensitive. AS3 
     implementations MUST NOT make assumptions regarding the values 
     supplied for AS3-MDN-warning-description, 
     AS3-MDN-failure-description nor for the values of any (optional) 
     error, warning, or failure fields.

7.4.4  Additional AS3-MDN Programming Notes

     1. Unlike SMTP, for FTP transactions, Original-Recipient and 
        Final Recipient SHOULD NOT be different. The value in 
        Original-Message-ID MUST match the original Message-ID 
        header value.  
     
     2. Refer to RFC 1892 and RFC 2298 for the formatting of the 
        content-type entity-headers for the MDN.
     
     3. Use an action-mode of "automatic-action" when the disposition 
        described by the disposition type was a result of an automatic 
        action, rather than an explicit instruction by the user for 
        this message.

     4. Use an action-mode of "manual-action" when the disposition 
        described by the disposition type was a result of an explicit 
        instruction by the user rather than some sort of automatically 
        performed action.

     5. Use a sending-mode of "MDN-sent-automatically" when the MDN is 
        sent because the UA had previously been configured to do so.

     6. Use a sending-mode of "MDN-sent-manually" when the user 
        explicitly gave permission for this particular MDN to be sent.

     7. The sending-mode "MDN-sent-manually" is ONLY meaningful with
        "manual-action", not with "automatic-action".

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     8. The "failed" disposition type MAY NOT be used for the 
        situation in which there is some problem in processing the 
        message other than interpreting the request for an MDN.
        The "processed" or other disposition type with appropriate 
        disposition modifiers is to be used in such situations.

7.5   Disposition Mode, Type, and Modifier

7.5.1  Disposition Mode Overview

     This section will provide a brief overview of how processed, 
     error, failure, and warnings are used.

7.5.2 Successful Processing status indication

     When the request for a receipt or signed receipt, and the received 
     message contents are successfully processed by the receiving EDI 
     UA, a receipt or MDN SHOULD be returned with the  
     "disposition-type" set to 'processed'. When the MDN is sent 
     automatically by the EDI UA, and there is no explicit 
     way for a user to control the sending of the MDN, then the first 
     part of the "disposition-mode" should be set to "automatic-action".


     When the MDN is being sent under user configurable control, then 
     the first part of the "disposition-mode" should be set to 
     "manual-action". Since a request for a signed receipt should always

     be honored, the user MUST not be allowed to configure the UA to not

     send a signed receipt when the sender requests one.

     The second part of the "disposition-mode" is set to 
     "MDN-sent-manually" if the user gave explicit permission for the 
     MDN to be sent. Again, the user MUST not be allowed to explicitly 
     refuse to send a signed receipt when the sender requests one. The 
     second part of the "disposition-mode" is set to 
     "MDN-sent-automatically" whenever the EDI UA sends the MDN 
     automatically, regardless of whether the sending was under a 
     user's, administrator's, or under software control.

     Since EDI content is generally handled automatically by the EDI UA,

     a request for a receipt or signed receipt will generally return the

     following in the "disposition-field": 

     Disposition: automatic-action/MDN-sent-automatically; processed

     Note this specification does not restrict the use of the 
     "disposition-mode" to just automatic actions. Manual actions are 
     valid as long as it is kept in mind that a request for a signed 
     receipt MUST be honored.

7.5.3  Unsuccessful processed Content

     The request for a signed receipt requires the use of two 
     "disposition-notification-options", which specify the protocol 
     format of the returned signed receipt, and the MIC algorithm used 
     to calculate the MIC over the message contents. The 

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     "disposition-field" values that should be used in the case where
     the message content is being rejected or ignored, for instance if 
     the EDI UA determines that a signed receipt cannot be returned 
     because it does not support the requested protocol format, so the 
     EDI UA chooses not to process the message contents itself, should 
     be specified in the MDN "disposition-field" as follows:

     Disposition: "disposition-mode"; failed/Failure: unsupported Format

     The "failed" AS3-disposition-type should be used when a failure 
     occurs that prevents the proper generation of an MDN. 

     For example, this disposition-type would apply if the sender of the

     message requested the application of an unsupported 
     message-integrity-check (MIC) algorithm.

     The "failure:" AS3-disposition-modifier-extension should be used 
     with an implementation-defined description of the failure. 
             
     Further information about the failure may be contained in a 
     failure-field. The syntax of the "failed" "disposition-type" is 
     general, allowing the sending of any textual information along with

     the "failed"  "disposition-type". Implementations WILL support any 
     printable textual characters after the Failure disposition-type.  
 
     For use in Internet EDI, the following "failed" values are 
     pre-defined and MUST be supported:

          "Failure: unsupported format"
          "Failure: unsupported MIC-algorithms"

7.5.4  Unsuccessful Non-Content Processing 

     When errors occur processing the received message other than 
     content, the "disposition-field" should be set to the "processed" 
     "disposition-type" value and the "error" "disposition-modifier"  \ 
     value.
             
     The "error" AS3-disposition-modifier with the "processed" 
     disposition-type should be used to indicate that an error of some 
     sort occurred that prevented successful processing of the message. 

     Further information may be contained in an error-field.

     An "error:" AS3-disposition-modifier-extension should be used to 
     combine the indication of an error with a pre-defined description 
     of a specific, well-known error. Further information about the 
     error may be contained in an error-field. 

     For use in Internet EDI, the following "error"  
     "disposition-modifier" values are defined:
  
     "Error: decryption-failed" - the receiver could not decrypt the 
                                  message contents.

     "Error: authentication-failed" - the receiver could not 

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                                      authenticate the sender.

     "Error: integrity-check-failed" - the receiver could not verify 
                                       content integrity.

     "Error: insufficient-message-security" - the security level of the
                                              message did not match the
                                              agreed level between TPs.

     "Error: decompression-failed" - the receiver could not decompress
                                     the message contents.

     "Error: unexpected-processing-error" - a catch-all for any 
                                            additional processing
                                            errors.

     An example of how the "disposition-field" would look when other 
     than content processing errors are detected is as follows:

     EXAMPLE
          Disposition: "disposition-mode";   
            processed/Error: decryption-failed

7.5.5   Processing Warnings

     Situations arise in EDI where even if a trading partner cannot be 
     authenticated correctly, the trading partners still agree to 
     continue processing the EDI transactions. Transaction
reconciliation 
     is done between the trading partners at a later time. In the
content 
     processing warning situations as described above, the 
     "disposition-field' SHOULD be set to the "processed" 
     "disposition-type" value, and the "warning" "disposition-modifier" 
     value. 

     The "warning" AS3-disposition-modifier should be used with the 
     "processed" disposition-type to indicate that the message was 
     successfully processed but that an exceptional condition occurred. 

     Further information may be contained in a warning-field.
     
     A "warning:" AS3-disposition-modifier-extension should be used to 
     combine the indication of a warning with an implementation-defined 
     description of the warning. Further information about the warning 
     may be contained in an warning-field.

     For use in Internet EDI, the following "warning" 
     "disposition-modifier" values are defined: 

     "Warning: authentication-failed, processing continued"
  
     An example of how the "disposition-field" would look when other
than 
     content processing warnings are detected is as follows:

     EXAMPLE
         Disposition: "disposition-mode"; processed/Warning:
           authentication-failed, processing continued

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Cyclone Commerce Inc.





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Open for discussion

9.  Security Considerations

     This entire document is concerned with secure transport of business

     to business data, and considers both privacy and authentication 
     issues.

     Extracted from S/MIME Version 2 Message Specification:  40-bit  
     encryption is considered weak by most cryptographers. Using weak 
     cryptography offers little actual security over sending plaintext. 

     However, other features of S/MIME, such as the specification of 
     tripleDES or AES and the ability to announce stronger cryptographic

     capabilities to parties with whom you communicate, allow senders to

     create messages that use strong encryption. Using weak cryptography

     is never recommended unless the only alternative is no
cryptography. 
     When feasible, sending and receiving agents should inform senders 
     and recipients the relative cryptographic strength of messages.

     Extracted from S/MIME Version 3 Certificate Handling (ref [11]):  

     When processing certificates, there are many situations where the 
     processing might fail. Because the processing may be done by a user

     agent, a security gateway, or other program, there is no single way

     to handle such failures. Just because the methods to handle the 
     failures have not been listed, however, the reader should not
assume 
     that they are not important.  The opposite is true: if a
certificate

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     is not provably valid and associated with the message, the
processing
     software should take immediate and noticeable steps to inform the
end
     user about it. 

     Some of the many places where signature and certificate checking 
     might fail include:
          
          - no certificate chain leads to a trusted CA
          - no ability to check the CRL for a certificate
          - an invalid CRL was received
          - the CRL being checked is expired
          - the certificate is expired
          - the certificate has been revoked
       
     There are certainly other instances where a certificate may be 
     invalid, and it is the responsibility of the processing software to

     check them all thoroughly, and to decide what to do if the check 
     fails.

     The following certificate types MUST be supported.
            With URL
            Without URL
            Self Certified
            Certification Authority Certified

     The complete certification chain MUST be included in all 
     certificates.  All certificate verifications MUST "chain to root". 
     Additionally, the certificate hash should match the hash recomputed

     by the receiver.
 *****************************************************

Terry Harding
Cyclone Commerce Inc.





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Open for discussion

8.  Public key certificate handling

     In the near term, the exchange of public keys and certification of 
     these keys must be handled as part of the process of establishing a

     trading partnership. The UA and/or EDI application interface must 
     maintain a database of public keys used for encryption or 
     signatures, in addition to the mapping between EDI trading partner 
     ID and FTP URL/URI. The procedures for establishing a trading 
     partnership and configuring the secure EDI messaging system might 
     vary among trading partners and software packages. 

     X.509 certificates are REQUIRED. It is RECOMMENDED that trading 
     partners self-certify each other if an agreed upon certification 
     authority is not used. This applicability statement does NOT
require 
     the use of a certification authority. 

     The use of a certification authority is therefore OPTIONAL. 
     Certificates may be self-signed. It is RECOMMENDED that when
trading 
     partners are using S/MIME, that they also exchange public key 
     certificates using the recommendations specified in the S/MIME 
     Version 3 Message Specification. 

     The message formats and S/MIME conformance requirements for 
     certificate exchange are specified in this document. In the long 
     term, additional Internet-EDI standards may be developed to
simplify 
     the process of establishing a trading partnership, including the 
     third party authentication of trading partners, as well as 
     attributes of the trading relationship.
 *****************************************************

Terry Harding
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Open for discussion

Appendices

A.   Message Examples

NOTE: All examples are provided as an illustration only, and are not   
      considered part of the protocol specification. If an example 
      conflicts with the protocol definitions specified above or with
      that of a referenced RFC, the example is wrong.

A.1  Signed message requesting a signed receipt

      Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:34:50 GMT
      AS3-Version: 1.0
      AS3-From:  cyclone
      AS3-To: "trading partner"

Harding, Scott                                                 [Page 27]


INTERNET DRAFT       FTP Transport Data for EDIINT           April 2005

      Message-Id: <200207310834482A70BF63@host.com>
      Disposition-Notification-To: ftp://host:port/mdnbox
      Disposition-Notification-Options: signed-receipt- 
        protocol=optional,pkcs7-signature; 
        signed-receipt-micalg=optional,sha1
      Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="as3BouNdary1as3";
         protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1
      Content-Length: 3075

      --as3BouNdary1as3
      Content-Type: application/edi-x12
      Content-Disposition: Attachment; filename=rfc1767.dat

      [ISA ...EDI transaction data...IEA...]

      --as3BouNdary1as3
      Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature

        [omitted binary pkcs7 signature data]
      --as3BouNdary1as3--

A.2   MDN for Message A.1 Above
             
      Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:34:50 GMT
      From: "trading partner"
      AS3-To: cyclone 
      AS3-Version: 1.0
      Message-ID: <709700825.1028122454671.JavaMail@ediXchange>
      Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; 
        protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; 
        boundary="----=_Part_57_648441049.1028122454671"
      Content-Length: 1024

      ------=_Part_57_648441049.1028122454671

     & Content-Type: multipart/report; 
     &   Report-Type=disposition-notification; 
     &   boundary="----=_Part_56_1672293592.1028122454656"
     &
     &------=_Part_56_1672293592.1028122454656
     &Content-Type: text/plain
     &Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
     &
     &MDN for -
     & Message ID: <200207310834482A70BF63@host.com>
     &  From: cyclone 
     &  To: "trading partner"
     &  Received on: 2002-07-31 at 09:34:14 (EDT)
     &  Status: processed
     &  Comment: This is not a guarantee that the message has been
     &  completely processed or understood by the receiving translator
     &
     &------=_Part_56_1672293592.1028122454656
     &   Content-Type: message/disposition-notification
     &   Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
     &

Harding, Scott                                                 [Page 28]


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     &   Reporting-UA: AS3 Server
     &   Original-Recipient: rfc822; "trading partner"
     &   Final-Recipient: rfc822; "trading partner"
     &   Original-Message-ID: <200207310834482A70BF63@host.com>
     &   Received-content-MIC: 7v7F++fQaNB1sVLFtMRp+dF+eG4=, sha1
     &   Disposition: automatic-action/MDN-sent-automatically; processed
     &
     &------=_Part_56_1672293592.1028122454656--

      ------=_Part_57_648441049.1028122454671
     Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s
     Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
     Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s

     MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQ
     cp24hMJNbxDKHnlB9jTiQzLwSwo+/90Pc87x+Sc6EpFSUYWGAAAAAAAA
     ------=_Part_57_648441049.1028122454671--
      
Notes:

  1. The lines proceeded with "&" is what the signature is calculated 
     over.

  2. For details on how to prepare the multipart/signed with  protocol =
     "application/pkcs7-signature" see the "S/MIME  Message 
     Specification, PKCS Security Services for MIME".)

  3. Note that the textual first body part of the multipart/report can
be
     used to include a more detailed explanation of the error conditions

     reported by the disposition headers. The first body part of the 
     multipart/report when used in this way, allows a person to better 
     diagnose a problem in detail.

  4. As specified by RFC 1892 [10], returning the original or portions
of 
     the original message in the third body part of the multipart/report

     is not required. This is an optional body part. However, it is 
     RECOMMENDED that this body part be omitted or left blank.
*****************************************************

Terry Harding
Cyclone Commerce Inc.





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Inovis would like to see it move forward.

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Paul, 

You are correct,  sorry for the oversight. 

Terry Harding
Cyclone Commerce Inc.

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Hi there, 

Isn't draft-murray-auth-ftp-ssl-16.txt missing from this list?

It appears to be mandated in section 6.1 (I'm assuming that the
reference 
to [MURRAY] is just this).

Paul.

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Open for discussion


1.   Introduction

Previous work on Internet EDI focused on specifying MIME content types
for EDI data [2] and extending this work to support secure EC/EDI
transport over SMTP [5].  This document expands on RFC 1767 to specify
a comprehensive set of data security features, specifically data
privacy, data integrity, authenticity, non-repudiation of origin and
non-repudiation of receipt over FTP.  This document also recognizes
contemporary RFCs and is attempting to "re-invent" as little as
possible. While this document focuses on EDI data, any other data type
describable in a MIME format are also supported.

Internet MIME based EDI can be accomplished by using and complying
with the following RFC's and Internet drafts:

-RFC 959  File Transfer Protocol
-RFC 2228 FTP Security Extensions
-RFC 1767 EDI Content Type
-RFC 3023 XML Media Types
-RFC 1847 Security Multiparts for MIME
-RFC 1892 Multipart/Report
-RFC 2045 to 2049 MIME RFC's
-RFC 2298 Message Disposition Notification
-RFC 2630, 2632, 2633: S/MIME v3 Specifications
-RFC 3274 Compressed Data Content for Cryptographic Message
Syntax
-draft-ietf-ediint-compression-02.txt

Our intent here is to define clearly and precisely how these are used
together, and what is required by user agents to be compliant with
this document.

The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL   NOT",
"SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and  "OPTIONAL" in this
document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.
*****************************************************

Terry Harding
Cyclone Commerce Inc.





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