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Aren't tools great? Clearly not that great if you feel like you need this level of validation. From nobody Thu Jul 30 00:06:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: edm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: edm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE093A0EF6 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 00:06:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m57KDzqNNS5Y for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 00:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EA823A0EED for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 00:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [IPv6:2001:638:a000:4134::ffff:52]) by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1948548044; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:06:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix, from userid 10463) id E9911440043; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:06:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:06:08 +0200 From: Toerless Eckert To: Martin Thomson Cc: edm@iab.org Message-ID: <20200730070608.GS1772@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> References: <1029b50b-6985-4a8a-8cd6-8fedbe58c0c8@www.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1029b50b-6985-4a8a-8cd6-8fedbe58c0c8@www.fastmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Edm] Test to EDM list X-BeenThere: edm@iab.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Evolvability, Deployability, & Maintainability \(Proposed\) Program" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:06:17 -0000 Its a well established, yet badly documented part of ongoing deployment validation ;-) On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:56:48PM +1000, Martin Thomson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, at 04:32, John R Levine wrote: > > If you get this, we're both subscribed. Aren't tools great? > > Clearly not that great if you feel like you need this level of validation. > > -- > Edm mailing list > Edm@iab.org > https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/edm