From emu-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 02 23:17:07 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FF1j1-0002VS-NQ; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:17:07 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FF1j0-0002Ue-84 for emu@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:17:06 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FF1iz-0001Gk-0B for emu@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:17:06 -0500 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2006 20:17:05 -0800 Received: from E2K-SEA-XCH2.sea-alpha.cisco.com (e2k-sea-xch2.cisco.com [10.93.132.68]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k234H47T012217 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:17:04 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:23:54 -0800 Message-ID: <7210B31550AC934A8637D6619739CE6906B32C1F@e2k-sea-xch2.sea-alpha.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PSK Design Team Announcement Thread-Index: AcY+eVMCYKNi2geVQMmLqwf30NiGKQ== From: "Salowey, Joe" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Subject: [Emu] PSK Design Team Announcement X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emu-bounces@ietf.org The PSK design team has been formed. The PSK design team consists of: Mohamad Badra T. Charles Clancy David McGrew Sharma Suman Hannes Tschofenig Jesse Walker EMU chairs The design team will work on the following charter item: develop a mechanism based on strong shared secrets that meets RFC 3748 and RFC 4017 requirements. This mechanism should strive to be simple and compact for implementation in resource constrained environments. Please note that the design team only makes proposals and the WG has the control on the documents once they come out of the design team. Deliverables to the working group: 1. A statement of a basic approach to be used in developing the method sent to the working group list for discussion.=20 2. An initial draft submission for consideration by the working group. According to the charter this is due in July. The design team has already started its work and it should have an update on its progress on items 1 and 2 in the Dallas meeting.=20 _______________________________________________ Emu mailing list Emu@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu From emu-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 05 17:23:08 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FG1d6-0002YQ-I6; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:23:08 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FG1d4-0002YL-Ic for emu@ietf.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:23:06 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FG1d3-0003vM-9k for emu@ietf.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:23:06 -0500 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2006 14:23:06 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.02,165,1139212800"; d="scan'208"; a="259660517:sNHT30975512" Received: from E2K-SEA-XCH2.sea-alpha.cisco.com (e2k-sea-xch2.cisco.com [10.93.132.68]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k25MN47T014331 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 14:23:04 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Emu] PSK Design Team Announcement Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 14:29:56 -0800 Message-ID: <7210B31550AC934A8637D6619739CE6906B32E6D@e2k-sea-xch2.sea-alpha.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Emu] PSK Design Team Announcement Thread-Index: AcY+eVMCYKNi2geVQMmLqwf30NiGKQCKPvYg From: "Salowey, Joe" To: "Salowey, Joe" , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Cc: X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emu-bounces@ietf.org I carelessly left Lakshminath Dondeti of the list of design team members, my apologies Laksminath. =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Salowey, Joe=20 > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:24 PM > To: emu@ietf.org > Subject: [Emu] PSK Design Team Announcement >=20 > The PSK design team has been formed. >=20 > The PSK design team consists of: >=20 > Mohamad Badra > T. Charles Clancy > David McGrew > Sharma Suman > Hannes Tschofenig > Jesse Walker > EMU chairs >=20 > The design team will work on the following charter item: >=20 > develop a mechanism based on strong > shared secrets that meets RFC 3748 and RFC 4017 requirements. > This mechanism should strive to be simple and compact for > implementation in resource constrained environments. >=20 > Please note that the design team only makes proposals and the=20 > WG has the > control on the documents once they come out of the design team. >=20 > Deliverables to the working group: >=20 > 1. A statement of a basic approach to be used in developing the method > sent to the working group list for discussion.=20 >=20 > 2. An initial draft submission for consideration by the working group. > According to the charter this is due in July. >=20 > The design team has already started its work and it should have an > update on its progress on items 1 and 2 in the Dallas meeting.=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Emu mailing list > Emu@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu >=20 _______________________________________________ Emu mailing list Emu@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu From emu-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 08 03:06:58 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FGthC-0004BX-8k; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:06:58 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FGthB-0004AQ-IL for emu@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:06:57 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net ([193.234.218.130]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FGth7-000537-6u for emu@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:06:57 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9804689884 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:06:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [193.234.218.130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507AB89852 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:06:51 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <440E909A.4050101@piuha.net> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:06:50 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emu@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Subject: [Emu] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-mahy-eap-enrollment-01.txt X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emu-bounces@ietf.org Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > > Title : An Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) Enrollment Method > Author(s) : R. Mahy > Filename : draft-mahy-eap-enrollment-01.txt > Pages : 21 > Date : 2006-3-7 > >This document introduces a new EAP Method intended to automatically >enroll clients with minimal user interaction in a wireless LAN >environment. The enrollment process involves the client providing >weak possibly temporary credentials and the server providing stronger >persistent credentials, both stages over a TLS-protected channel. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mahy-eap-enrollment-01.txt > > _______________________________________________ Emu mailing list Emu@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu From emu-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 09 02:09:20 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FHFGy-0002ps-JB; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:09:20 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FHFGx-0002mr-JH for emu@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:09:19 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net ([193.234.218.130]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FHFGt-0006Ro-31 for emu@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 02:09:19 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2D189897 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:09:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [193.234.218.130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B610B89886 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:09:12 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <440FD497.4090406@piuha.net> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:09:11 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emu@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Subject: [Emu] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-funk-eap-ttls-v1-01.txt X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emu-bounces@ietf.org Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > > Title : EAP Tunneled TLS Authentication Protocol Version 1 (EAP-TTLSv1) > Author(s) : P. Funk, S. Blake-Wilson > Filename : draft-funk-eap-ttls-v1-01.txt > Pages : 22 > Date : 2006-3-8 > >EAP-TTLS is an EAP type that utilizes TLS to establish a secure >connection between a client and server, through which additional >information may be exchanged. The initial TLS handshake may mutually >authenticate client and server; or it may perform a one-way >authentication, in which only the server is authenticated to the >client. The secure connection established by the initial handshake >may then be used to allow the server to authenticate the client >using existing, widely-deployed authentication infrastructures such >as RADIUS. The authentication of the client may itself be EAP, or it >may be another authentication protocol such as PAP, CHAP, MS-CHAP or >MS-CHAP-V2. > >Thus, EAP-TTLS allows legacy password-based authentication protocols >to be used against existing authentication databases, while >protecting the security of these legacy protocols against >eavesdropping, man-in-the-middle and other cryptographic attacks. > >EAP-TTLS also allows client and server to exchange other information >in addition to authentication-related information. > >This document describes EAP-TTLSv1; that is, version 1 of the EAP- >TTLS protocol. It represents a significant enhancement to the >original version 0 of the protocol. EAP-TTLSv1 utilizes an extended >version of TLS, called TLS/IA (TLS/InnerApplication) as its >underlying protocol [TLS/IA]. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-funk-eap-ttls-v1-01.txt > > _______________________________________________ Emu mailing list Emu@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu From emu-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 09 07:39:15 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FHKQF-00070s-D7; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:39:15 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FHKQE-00070n-7I for emu@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:39:14 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net ([193.234.218.130]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FHKQC-0000Hp-Op for emu@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:39:14 -0500 Received: from p130.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001F89864; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:39:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [193.234.218.130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D2089842; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:39:10 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <441021ED.3050508@piuha.net> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:39:09 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emu@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9ed51c9d1356100bce94f1ae4ec616a9 Cc: Subject: [Emu] EMU WG agenda for IETF-65, take one X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emu-bounces@ietf.org Here's the initial plan for our session in Dallas. Send e-mail to the co-chairs if you have suggestions or other input regarding this agenda. EAP Method Update WG (emu) TUESDAY, March 21, 2006 1850-1950 Afternoon Session IV Room Monet WGs meeting at the same time: calsify, l3vpn, monami6, simple, dccp, ippm 1. Administrative (Chairs) - Notes takers - Agenda bashing - Document status 2. EAP-TLS "bis" work (Bernard Aboba) http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/internet-drafts/draft-simon-emu-rfc2716bis-01.txt http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht?url1=http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2716.txt&url2=http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-simon-emu-rfc2716bis-01.txt Bernard Aboba has submitted a "bis" document for EAP-TLS, RF 2716. This fits EMU charter item 1. Discussion to focus on gathering implementation experience, clarifications, and security considerations. 3. Strong shared secret method work (TBD) No draft. Design team working on this, see: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/emu/current/msg00026.html This fits EMU charter item 3. By Dallas, the design team has met twice. Based on the first meeting, the team has identified a number of questions relating to the method's design and has made some progress towards having common answers to those questions. The purpose of the discussion in Dallas is to present some of the design questions and tentative answers, and to allow early feedback. Initial draft to be submitted from the DT by IETF-66. 4. AOB _______________________________________________ Emu mailing list Emu@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu From emu-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 21 18:03:22 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FLpso-00018O-LB; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:03:22 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FLpsm-00018J-GJ for emu@ietf.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:03:20 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FLpsl-0008UH-81 for emu@ietf.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:03:20 -0500 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2006 14:58:27 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.03,116,1141632000"; d="scan'208"; a="1787027222:sNHT6327447840" Received: from E2K-SEA-XCH2.sea-alpha.cisco.com (e2k-sea-xch2.cisco.com [10.93.132.68]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k2LMwPw1011553 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:58:25 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:05:27 -0800 Message-ID: <7210B31550AC934A8637D6619739CE6906C6F52C@e2k-sea-xch2.sea-alpha.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IETF 65 Meeting info Thread-Index: AcZNOvUGRNtt72f8QGyA9b5c92616w== From: "Salowey, Joe" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Subject: [Emu] IETF 65 Meeting info X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emu-bounces@ietf.org Audio feed: http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ Jabber: HOST: rooms.jabber.ietf.org ROOM: emu Slides: =09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=3D6= 5 _______________________________________________ Emu mailing list Emu@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu From emu-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 23 00:08:49 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FMI41-0005fV-E5; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:08:49 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FMI3z-0005fP-Tq for emu@ietf.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:08:47 -0500 Received: from test-iport-1.cisco.com ([171.71.176.117]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FMI3y-0007QI-Ly for emu@ietf.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:08:47 -0500 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by test-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2006 21:08:46 -0800 Received: from E2K-SEA-XCH2.sea-alpha.cisco.com (e2k-sea-xch2.cisco.com [10.93.132.68]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k2N58j7T008175; Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:08:46 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:15:49 -0800 Message-ID: <7210B31550AC934A8637D6619739CE6906C6F905@e2k-sea-xch2.sea-alpha.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: EMU Working group summary Thread-Index: AcZON9t6OlLUcysKQzCEoccuwBcYdg== From: "Salowey, Joe" To: , "Russ Housley" , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Cc: saag@mit.edu Subject: [Emu] EMU Working group summary X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emu-bounces@ietf.org EAP Method Update Working Group Summary TUESDAY, March 21, 2006 1. Strong Shared Secret Design Team Update The goal is to develop a simple EAP method based on strong shared secrets implementable is resource constrained environments. The approach is to develop a method that is not based on TLS, only require the use of symmetric crypto and operates between two parties. There is a desire to minimize the number of cryptographic primitives necessary. Algorithm agility is a requirement.=20 + First draft of strong shared secret for working group consideration due before next IETF 2. EAP-TLS bis The goal is to bring EAP-TLS into standards track. EAP-TLS is an EAP mechanism based on TLS 1.x certificate based cipher suites with client side certificates. It shares the same algorithm agility and hash function properties as TLS. Working Group showed interest in draft-simon-emu-rfc2716bis-01.txt and there was some consensus to adopt draft as working group item. + People offered to review draft and provide implementation feedback=20 _______________________________________________ Emu mailing list Emu@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu