From nobody Thu Mar 1 08:54:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C891012E89C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=salowey-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y2tn0kYizguR for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pf0-x22c.google.com (mail-pf0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 206D9126C89 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 17so2683147pfw.11 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:54:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=salowey-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ylr3Udz3W5/1y4sCLipYFgfV5vEYEGk9toaCuMDbSSI=; b=GVVYDS21FT4FJdqRAJLvUB+NV6+dIeOm/mdGUyZDgbs9KccjKtV1s8f97c+pEEafXu Pgv+I49IEAkgijvr3V7MncXJkd+EWoaQd6lorsLMQmTXlxHrByZjka+fXo2hlhjNr6IV Gb47DmaO2LPYZSuiOTlGLfzTu3LuVH40pFeeYuuNKLpvEn5xKN9WPWXgZnRMxJGzN3zt Wab3IIxTxsCidbcu8uUjXygJmjhNW2IQtCLrdwgyko0C8vsPc+yx55Zv9/M8jYBwYZ6E EIk7mkdpsps2BVYQiMH61sI1lImfa8wvOlImoySdsuipbklXGcynzqwzd5QkVbX7JHK7 1jyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ylr3Udz3W5/1y4sCLipYFgfV5vEYEGk9toaCuMDbSSI=; b=OTSaUd9v3Zz88/J4QUD9vXc+kcr594FV8DT+boCq5uT8BHy4lFSPsiy233LuxRno78 ggjvcGVzwD0Pw1FjAojwHbzApRxPeo5yFxDMBoPin+R2OUY91eGaZtU9oo+YjZAfvAnm EZqz43vplh+lWii1Thr740JP8WzrwKCz8KkKzRQ43mypSNhuRUGWIzgbuoYHjDxzy/u2 1KkTjTiR8NmlN6VF7fK4b55QyOyN58/AofmV6nRtvPFB7EYkOa3TpGegvBz0H4dfjhD8 3m/8+m63PvyUOqi/D7eG3xDBHPz88p+EJ4NlyJpTJqk2LEaEauI8n8Eh+SypS46SI4eg aTMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPCZF7viE7hh/gT2Aq2Uyv3za4wwq5EIfRts7ZWfTomsrLWqpQrr NvIowJaujIJ7sesJR7SNwM17U/VG9+kZc7lcte9OI+Dj X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtglTLeTwwUPBA7b65WUM+5x5S2Sq6zBgNKLcJbGJN0OrWkDEjfixkOFsc7OdBQdsdb+5UZASyR4zxEJCa8YM0= X-Received: by 10.98.189.8 with SMTP id a8mr2597298pff.125.1519923286404; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 08:54:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.185.5 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:54:25 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Salowey Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:54:25 -0800 Message-ID: To: emu@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403043ba57892817705665cb7b2" Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] Call for agenda items X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 16:54:49 -0000 --f403043ba57892817705665cb7b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The EMU working group will meet on 15:50-17:20 Monday Afternoon session II in London. Please let me know if you have something you want to present at the meeting. Cheers, Joe --f403043ba57892817705665cb7b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The EMU working group will meet on 15:50-17:20 Monday Afternoon session II in London.
Please let me know if you have something you want to present at= the meeting.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Cheers,

Joe
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I plan to submit new version of = drafts on both topics. 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6.74.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: The IESG , emu-chairs@ietf.org, emu@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <152027123201.14559.14881985642958870016.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 09:33:52 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] WG Action: Formed EAP Method Update (emu) X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 17:33:52 -0000 The EAP Method Update (emu) WG in the Security Area of the IETF has been reopened. For additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chair. EAP Method Update (emu) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Current status: Proposed WG Chairs: Joseph Salowey Assigned Area Director: Kathleen Moriarty Security Area Directors: Kathleen Moriarty Eric Rescorla Mailing list: Address: emu@ietf.org To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=emu Group page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emu/ Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-emu/ The Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) [RFC 3748] is a network access authentication framework used, for instance, in 802.11 and VPN networks and mobile networks. EAP itself is a simple protocol and actual authentication happens in EAP methods. Over 50 different EAP methods exist, including several methods developed in the IETF, and support for EAP exists in a broad set of different devices. Previous larger EAP-related efforts at the IETF included rewriting the base EAP protocol documentation and the development of several standards track EAP methods. EAP methods are generally based on existing other security technologies, such as TLS, SIM cards, and various algorithms. Some of these technologies continue to evolve. The understanding of security threats in today's Internet evolves as well, which has driven some of the evolution in these underlying technologies. At the same time, some new use cases for EAP have been identified, such as broader use of EAP in mobile network authentication. This working group has been chartered to provide updates to some commonly used EAP methods. Specifically, the working group shall produce documents to: - Provide a guidance or update to enable the use of TLS 1.3 in the context of EAP TLS (RFC 5216). Update the security considerations relating to EAP TLS, to document the implications of using new vs. old TLS versions, any recently gained new knowledge on vulnerabilities, and the possible implications of pervasive surveillance. - Update the EAP-AKA' specification (RFC 5448) to ensure that its capability to provide a cryptographic binding to network context stays in sync with what updates may come to the referenced 3GPP specifications through the use of EAP in 5G. Also, the group should document any recently gained new knowledge on vulnerabilities or the possible implications of pervasive surveillance or other new concerns. - Define session identifiers for fast re-authentication for EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA, and EAP-AKA’. The lack of this definition is a recently discovered bug in the original RFCs. - Develop an extension to EAP-AKA' such that Perfect Forward Secrecy can be provided. There may also be privacy improvements that have become feasible with the introduction of recent identity privacy improvements in 3GPP networks. - Gather experience regarding the use of large certificate and certificate chain sizes in the context of EAP-TLS (all versions), as some implementations and access networks may limit the number of EAP packet exchanges that can be handled. Document operational recommendations or other mitigation strategies to avoid issues. In all of the above, it is a requirement that none of the updates break backwards compatibility with existing specifications or implementations. The current EAP-TLS RFCs will not be obsoleted but rather updated with either new information or instructions on what is needed, for instance, to employ a new TLS version. The working group is expected to stay in close collaboration with the EAP deployment community, the TLS working group (for EAP-TLS work), and the 3GPP security architecture group (for EAP-AKA' work). Milestones: Mar 2018 - Working Group Established Apr 2018 - WG adopts initial draft on guidance for EAP TLS with TLS 1.3 Apr 2018 - WG adopts initial draft on EAP-AKA update, RFC5448-bis, including definition session identifiers for fast re-authentication for EAP-AKA' Sep 2018 - WG last call on EAP-AKA update, RFC5448-bis Oct 2018 - WG adopts initial draft on extension to EAP-AKA to support forward secrecy Oct 2018 - WG adopts initial draft on definition of session identifiers for fast re-authentication for EAP-SIM and EAP-AKA Nov 2018 - WG last call on guidance for EAP TLS with TLS 1.3 Dec 2018 - WG adopts initial draft on operational recommendations for large certificate and chain sizes Jan 2019 - WG last call on definition of session identifiers for fast re-authentication in EAP-SIM and EAP-AKA Feb 2019 - WG last call on extension to EAP-AKA to support forward secrecy May 2019 - WG last call on operational recommendations for large certificate and chain sizes From nobody Mon Mar 5 14:19:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCB9126DD9 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:19:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.908 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.908 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xMRVITchAEgU for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:1829::130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47413126D05 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60276660254 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:19:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a3A2t13tAMXC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:19:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:1829::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1BA1660182 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:19:02 +0200 (EET) From: Jari Arkko Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9A4CED9F-4869-4F23-9882-2A588D7EAD1F" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: <660C4D83-C516-4A5C-A8EC-B2B033E1C71C@piuha.net> References: <152025952697.14644.11871686393889096847.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: emu@ietf.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:19:02 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs-01.txt X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:19:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9A4CED9F-4869-4F23-9882-2A588D7EAD1F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FYI > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs-01.txt > Date: 5 March 2018 at 16.18.46 GMT+2 > To: "Jari Arkko" , "Vesa Torvinen" = , "Karl Norrman" >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs-01.txt > has been successfully submitted by Jari Arkko and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs > Revision: 01 > Title: Perfect-Forward Secrecy for the Extensible = Authentication Protocol Method for Authentication and Key Agreement = (EAP-AKA' PFS) > Document date: 2018-03-05 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 22 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs-01.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs-01 > Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs-01 > Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs-01 >=20 > Abstract: > Many different attacks have been reported as part of revelations > associated with pervasive surveillance. Some of the reported = attacks > involved compromising smart cards, such as attacking SIM card > manufacturers and operators in an effort to compromise shared = secrets > stored on these cards. Since the publication of those reports, > manufacturing and provisioning processes have gained much scrutiny > and have improved. However, the danger of resourceful attackers for > these systems is still a concern. >=20 > This specification is an optional extension to the EAP-AKA' > authentication method which was defined in RFC 5448. The extension > provides Perfect Forward Secrecy for the session key generated as a > part of the authentication run in EAP-AKA'. This prevents an > attacker who has gained access to the long-term pre-shared secret in > a SIM card from merely passively eavesdropping the EAP-AKA' = exchanges > and deriving associated session keys, forcing attackers to use = active > attacks instead. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 --Apple-Mail=_9A4CED9F-4869-4F23-9882-2A588D7EAD1F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii FYI

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Title:= = Perfect-Forward Secrecy for the Extensible Authentication = Protocol Method for Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA' PFS)
Document date: 2018-03-05
Group:= = Individual Submission
Pages: 22
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Abstract:
=   Many different attacks have been reported as part of = revelations
  associated with pervasive = surveillance.  Some of the reported attacks
=   involved compromising smart cards, such as attacking SIM = card
  manufacturers and operators in an effort = to compromise shared secrets
  stored on these = cards.  Since the publication of those reports,
=   manufacturing and provisioning processes have gained much = scrutiny
  and have improved.  However, = the danger of resourceful attackers for
  these = systems is still a concern.

=   This specification is an optional extension to the = EAP-AKA'
  authentication method which was = defined in RFC 5448.  The extension
=   provides Perfect Forward Secrecy for the session key = generated as a
  part of the authentication run = in EAP-AKA'.  This prevents an
  attacker = who has gained access to the long-term pre-shared secret in
=   a SIM card from merely passively eavesdropping the EAP-AKA' = exchanges
  and deriving associated session = keys, forcing attackers to use active
  attacks = instead.




Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the = time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are = available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF = Secretariat


= --Apple-Mail=_9A4CED9F-4869-4F23-9882-2A588D7EAD1F-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 14:20:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551FB12711E for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:20:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.908 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.908 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CMcppNl3QztU for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:1829::130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B5A12E8AA for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D680660254 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:20:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G7cqPj-LEJ31 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:20:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:1829::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94F32660182 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:20:02 +0200 (EET) From: Jari Arkko Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3196EC24-D389-4345-B688-8A4EA990769C" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: <0DF44501-FDD3-4CB5-B302-8F4B92D26F73@piuha.net> References: <152025951702.14575.9234424214975524341.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: emu@ietf.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 00:20:02 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01.txt X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 22:20:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3196EC24-D389-4345-B688-8A4EA990769C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FYI > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01.txt > Date: 5 March 2018 at 16.18.37 GMT+2 > To: "Jari Arkko" , "Vesa Lehtovirta" = , "Vesa Torvinen" = , "Pasi Eronen" >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01.txt > has been successfully submitted by Jari Arkko and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis > Revision: 01 > Title: Improved Extensible Authentication Protocol = Method for 3rd Generation Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA') > Document date: 2018-03-05 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 31 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis/ > Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01 > Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01 > Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01 >=20 > Abstract: > This specification defines a new EAP method, EAP-AKA', a small > revision of the EAP-AKA method. The change is a new key derivation > function that binds the keys derived within the method to the name = of > the access network. The new key derivation mechanism has been > defined in the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP). This > specification allows its use in EAP in an interoperable manner. In > addition, EAP-AKA' employs SHA-256 instead of SHA-1. >=20 > This specification also updates RFC 4187 EAP-AKA to prevent bidding > down attacks from EAP-AKA'. >=20 > This version of the EAP-AKA' specification updates a reference to > constructing one field in the protocol, so that EAP-AKA' becomes > compatible with 5G deployments as well. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 --Apple-Mail=_3196EC24-D389-4345-B688-8A4EA990769C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii FYI

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From: = internet-drafts@ietf.org
Subject: = New Version = Notification for draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01.txt
Date: = 5 March 2018 at 16.18.37 = GMT+2
To: = "Jari Arkko" <jari.arkko@piuha.net>, "Vesa Lehtovirta" <vesa.lehtovirta@ericsson.com>, "Vesa Torvinen" <vesa.torvinen@ericsson.com>, "Pasi Eronen" <pasi.eronen@nokia.com>


A new version = of I-D, draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01.txt
has been = successfully submitted by Jari Arkko and posted to the
IETF = repository.

Name: = draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis
Revision: 01
Title:= = Improved Extensible Authentication Protocol Method for 3rd = Generation Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA')
Document date: 2018-03-05
Group:= = Individual Submission
Pages: 31
URL: =            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis= -01.txt
Status: =         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-01Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bi= s-01
Diff: =           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-arkko-eap-rfc5448bis-= 01

Abstract:
=   This specification defines a new EAP method, EAP-AKA', a = small
  revision of the EAP-AKA method. =  The change is a new key derivation
=   function that binds the keys derived within the method to = the name of
  the access network.  The new = key derivation mechanism has been
  defined in = the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP).  This
=   specification allows its use in EAP in an interoperable = manner.  In
  addition, EAP-AKA' employs = SHA-256 instead of SHA-1.

  This = specification also updates RFC 4187 EAP-AKA to prevent bidding
  down attacks from EAP-AKA'.

  This version of the EAP-AKA' specification = updates a reference to
  constructing one field = in the protocol, so that EAP-AKA' becomes
=   compatible with 5G deployments as well.




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Agenda Bashing, Note Well, Note Take, Jabber Scribe, Blue Sheets, Etc (10 Min) 2. TLS 1.3 Clarifications and handling large cet chains for EAP-TLS - John Mattsson (20 Min) 3. EAP-AKA Revision - RFC 5448 - Jari Arkko (15 Min) 4. EAP-AKA PFS - Jari Arkko (15 Min) 5. Session identifiers for fast re-authentication - Alan DeKok (10 Min) 6. Enrollment with TEAP - Eliot Lear (15 Min) Cheers, Joe --94eb2c03bc52692f0b05672bc691 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/agen= da-101-emu

IETF 101 - EAP Method =
Update Agenda
London
Monday, March 19, 2018 - 15:50-17:20


1. Agenda Bashing, Note Well, Note Take, Jabber Scribe, Blue Sheets, Etc (1=
0 Min)
2. TLS 1.3 Clarifications and handling large cet chains for EAP-TLS  - John=
 Mattsson (20 Min)
3. EAP-AKA Revision - RFC 5448 - Jari Arkko (15 Min)
4. EAP-AKA PFS - Jari Arkko (15 Min)=20
5. Session identifiers for fast re-authentication  - Alan DeKok (10 Min)
6. Enrollment with TEAP - Eliot Lear (15 Min)
Cheers,

Joe
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We plan to test EAP-TLS implementations with large certificates and long certificate chains. We will use open source wpa_supplicant/hostapd implementations and we will have a D-Link enterprise access point available on-site. Our goal is to collect statistics of EAP-TLS authentication with different types of certificates and certificate chains. This would serve as input to the EAP Method Update (EMU) working group which has recently been re-chartered: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/emu/charter/ We look forward to your contributions. The project description is also available in the hackathon wiki: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/101hackathon --Mohit --------------DCA9E0052735E731EAEA8C74 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Dear all,

A few of us would be participating in the IETF hackathon. We plan to test EAP-TLS implementations with large certificates and long certificate chains. We will use open source wpa_supplicant/hostapd implementations and we will have a D-Link enterprise access point available on-site.

Our goal is to collect statistics of EAP-TLS authentication with different types of certificates and certificate chains. This would serve as input to the EAP Method Update (EMU) working group which has recently been re-chartered: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/emu/charter/

We look forward to your contributions. The project description is also available in the hackathon wiki:
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/101hackathon

--Mohit

--------------DCA9E0052735E731EAEA8C74-- From nobody Fri Mar 16 13:37:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9978F12D87A for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=salowey-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hz2BUc9yuVmO for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pl0-x22a.google.com (mail-pl0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 791401252BA for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id ay1-v6so6580854plb.7 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=salowey-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MUW7CcTmvzlUOdCO2SetkMKthXfJUddRlcEjgSACRU0=; b=ilo/jx9zrzi5LS7IKQ4MA7hYbHD++Xt0slruj4TUD23rhlsHBMNap4zjsZ6A5mrtRn ohN2MhoUicRtjfnk7YYHqCpa17gF9THTBF7zeX/WE1BpvmcLByZSqD6pa7FrsU1N83M9 PK4pbfcoupmvwFvPk/SCFiBlsRkiCmZdqLeWzYM2qT66z728EPbs2JpPUpnq2SjYckaC HwdLm/1NuTbai5ZBKUEoiWgswV8sxo8j8K29Ve5LyQTALgZcgYfCpuWDh0JYFi/DVKAq Cwi97RejJ2dKzpTjGQhSXgFshECeyBNYSdvV14FXH7LLWFFlU4aGcx6LhuxUHPC02GR0 UUVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MUW7CcTmvzlUOdCO2SetkMKthXfJUddRlcEjgSACRU0=; b=I4bpqUInuya4QmZz94+fTHqj/IH+G/QkeumbwEIs5E5WRPMBozeiMORYausgVWPTJh KYFcUnw31cM2+sZrVixribKIel3nFCyyTEXN5XU5BD5rsEODw1LYrvtL3OhYxUzWl1+4 fWIJoQ5cTGTIZucrJ16/zpRGN2gqNxjaUEq6Gbv27YvlwhCW6bXjUvm9r9/upDluP53C u9+9zoXUXFfeUo66LjW/zOmOiCdlIbqcSukB5d5Rd5No8b29IL9XcIisTNxcyAyZ1/8N CZ/9QDVdrQDhZJUkaXm01WKZ+IGhpaL75yu51DtIqAjMdMvQ0DWbbVmsuiFJNstcfjUQ PPvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7GfvvEtHzLBdxYo6d2SgrjzHnWSTt6vJTcco5V1ykIUF6GwDqTS htE+TmNUaKMvh3KQi8/LHMdTPheJh8Y5mymgaoWnbA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELvcndUbFe9Rjk1Vf3y7ZzowKS00JnnJlDtBXLh+qTu8cvho56Rb5F0lW+yeyIF9erBLfd9QP+M+ZTBruB7po9U= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b703:: with SMTP id d3-v6mr3427080pls.209.1521232613617; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.166.69 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:36:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Salowey Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:36:32 -0700 Message-ID: To: emu@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008e417e05678d9160" Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] EMU Presentations X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 20:37:02 -0000 --0000000000008e417e05678d9160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" If you are on the agenda please send my your presentations so I can upload them before the meeting. Cheers, Joe --0000000000008e417e05678d9160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
If you are on the agenda please send my your presentations so I can upload them before the meeting.

Cheers,

Joe
--0000000000008e417e05678d9160-- From nobody Sat Mar 17 10:22:51 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2B8126C83 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:22:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pxsmyMeqK1Mg for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sessmg22.ericsson.net (sessmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A25C12D72F for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:22:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=ericsson.com; s=mailgw201801; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@ericsson.com; t=1521307366; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:CC:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Oyg/01MxKHN3shSt2NVxVPxEPxsi+JCpZgTn/UOS2bk=; b=ewUp3EXgU+/ixVVabbLeYHRGDXPpFZKtTY0ZGqV4np6eHyitU84Wl3c5MU1olutO BdbR8YmYj+dMVS7auyjK1j7CPunfpvlP4tHp1kOk89Qxb4YnMMZzQbuW+uZw9G85 KE37mbgemCowBjViJDg3ffcN+pcsgcA+Z+++dFfkcKM=; X-AuditID: c1b4fb3a-728f89c0000067b4-db-5aad4ee64a72 Received: from ESESSHC013.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.57]) by sessmg22.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id E7.94.26548.6EE4DAA5; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 18:22:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from nomadiclab.fi.eu.ericsson.se (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 18:22:45 +0100 Received: from nomadiclab.fi.eu.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.fi.eu.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C189F4812F7; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 19:22:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by nomadiclab.fi.eu.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710E04812DC; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 19:22:44 +0200 (EET) To: Alan DeKok , , Aleksi Peltonen , CC: Bernard Aboba References: <4D44B5F1-AE1E-4564-8366-31903B76FA9D@piuha.net> <574BCF7A-8172-4B12-9FB2-96CD3E4ECD76@deployingradius.com> <1345eef5-9f7d-afaf-71b9-7ebbac6e47c7@ericsson.com> <3AFB3ED0-A3E0-4052-A5E3-7DB589127F66@deployingradius.com> From: Mohit Sethi Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:22:44 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3AFB3ED0-A3E0-4052-A5E3-7DB589127F66@deployingradius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprEIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7pe4zv7VRBitOSFo0fW5it/h7aCGj xYZ9/5ktNu5JtTi2fi2LA6vH8deLWT2m3W9h9Gg52sLisXPWXXaPJUt+MgWwRnHZpKTmZJal FunbJXBlzL1ylrngn2BFW/NL1gbG/XxdjJwcEgImEs9mbGLvYuTiEBI4zCixvmUnC4Szg1Hi 8osdUJlNjBJTv05jhnAWMErM6/rMDNIvLOAmceHkKrAWEYFmRon337YxgSSYBbQl3rxZCNX+ hlHi5PMjYAk2AT2JznPHwbp5Bewldm9bxQhiswioSvQ1f2MBsUUFIiQ6V85ngagRlDg58wmY zSngLrG0axHUAguJmfPPM8IsW7bwNTOELS5x68l8JojvlCUWtCwCqxESUJfY2nGAcQKjyCwk Y2chGTULyahZSEYtYGRZxShanFpcnJtuZKSXWpSZXFycn6eXl1qyiREYUwe3/LbawXjwueMh RgEORiUe3mCrtVFCrIllxZW5hxglOJiVRHiNHYBCvCmJlVWpRfnxRaU5qcWHGKU5WJTEeZ3S LKKEBNITS1KzU1MLUotgskwcnFINjJPTPs9PErjDMPOJ0E8bCcdt34p+GG572PGH446b/KVd l6tSU6VurpEuKHLoYRCb9e7Eqn3VsZsY3Hb+kTBw+Nezfc2i2WWmx5YtdDaaJlHklzNpf+wd h69X90+4WBF7s3Sxk4zU7HfPGD13TNn93++DSeyS/jDzQ0ytCio8P0x+3+GKzAjW3KnEUpyR aKjFXFScCAB4AVeapQIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] Potential re-establishment of the EMU working group X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:22:50 -0000 Hi Alan and Bernard, Darshak, Aleksi and I are currently running some experiments at the IETF = hackathon to re-produce the problem of EAP-TLS authentication with large = certificates and long chains. We have been generating root CA certificates, intermediate CA=20 certificates, and end-entity certificates (with RSA 4096-bit keys). We=20 are using a standard D-Link DWL6600AP1 access point. In the morning, the client and server were always able to authentication = each other successfully. We added about 7 intermediate CAs in-between=20 the client end-entity certificate and the root-CA certificate. However,=20 the client and server were still able to complete the EAP authentication = successfully. We then started reducing the EAP fragment_size in wpa_supplicant from=20 the default of 1396 bytes to about 200 bytes. And as you had mentioned=20 on the list, the AP drops the session after about 39/40 message=20 exchanges and sends a new EAP-Identity request. From back of the envelope calculations, for such failure to happen with = the default EAP fragment_size of 1396 bytes, the certificate chain on=20 the client has to be about 55000 bytes. We wonder if this is true and if = this is encountered in deployments often? Are we missing something? Do=20 you have some numbers on the size of the certificate chain and the EAP=20 fragment_size from your deployment experience? --Mohit On 02/05/2018 12:41 PM, Alan DeKok wrote: > On Feb 5, 2018, at 4:03 AM, Mohit Sethi wr= ote: >> Thanks for raising this issue. I am trying to understand the problem o= f large certificates and longer certificate chains a bit better. >> >> From your deployment experience, is the problem equally bad for authe= ntication in both directions (i.e. both client and server certificates ar= e large with long certificate chains)? > More so for clients. > >> And is the problem only the number of EAP messages/packets, or also th= e duration of a single authentication run (i.e. AP implementations drop E= AP session if not completed within x seconds/minutes)? > Mainly the number of EAP messages. The duration is less of an issue= , because it almost always happens within a second. > > Alan DeKok. > From nobody Mon Mar 19 03:51:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D017126E64 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 03:51:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ECpWvSiBxstX for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 03:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.networkradius.com (mail.networkradius.com [62.210.147.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA19128D2E for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 03:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-943a.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-943a.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.148.58]) by mail.networkradius.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B4F84D5; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Alan DeKok In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:50:55 +0000 Cc: emu@ietf.org, Aleksi Peltonen , d.thakore@cablelabs.com, Bernard Aboba Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D44B5F1-AE1E-4564-8366-31903B76FA9D@piuha.net> <574BCF7A-8172-4B12-9FB2-96CD3E4ECD76@deployingradius.com> <1345eef5-9f7d-afaf-71b9-7ebbac6e47c7@ericsson.com> <3AFB3ED0-A3E0-4052-A5E3-7DB589127F66@deployingradius.com> To: Mohit Sethi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] Potential re-establishment of the EMU working group X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:51:03 -0000 On Mar 17, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Mohit Sethi = wrote: > In the morning, the client and server were always able to = authentication each other successfully. We added about 7 intermediate = CAs in-between the client end-entity certificate and the root-CA = certificate. However, the client and server were still able to complete = the EAP authentication successfully. That's good. > We then started reducing the EAP fragment_size in wpa_supplicant from = the default of 1396 bytes to about 200 bytes. And as you had mentioned = on the list, the AP drops the session after about 39/40 message = exchanges and sends a new EAP-Identity request. Yes. > =46rom back of the envelope calculations, for such failure to happen = with the default EAP fragment_size of 1396 bytes, the certificate chain = on the client has to be about 55000 bytes. We wonder if this is true and = if this is encountered in deployments often? Are we missing something? = Do you have some numbers on the size of the certificate chain and the = EAP fragment_size from your deployment experience? Some. People tend to complain about problems. But they don't tend to = share certificate chains. =20 Typically the EAP fragment size is at least 1020, as that's the = mandated minimum to support. It's often not a lot larger than that. = There are many products which support large Ethernet frames, but somehow = can't forward EAP packets which nearly fill those frames. Also, for certificate chains, the issue is less the number of = certificates than what's in them. e.g. A certificate containing a name "Min Ye" will be smaller than one = containing a name like "UMAMAHESWARI SUBBING" (both taken from the IETF = attendee list for examples.) The same applies for the rest of the fields. Do the certs contain = corporate addresses? Additional OIDs describing permitted uses? Lists = of groups that the user is a member of? All of that information can bloat the certificate chain. Meaning that = only a few *large* certificates could reach the ~50K limit. Instead of testing with a large number of small certificates, it would = be be useful to test with *real-world* data. i.e. create certificates = which contain all of the possible information (names, addresses, etc.) = where all of that information is as large as possible. That gets you a rough upper limit on the size of the certificate.=20 Even the sample certificates I use for FreeRADIUS testing easily reach = 2.5Kb, with only small amounts of test information in them. Alan DeKok. 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This is a call for adoption of this draft as a working group item. If you have an objection or concern ablout adopting this draft please respond to the list by April 10, 2018. Cheers, Joe --94eb2c0324f67f3b5d05687bd295 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
At the IETF 101 EMU meeting in London there was good suppo= rt for adopting=C2=A0draft-mattsson-eap-tls13-02 as a working group item.= =C2=A0 This is a call for adoption of this draft as a working group item.= =C2=A0 If you have an objection or concern ablout adopting this draft pleas= e respond to the list by April 10, 2018.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Che= ers,

Joe


--94eb2c0324f67f3b5d05687bd295-- From nobody Wed Mar 28 23:40:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDE312D7F3 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:40:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.319 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.319 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sciysd9Qzzg1 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg22.ericsson.net (sesbmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31A1C12D7F2 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:40:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=ericsson.com; s=mailgw201801; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@ericsson.com; t=1522305652; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=87FKo8dN8/Ngy+cQvn7PJ8wQQAWwLoTqPPVyObcw3fE=; b=JU39iJKOjOC+rAmW5t8avW7ZcTN0RYEwJkW6YwZ9J6nr+gx9N+79xlLcEEo0sk1h W1Su6t894sXdoiLF6crtdpPofeiXAPgSZOTMmTAd5rwtwR90b0AW3XPFnia9N7Cy MHZjCTG/CDnO7Iow7vnVvJMZnVgeRgGZPXc7OWqpbMI=; X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-e6c349c000005e22-b0-5abc8a744f83 Received: from ESESSHC018.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.72]) by sesbmg22.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 76.36.24098.47A8CBA5; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:40:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nomadiclab.fi.eu.ericsson.se (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.74) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:40:51 +0200 Received: from nomadiclab.fi.eu.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.fi.eu.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDD4481255; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:40:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by nomadiclab.fi.eu.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08EC481206; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:40:50 +0300 (EEST) To: Joseph Salowey , References: From: Mohit Sethi Message-ID: <7f678a5d-aa90-70f7-8bb0-ce5e566c9309@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:40:50 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F2C177C54E38BA793BEDBE46" Content-Language: en-US X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7h25J154og+Z1YhbH1q9lsdi2aT+7 A5PHkiU/mTyO79rAHsAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJXRcew5e8E60Yrdj14xNjDuFuhi5OSQEDCR uHh7L2sXIxeHkMARRokvbxoYIZwdjBI/535hBqkSEtjMKDHjvjdEYiGjxN7GLrCEsICzxKcP PWC2CMiol/fYIRoCJG5e+A4WZxPQk+g8dxzM5hWwl2hesYcJxGYRUJVY2TYdrF5UIEKic+V8 FogaQYmTM5+A2ZwCgRJLvy5h62Lk4GAWCJM4fLIKJMwsIC5x68l8JogPlCUWtCxihFirLrG1 4wDjBEahWUgmzULonoWkG8K2kJg5/zwjhC0v0bx1NjOErSHROmcuO7L4Akb2VYyixanFSbnp RkZ6qUWZycXF+Xl6eaklmxiBcXJwy2+DHYwvnzseYhTgYFTi4V3VuidKiDWxrLgy9xCjBAez kgjve43dUUK8KYmVValF+fFFpTmpxYcYpTlYlMR5Lfw2RwkJpCeWpGanphakFsFkmTg4pRoY F63uufRq/Zl5ygYyV/s2mjJuTqx0looU1rNtkP68PY2n22PqhyDxjFn2/5VsOebefvW+Kymi 2uLE51tb/sqlNv9PNFy32oU3qZT/6qz5B2pt4v63s+4v//GwU8Jy5ozvJ/X+uqh9MbCPvnqT 0XOnPNOB7qID9sIvWT8LzlW9MHX2jtkv77J7K7EUZyQaajEXFScCAAO5Q92PAgAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] Call for adoption of draft-mattsson-eap-tls13-02 X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:40:56 -0000 --------------F2C177C54E38BA793BEDBE46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear all, As a co-author, I do think that this work is needed and I would support the adoption of this draft. Thanks to everyone who has already provided comments and feedback on the draft. --Mohit On 03/28/2018 07:51 PM, Joseph Salowey wrote: > At the IETF 101 EMU meeting in London there was good support for > adopting draft-mattsson-eap-tls13-02 as a working group item.  This is > a call for adoption of this draft as a working group item.  If you > have an objection or concern ablout adopting this draft please respond > to the list by April 10, 2018. > > Cheers, > > Joe > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emu mailing list > Emu@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu --------------F2C177C54E38BA793BEDBE46 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Dear all,

As a co-author, I do think that this work is needed and I would support the adoption of this draft.

Thanks to everyone who has already provided comments and feedback on the draft.

--Mohit


On 03/28/2018 07:51 PM, Joseph Salowey wrote:
At the IETF 101 EMU meeting in London there was good support for adopting draft-mattsson-eap-tls13-02 as a working group item.  This is a call for adoption of this draft as a working group item.  If you have an objection or concern ablout adopting this draft please respond to the list by April 10, 2018.  

Cheers,

Joe




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