From nobody Tue Jun 4 07:26:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AFF120077 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 07:26:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=salowey-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bdoMzLXqyfQW for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 07:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk1-x735.google.com (mail-qk1-x735.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::735]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB28412006B for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2019 07:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x735.google.com with SMTP id a27so2930028qkk.5 for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 07:26:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=salowey-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OAAfN07i08nU9ZnyC8V9sEbXgvv6x2V3GDUTerQT2FQ=; b=bS7FCVXi5+va5ukgFPJEM58bDnHp2G6B2vgzXylWguDZyr7UFHeVQgp9aaI17Mr0po b3k++f6urekjQIhxkUD1zfegdEzF9YERqqflPEAQoqLob48D0mDutT812JDnkKhCImA5 QbhKl/p0IJ/aTlqDtjXsH+N8JofkjuhoGI3LHisDAUyb0RRJF3IQeK2JR/evB6Np82NN WAJUeQRcFYR3q8G4S/6MNX2iKKbZMgL7//vdURIYl84UnKKavGzuC3C9e/MwJKFIZsOJ WM7JeXvGuthH1Op10YTsgv9NhK17DHLjyaPKyENYkQEFvRPVqFgmag/PnTJT7wDbgMR7 W0cg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OAAfN07i08nU9ZnyC8V9sEbXgvv6x2V3GDUTerQT2FQ=; b=Sr/835ft2j2PPbyJGQTeUnb+nGnXeCuL3SXSIVEX2FQJZg+kv8B0G4w/CeYQP6W5K5 kle7I6zVZGHQMyKfUkoulR11Vd6qVjk5KYc8bAqAMKtr09KgrBC4KLbXdGo8lKlu428i dxw5imDbezi62QVceI/M2IM7IVfVp0cd43DlktZ38TSDYEHNVp8F34pCE5g4Te6Kj16j Z/FmTtCj0qbYOB6eQnu8p6xfml8mzlsI8CYrbqdn+ImsvDGqhbCbubUuaqLar8W3i//S nRo6MSZW89/D9nSWeEIFgQUIFut2PkmwoopRZStWwED9AltbMss+ogfSXLjfrvckv/CR 154w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV9PTCjQB8wdBNDjKXCys7z9rJTUIX7+t9FNZtZVwrodKjbZVnf LI55+t9u3u/2V5r5x07CePnRLs7/lXEm6IBux22yqIkN/HQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyYNjV9Ptpmg5yJrCFX1DDIBQw6tIrzvgMZx88zaOgdKOCm4DpFTuwgb9tc8tzo02gDA6ky50imdP6697mE3Uo= X-Received: by 2002:a37:72c7:: with SMTP id n190mr8656572qkc.189.1559658374461; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 07:26:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Joseph Salowey Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 07:26:03 -0700 Message-ID: To: emu@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000061a32c058a804307" Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] WGLC for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-05 X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 14:26:18 -0000 --00000000000061a32c058a804307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" This is the working group last call for "Unsing EAP-TLS with TLS 1.3" - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-05. Please review the document and send your comments to the list by June 18, 2019. Thanks, Joe --00000000000061a32c058a804307 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is the working group last call for=C2=A0"Unsing = EAP-TLS with TLS 1.3" -=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-emu-eap-t= ls13-05.=C2=A0 Please review the document and send your comments to the= list by June 18, 2019.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Thanks,
Joe
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emu@ietf.org Message-id: <50c726dd-011d-9c52-6d79-caeb2ee0ef3b@lounge.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-language: en-US Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 X-PMAS-SPF: SPF check skipped for authenticated session (recv=trixy.bergandi.net, send-ip=65.222.135.102) X-PMAS-External-Auth: unknown [65.222.135.102] (EHLO thinny.local) X-PMAS-Software: PreciseMail V3.3 [190605] (trixy.bergandi.net) X-PMAS-Allowed: system rule (rule allow header:X-PMAS-External noexists) Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] teap-brski X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 14:13:15 -0000   Hello,   In a private thread on teap-brski the topic of co-location of the TEAP server and the BRSKI registrar was brought up. It was suggested that the discussion move to these lists to get more input from the experts.   In draft-lear-eap-teap-brski-02 the architecture shows a the TEAP server and the BRSKI registrar as separate while mentioning that they can be co-located. The following assumes they are not co-located.   The BRSKI pledge in this draft is called a "device" and the device establishes a provisional TLS connection (through TEAP) to the TEAP server over 802.1X or something similar. The device does not connect to the registrar. The device then creates a voucher request and sends it to the TEAP server using a newly defined TEAP TLV. The registrar signs the request, forwards it onto a MASA, and sends the voucher it gets back from the MASA to the device using another newly defined TEAP TLV.   So the question is, will this even work? If the TEAP server and BRSKI registrar are separate entities then the voucher will include the TEAP server's EE certificate but it will be signed by the registrar's EE certificate. From my admittedly limited understanding of BRSKI I think the MASA will reject this voucher request because it fails the "proximity" check (if I understand the proximity check correctly). The MASA will treat the registrar as a man-in-the-middle.   BRSKI folks: is this correct? Will a voucher request be rejected from a deployment like this?   EMU folks: if the answer from the BRSKI folks is that this doesn't work then is there any sort of weird tunneling or "phase 2" trickery that can be added to TEAP to get this to work or should we just explicitly state that the TEAP server and the registrar are the same entity (they authenticate with the same certificate)?   Thanks,   Dan. From nobody Thu Jun 6 08:59:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F5F120074 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iZ_cEupDnRae for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 08:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.networkradius.com (mail.networkradius.com [62.210.147.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C92B812014F for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.26] (tro14-1-78-246-129-230.fbx.proxad.net [78.246.129.230]) by mail.networkradius.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 473B535E; Thu, 6 Jun 2019 15:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: NetworkRADIUS; dmarc=none header.from=deployingradius.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) From: Alan DeKok In-Reply-To: <63a3b7d0-e427-5d46-dda2-96ec2573b7b9@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 11:59:14 -0400 Cc: EMU WG Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <82DDCD8A-D280-45E5-9E98-E420A9921678@deployingradius.com> References: <63a3b7d0-e427-5d46-dda2-96ec2573b7b9@ericsson.com> To: Mohit Sethi M X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] Can we get a WG last call for draft-dekok-emu-eap-session-id-00 ? X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 15:59:30 -0000 On Jun 5, 2019, at 3:17 AM, Mohit Sethi M = wrote: >=20 > Chair hat on:=20 >=20 > The draft needs to be formally adopted as a working group item before = moving to last call. It would be nice, but I don't think that's strictly necessary for the = process. The subject is already a WG charter item, so there should be no = issues. > Chair hat off: >=20 > I support the adoption of this draft as a working group item. This is = a charter item and the draft is simple enough to move forward rather = quickly. The code has been updated in the wpa_supplicant and hostapd: > = https://w1.fi/cgit/hostap/commit/?id=3D1c16b257a081e810caf2ca0926ff4f9e2bb= 9557c >=20 > = https://w1.fi/cgit/hostap/commit/?id=3D5eefa8115b884f8ab45ac6521f66dc68f55= 5dcd0 >=20 > John provided a review here: = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emu/fHopSdLqMY37odPGvwn7M5ZksIw >=20 > and Jouni made a comment here: = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emu/MX7P367g4j2c3yuyqch3W-I3u_o >=20 > I have a couple of comments: >=20 > I think it would really help to document the fact that the Session-Id = length for EAP-SIM is different for full authentication and fast = re-authentication. That's because for full authentication, the = Session-Id is: Sure. >=20 >> Session-Id =3D 0x12 || RAND || NONCE_MT > and RFC 4186 says that EAP server should obtain n GSM triplets where n = =3D 2 or n =3D 3. So the length is either: >=20 > 1 (Method-Id) + 32 (RAND*2) +16 (NONCE_MT) =3D 49 or=20 >=20 > 1 (Method-Id) + 48 (RAND*3) + 16 (NONCE_MT) =3D65.=20 >=20 > However, in fast-reauthentication, the Session-Id is: >=20 >=20 >> Session-Id =3D 0x12 || NONCE_S || MAC > So the length is: >=20 > 1 (Method-Id) + 16 (NONCE_S) + 16 (MAC) =3D 33=20 >=20 > I found it surprising while implementing that the Session-Ids were = different in lengths.=20 >=20 > My next question is about Session-Id for PEAP. The draft currently = defines Session-Id for EAP-PEAP as: >=20 >=20 >> Session-Id =3D 0x19 || client.random || server.random). Which is for TLS 1.2 and below. > Do you plan to update this for TLS 1.3 and use TLS-Exporter in your = other draft: draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types? Do we need to do this twice = in separate drafts? draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types already updates the Session-ID for all = TLS-based EAP types, including PEAP. The issues are (a) update missing derivations for TLS <1.2, and (b) = define new derivations for TLS 1.3. So yes, we update PEAP twice. =20 Alan DeKok. From nobody Mon Jun 10 06:52:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7BD12018E for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 06:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HK_NAME_DR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qP3spyn6_0qC for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 06:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.katezarealty.com (mail.katezarealty.com [104.168.158.213]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A0A12009C for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 06:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.katezarealty.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96358374101F for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:52:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at katezarealty.com Received: from mail.katezarealty.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.katezarealty.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id hh65dYlJ0tor for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 09:52:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Maxs-MBP.cablelabs.com (unknown [192.160.73.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.katezarealty.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C85CF3740C5A for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 09:52:49 -0400 (EDT) To: EMU WG From: "Dr. Pala" Message-ID: <75dc0e1f-ed4a-6f9c-1bb4-9ca7cfbaedfd@openca.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 07:52:49 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EEFFCF64429BE4A90386A903" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] EAP-CREDS - Questions for the WG X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:52:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EEFFCF64429BE4A90386A903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, we are working on the definition of an EAP mechanism that should help managing device credentials for access networks. We are finalizing some parts of the document and I would like to get the input from the WG (I know it is not a WG document, yet, but I hope it will get adopted). [*] In particular, I have the following issues that I can solve in different ways and the reasons to adopt one or the other might depend on some practical aspects when implementing EAP methods. Here's the questions: * *EAP-CREDS Headers Format. *Usually EAP methods use the standard EAP header format (Code, Identifier, Length, and Type fields), however (thanks for the suggestions) EAP-CREDS now is required to be used as a tunneled method where the requirement is that the outer method provides the server/client auth and confidentiality. This means that messages are encoded as payloads of (for example) EAP-TLS and, technically, they do not need all those fields anymore. Moreover, we can have the EAP-CREDS to use 32-bits sizes of the messages, therefore we would not need the Length. My question for the group is: shall we keep the same header to provide ease of development (since libraries already know how to handle those headers) even if this might result in wasting few bytes for each message ? * *Fixed-Size TLVs.* In EAP-CREDS we define several TLVs, some of them, it turns out, do not need to be variable length, but they are, de facto, Fixed in size (e.g., it might be just one-byte value). Initially, we thought about omitting the 'TLV Length' field and have developers to "derive" the size of these TLVs by the 'TLV Type' field. For example, if a TLV 'A' is just a 1 byte value, shall we still have the 'TLV Length' (set to '1') or we shall omit the 'TLV Length' for these structures ? * *TLVs Length Size.* In EAP-CREDS we expect the majority of the messages to be relatively small (since we provide the possibility to encapsulate other protocols, that might not be true in that case; For the integrated provisioning protocol, SPP, that is true). However, with the increasing size of keys and crypto-related data structures, the use of a 16-bit length field might not be enough very soon. In order to address that, we currently use an extra 32-bit field for the message length that is used instead of the standard 'Length' field and a 24-bit field for the TLV Length. Does this make sense for everybody ? Shall we use a different approach (e.g., provide a 32-bit field for the TLV Length instead) ? Thanks for the feedback :D Cheers, Max [*] = The version that is currently available in the Datatracker is quite outdated, however, as soon as we finalize some of these aspects we will publish the new version. The GIT repository is available (more updated, but not at the latest version) is available at GitHub (https://github.com/openca/eap-creds) P.S.: I added the EAP-CREDS implementation for the Hackaton, please let me know if you want to participate. I have not organized any hackaton events before, so there might be glitches/issues/etc. because of my inexperience... if anybody would like to help, that would be great! -- Best Regards, Massimiliano Pala, Ph.D. OpenCA Labs Director OpenCA Logo --------------EEFFCF64429BE4A90386A903 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------01CB7C97799B5B6EA02BE467" --------------01CB7C97799B5B6EA02BE467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi all,

we are working on the definition of an EAP mechanism that should help managing device credentials for access networks. We are finalizing some parts of the document and I would like to get the input from the WG (I know it is not a WG document, yet, but I hope it will get adopted). [*]

In particular, I have the following issues that I can solve in different ways and the reasons to adopt one or the other might depend on some practical aspects when implementing EAP methods. Here's the questions:

  • EAP-CREDS Headers Format. Usually EAP methods use the standard EAP header format (Code, Identifier, Length, and Type fields), however (thanks for the suggestions) EAP-CREDS now is required to be used as a tunneled method where the requirement is that the outer method provides the server/client auth and confidentiality. This means that messages are encoded as payloads of (for example) EAP-TLS and, technically, they do not need all those fields anymore. Moreover, we can have the EAP-CREDS to use 32-bits sizes of the messages, therefore we would not need the Length. My question for the group is: shall we keep the same header to provide ease of development (since libraries already know how to handle those headers) even if this might result in wasting few bytes for each message ?

  • Fixed-Size TLVs. In EAP-CREDS we define several TLVs, some of them, it turns out, do not need to be variable length, but they are, de facto, Fixed in size (e.g., it might be just one-byte value). Initially, we thought about omitting the 'TLV Length' field and have developers to "derive" the size of these TLVs by the 'TLV Type' field. For example, if a TLV 'A' is just a 1 byte value, shall we still have the 'TLV Length' (set to '1') or we shall omit the 'TLV Length' for these structures ?

  • TLVs Length Size. In EAP-CREDS we expect the majority of the messages to be relatively small (since we provide the possibility to encapsulate other protocols, that might not be true in that case; For the integrated provisioning protocol, SPP, that is true). However, with the increasing size of keys and crypto-related data structures, the use of a 16-bit length field might not be enough very soon. In order to address that, we currently use an extra 32-bit field for the message length that is used instead of the standard 'Length' field and a 24-bit field for the TLV Length. Does this make sense for everybody ? Shall we use a different approach (e.g., provide a 32-bit field for the TLV Length instead) ?

Thanks for the feedback :D

Cheers,
Max

[*] = The version that is currently available in the Datatracker is quite outdated, however, as soon as we finalize some of these aspects we will publish the new version. The GIT repository is available (more updated, but not at the latest version) is available at GitHub (https://github.com/openca/eap-creds)

P.S.: I added the EAP-CREDS implementation for the Hackaton, please let me know if you want to participate. I have not organized any hackaton events before, so there might be glitches/issues/etc. because of my inexperience... if anybody would like to help, that would be great!

--
Best Regards,
Massimiliano Pala, Ph.D.
OpenCA Labs Director
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by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FC612009C for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 03:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xenon41.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EB7201D8 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 12:20:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by antispam in UMU at xenon41.um.es Received: from xenon41.um.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xenon41.um.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id iITSgjCg5qgH for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 12:20:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.233.193.143] (unknown [130.233.193.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eduardo.ingles) by xenon41.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F25E2005B for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 12:20:12 +0200 (CEST) To: "emu@ietf.org" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Eduardo_Ingl=c3=a9s_UM?= Message-ID: <7eeecb3a-a050-a30c-ea1b-7363221d3dde@um.es> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:20:09 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: es-ES Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] Implementing EAP-NOOB in Contiki - Use of the Realm assigned by the server? X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:20:18 -0000 Hello all, During the IETF 104 Prague I told you that I am implementing EAP-NOOB in Contiki. During the process I have had few issues that I will send in separate emails for clarifications in the coming weeks. I like the way EAP-NOOB allows the server to send a realm that a peer can use later on during its lifetime. I find it useful when peers are roaming in different networks, for example, in the use case that I sent in a previous email. However, reading the specification it is not clear to me when a device should start using the Realm assigned by the server. Should I use it already during Waiting Exchange? Or only after the device has been successfully authenticated in the Completion Exchange? Regards, Eduardo Inglés. From nobody Thu Jun 20 03:23:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFA412002F for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 03:23:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YinV4ickO6lG for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 03:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xenon41.um.es (xenon41.um.es [IPv6:2001:720:1710:601::41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E84B12009C for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 03:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xenon41.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995CB264FA for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 12:23:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by antispam in UMU at xenon41.um.es Received: from xenon41.um.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xenon41.um.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uZNuA7LLBHJy for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 12:23:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.233.193.143] (unknown [130.233.193.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eduardo.ingles) by xenon41.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BDC423B56 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 12:23:10 +0200 (CEST) To: "emu@ietf.org" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Eduardo_Ingl=c3=a9s_UM?= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:23:09 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: es-ES Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] Support of NIST P-256 in EAP-NOOB X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:23:13 -0000 Hi again, I am currently implementing EAP-NOOB on Zolertia Firefly boards (https://zolertia.io/product/firefly/). The board provides hardware acceleration for ECC operations. However, currently the API only supports ECDHE with NIST P-256 and EAP-NOOB draft only mentions the cryptosuite x25519 in Section 4.1. I know that IETF likes the curve x25519, which has been specified through the CFRG process. Besides that, I see that many other platforms only support NIST P-256 in hardware. Thus, I wonder if it would be possible to support NIST P-256 to the draft? In this draft (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lwig-curve-representations-06) I see that perhaps it is possible to use the code NIST P-256 for doing x25519. However, I have no coding expertise in cryptographic encoding to do that. Hence authors, do you want to support another curve? Regards, Eduardo Inglés. 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I would like to confirm that some working group members have reviewed the draft. If you have reviewed the draft please respond to this thread. THanks, Joe --00000000000020b96a058c466dcc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= THanks,

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--00000000000020b96a058c466dcc-- From nobody Thu Jun 27 09:51:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243F3120125 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:51:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOTS_OF_MONEY=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=salowey-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QbwzstvHgtlk for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk1-x736.google.com (mail-qk1-x736.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::736]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A2EC120112 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x736.google.com with SMTP id t8so2332388qkt.1 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:51:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=salowey-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=eq9ciiym0IprEnqi/eJoXeoa9nZEW7qN/gl7mwBR9fQ=; b=hJmNLxNPvMH3bP4tQIaXYYCpxCAbtAnlxK9KFN6IgSZ1xTL1nzHuaMin/nGG4xxCZT aMCFTnacIhvQ++TWGEIXr3NU/lKiZAqU16y/W0jJ/ePUWv0XNlCB8JAENVmKgIKBql7q vR7OJILeJ0jrE/htFuJy8H6a2QJ+NalKZrO4uUoGNK+X+Cx2/GrsEpZu1Zzd4TzBvMgi ZijntyJmybClkoBVnjMcABWuivjD0j9hfXBLK6CuKnvNNx4Nn03pReXTF2UNm0N6oOjB OCLGK7xNVo3wm4Aak1225QTQrd33PPz1rtBPu8sTY7vhRltrJCoEALgHzbq8lX2dVIDh rsYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=eq9ciiym0IprEnqi/eJoXeoa9nZEW7qN/gl7mwBR9fQ=; b=MoeevnefixptLKCB7xqsgvbmDzhjH0S+h0G9LIh4MUlJshYWEHkeKSxu+SmOlxAVvf ybUrax01Y9GkI6NOoiCvk49qY+zG8YmEFegwesxtDTijiNT6/x4EUrGZxUbDIq/1wanQ 195BdrxNx0ws4vrMthE8GZ6Ry0lLUKXfouMTA0HR01yJUtG3/E5T7+MRCQJZvJL7Yz7R zjxAuogL2Yn01eR7h09BI7iFIXskoxMybBTaMyHD98EnVgOCF7zgeqBZRs0d42xR02e/ HBJxDZ4xK5FFYhzEZUUOBB7kWWSrWtS21svlZaJpn9eUxMzVrAOraLlHHWvFQs4QDi8v ljug== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWR7VbKueZhdrfoba2goTo7gyBZBEDD1tVo+bBx73DxPgMH4YBq sdXjNXKhath2yNjUF7zNtVQ1b5gNNRQmqUF8NnoReiDlrDlWFQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxI6bdrH6sU+VzeS58VXjE+gTQIA8xrsGmhtBWkc57xMx3skX1f+4bJn0zHyYUlD6lZI/rwvAdemlgSxw7zc0E= X-Received: by 2002:a37:2d43:: with SMTP id t64mr4169835qkh.472.1561654278296; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:51:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20357.1553893062@dooku.sandelman.ca> <3A358E18-F3C3-40FF-BF87-DEB963549BE8@deployingradius.com> <8549.1553993591@dooku.sandelman.ca> In-Reply-To: From: Joseph Salowey Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:51:06 -0700 Message-ID: To: emu@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000852806058c50f8ea" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP-AKA' and Re: WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:51:22 -0000 --000000000000852806058c50f8ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Significant time has passed and no alternate proposals have surfaced. We need to decide whether to accept this document into the working group or not. It seems that we have support for the view that working on this informational document in the working group is preferable to the independent submission track. Do working group members still have objections to taking this draft into the working group? Please respond on this thread by July 5, 2019. Thanks, Joe On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 4:59 AM Alan DeKok wrote: > On Apr 3, 2019, at 1:37 AM, Joseph Salowey wrote: > > > > Thanks for reviving this thread. I agree this is important work, but we > need to have consensus to bring the item into the working group. I think > the IPR issue is the main sticking point. > > > > I'll note that RFC 5448 has a similar IPR declaration and both documents > are targeted as informational. Some possible ways forward: > > > > 1. Come up with an alternative proposal. Since no one has already > stepped forward I don't think this is realistic. > > 2. Accept the document into the working group. > > 3. Reject the document, which will force the work to go through the > independent submission process, which will probably result in less broad > and thorough review. > > 4. Amendment to the license terms of the IPR - I have received no > indication that this will happen > > > > The document will likely get published in either case 2 or 3 above. I'd > like to work through this discussion over the next few weeks so please > voice your views on this thread. > > Despite my misgivings, I think (2) is necessary here. > > It would be helpful for the IETF as a whole to acknowledge the > importance of Open Source in the IETF process. And, that "RAND" licensing > isn't necessarily RAND when fees are involved. > > e.g. "Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All Implementers with > Possible Royalty/Fee" > > OK, *what* is that fee? A million dollars for a 5G operator / vendor? > How much should an Open Source implementation pay? > > Alan DeKok. > > --000000000000852806058c50f8ea Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Significant time has passed and no alternate proposal= s have surfaced.=C2=A0 We need to decide whether to accept this document in= to the working group or not.=C2=A0 It seems that we have support for the vi= ew that working on this informational document in the working group is pref= erable to the independent submission track.=C2=A0=C2=A0

<= /div>
Do working group members still have objections to taking this dra= ft into the working group?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Please respond on this thread by Jul= y 5, 2019.=C2=A0

Thanks,

= Joe

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 4:59 AM Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:
=
On Apr 3, 2019, at 1:37 A= M, Joseph Salowey <= joe@salowey.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks for reviving this thread.=C2=A0 I agree this is important work,= but we need to have consensus to bring the item into the working group.=C2= =A0 I think the IPR issue is the main sticking point.
>
> I'll note that RFC 5448 has a similar IPR declaration and both doc= uments are targeted as informational.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Some possible ways forwar= d:
>
> 1. Come up with an alternative proposal.=C2=A0 Since no one has alread= y stepped forward I don't think this is realistic.
> 2. Accept the document into the working group.
> 3. Reject the document, which will force the work to go through the in= dependent submission process, which will probably result in less broad and = thorough review.=C2=A0
> 4. Amendment to the license terms of the IPR - I have received no indi= cation that this will happen
>
> The document will likely get published in either case 2 or 3 above.=C2= =A0 I'd like to work through this discussion over the next few weeks so= please voice your views on this thread.=C2=A0

=C2=A0 Despite my misgivings, I think (2) is necessary here.

=C2=A0 It would be helpful for the IETF as a whole to acknowledge the impor= tance of Open Source in the IETF process.=C2=A0 And, that "RAND" = licensing isn't necessarily RAND when fees are involved.

=C2=A0 e.g. "Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All Implemen= ters with Possible Royalty/Fee"

=C2=A0 OK, *what* is that fee?=C2=A0 A million dollars for a 5G operator / = vendor?=C2=A0 How much should an Open Source implementation pay?

=C2=A0 Alan DeKok.

--000000000000852806058c50f8ea-- From nobody Thu Jun 27 10:55:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E54120125 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k9VoshAepq8m for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.networkradius.com (mail.networkradius.com [62.210.147.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4AD8120189 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.46.58] (24-52-251-6.cable.teksavvy.com [24.52.251.6]) by mail.networkradius.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D7A2B79; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: NetworkRADIUS; dmarc=none header.from=deployingradius.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) From: Alan DeKok In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 13:55:29 -0400 Cc: emu@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20357.1553893062@dooku.sandelman.ca> <3A358E18-F3C3-40FF-BF87-DEB963549BE8@deployingradius.com> <8549.1553993591@dooku.sandelman.ca> To: Joseph Salowey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP-AKA' and Re: WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:55:43 -0000 On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Joseph Salowey wrote: >=20 > Significant time has passed and no alternate proposals have surfaced. = We need to decide whether to accept this document into the working group = or not. It seems that we have support for the view that working on this = informational document in the working group is preferable to the = independent submission track. =20 Yes. > Do working group members still have objections to taking this draft = into the working group? Please respond on this thread by July 5, 2019.=20= I have misgivings, but no objections. Alan DeKok. From nobody Fri Jun 28 16:00:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietf.org Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06B412093B; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:57:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: rdd@cert.org, emu@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.98.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <156176267465.11015.2700378771321894536.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:57:54 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] emu - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 105 X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 22:58:05 -0000 Dear Mohit Sethi, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. emu Session 1 (2:00 requested) Wednesday, 24 July 2019, Afternoon Session I 1330-1530 Room Name: Notre Dame size: 50 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/sessions/emu.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: EAP Method Update Area Name: Security Area Session Requester: Mohit Sethi Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: saag tls cfrg lwig Second Priority: curdle uta secdispatch oauth 6lo mls Third Priority: sacm quic kitten bier acme t2trg People who must be present: Eric Rescorla Jari Arkko Joseph A. Salowey Roman Danyliw Alan DeKok John Mattsson Mohit Sethi Resources Requested: Special Requests: If possible, please don't schedule on Monday. --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Sat Jun 29 06:27:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emu@ietf.org Delivered-To: emu@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FA1120071 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2019 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.98.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <156181484620.12905.8910551160637001350.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 06:27:26 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: Subject: [Emu] Milestones changed for emu WG X-BeenThere: emu@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "EAP Methods Update \(EMU\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 13:27:26 -0000 Changed milestone "WG adopts initial draft on guidance for EAP TLS with TLS 1.3", resolved as "Done". Changed milestone "WG adopts initial draft on EAP-AKA update, RFC5448-bis, including definition session identifiers for fast re-authentication for EAP-AKA'", resolved as "Done". URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/emu/about/