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X-BeenThere: entmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Entity MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Hi All, We should decide soon whether or not the Entity MIB WG will meet in San Diego. Thoughts? If we do meet, what are the likely agenda items? Margaret _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib From entmib-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jun 17 16:17:59 2004 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA10748 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bb39F-0004yP-0w; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:06:09 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bb2uz-0000jR-U5 for entmib@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:51:25 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA08990 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bb2uy-0002nw-NZ for entmib@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:51:24 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Bb2u8-0002Vb-00 for entmib@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:50:32 -0400 Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com ([198.152.13.100]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Bb2tK-0002CX-00 for entmib@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:49:42 -0400 Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i5HJhuDq018265 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i5HJhrDq018192 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:43:54 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet? Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:49:38 +0300 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet? Thread-Index: AcRUo1KKf2Ltyq/hQIyI6mTOJJ4ctAAAIkiA From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Margaret Wasserman" , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: entmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Entity MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Margaret, The only possible item I can think about is about the Definitions of = Supplemental Entity Managed Objects draft (you may remember - I am not = crazy about the name). I am sympathetic to this, to the point of = committing to be reviewer. Did we get enough critical mass to do this = work? Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: entmib-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:entmib-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Margaret Wasserman > Sent: 17 June, 2004 10:24 PM > To: entmib@ietf.org > Subject: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi All, >=20 > We should decide soon whether or not the Entity MIB WG will meet in=20 > San Diego. Thoughts? >=20 > If we do meet, what are the likely agenda items? >=20 > Margaret >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Entmib mailing list > Entmib@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib >=20 _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib From entmib-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jun 17 17:37:50 2004 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA17718 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bb4Oe-0004FD-Um; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:26:08 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bb3wo-00056s-Sq for entmib@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:57:23 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA15394 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org ([132.151.6.1] helo=ietf-mx) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bb3wn-0000u0-HF for entmib@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:57:21 -0400 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Bb3vn-0000bH-00 for entmib@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:56:19 -0400 Received: from thumper.research.telcordia.com ([128.96.41.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Bb3ur-0007nm-00 for entmib@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:55:21 -0400 Received: from shannon.research.telcordia.com (shannon [128.96.81.11]) by thumper.research.telcordia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5HKsNcn028822; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kaj-100.research.telcordia.com (kaj-100.cc.telcordia.com [128.96.71.110]) by shannon.research.telcordia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28493; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040617163454.0315e048@128.96.81.11> X-Sender: kaj@128.96.81.11 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:54:22 -0400 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "Margaret Wasserman" , From: Kaj Tesink Subject: RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.2(snapshot 20021217) (thumper) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 X-BeenThere: entmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Entity MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: entmib-bounces@ietf.org At 10:49 PM 6/17/2004 +0300, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >Margaret, > >The only possible item I can think about is about the Definitions of >Supplemental Entity Managed Objects draft (you may remember - I am not >crazy about the name). I am sympathetic to this, to the point of >committing to be reviewer. Did we get enough critical mass to do this work? Dan, thanks for your review offer! My understanding of the status and issues is the following: 1. document title is too vague Can be fixed in several ways; several alternatives were posted; seems fixable. 2. opaque object is cumbersome to implement Dave P. was going to write a URN based proposal; once there's consensus it can easily be inserted 3. acceptance as work item There have been several expressions of support, but not yet formal acceptance as a work item, and related WG charter extension Since the document is small, I'm not sure whether there really needs to be a physical meeting on points 1 and 2. Point 3 is a procedural one that Margaret or Bert may wish to comment on in the context of needing a physical meeting or not. Kaj >Regards, > >Dan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: entmib-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:entmib-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Margaret Wasserman > > Sent: 17 June, 2004 10:24 PM > > To: entmib@ietf.org > > Subject: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet? > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > We should decide soon whether or not the Entity MIB WG will meet in > > San Diego. Thoughts? > > > > If we do meet, what are the likely agenda items? > > > > Margaret > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Entmib mailing list > > Entmib@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib > > > >_______________________________________________ >Entmib mailing list >Entmib@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kaj Tesink Telcordia Technologies. 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