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M. Heard" X-Sender: heard@shell4.bayarea.net To: entmib@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <200410281440.KAA18608@ietf.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Subject: [Entmib] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-entmib-v3-05.txt X-BeenThere: entmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Entity MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: entmib-bounces@ietf.org On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the > Entity MIB Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Entity MIB (Version 3) > Author(s) : K. McCloghrie, A. Bierman > Filename : draft-ietf-entmib-v3-05.txt > Pages : 67 > Date : 2004-10-27 I see that this document has a derivative works limitation on the front page: This document may not be modified, and derivative works of it may not be created, except to publish it as an RFC and to translate it into languages other than English. Surely this is a mistake? //cmh _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib From entmib-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 29 13:36:18 2004 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18061 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:36:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CNaYl-0000LJ-RL; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:29:07 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CNaMR-0002Gf-LC for entmib@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:16:23 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16682 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CNaak-0003mW-DB for entmib@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:31:11 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (171.71.177.254) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2004 10:25:20 -0700 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i9THFQwu011878; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abierman-xp.cisco.com (sjc-vpn5-1096.cisco.com [10.21.92.72]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (MOS 3.4.5-GR) with ESMTP id BAO04620; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20041029101303.02bfdef8@fedex.cisco.com> X-Sender: abierman@fedex.cisco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:15:47 -0700 To: "C. M. Heard" From: Andy Bierman Subject: Re: [Entmib] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-entmib-v3-05.txt In-Reply-To: References: <200410281440.KAA18608@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Cc: entmib@ietf.org X-BeenThere: entmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Entity MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: entmib-bounces@ietf.org At 09:15 AM 10/29/2004, C. M. Heard wrote: >On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line >> Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the >> Entity MIB Working Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : Entity MIB (Version 3) >> Author(s) : K. McCloghrie, A. Bierman >> Filename : draft-ietf-entmib-v3-05.txt >> Pages : 67 >> Date : 2004-10-27 > >I see that this document has a derivative works limitation on the >front page: > > This document may not be modified, and derivative works of it may > not be created, except to publish it as an RFC and to translate it > into languages other than English. > > >Surely this is a mistake? probably. I thought this was supposed to be in an I-D that is intended to be published as an RFC. I don't claim to understand the massive set of new CLRs for I-Ds. :-) >//cmh Andy _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib From entmib-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 29 14:08:33 2004 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA20620 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CNb5h-0001RN-Pf; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:03:09 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CNb2l-0005bT-Op for entmib@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:00:07 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA19803 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com ([192.11.222.163]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CNbH3-0004ge-L7 for entmib@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:14:56 -0400 Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9THxPl3017504 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <4M32MGK8>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:59:25 +0200 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15503C79E62@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: "'Andy Bierman'" , "C. M. Heard" Subject: RE: [Entmib] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-entmib-v3-05.txt Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:59:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Cc: entmib@ietf.org X-BeenThere: entmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Entity MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: entmib-bounces@ietf.org > >I see that this document has a derivative works limitation on the > >front page: > > > > This document may not be modified, and derivative works of it may > > not be created, except to publish it as an RFC and to translate it > > into languages other than English. > > > > > >Surely this is a mistake? > > probably. I thought this was supposed to be in an I-D > that is intended to be published as an RFC. I don't > claim to understand the massive set of new CLRs for I-Ds. :-) > Sorry for the CLRs. But I think you can just remove that one para Bert > > >//cmh > > Andy > > > _______________________________________________ > Entmib mailing list > Entmib@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib > _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib From entmib-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 29 15:46:59 2004 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA29763 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CNcM3-0000Iz-Au; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:24:07 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CNcFM-0007lw-9j for entmib@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:17:12 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA26725 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout1.bayarea.net ([209.128.95.10]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CNcTg-0006Q4-On for entmib@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:32:01 -0400 Received: from shell4.bayarea.net (shell4.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.82.1]) by smtpout1.bayarea.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9TJFTHP008446; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:15:29 -0700 Received: from shell4.bayarea.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell4.bayarea.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9TJFTIG018792; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:15:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (heard@localhost) by shell4.bayarea.net (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id i9TJFTVG018779; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:15:29 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.bayarea.net: heard owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. M. Heard" X-Sender: heard@shell4.bayarea.net To: Andy Bierman Subject: RE: [Entmib] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-entmib-v3-05.txt In-Reply-To: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15503C79E62@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 Cc: entmib@ietf.org X-BeenThere: entmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Entity MIB WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: entmib-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: entmib-bounces@ietf.org On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: >[Andy Bierman wrote:] > >[Mike Heard wrote:] > > >I see that this document has a derivative works limitation on the > > >front page: > > > > > > This document may not be modified, and derivative works of it may > > > not be created, except to publish it as an RFC and to translate it > > > into languages other than English. > > > > > > > > >Surely this is a mistake? > > > > probably. I thought this was supposed to be in an I-D > > that is intended to be published as an RFC. I don't > > claim to understand the massive set of new CLRs for I-Ds. :-) The paragraph I quoted above says (per RFC 3667) that the IETF is not permitted to make future revisions to the spec -- which I'm sure is not what you intended. I have to agree with you that the rules are becoming very difficult to understand. > Sorry for the CLRs. But I think you can just remove that one para > > Bert That sounds right, from what I understand of RFC 3667 and its pending update. //cmh _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib