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Would you like to schedule a virtual interim for this? We also have: * Stephan's new EAI Sieve draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bosch-sieve-eai/ * fetch-preview awaiting another draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview/ * quota having expired and needing to be revived: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-quota/ * I'd like to revive https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid/ since we're writing rules that rely on it in Fastmail's filters now! So there's plenty to do. Cheers, Bron. -- Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd brong@fastmailteam.com --638d6d35b1e4410195c6f0b0e295eecc Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, at 02:39, Alexey Melnikov wrote= :

I cleaned this up and = there are only 2 smaller items remaining, that we might want to discuss in the WG.


Would you like to schedule a virtual interim for this?  We also ha= ve:

* quota having expired and needing to be r= evived: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-quota/
* I'd like to revive https://d= atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid/ since we're = writing rules that rely on it in Fastmail's filters now!

= So there's plenty to do.

=
Cheers,

Bron.
=

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  Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd
<= /div>
  brong@fastmailteam.com


--638d6d35b1e4410195c6f0b0e295eecc-- From nobody Fri Apr 3 06:01:34 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: extra@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: extra@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9522C3A1791 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 06:01:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isode.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jB1C3L3wR5Ip for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statler.isode.com (Statler.isode.com [62.232.206.189]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1F73A089D for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1585918881; d=isode.com; s=june2016; i=@isode.com; bh=qTtbAhfGCGkMeDDt5mI2w8pnTSifpTHYESCMCFLH0rs=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=sTjB3zsyhXon98kGEX4Ic2YCEAUi1Cc+grcgJBElb2422iqnhfm6VWEUMQHcF9ChUYKMiH 4Ysbls32g+Ql0ifS8QeuVVdybR6NT5xaj9d/4ckkM5YS0wKBonjKYTAwoGfno/HVaCJM9G lSO4235N4EBavdYirREK6tLChOhiXac=; Received: from [172.27.252.111] (connect.isode.net [172.20.0.72]) by statler.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:01:21 +0100 To: Bron Gondwana , extra@ietf.org Cc: Barry Leiba References: <9fdfa8e8-147d-4248-a0c1-48de171ac675@dogfood.fastmail.com> <583cf32a-4a68-4fe4-b4a4-e591fb381d7e@dogfood.fastmail.com> From: Alexey Melnikov Message-ID: <46bbc18a-76cd-f20d-3318-8afa29749cec@isode.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:00:22 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 In-Reply-To: <583cf32a-4a68-4fe4-b4a4-e591fb381d7e@dogfood.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3FCC2CDEB91F3DFF4120A5AC" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Extra] Review: draft-ietf-extra-imap4rev2-11 X-BeenThere: extra@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email mailstore and eXtensions To Revise or Amend List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 13:01:29 -0000 --------------3FCC2CDEB91F3DFF4120A5AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bron, On 03/04/2020 13:22, Bron Gondwana wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, at 02:39, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >> >> I cleaned this up and there are only 2 smaller items remaining, that=20 >> we might want to discuss in the WG. >> > > Would you like to schedule a virtual interim for this?=C2=A0 We also have: Yes, I think it would be a good idea. Shall we do this in early May? > * Stephan's new EAI Sieve draft:=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bosch-sieve-eai/ > * fetch-preview awaiting another draft:=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview/ > * quota having expired and needing to be revived:=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-quota/ > * I'd like to revive=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid/ since=20 > we're writing rules that rely on it in Fastmail's filters now! > > So there's plenty to do. Indeed. Best Regards, Alexey --------------3FCC2CDEB91F3DFF4120A5AC Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Bron,

On 03/04/2020 13:22, Bron Gondwana wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, at 02:39, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

I cleaned this up and there are only 2 smaller items remaining, that we might want to discuss in the WG.


Would you like to schedule a virtual interim for this?=C2=A0 We also have:

Yes, I think it would be a good idea. Shall we do this in early May?

* quota having expired and needing to be revived: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ie= tf-extra-quota/
* I'd like to revive https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-go= ndwana-sieve-mailboxid/ since we're writing rules that rely on it in Fastmail's filters now!

So there's plenty to do.
Indeed.

Best Regards,

Alexey

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On 4/3/20 9:00 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > > Hi Bron, > > On 03/04/2020 13:22, Bron Gondwana wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, at 02:39, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >>> >>> I cleaned this up and there are only 2 smaller items remaining, that >>> we might want to discuss in the WG. >>> >> >> Would you like to schedule a virtual interim for this?  We also have: > > Yes, I think it would be a good idea. Shall we do this in early May? > >> * Stephan's new EAI Sieve draft: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bosch-sieve-eai/ >> * fetch-preview awaiting another draft: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview/ >> * quota having expired and needing to be revived: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-quota/ >> * I'd like to revive >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid/ >> since we're writing rules that rely on it in Fastmail's filters now! >> >> So there's plenty to do. > Indeed. > > Best Regards, > > Alexey > > > _______________________________________________ > Extra mailing list > Extra@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/extra -- Ken Murchison Cyrus Development Team Fastmail US LLC --------------16AF48565DAEC6CCAF9B53B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I also have a partially written draft for snoozing an email via Sieve which we have implemented at Fastmail.  I could finish it up before an interim and discuss adopting it as a WG document.


On 4/3/20 9:00 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

Hi Bron,

On 03/04/2020 13:22, Bron Gondwana wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, at 02:39, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

I cleaned this up and there are only 2 smaller items remaining, that we might want to discuss in the WG.


Would you like to schedule a virtual interim for this?  We also have:

Yes, I think it would be a good idea. Shall we do this in early May?

* quota having expired and needing to be revived: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-extra-quota/
* I'd like to revive https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gondwana-sieve-mailboxid/ since we're writing rules that rely on it in Fastmail's filters now!

So there's plenty to do.
Indeed.

Best Regards,

Alexey


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My question is, should implementations strip any trailing CRLF from the header value, or reject the script as invalid because the header value (with the trailing CRLF) isn't a valid "unstructured" element per Section 4 of RFC 5293? -- Ken Murchison Cyrus Development Team Fastmail US LLC --------------220F297C7718ABA0E9DCBF85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

All,

Had an interesting Sieve failure recently.  A user had an addheader action similar to this:

addheader "X-Foo" text:
bar
.
;


My implementation simply (mistakenly?) took the value string as-is and appended CRLF when inserting it into the message.  This obviously breaks the message because

"The CRLF before the final period is considered part of the value."

per Section 2.4.2 of RFC 5228, which when followed by the CRLF that I add results in a blank line between the X-Foo header and any subsequent header.

My question is, should implementations strip any trailing CRLF from the header value, or reject the script as invalid because the header value (with the trailing CRLF) isn't a valid "unstructured" element per Section 4 of RFC 5293?

-- 
Ken Murchison
Cyrus Development Team
Fastmail US LLC
--------------220F297C7718ABA0E9DCBF85-- From nobody Wed Apr 8 13:55:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: extra@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: extra@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609FD3A1738 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:55:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=mrochek.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y9sh53Zf18OW for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [98.153.82.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B4183A16EA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01RJGT9NAZCG005WAN@mauve.mrochek.com> for extra@ietf.org; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:50:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mrochek.com; s=201712; t=1586379035; bh=0OXPZ6Z749ApZL8yHN/yiznaCMsspBowLTBSr4Nhhvc=; h=Cc:Date:From:Subject:In-reply-to:References:To:From; b=KvqJyC1tXYpLsnFtGjo85oN/ihADdU2DTgZ8NhFRaTcH441q7meAVyRO0CgAD6yND f91iPMch1HfaQmYtCBJUREcoUPfsvvqJd8s5OMeAayEuTm7kx3N2zDDy/Fc+e5ih5N KVrw3x9hUz7nb7uVBiz8IdTFb/lgaqTJBCAkwv/I= MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01RIHLDFQH34000058@mauve.mrochek.com>; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: extra@ietf.org Message-id: <01RJGT9LNVQA000058@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 13:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed In-reply-to: "Your message dated Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:21:27 -0400" <5934b654-b045-d630-e34e-d52dbe469e20@fastmail.com> References: <5934b654-b045-d630-e34e-d52dbe469e20@fastmail.com> To: Ken Murchison Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Extra] Sieve addheader X-BeenThere: extra@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email mailstore and eXtensions To Revise or Amend List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 20:55:41 -0000 > All, > Had an interesting Sieve failure recently.  A user had an addheader > action similar to this: > addheader "X-Foo" text: > bar > .. > ; > My implementation simply (mistakenly?) took the value string as-is and > appended CRLF when inserting it into the message.  This obviously breaks > the message because > "The CRLF before the final period is considered part of the value." > per Section 2.4.2 of RFC 5228, which when followed by the CRLF that I > add results in a blank line between the X-Foo header and any subsequent > header. > My question is, should implementations strip any trailing CRLF from the > header value, or reject the script as invalid because the header value > (with the trailing CRLF) isn't a valid "unstructured" element per > Section 4 of RFC 5293? I think either behavior can be justified given what the RFC says, but FWIW we replace CRLFs with spacess. (We originally just removed them, but found the result to be suboptimal with some scripts.) There's also the question of UTF-8 -> encoded words, which is tricky because you have to know the syntax to do it correctly for structured fields. Ned