From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Sat Aug 04 14:46:33 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IHOe1-0000Ws-Q5; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:46:33 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IHOe1-0000Wn-8G for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:46:33 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IHOe0-00056a-Q6 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:46:33 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 7980187; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:46:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <38c19b540707181221y5fd73581u68dcbb76eb41df35@mail.gmail.com> References: <38c19b540707181203j21e0610co9b2562f97759cc40@mail.gmail.com> <241bc2150707181210s6de8dbbet12342da6cf8d27b3@mail.gmail.com> <38c19b540707181221y5fd73581u68dcbb76eb41df35@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8408DC86-E087-427D-9D42-02C354DB4676@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 14:46:30 -0400 To: Greg Shepherd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f66b12316365a3fe519e75911daf28a8 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Hello; I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date for this meeting. I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days. What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? Or the week of the 17th ? The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can get a room for it. Regards Marshall On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since this will > require more effort than just "running into" each other at the IETF we > should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working meeting with an > agenda. > > Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to > completion. ;-) > > So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home base > and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something > logistically painless as possible. > > Thanks, > Greg > > > On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good >> idea to >> plan an f2f between the meetings. >> >> -Ulas >> >> >> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson wrote: >> > Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should plan an f2f >> between >> > this and the next meeting. >> > >> > ...Mark >> > >> > >> > On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But I do >> think >> > > the protocol team members should me at least to get some face >> time on >> > > who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me first >> admit >> > > that I'm not setting a good example. :p >> > > >> > > Who is planning on being there and on what days? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Greg >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >> > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >> > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 10 10:59:00 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJVx6-0007Ch-7D; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:59:00 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJVx5-0007Cc-7U for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:58:59 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJVx4-0005TN-KE for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:58:59 -0400 Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Aug 2007 07:58:58 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.19,245,1183359600"; d="scan'208"; a="512368763:sNHT53890794" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l7AEwv7f014663; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:58:57 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l7AEwUFI016337; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:58:57 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:58:44 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:58:43 -0700 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404EF2952@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8408DC86-E087-427D-9D42-02C354DB4676@multicasttech.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago Thread-Index: AcfWx83EhX4PBi7ZQk6mxAYlQVyCKgEloUAg References: <38c19b540707181203j21e0610co9b2562f97759cc40@mail.gmail.com><241bc2150707181210s6de8dbbet12342da6cf8d27b3@mail.gmail.com><38c19b540707181221y5fd73581u68dcbb76eb41df35@mail.gmail.com> <8408DC86-E087-427D-9D42-02C354DB4676@multicasttech.com> From: "Ali Begen \(abegen\)" To: "Marshall Eubanks" , "Greg Shepherd" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2007 14:58:44.0558 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2854EE0:01C7DB5E] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=3328; t=1186757937; x=1187621937; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim2002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20Begen=20\(abegen\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[FECFRAME-PROTO]=20Chicago |Sender:=20; bh=+K/6M+/ft+k0UFz68dZGlDTfn1+XVhh8ipDy/irhdqM=; b=KuDMTVCfdfWk8FjWsjdLHNRfA5YxHv2J4+qbKJS/tqY/HuFjQAYe2fLiemE3L8PWaTf/h+N6 cuprF+z6nh48SFHml+APKWTloN3abvOKAzeXQ990HcnpuuAtJe06AIHL; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3a4bc66230659131057bb68ed51598f8 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org I am available for both days.=20 Greg, Are we getting ready for a meeting? Best, -Ali =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com]=20 > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM > To: Greg Shepherd > Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago >=20 > Hello; >=20 > I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic=20 > Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices=20 > in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from=20 > Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date=20 > for this meeting. >=20 > I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days. >=20 > What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? >=20 > Or the week of the 17th ? >=20 > The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can=20 > get a room for it. >=20 > Regards > Marshall >=20 >=20 > On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: >=20 > > Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since=20 > this will=20 > > require more effort than just "running into" each other at=20 > the IETF we=20 > > should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working=20 > meeting with an=20 > > agenda. > > > > Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to=20 > completion.=20 > > ;-) > > > > So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home base=20 > > and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something=20 > > logistically painless as possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > > > > On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat wrote: > >> > >> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good=20 > >> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings. > >> > >> -Ulas > >> > >> > >> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson wrote: > >> > Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should=20 > plan an f2f > >> between > >> > this and the next meeting. > >> > > >> > ...Mark > >> > > >> > > >> > On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But I do > >> think > >> > > the protocol team members should me at least to get some face > >> time on > >> > > who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me first > >> admit > >> > > that I'm not setting a good example. :p > >> > > > >> > > Who is planning on being there and on what days? > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > >> > > Greg > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > >> > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > >> > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > >> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > >> > > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >=20 _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 10 11:07:17 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJW57-0006NK-2I; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:07:17 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJW56-0006NF-5e for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:07:16 -0400 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.190]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJW54-0007pv-DD for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:07:16 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f1so626795rvb for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rWQ3ROjyyXbewKwlC8Trso/x10Vc7WKszTpvj3ZNHvKgEGQaOQcFGf4MXGmt5EhQ+ZkTqDJ0Q19yvEpbtlgNjYc66eVR2d4Oggf5ozpkmMV0TaTmQEkWG9BIHYQl6D1Ez10x68jwxZ5+x4OtNGRGolCcoVvdoeA565bM1Cxxdmg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=C8g8rRn9bEpX9ga2YCQZejQ9i9fD4Fi3XUfHh7P/rkTrzGUq532vT0UesDKqIpznLrb7x0JKMk3GCPlebdDs6R0bKbMz8696d3iuXWDa+uTcU3cThRWDEju9p7q+YxWvDYBB9zeRMSYa7GyPdTGZ38bvjKqGvbjRDK4YhUucVI0= Received: by 10.114.60.19 with SMTP id i19mr2641852waa.1186758431395; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.132.14 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540708100807r2534ddfq8ec1c4293c3a15a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:07:11 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: "Ali Begen (abegen)" Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago In-Reply-To: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404EF2952@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38c19b540707181203j21e0610co9b2562f97759cc40@mail.gmail.com> <241bc2150707181210s6de8dbbet12342da6cf8d27b3@mail.gmail.com> <38c19b540707181221y5fd73581u68dcbb76eb41df35@mail.gmail.com> <8408DC86-E087-427D-9D42-02C354DB4676@multicasttech.com> <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404EF2952@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 848ed35f2a4fc0638fa89629cb640f48 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0308308585==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org --===============0308308585== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_160368_26350349.1186758431360" ------=_Part_160368_26350349.1186758431360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 8/10/07, Ali Begen (abegen) wrote: > > I am available for both days. Sorry, Marshall.. which month? Are you suggesting Sept 17th? Greg, > > Are we getting ready for a meeting? Yes. We're trying to plan for a proto-team meeting. Leading up to that it would help to have the FEC draft/rfc rossetta stone - a list of relevent drafts or RFC from which the FEC-frame protocol may be extended. Thanks, Greg Best, > -Ali > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com] > > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM > > To: Greg Shepherd > > Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago > > > > Hello; > > > > I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic > > Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices > > in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from > > Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date > > for this meeting. > > > > I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days. > > > > What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? > > > > Or the week of the 17th ? > > > > The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can > > get a room for it. > > > > Regards > > Marshall > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > > > > Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since > > this will > > > require more effort than just "running into" each other at > > the IETF we > > > should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working > > meeting with an > > > agenda. > > > > > > Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to > > completion. > > > ;-) > > > > > > So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home base > > > and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something > > > logistically painless as possible. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat wrote: > > >> > > >> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good > > >> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings. > > >> > > >> -Ulas > > >> > > >> > > >> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson wrote: > > >> > Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should > > plan an f2f > > >> between > > >> > this and the next meeting. > > >> > > > >> > ...Mark > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But I do > > >> think > > >> > > the protocol team members should me at least to get some face > > >> time on > > >> > > who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me first > > >> admit > > >> > > that I'm not setting a good example. :p > > >> > > > > >> > > Who is planning on being there and on what days? > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks, > > >> > > Greg > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > >> > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > >> > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > >> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > > ------=_Part_160368_26350349.1186758431360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 8/10/07, Ali Begen (abegen) <abegen@cisco.com> wrote:
I am available for both days.

Sorry, Marshall.. which month? Are you suggesting Sept 17th?
 

Greg,

Are we getting ready for a meeting?

Yes.  We're  trying to plan for a proto-team meeting. Leading up to that it would help to have the FEC draft/rfc rossetta stone - a list of relevent drafts or RFC from which the FEC-frame protocol may be extended.

Thanks,
Greg

Best,
-Ali



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM
> To: Greg Shepherd
> Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago
>
> Hello;
>
> I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic
> Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices
> in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from
> Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date
> for this meeting.
>
> I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days.
>
> What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ?
>
> Or the week of the 17th ?
>
> The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can
> get a room for it.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote:
>
> > Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since
> this will
> > require more effort than just "running into" each other at
> the IETF we
> > should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working
> meeting with an
> > agenda.
> >
> > Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to
> completion.
> > ;-)
> >
> > So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home base
> > and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something
> > logistically painless as possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat <ulas.kozat@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good
> >> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings.
> >>
> >> -Ulas
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson < mark@digitalfountain.com> wrote:
> >> > Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should
> plan an f2f
> >> between
> >> > this and the next meeting.
> >> >
> >> > ...Mark
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But I do
> >> think
> >> > > the protocol team members should me at least to get some face
> >> time on
> >> > > who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me first
> >> admit
> >> > > that I'm not setting a good example. :p
> >> > >
> >> > > Who is planning on being there and on what days?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Greg
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
> >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
> >> > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
> >> > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
> >> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
> > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
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------=_Part_160368_26350349.1186758431360-- --===============0308308585== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============0308308585==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 10 11:47:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJWi2-0006AE-VC; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:47:30 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJWi1-0006A8-TC for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:47:29 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJWi1-0006eI-DW for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:47:29 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8000724; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:47:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404EF2952@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> References: <38c19b540707181203j21e0610co9b2562f97759cc40@mail.gmail.com><241bc2150707181210s6de8dbbet12342da6cf8d27b3@mail.gmail.com><38c19b540707181221y5fd73581u68dcbb76eb41df35@mail.gmail.com> <8408DC86-E087-427D-9D42-02C354DB4676@multicasttech.com> <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404EF2952@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <34405EC7-1C1F-4990-9671-7722315F5019@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:47:22 -0400 To: "Ali Begen \(abegen\)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8fbbaa16f9fd29df280814cb95ae2290 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org I am sorry, but having heard nothing, I took an engagement on the week of the 3rd. Can we get a critical mass (Mark, Greg) on the week of the 17th. Which days ? Regards Marshall On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Ali Begen ((abegen)) wrote: > I am available for both days. > > Greg, > > Are we getting ready for a meeting? > > Best, > -Ali > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com] >> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM >> To: Greg Shepherd >> Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago >> >> Hello; >> >> I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic >> Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices >> in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from >> Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date >> for this meeting. >> >> I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days. >> >> What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? >> >> Or the week of the 17th ? >> >> The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can >> get a room for it. >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> >> On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: >> >>> Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since >> this will >>> require more effort than just "running into" each other at >> the IETF we >>> should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working >> meeting with an >>> agenda. >>> >>> Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to >> completion. >>> ;-) >>> >>> So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home base >>> and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something >>> logistically painless as possible. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat wrote: >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good >>>> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings. >>>> >>>> -Ulas >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson wrote: >>>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should >> plan an f2f >>>> between >>>>> this and the next meeting. >>>>> >>>>> ...Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But I do >>>> think >>>>>> the protocol team members should me at least to get some face >>>> time on >>>>>> who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me first >>>> admit >>>>>> that I'm not setting a good example. :p >>>>>> >>>>>> Who is planning on being there and on what days? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Greg >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >> _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 10 11:48:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJWj4-0007FC-VA; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:48:34 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJWiz-0007BR-QF for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:48:30 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJWiz-0006gY-An for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:48:29 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8000737; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:48:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <38c19b540708100807r2534ddfq8ec1c4293c3a15a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <38c19b540707181203j21e0610co9b2562f97759cc40@mail.gmail.com> <241bc2150707181210s6de8dbbet12342da6cf8d27b3@mail.gmail.com> <38c19b540707181221y5fd73581u68dcbb76eb41df35@mail.gmail.com> <8408DC86-E087-427D-9D42-02C354DB4676@multicasttech.com> <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404EF2952@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> <38c19b540708100807r2534ddfq8ec1c4293c3a15a0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8F020EC2-28D2-4EBB-9959-727A5155C8F8@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:48:19 -0400 To: "Greg Shepherd" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0ff9c467ad7f19c2a6d058acd7faaec8 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org On Aug 10, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > > On 8/10/07, Ali Begen (abegen) wrote: I am > available for both days. > > Sorry, Marshall.. which month? Are you suggesting Sept 17th? Yes. or that week at least. > > > Greg, > > Are we getting ready for a meeting? > > Yes. We're trying to plan for a proto-team meeting. Leading up to > that it would help to have the FEC draft/rfc rossetta stone - a > list of relevent drafts or RFC from which the FEC-frame protocol > may be extended. > > Thanks, > Greg > > Best, > -Ali > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com] > > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM > > To: Greg Shepherd > > Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago > > > > Hello; > > > > I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic > > Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices > > in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from > > Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date > > for this meeting. > > > > I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days. > > > > What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? > > > > Or the week of the 17th ? > > > > The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can > > get a room for it. > > > > Regards > > Marshall > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > > > > Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since > > this will > > > require more effort than just "running into" each other at > > the IETF we > > > should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working > > meeting with an > > > agenda. > > > > > > Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to > > completion. > > > ;-) > > > > > > So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home > base > > > and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something > > > logistically painless as possible. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat wrote: > > >> > > >> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good > > >> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings. > > >> > > >> -Ulas > > >> > > >> > > >> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson < mark@digitalfountain.com> wrote: > > >> > Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should > > plan an f2f > > >> between > > >> > this and the next meeting. > > >> > > > >> > ...Mark > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But > I do > > >> think > > >> > > the protocol team members should me at least to get some face > > >> time on > > >> > > who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me > first > > >> admit > > >> > > that I'm not setting a good example. :p > > >> > > > > >> > > Who is planning on being there and on what days? > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks, > > >> > > Greg > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > >> > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > >> > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > >> > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > >> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > > _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 10 13:02:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJXsN-000342-6N; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:02:15 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJXsM-00033w-5J for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:02:14 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJXsK-0001x7-3u for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:02:14 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so1670362uge for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:02:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FVZhyaQ62lZJgooi3Sm0gi4KEgwOe/6IPoXoiLpq8XpUFL2GtjqvSipdlV9mdEMoB8FYc8xHGtpIZvDwf22TyBD89AmwV82gmTsMkjhMGn08bNE9b688kj/ERAPIw8lsOl/XzQ9XUr8rdF1lXFPKxlV7/dxD3U7QlQaWTKFRugc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NcVXonyM0iIZSeR+psXtx9Gmo5Ls2ctnUXwPY1469Ng4KpOCLNg4yyh7yIjoJARP/rpB6C3qnoBGCjjwel0MSNUGnULsv3girk1eb3qBL5YpsrW+grDCZz7Mn7iQFB9nu8502JkSTA6VpigV09JqEysNGU/yJzPunNZPh7kYM1g= Received: by 10.142.79.15 with SMTP id c15mr565166wfb.1186765329160; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.254.18 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <241bc2150708101002x75e085b6v39d74434fc435a57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:02:09 -0700 From: "Ulas Kozat" To: "Marshall Eubanks" Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago In-Reply-To: <34405EC7-1C1F-4990-9671-7722315F5019@multicasttech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38c19b540707181203j21e0610co9b2562f97759cc40@mail.gmail.com> <241bc2150707181210s6de8dbbet12342da6cf8d27b3@mail.gmail.com> <38c19b540707181221y5fd73581u68dcbb76eb41df35@mail.gmail.com> <8408DC86-E087-427D-9D42-02C354DB4676@multicasttech.com> <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404EF2952@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> <34405EC7-1C1F-4990-9671-7722315F5019@multicasttech.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e8c5db863102a3ada84e0cd52a81a79e Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1557489693==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org --===============1557489693== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30642_28894502.1186765329093" ------=_Part_30642_28894502.1186765329093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I might be joining as well if it is in the week of 17th. Regards, Ulas On 8/10/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > I am sorry, but having heard nothing, I took an engagement on the > week of the 3rd. > > Can we get a critical mass (Mark, Greg) on the week of the 17th. > Which days ? > > Regards > Marshall > > > On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Ali Begen ((abegen)) wrote: > > > I am available for both days. > > > > Greg, > > > > Are we getting ready for a meeting? > > > > Best, > > -Ali > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com] > >> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM > >> To: Greg Shepherd > >> Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago > >> > >> Hello; > >> > >> I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic > >> Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices > >> in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from > >> Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date > >> for this meeting. > >> > >> I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days. > >> > >> What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? > >> > >> Or the week of the 17th ? > >> > >> The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can > >> get a room for it. > >> > >> Regards > >> Marshall > >> > >> > >> On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > >> > >>> Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since > >> this will > >>> require more effort than just "running into" each other at > >> the IETF we > >>> should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working > >> meeting with an > >>> agenda. > >>> > >>> Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to > >> completion. > >>> ;-) > >>> > >>> So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home base > >>> and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something > >>> logistically painless as possible. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Greg > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good > >>>> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings. > >>>> > >>>> -Ulas > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson wrote: > >>>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should > >> plan an f2f > >>>> between > >>>>> this and the next meeting. > >>>>> > >>>>> ...Mark > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But I do > >>>> think > >>>>>> the protocol team members should me at least to get some face > >>>> time on > >>>>>> who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me first > >>>> admit > >>>>>> that I'm not setting a good example. :p > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Who is planning on being there and on what days? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Greg > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > >>>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > >>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > >>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > >>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > >> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > ------=_Part_30642_28894502.1186765329093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I might be joining as well if it is in the week of 17th.

Regards,

Ulas

On 8/10/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:
I am sorry, but having heard nothing, I took an engagement on the
week of the 3rd.

Can we get a critical mass (Mark, Greg) on the week of the 17th.
Which days ?

Regards
Marshall


On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Ali Begen ((abegen)) wrote:

> I am available for both days.
>
> Greg,
>
> Are we getting ready for a meeting?
>
> Best,
> -Ali
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto: tme@multicasttech.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM
>> To: Greg Shepherd
>> Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago
>>
>> Hello;
>>
>> I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic
>> Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices
>> in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from
>> Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date
>> for this meeting.
>>
>> I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days.
>>
>> What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ?
>>
>> Or the week of the 17th ?
>>
>> The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can
>> get a room for it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since
>> this will
>>> require more effort than just "running into" each other at
>> the IETF we
>>> should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working
>> meeting with an
>>> agenda.
>>>
>>> Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to
>> completion.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home base
>>> and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something
>>> logistically painless as possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat < ulas.kozat@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good
>>>> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings.
>>>>
>>>> -Ulas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson <mark@digitalfountain.com> wrote:
>>>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should
>> plan an f2f
>>>> between
>>>>> this and the next meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But I do
>>>> think
>>>>>> the protocol team members should me at least to get some face
>>>> time on
>>>>>> who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me first
>>>> admit
>>>>>> that I'm not setting a good example. :p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is planning on being there and on what days?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
>>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
>>>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
>>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
>>


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------=_Part_30642_28894502.1186765329093-- --===============1557489693== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============1557489693==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 10 17:26:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJbzu-0006IB-12; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:26:18 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJbzt-0006Ej-D4 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:26:17 -0400 Received: from exbe04.ex.dslextreme.net ([66.51.199.86] helo=EXVS01.ex.dslextreme.net) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJbzr-0008Cs-Nv for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:26:17 -0400 Received: from 76.222.192.62 ([76.222.192.62]) by EXVS01.ex.dslextreme.net ([192.168.7.220]) via Exchange Front-End Server owa.dslextreme.net ([192.168.7.126]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:27:09 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.6.070618 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:26:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago From: Mark Watson To: Ulas Kozat , Marshall Eubanks Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago Thread-Index: AcfbcFfqtaH8goaKQD+OnRdNO5NtWAAJLeU1 In-Reply-To: <241bc2150708101002x75e085b6v39d74434fc435a57@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 4.4 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: 441f623df000f14368137198649cb083 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1430428791==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --===============1430428791== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3269600766_10684870" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3269600766_10684870 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The week of the 17th is fine. We do have a bit of a critical mass here in the Bay Area, so I wonder if there is anyone who would be able to host the meeting here (for my part, our conference room facilities are already pretty oversubscribed, so it might be difficult). ...Mark On 8/10/07 10:02 AM, "Ulas Kozat" wrote: > I might be joining as well if it is in the week of 17th. > > Regards, > > Ulas > > On 8/10/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com > > wrote: >> I am sorry, but having heard nothing, I took an engagement on the >> week of the 3rd. >> >> Can we get a critical mass (Mark, Greg) on the week of the 17th. >> Which days ? >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> >> On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Ali Begen ((abegen)) wrote: >> >>> > I am available for both days. >>> > >>> > Greg, >>> > >>> > Are we getting ready for a meeting? >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > -Ali >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto: tme@multicasttech.com >>>> ] >>>> >> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM >>>> >> To: Greg Shepherd >>>> >> Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org >>>> >> Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago >>>> >> >>>> >> Hello; >>>> >> >>>> >> I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic >>>> >> Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices >>>> >> in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from >>>> >> Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date >>>> >> for this meeting. >>>> >> >>>> >> I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days. >>>> >> >>>> >> What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? >>>> >> >>>> >> Or the week of the 17th ? >>>> >> >>>> >> The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can >>>> >> get a room for it. >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards >>>> >> Marshall >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: >>>> >> >>>>> >>> Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since >>>> >> this will >>>>> >>> require more effort than just "running into" each other at >>>> >> the IETF we >>>>> >>> should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working >>>> >> meeting with an >>>>> >>> agenda. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to >>>> >> completion. >>>>> >>> ;-) >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home base >>>>> >>> and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something >>>>> >>> logistically painless as possible. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Thanks, >>>>> >>> Greg >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat < ulas.kozat@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a good >>>>>> >>>> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> -Ulas >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should >>>> >> plan an f2f >>>>>> >>>> between >>>>>>> >>>>> this and the next meeting. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> ...Mark >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But I do >>>>>> >>>> think >>>>>>>> >>>>>> the protocol team members should me at least to get some face >>>>>> >>>> time on >>>>>>>> >>>>>> who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me first >>>>>> >>>> admit >>>>>>>> >>>>>> that I'm not setting a good example. :p >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Who is planning on being there and on what days? >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Greg >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>>>>>> >>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>>>> >>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>>>> >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>>> >> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>>> >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >> > > > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --B_3269600766_10684870 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago The w= eek of the 17th is fine. We do have a bit of a critical mass here in the Bay= Area, so I wonder if there is anyone who would be able to host the meeting = here (for my part, our conference room facilities are already pretty oversub= scribed, so it might be difficult).

...Mark




On 8/10/07 10:02 AM, "Ulas Kozat" <ulas.kozat@gmail.com> wr= ote:

I might be joining as well if it is in the week of 17th= .

Regards,

Ulas

On 8/10/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com <mailto:tme@multicasttech.com> > wro= te:
I am sorry, but having heard nothing, I took an engagem= ent on the
week of the 3rd.

Can we get a critical mass (Mark, Greg) on the week of the 17th.
Which days ?

Regards
Marshall


On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Ali Begen ((abegen)) wrote:

> I am available for both days.
>
> Greg,
>
> Are we getting ready for a meeting?
>
> Best,
> -Ali
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto: tme@multicasttech.com <mailto:t= me@multicasttech.com> ]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM
>> To: Greg Shepherd
>> Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago
>>
>> Hello;
>>
>> I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic
>> Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices
>> in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from
>> Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date
>> for this meeting.
>>
>> I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days.
>>
>> What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? =
>>
>> Or the week of the 17th ?
>>
>> The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can
>> get a room for it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since >> this will
>>> require more effort than just "running into" each ot= her at
>> the IETF we
>>> should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working
>> meeting with an
>>> agenda.
>>>
>>> Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to
>> completion.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> So, please chime in as to where each of your are located (home= base
>>> and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something =
>>> logistically painless as possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat < ulas.kozat@gmail.com <mailto:ulas.kozat@gmail.com> > wrote:=
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is= a good
>>>> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings.
>>>>
>>>> -Ulas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson <mark@digitalfountain.com> w= rote:
>>>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we shoul= d
>> plan an f2f
>>>> between
>>>>> this and the next meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gj= shep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chica= go. But I do
>>>> think
>>>>>> the protocol team members should me at least to ge= t some face
>>>> time on
>>>>>> who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so = let me first
>>>> admit
>>>>>> that I'm not setting a good example. :p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is planning on being there and on what days? >>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
>>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org  <mailto:FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org>
>>>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-pr= oto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
>>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto<= BR> >>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto
>>


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 --B_3269600766_10684870-- --===============1430428791== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============1430428791==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 10 17:38:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJcC8-0000Jg-LG; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:38:56 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJcC7-0000Ja-Dn for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:38:55 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJcC6-0006uy-Qs for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:38:55 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8001806; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:38:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1294E119-6285-4AE5-9A53-0D438239C28F@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:38:42 -0400 To: Mark Watson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 33cc095b503da4365ce57c727e553cf1 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org I am offering to host the meeting in Fairfax County, Virginia, probably in Tyson's Corner. Regards Marshall On Aug 10, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Mark Watson wrote: > The week of the 17th is fine. We do have a bit of a critical mass > here in the Bay Area, so I wonder if there is anyone who would be > able to host the meeting here (for my part, our conference room > facilities are already pretty oversubscribed, so it might be > difficult). > > ...Mark > > > > > On 8/10/07 10:02 AM, "Ulas Kozat" wrote: > >> I might be joining as well if it is in the week of 17th. >> >> Regards, >> >> Ulas >> >> On 8/10/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com >> > wrote: >>> I am sorry, but having heard nothing, I took an engagement on the >>> week of the 3rd. >>> >>> Can we get a critical mass (Mark, Greg) on the week of the 17th. >>> Which days ? >>> >>> Regards >>> Marshall >>> >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Ali Begen ((abegen)) wrote: >>> >>> > I am available for both days. >>> > >>> > Greg, >>> > >>> > Are we getting ready for a meeting? >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > -Ali >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto: tme@multicasttech.com >>> ] >>> >> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:47 AM >>> >> To: Greg Shepherd >>> >> Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org >>> >> Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Chicago >>> >> >>> >> Hello; >>> >> >>> >> I have gotten a tentative agreement from the Fairfax Economic >>> >> Development Authority to host this meeting at their offices >>> >> in Tyson's Corner (about 7 miles from Reston and 15 from >>> >> Dulles Airport). Tentative, because we do not yet have a date >>> >> for this meeting. >>> >> >>> >> I assume that this would be 1 to 1.5 days. >>> >> >>> >> What about Labor Day (this conflicts with Greg's trip to SANOG) ? >>> >> >>> >> Or the week of the 17th ? >>> >> >>> >> The sooner we can set a date and duration, the sooner I can >>> >> get a room for it. >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> Marshall >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Okay, sounds like an interim meeting is in order. And since >>> >> this will >>> >>> require more effort than just "running into" each other at >>> >> the IETF we >>> >>> should make it more than a f2f, and more of a working >>> >> meeting with an >>> >>> agenda. >>> >>> >>> >>> Now, don't get scared - work is just part of the path to >>> >> completion. >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> So, please chime in as to where each of your are located >>> (home base >>> >>> and maybe frequent locations) and I'll work to find something >>> >>> logistically painless as possible. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/07, Ulas Kozat < ulas.kozat@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. I also think it is a >>> good >>> >>>> idea to plan an f2f between the meetings. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -Ulas >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On 7/18/07, Mark Watson wrote: >>> >>>>> Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Maybe we should >>> >> plan an f2f >>> >>>> between >>> >>>>> this and the next meeting. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> ...Mark >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On 7/18/07 12:03 PM, "Greg Shepherd" < gjshep@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> As you know, FECFrame will not be meeting in Chicago. But >>> I do >>> >>>> think >>> >>>>>> the protocol team members should me at least to get some face >>> >>>> time on >>> >>>>>> who's who. I unfortunately won't be in Chicago so let me >>> first >>> >>>> admit >>> >>>>>> that I'm not setting a good example. :p >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Who is planning on being there and on what days? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>> >>>>>> Greg >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>> >>>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>> >>>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>> >>>>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>> >>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>> >>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>> >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>> >> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>> >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>> >> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >>> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list >> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 11:39:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9Lb-0004m6-El; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:39:19 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9La-0004l2-4W for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:39:18 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9LZ-0002nP-NM for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:39:18 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8033776; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:39:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2E92391B-B4C0-443D-99FA-6D4F5170422A@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:39:02 -0400 To: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 41c17b4b16d1eedaa8395c26e9a251c4 Cc: Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Fwd: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org I asked 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 responses. Here is one : Begin forwarded message: > From: Mark Pullen > Date: August 20, 2007 11:13:30 AM EDT > To: Marshall Eubanks > Cc: Mark Pullen , Shiloh Dorgan > > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax > > Marshall, > > I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition: > I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should > know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the > participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up) > for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there. > The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE bus > provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels > (see www.gmu.edu for info). > > Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room > for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available). > > Mark > > On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > >> Dear Mark; >> >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the >> Fecframe IETF working group. >> >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to >> >> ...develop specifications for using >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the >> Internet >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and >> unicast. >> >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >> underpinning IPTV. >> >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have >> settled on the week of >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >> room for a day and a half, but I would >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run >> long. >> >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >> week, and so room availability could determine >> which two days we meet. >> >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ? >> Basically, we would need a >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think. >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 11:41:09 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9NN-0006TB-C0; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:41:09 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9NL-0006Sz-Sz for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:41:07 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9NL-0002pc-Gq for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:41:07 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8033791; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:41:07 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) References: <46C9A8EC.2070309@isoc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <313E7668-7FE4-43B1-8CF9-E89FD73A3F56@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:40:54 -0400 To: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Cc: Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Fwd: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org I asked 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 responses. Here is the other : We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to this one, as they have free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. Regards Marshall Begin forwarded message: > From: Ray Pelletier > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > To: Marshall Eubanks > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > Marshall > > The answer is that you can > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > Sept. > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll > put your > group on the calendar. > > Ray > > > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > >> Dear Ray; >> >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the >> Fecframe IETF working group. >> >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to >> >> ...develop specifications for using >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the >> Internet >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and >> unicast. >> >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >> underpinning IPTV. >> >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have >> settled on the week of >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >> room for a day and a half, but I would >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run >> long. >> >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we >> meet. >> >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? >> Basically, we would need a >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think. >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> >> _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 11:51:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9Xh-0006Pb-Am; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:51:49 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9Xg-0006Hh-HS for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:51:48 -0400 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.180]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9Xf-0000Kk-4j for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:51:48 -0400 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so26921wah for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:51:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b4rQI+CN/QoQ6f1sdWkDgVevsU4EVlPdlvl5ryQi+gE1mSkiQxqMLgb1UpJlQuTJ3uVou/2uMcS3jf3+VRv6gIHe9h15+f8mi7p9oTy2lmzdFjsLfxx5xXgHBDjBtKiZsIF4cmBJebanXZGUahr4cfIcIWPu+uelqSqqvPXA+qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W/DYB4H4F9IeZaxdDanTzmDd9rAXKREiDiJbBiojpWjvYhul/RlHuQsRHds5UuAsHEZbgMfTK9QbO7ca6bJmrPdMjyUFTOIrV4eKUWebfcchn3g7oFUMQ3uqLtMIIBupV0WRPS1wFKtvk/kHdcL7iS6FeoL/O2LfK0i7vFBJAto= Received: by 10.114.153.18 with SMTP id a18mr1107808wae.1187625105971; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.132.13 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540708200851ta4bcebfl4899b2501c4cbce6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:51:45 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: "Marshall Eubanks" In-Reply-To: <313E7668-7FE4-43B1-8CF9-E89FD73A3F56@multicasttech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <46C9A8EC.2070309@isoc.org> <313E7668-7FE4-43B1-8CF9-E89FD73A3F56@multicasttech.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d2e37451f7f22841e3b6f40c67db0f Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1779904454==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org --===============1779904454== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15141_16524239.1187625105945" ------=_Part_15141_16524239.1187625105945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options for each? Greg On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > I asked 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 > responses. > > Here is the other : > > We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to > this one, as they have > free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) > > I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. > > Regards > Marshall > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Ray Pelletier > > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > > To: Marshall Eubanks > > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > > > Marshall > > > > The answer is that you can > > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > > Sept. > > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll > > put your > > group on the calendar. > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > >> Dear Ray; > >> > >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > >> Fecframe IETF working group. > >> > >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > >> > >> ...develop specifications for using > >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > >> Internet > >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a > >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet > >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and > >> unicast. > >> > >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > >> underpinning IPTV. > >> > >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > >> settled on the week of > >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > >> room for a day and a half, but I would > >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run > >> long. > >> > >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > >> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we > >> meet. > >> > >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? > >> Basically, we would need a > >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think. > >> > >> Regards > >> Marshall > >> > >> > >> > > ------=_Part_15141_16524239.1187625105945 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options for each?

Greg

On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:
I asked 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2
responses.

Here is the other :

We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to
this one, as they have
free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.)

I would like to hear some feedback before I respond.

Regards
Marshall

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org>
> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT
> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com>
> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?
>
> Marshall
>
> The answer is that you can
> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of
> Sept.
> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll
> put your
> group on the calendar.
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
>> Dear Ray;
>>
>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the
>> Fecframe IETF working group.
>>
>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to
>>
>> ...develop specifications for using
>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the
>> Internet
>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a
>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet
>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and
>> unicast.
>>
>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology
>> underpinning IPTV.
>>
>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have
>> settled on the week of
>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a
>> room  for a day and a half, but I would
>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run
>> long.
>>
>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire
>> week,  and so room availability could determine which two days we
>> meet.
>>
>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ?
>> Basically, we would need a
>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>>


------=_Part_15141_16524239.1187625105945-- --===============1779904454== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============1779904454==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 12:02:01 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9hZ-0008DI-KH; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:02:01 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9hY-0008Ab-8N for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:02:00 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IN9hX-0003KJ-QJ for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:02:00 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8033880; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:01:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <38c19b540708200851ta4bcebfl4899b2501c4cbce6@mail.gmail.com> References: <46C9A8EC.2070309@isoc.org> <313E7668-7FE4-43B1-8CF9-E89FD73A3F56@multicasttech.com> <38c19b540708200851ta4bcebfl4899b2501c4cbce6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:01:46 -0400 To: "Greg Shepherd" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 37af5f8fbf6f013c5b771388e24b09e7 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have - airport hotels at Dulles Airport - hotels at Reston town center - hotels in Tysons Corner (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.) Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to this so hotels would be the same.) At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and Vienna. The choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for george mason university What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. Regards Marshall On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options > for each? > > Greg > > On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked > 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 > responses. > > Here is the other : > > We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to > this one, as they have > free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) > > I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. > > Regards > Marshall > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Ray Pelletier > > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > > To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> > > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > > > Marshall > > > > The answer is that you can > > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > > Sept. > > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll > > put your > > group on the calendar. > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > >> Dear Ray; > >> > >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > >> Fecframe IETF working group. > >> > >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > >> > >> ...develop specifications for using > >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > >> Internet > >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a > >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet > >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast > and > >> unicast. > >> > >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > >> underpinning IPTV. > >> > >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > >> settled on the week of > >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > >> room for a day and a half, but I would > >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run > >> long. > >> > >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > >> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we > >> meet. > >> > >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? > >> Basically, we would need a > >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you > think. > >> > >> Regards > >> Marshall > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 12:34:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INACo-0004Hw-DO; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:34:18 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INACm-0004Hr-Pu for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:34:16 -0400 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.178]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INACl-0001vc-8s for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:34:16 -0400 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so41649wah for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UxcLgqiJji2LEMpGd8AKwNJ87YMVsKULjx/RpuEPEUklCRzadAfiwQkvcCnBJZHXJ1OQsZVM72n8LyVPocd2TeuvrEH5VbMjfa4Yll5iOZSuFKLJ4J0vh4jjiS/H9byk7r8ir4bC1vq/khP5DJ/J1zer/4I6FBjZrogAPwd7OoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rQyLc+e1owShTGdw6nT0mvFueHXtjVRlGWXeH/q8b+prPryS5SGA5A6au+7V5NDYuuHOPrHwTgIqCeQJh84O/A3E5g1Ef7dgWx8qg/35Fxt+7l54+63YRhb1ljZ25F2BxiB1Se2b1vhmWL6VhfRmGu3nRL3i+b7SSJJYZRuuK08= Received: by 10.114.93.17 with SMTP id q17mr3820426wab.1187627654288; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.132.13 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540708200934q7fa3903emab9fe21a2724d7a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:34:14 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: "Marshall Eubanks" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <46C9A8EC.2070309@isoc.org> <313E7668-7FE4-43B1-8CF9-E89FD73A3F56@multicasttech.com> <38c19b540708200851ta4bcebfl4899b2501c4cbce6@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 225414c974e0d6437992164e91287a51 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1924881766==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org --===============1924881766== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15657_25262864.1187627654259" ------=_Part_15657_25262864.1187627654259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks again Marshall. So, do we have a consensus for the week of Sept 17th? Please respond with Y/N and what two days are best for you. I prefer 18th-19th. Greg On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have > > - airport hotels at Dulles Airport > - hotels at Reston town center > - hotels in Tysons Corner > > (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations > on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.) > > Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for > > 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia > > (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to > this so hotels would be the same.) > > At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and > Vienna. The > choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. > > Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for > > george mason university > > What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. > > Regards > Marshall > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > > Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options > > for each? > > > > Greg > > > > On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked > > 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 > > responses. > > > > Here is the other : > > > > We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to > > this one, as they have > > free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) > > > > I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. > > > > Regards > > Marshall > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > From: Ray Pelletier > > > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > > > To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> > > > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > > > > > Marshall > > > > > > The answer is that you can > > > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > > > Sept. > > > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll > > > put your > > > group on the calendar. > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > > > >> Dear Ray; > > >> > > >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > > >> Fecframe IETF working group. > > >> > > >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > > >> > > >> ...develop specifications for using > > >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > > >> Internet > > >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a > > >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet > > >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast > > and > > >> unicast. > > >> > > >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > > >> underpinning IPTV. > > >> > > >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > > >> settled on the week of > > >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > > >> room for a day and a half, but I would > > >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run > > >> long. > > >> > > >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > > >> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we > > >> meet. > > >> > > >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? > > >> Basically, we would need a > > >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you > > think. > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> Marshall > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > ------=_Part_15657_25262864.1187627654259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks again Marshall.

So, do we have a consensus for the week of Sept 17th? Please respond with Y/N and what two days are best for you.

I prefer 18th-19th.

Greg

On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:
Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have

- airport hotels at Dulles Airport
- hotels at Reston town center
- hotels in Tysons Corner

(Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations
on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.)

Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for

  1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia

(The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to
this so hotels would be the same.)

At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and
Vienna. The
choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper.

Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for

george mason university

What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel.

Regards
Marshall

On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote:

> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options
> for each?
>
> Greg
>
> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked
> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2
> responses.
>
> Here is the other :
>
> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to
> this one, as they have
> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.)
>
> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Ray Pelletier < rpelletier@isoc.org>
> > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT
> > To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com>
> > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > The answer is that you can
> > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of
> > Sept.
> > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll
> > put your
> > group on the calendar.
> >
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> > Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Ray;
> >>
> >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the
> >> Fecframe IETF working group.
> >>
> >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to
> >>
> >> ...develop specifications for using
> >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the
> >> Internet
> >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a
> >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet
> >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast
> and
> >> unicast.
> >>
> >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology
> >> underpinning IPTV.
> >>
> >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have
> >> settled on the week of
> >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a
> >> room  for a day and a half, but I would
> >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run
> >> long.
> >>
> >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire
> >> week,  and so room availability could determine which two days we
> >> meet.
> >>
> >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ?
> >> Basically, we would need a
> >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you
> think.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Marshall
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>


------=_Part_15657_25262864.1187627654259-- --===============1924881766== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============1924881766==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 12:35:17 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INADl-0004un-Gs; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:35:17 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INADk-0004uO-NC for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:35:16 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INADk-0004cf-7n for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:35:16 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8033953; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:35:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <38c19b540708200934q7fa3903emab9fe21a2724d7a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <46C9A8EC.2070309@isoc.org> <313E7668-7FE4-43B1-8CF9-E89FD73A3F56@multicasttech.com> <38c19b540708200851ta4bcebfl4899b2501c4cbce6@mail.gmail.com> <38c19b540708200934q7fa3903emab9fe21a2724d7a0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <52548343-23C9-433B-8A45-72485361ED24@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:35:03 -0400 To: "Greg Shepherd" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6640e3bbe8a4d70c4469bcdcbbf0921d Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org For me, any day but Thursday should be OK. Marshall On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > Thanks again Marshall. > > So, do we have a consensus for the week of Sept 17th? Please > respond with Y/N and what two days are best for you. > > I prefer 18th-19th. > > Greg > > On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Pretty > broad. If we are at ISOC, we have > > - airport hotels at Dulles Airport > - hotels at Reston town center > - hotels in Tysons Corner > > (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations > on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.) > > Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for > > 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia > > (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to > this so hotels would be the same.) > > At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and > Vienna. The > choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. > > Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for > > george mason university > > What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. > > Regards > Marshall > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > > Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options > > for each? > > > > Greg > > > > On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked > > 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 > > responses. > > > > Here is the other : > > > > We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would > incline to > > this one, as they have > > free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) > > > > I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. > > > > Regards > > Marshall > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > From: Ray Pelletier < rpelletier@isoc.org> > > > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > > > To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> > > > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > > > > > Marshall > > > > > > The answer is that you can > > > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > > > Sept. > > > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll > > > put your > > > group on the calendar. > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > > > >> Dear Ray; > > >> > > >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > > >> Fecframe IETF working group. > > >> > > >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > > >> > > >> ...develop specifications for using > > >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > > >> Internet > > >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will > develop a > > >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary > packet > > >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast > > and > > >> unicast. > > >> > > >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > > >> underpinning IPTV. > > >> > > >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > > >> settled on the week of > > >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > > >> room for a day and a half, but I would > > >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run > > >> long. > > >> > > >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > > >> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we > > >> meet. > > >> > > >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? > > >> Basically, we would need a > > >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you > > think. > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> Marshall > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 12:45:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INAO5-0004cs-Cn; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:45:57 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INAO4-0004cl-9e for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:45:56 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INAO2-0002JL-NH for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:45:56 -0400 Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2007 09:45:54 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.19,285,1183359600"; d="scan'208,217"; a="171869030:sNHT97384491" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l7KGjsam008512; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:45:54 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l7KGjsiH001226; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:45:54 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:45:53 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:45:35 -0700 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404FE1022@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <38c19b540708200934q7fa3903emab9fe21a2724d7a0@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? Thread-Index: AcfjR/UsZWWzi6goQ5SFGeimV1owUgAAKM7Q References: <46C9A8EC.2070309@isoc.org><313E7668-7FE4-43B1-8CF9-E89FD73A3F56@multicasttech.com><38c19b540708200851ta4bcebfl4899b2501c4cbce6@mail.gmail.com> <38c19b540708200934q7fa3903emab9fe21a2724d7a0@mail.gmail.com> From: "Ali Begen \(abegen\)" To: "Greg Shepherd" , "Marshall Eubanks" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2007 16:45:53.0983 (UTC) FILETIME=[92E334F0:01C7E349] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=11897; t=1187628354; x=1188492354; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20Begen=20\(abegen\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[FECFRAME-PROTO]=20Re=3A=20FECFRAME=20Design=20Meetin g=20in=20Fairfax=20? |Sender:=20; bh=lErpPx/LCQzgIJ3ZFhVVr8y+X9j8Yyty/6UdpsNkW9U=; b=asAV2ERYU5dcQrxL5ih5tdWz7elj6TqeABCpSPAbtYlF0iYh0Eq9euGaD8qdghP7CBJaQYba YvZqKkM3g3Tvye3QkVuIecPvbv9K1+GhO9tgJSs1GM9Rj0z1s4NNU9gT; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 8eeb555810cda1f2c5989480370dc4ca Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1909106387==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1909106387== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7E349.929E2E92" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E349.929E2E92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Greg, =20 My preference is 17/18, if possible. =20 Thanks for the organization, Marshall. =20 -Ali ________________________________ From: Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:34 AM To: Marshall Eubanks Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? =09 =09 Thanks again Marshall. =09 So, do we have a consensus for the week of Sept 17th? Please respond with Y/N and what two days are best for you. =09 I prefer 18th-19th. =09 Greg =09 =09 On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote:=20 Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have =09 - airport hotels at Dulles Airport - hotels at Reston town center - hotels in Tysons Corner =09 (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations=20 on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.) =09 Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for =09 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia =09 (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to=20 this so hotels would be the same.) =09 At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and Vienna. The choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. =09 Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for=20 =09 george mason university =09 What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. =09 Regards Marshall =09 On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: =09 > Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options=20 > for each? > > Greg > > On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked > 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2=20 > responses. > > Here is the other : > > We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to > this one, as they have > free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.)=20 > > I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. > > Regards > Marshall > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Ray Pelletier < rpelletier@isoc.org > > > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > > To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> > > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?=20 > > > > Marshall > > > > The answer is that you can > > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > > Sept. > > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll=20 > > put your > > group on the calendar. > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > >> Dear Ray; > >>=20 > >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > >> Fecframe IETF working group. > >> > >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > >>=20 > >> ...develop specifications for using > >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > >> Internet > >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a=20 > >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet > >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast > and > >> unicast. > >>=20 > >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > >> underpinning IPTV. > >> > >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > >> settled on the week of > >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > >> room for a day and a half, but I would > >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run=20 > >> long. > >> > >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > >> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we > >> meet.=20 > >> > >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? > >> Basically, we would need a > >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you=20 > think. > >> > >> Regards > >> Marshall > >> > >> > >> > > =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E349.929E2E92 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Greg,
 
My preference is 17/18, if = possible.
 
Thanks for the organization, = Marshall.
 
-Ali

From: Greg Shepherd = [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:34 AM
To: = Marshall=20 Eubanks
Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject:=20 [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax = ?

Thanks again Marshall.

So, do we have a consensus = for the=20 week of Sept 17th? Please respond with Y/N and what two days are best = for=20 you.

I prefer 18th-19th.

Greg

On 8/20/07, Marshall=20 Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>=20 wrote:
Pretty=20 broad. If we are at ISOC, we have

- airport hotels at Dulles=20 Airport
- hotels at Reston town center
- hotels in Tysons=20 Corner

(Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the = Juniper=20 locations
on Sunset Hills are all not very far from = here.)

Google=20 maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for

  1775 = Wiehle=20 Ave., reston, virginia

(The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic = Development, is pretty close to
this so hotels would be the=20 same.)

At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in = Fairfax City=20 and
Vienna. The
choice is not so great, but they are probably=20 cheaper.

Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city = for=20

george mason university

What I would do is ask Ray or = Mark if=20 they have a preferred hotel.

Regards
Marshall

On = Aug 20,=20 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote:

> Thanks Marshall = - I've=20 no preference. What are our hotel options
> for = each?
>
>=20 Greg
>
> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> = wrote:I=20 asked
> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this = AM) 2=20
> responses.
>
> Here is the other = :
>
> We=20 need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline = to
>=20 this one, as they have
> free parking. Of course, GMU has = multicast=20 network people.)
>
> I would like to hear some feedback = before=20 I respond.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
> = Begin=20 forwarded message:
>
> > From: Ray Pelletier < = rpelletier@isoc.org>
> >=20 Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT
> > To: Marshall = Eubanks <=20 tme@multicasttech.com>
&g= t;=20 > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?
> = >
>=20 > Marshall
> >
> > The answer is that you = can
>=20 > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week=20 of
> > Sept.
> > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me = know which=20 2 days you want and I'll
> > put your
> > group = on the=20 calendar.
> >
> > Ray
> >
> = >
>=20 >
> > Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> >
> = >> Dear=20 Ray;
> >>
> >> I am trying to find a place = for a=20 design team meeting for the
> >> Fecframe IETF working=20 group.
> >>
> >> Fecframe is a new working = group=20 with a charter to
> >>
> >> ...develop=20 specifications for using
> >> forward error correction = (FEC)=20 codes with applications in the
> >> Internet
> = >> to=20 provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a =
>=20 >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to = arbitrary=20 packet
> >> flows over unreliable transport protocols = over both=20 IP multicast
> and
> >> unicast.
> >> =
>=20 >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of=20 technology
> >> underpinning IPTV.
> = >>
>=20 >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), = and=20 have
> >> settled on the week of
> >> = September=20 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a
> = >>=20 room  for a day and a half, but I would
> >> = like to=20 secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run
> = >>=20 long.
> >>
> >> At present, I think that = everyone is=20 available for the entire
> >> week,  and so = room=20 availability could determine which two days we
> >> = meet.=20
> >>
> >> Do you think that there is any = chance we=20 could meet at ISOC HQ ?
> >> Basically, we would need = a
>=20 >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what = you=20
> think.
> >>
> >> Regards
> = >>=20 Marshall
> >>
> >>
>=20 = >>
>
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E349.929E2E92-- --===============1909106387== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============1909106387==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 16:49:39 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INEBv-0006Hn-7d; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:49:39 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INEBt-0006Hi-OO for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:49:37 -0400 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.239]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INEBs-0000dE-Cu for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:49:37 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n1so511605nzf for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:49:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GEHgfH6/vQiBnDf7P2P0710e3sFQwUr4FTCTyIOM+PmXvBcnMP82mypRU8B1CfAe9LFO1yzaltJlS0+zWESTUtXEoCT67ZSop5TEEr9ete+krviDys1nrkp8BsKBbWkqmQvw4SbQqIX9DCbCdnvMKlSDme0axOJFjGt5TEhxEqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pzLV0H1ZDUbZMiPILN7Bg96NCTQq6PBV6X7zk4OZrJugOwojRjhcrUcVtv1D5TfaSRIVI0FuUDhhVum2GMO5Rb2aMtM8qJyYjC7vo5S9281MJ2MGvoN0LihNzD0bGD0fhdmRQA+tANQOVRJbyqUwF692PZ6NEYmSakqvqN+8BSc= Received: by 10.143.9.5 with SMTP id m5mr662284wfi.1187642972461; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.78.15 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <241bc2150708201349s7086f1f8se263c5b2b262c215@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:49:32 -0700 From: "Ulas Kozat" To: "Ali Begen (abegen)" Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? In-Reply-To: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404FE1022@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <46C9A8EC.2070309@isoc.org> <313E7668-7FE4-43B1-8CF9-E89FD73A3F56@multicasttech.com> <38c19b540708200851ta4bcebfl4899b2501c4cbce6@mail.gmail.com> <38c19b540708200934q7fa3903emab9fe21a2724d7a0@mail.gmail.com> <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5404FE1022@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 162d87dc0b780d17da9b1934777fd451 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1375557772==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org --===============1375557772== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_111870_32263079.1187642972313" ------=_Part_111870_32263079.1187642972313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 17/18 seem to work for me as well. Thanks, Ulas On 8/20/07, Ali Begen (abegen) wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > My preference is 17/18, if possible. > > Thanks for the organization, Marshall. > > -Ali > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2007 9:34 AM > *To:* Marshall Eubanks > *Cc:* fecframe-proto@ietf.org > *Subject:* [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > Thanks again Marshall. > > So, do we have a consensus for the week of Sept 17th? Please respond with > Y/N and what two days are best for you. > > I prefer 18th-19th. > > Greg > > On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > > Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have > > > > - airport hotels at Dulles Airport > > - hotels at Reston town center > > - hotels in Tysons Corner > > > > (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations > > on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.) > > > > Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for > > > > 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia > > > > (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to > > this so hotels would be the same.) > > > > At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and > > Vienna. The > > choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. > > > > Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for > > > > george mason university > > > > What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. > > > > Regards > > Marshall > > > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > > > > Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options > > > for each? > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked > > > 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 > > > responses. > > > > > > Here is the other : > > > > > > We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to > > > this one, as they have > > > free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) > > > > > > I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. > > > > > > Regards > > > Marshall > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > > From: Ray Pelletier < rpelletier@isoc.org> > > > > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > > > > To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> > > > > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > > > > > > > Marshall > > > > > > > > The answer is that you can > > > > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > > > > Sept. > > > > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll > > > > put your > > > > group on the calendar. > > > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > > > > > >> Dear Ray; > > > >> > > > >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > > > >> Fecframe IETF working group. > > > >> > > > >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > > > >> > > > >> ...develop specifications for using > > > >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > > > >> Internet > > > >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a > > > > > >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet > > > >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast > > > and > > > >> unicast. > > > >> > > > >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > > > >> underpinning IPTV. > > > >> > > > >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > > > >> settled on the week of > > > >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > > > >> room for a day and a half, but I would > > > >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run > > > >> long. > > > >> > > > >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > > > >> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we > > > >> meet. > > > >> > > > >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? > > > >> Basically, we would need a > > > >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you > > > think. > > > >> > > > >> Regards > > > >> Marshall > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > ------=_Part_111870_32263079.1187642972313 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 17/18 seem to work for me as well.

Thanks,

Ulas

On 8/20/07, Ali Begen (abegen) <abegen@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi Greg,
 
My preference is 17/18, if possible.
 
Thanks for the organization, Marshall.
 
-Ali

From: Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:34 AM
To: Marshall Eubanks
Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?

Thanks again Marshall.

So, do we have a consensus for the week of Sept 17th? Please respond with Y/N and what two days are best for you.

I prefer 18th-19th.

Greg

On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:
Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have

- airport hotels at Dulles Airport
- hotels at Reston town center
- hotels in Tysons Corner

(Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations
on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.)

Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for

  1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia

(The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to
this so hotels would be the same.)

At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and
Vienna. The
choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper.

Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for

george mason university

What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel.

Regards
Marshall

On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote:

> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options
> for each?
>
> Greg
>
> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked
> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2
> responses.
>
> Here is the other :
>
> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to
> this one, as they have
> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.)
>
> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Ray Pelletier < rpelletier@isoc.org>
> > Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT
> > To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com>
> > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > The answer is that you can
> > have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of
> > Sept.
> > 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll
> > put your
> > group on the calendar.
> >
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> > Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Ray;
> >>
> >> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the
> >> Fecframe IETF working group.
> >>
> >> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to
> >>
> >> ...develop specifications for using
> >> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the
> >> Internet
> >> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a
> >> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet
> >> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast
> and
> >> unicast.
> >>
> >> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology
> >> underpinning IPTV.
> >>
> >> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have
> >> settled on the week of
> >> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a
> >> room  for a day and a half, but I would
> >> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run
> >> long.
> >>
> >> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire
> >> week,  and so room availability could determine which two days we
> >> meet.
> >>
> >> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ?
> >> Basically, we would need a
> >> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you
> think.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Marshall
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>



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From: Mark Watson To: Marshall Eubanks , Greg Shepherd Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? Thread-Index: AcfjkclHB+bbME+FEdyOrQAX8sJN9g== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 22bbb45ef41b733eb2d03ee71ece8243 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org My preference is 18/19. ...Mark On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" wrote: > Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have > > - airport hotels at Dulles Airport > - hotels at Reston town center > - hotels in Tysons Corner > > (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations > on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.) > > Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for > > 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia > > (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to > this so hotels would be the same.) > > At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and > Vienna. The > choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. > > Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for > > george mason university > > What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. > > Regards > Marshall > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > >> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options >> for each? >> >> Greg >> >> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked >> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 >> responses. >> >> Here is the other : >> >> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to >> this one, as they have >> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) >> >> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Ray Pelletier >>> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT >>> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> >>> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? >>> >>> Marshall >>> >>> The answer is that you can >>> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of >>> Sept. >>> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll >>> put your >>> group on the calendar. >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> >>> >>> Marshall Eubanks wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Ray; >>>> >>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the >>>> Fecframe IETF working group. >>>> >>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to >>>> >>>> ...develop specifications for using >>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the >>>> Internet >>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a >>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast >> and >>>> unicast. >>>> >>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >>>> underpinning IPTV. >>>> >>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have >>>> settled on the week of >>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >>>> room for a day and a half, but I would >>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run >>>> long. >>>> >>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >>>> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we >>>> meet. >>>> >>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? >>>> Basically, we would need a >>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you >> think. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Marshall >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 21:51:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INIts-0000qS-UP; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:51:20 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INItr-0000ip-1N for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:51:19 -0400 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.177]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INItp-0000jZ-Ee for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:51:19 -0400 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so194427wah for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:51:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QZ+AqlSLiZ5JzkUq6IiLKjUsTKygNHDUZ0sThTr2bLw+LWhZTP1HHLsZvsao1p1jSzOa5rV0rLXK3R5UeWfDu/fFo/CTLgo4ylvJyyhjJrP/8UUEubXQa8n6P+spMfysLY3Tg63bzX+j9kgc3Uyu77itbZLKkFqO0KdA12yF6Wc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Lr8VIwcFJLYcejlMDb3MW39SFQysnM8tW4XCzODQw5LF0Zmt95oBT1anRvlrOuA9oC+Z1ikDEe86w9aT+5zRdBFd69l4bkjIVZMVvtuHw3/8sZ/390xmycId+/6FO3rT2ctdtx8CMVEHpycjUBFdagzrCqTGPvhzDv1pYs929ms= Received: by 10.115.55.1 with SMTP id h1mr3326967wak.1187661076159; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.132.13 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540708201851o1b75fd05w73dd644be3277432@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:51:16 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: "Mark Watson" Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2a76bcd37b1c8a21336eb0a1ea6bbf48 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0177045119==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org --===============0177045119== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21169_29702611.1187661076121" ------=_Part_21169_29702611.1187661076121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think the west coast folks prefer to start on tuesday so we don't have to fly on Sunday. That's 5 so far who have spoken-up. Thanks, Greg On 8/20/07, Mark Watson wrote: > > My preference is 18/19. > > ...Mark > > > On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" wrote: > > > Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have > > > > - airport hotels at Dulles Airport > > - hotels at Reston town center > > - hotels in Tysons Corner > > > > (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations > > on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.) > > > > Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for > > > > 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia > > > > (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to > > this so hotels would be the same.) > > > > At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and > > Vienna. The > > choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. > > > > Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for > > > > george mason university > > > > What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. > > > > Regards > > Marshall > > > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > > >> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options > >> for each? > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked > >> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 > >> responses. > >> > >> Here is the other : > >> > >> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to > >> this one, as they have > >> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) > >> > >> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. > >> > >> Regards > >> Marshall > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> From: Ray Pelletier > >>> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > >>> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> > >>> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > >>> > >>> Marshall > >>> > >>> The answer is that you can > >>> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > >>> Sept. > >>> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll > >>> put your > >>> group on the calendar. > >>> > >>> Ray > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Marshall Eubanks wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear Ray; > >>>> > >>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > >>>> Fecframe IETF working group. > >>>> > >>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > >>>> > >>>> ...develop specifications for using > >>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > >>>> Internet > >>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a > >>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet > >>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast > >> and > >>>> unicast. > >>>> > >>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > >>>> underpinning IPTV. > >>>> > >>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > >>>> settled on the week of > >>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > >>>> room for a day and a half, but I would > >>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run > >>>> long. > >>>> > >>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > >>>> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we > >>>> meet. > >>>> > >>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? > >>>> Basically, we would need a > >>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you > >> think. > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> Marshall > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > ------=_Part_21169_29702611.1187661076121 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think the west coast folks prefer to start on tuesday so we don't have to fly on Sunday.

That's 5 so far who have spoken-up.

Thanks,
Greg

On 8/20/07, Mark Watson <mark@digitalfountain.com> wrote:
My preference is 18/19.

...Mark


On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:

> Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have
>
> - airport hotels at Dulles Airport
> - hotels at Reston town center
> - hotels in Tysons Corner
>
> (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations
> on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.)
>
> Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for
>
>   1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia
>
> (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to
> this so hotels would be the same.)
>
> At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and
> Vienna. The
> choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper.
>
> Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for
>
> george mason university
>
> What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
> On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote:
>
>> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options
>> for each?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked
>> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2
>> responses.
>>
>> Here is the other :
>>
>> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to
>> this one, as they have
>> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.)
>>
>> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marshall
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org>
>>> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT
>>> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com>
>>> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>>
>>> The answer is that you can
>>> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of
>>> Sept.
>>> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll
>>> put your
>>> group on the calendar.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Ray;
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the
>>>> Fecframe IETF working group.
>>>>
>>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to
>>>>
>>>> ...develop specifications for using
>>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the
>>>> Internet
>>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a
>>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet
>>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast
>> and
>>>> unicast.
>>>>
>>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology
>>>> underpinning IPTV.
>>>>
>>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have
>>>> settled on the week of
>>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a
>>>> room  for a day and a half, but I would
>>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run
>>>> long.
>>>>
>>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire
>>>> week,  and so room availability could determine which two days we
>>>> meet.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ?
>>>> Basically, we would need a
>>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you
>> think.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Marshall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto


------=_Part_21169_29702611.1187661076121-- --===============0177045119== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============0177045119==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 20 21:56:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INIyj-0004kT-4i; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:56:21 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INIyh-0004kH-56 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:56:19 -0400 Received: from www.amesweb.com ([216.218.233.126]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INIyf-0000ov-J8 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:56:19 -0400 Received: from exchange.amesweb.com ([12.215.108.10]) by www.amesweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1INIyh-0005kg-00 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:56:19 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <38c19b540708201851o1b75fd05w73dd644be3277432@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? thread-index: Acfjlc88xruQvkliSAeIxG8z6X3oJQAAINKw References: <38c19b540708201851o1b75fd05w73dd644be3277432@mail.gmail.com> From: "Michael Bany" To: "Greg Shepherd" , "Mark Watson" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ba9cd4f9acda58dbe142afff7265daff Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0087721029==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0087721029== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7E396.6C565D23" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E396.6C565D23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I should be able to make any days the 17th thru the 19th =20 Mike =20 From: Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:51 PM To: Mark Watson Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? =20 I think the west coast folks prefer to start on tuesday so we don't have to fly on Sunday. That's 5 so far who have spoken-up.=20 Thanks, Greg On 8/20/07, Mark Watson wrote: My preference is 18/19. ...Mark On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" wrote: > Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have=20 > > - airport hotels at Dulles Airport > - hotels at Reston town center > - hotels in Tysons Corner > > (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations > on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.)=20 > > Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for > > 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia > > (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to > this so hotels would be the same.)=20 > > At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and > Vienna. The > choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. > > Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for=20 > > george mason university > > What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. > > Regards > Marshall > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote:=20 > >> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options >> for each? >> >> Greg >> >> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked >> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 >> responses. >> >> Here is the other : >> >> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to >> this one, as they have >> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) >> >> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. >> >> Regards >> Marshall=20 >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Ray Pelletier >>> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT >>> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> >>> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? >>> >>> Marshall >>>=20 >>> The answer is that you can >>> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of >>> Sept. >>> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll=20 >>> put your >>> group on the calendar. >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> >>> >>> Marshall Eubanks wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Ray;=20 >>>> >>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the >>>> Fecframe IETF working group. >>>> >>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to=20 >>>> >>>> ...develop specifications for using >>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the >>>> Internet >>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a >>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast >> and >>>> unicast. >>>> >>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >>>> underpinning IPTV. >>>> >>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have=20 >>>> settled on the week of >>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >>>> room for a day and a half, but I would >>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run=20 >>>> long. >>>> >>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >>>> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we >>>> meet.=20 >>>> >>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? >>>> Basically, we would need a >>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you=20 >> think. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Marshall >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________=20 > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E396.6C565D23 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I should be able to make any days the 17th = thru the 19th

 

Mike

 

From:= Greg = Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:51 PM
To: Mark Watson
Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in = Fairfax ?

 

I think the west = coast folks prefer to start on tuesday so we don't have to fly on Sunday.

That's 5 so far who have spoken-up.

Thanks,
Greg

On 8/20/07, Mark = Watson <mark@digitalfountain.com>= wrote:

My preference is = 18/19.

...Mark


On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com> = wrote:

> Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have
>
> - airport hotels at Dulles Airport
> - hotels at Reston town center
> - hotels in Tysons Corner
>
> (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper = locations
> on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.)
>
> Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for
>
>   1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia
>
> (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close = to
> this so hotels would be the same.)
>
> At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City = and
> Vienna. The
> choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper.
>
> Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for
>
> george mason university
>
> What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred = hotel.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
> On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote:
>
>> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel = options
>> for each?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> = wrote:I asked
>> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2
>> responses.
>>
>> Here is the other :
>>
>> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would = incline to
>> this one, as they have
>> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.)
>>
>> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marshall
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org>
>>> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT
>>> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com>
>>> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>>
>>> The answer is that you can
>>> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the = week of
>>> Sept.
>>> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want = and I'll
>>> put your
>>> group on the calendar.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Ray;
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting = for the
>>>> Fecframe IETF working group.
>>>>
>>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to
>>>>
>>>> ...develop specifications for using
>>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications = in the
>>>> Internet
>>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group = will develop a
>>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to = arbitrary packet
>>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast
>> and
>>>> unicast.
>>>>
>>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology
>>>> underpinning IPTV.
>>>>
>>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 = people), and have
>>>> settled on the week of
>>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the = use of a
>>>> room  for a day and a half, but I would
>>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in = case we run
>>>> long.
>>>>
>>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the = entire
>>>> week,  and so room availability could = determine which two days we
>>>> meet.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at = ISOC HQ ?
>>>> Basically, we would need a
>>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know = what you
>> think.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Marshall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
> FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org
> https://ww= w1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto

 

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Thread-Index: Acfjlc88xruQvkliSAeIxG8z6X3oJQAAINKwAMKC2YA= References: <38c19b540708201851o1b75fd05w73dd644be3277432@mail.gmail.com> From: "Ali Begen \(abegen\)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2007 22:46:16.0642 (UTC) FILETIME=[94A62220:01C7E6A0] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=16484; t=1187995585; x=1188859585; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20Begen=20\(abegen\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[FECFRAME-PROTO]=20Re=3A=20FECFRAME=20Design=20Meetin g=20in=20Fairfax=20? |Sender:=20; bh=qjam9GE6ksdhnFDOgMVTZU2dVlv+bNQ5Hfhdj5bwVqU=; b=czJwgjHJ68nmwjUC4EDPXBppIYAqz+2oVR6lR2kie5UZVplAhPQIltfqdXo1TdX7ugZw/sIL 5DEBAhoQ7wVAO3JoNshbshCY3PYG3LxTgh4M7vJcl1+W8nb1qClXOpgv; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: c40ff0c70161549dbde2f89c7946385a X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0901700069==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0901700069== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7E6A0.9484353F" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E6A0.9484353F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg, =20 Have we finalized the date and place? I need to schedule my trip early next week as I have other travel plans before and after our design team meeting.=20 =20 Best, -Ali ________________________________ From: Michael Bany [mailto:mbany@dvblink.net]=20 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:56 PM To: Greg Shepherd; Mark Watson Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? =09 =09 I should be able to make any days the 17th thru the 19th =20 Mike =20 From: Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:51 PM To: Mark Watson Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? =20 I think the west coast folks prefer to start on tuesday so we don't have to fly on Sunday. =09 That's 5 so far who have spoken-up.=20 =09 Thanks, Greg On 8/20/07, Mark Watson wrote: My preference is 18/19. =09 ...Mark =09 =09 On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" wrote: =09 > Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have=20 > > - airport hotels at Dulles Airport > - hotels at Reston town center > - hotels in Tysons Corner > > (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations > on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.)=20 > > Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for > > 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia > > (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to > this so hotels would be the same.)=20 > > At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and > Vienna. The > choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. > > Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for=20 > > george mason university > > What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. > > Regards > Marshall > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote:=20 > >> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options >> for each? >> >> Greg >> >> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked >> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 >> responses. >> >> Here is the other : >> >> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to=20 >> this one, as they have >> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) >> >> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. >> >> Regards >> Marshall=20 >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Ray Pelletier >>> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT >>> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> >>> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? >>> >>> Marshall >>>=20 >>> The answer is that you can >>> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of >>> Sept. >>> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll=20 >>> put your >>> group on the calendar. >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> >>> >>> Marshall Eubanks wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Ray;=20 >>>> >>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the >>>> Fecframe IETF working group. >>>> >>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to=20 >>>> >>>> ...develop specifications for using >>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the >>>> Internet >>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a=20 >>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast >> and >>>> unicast. >>>> >>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >>>> underpinning IPTV. >>>> >>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have=20 >>>> settled on the week of >>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >>>> room for a day and a half, but I would >>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run=20 >>>> long. >>>> >>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >>>> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we >>>> meet.=20 >>>> >>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? >>>> Basically, we would need a >>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you=20 >> think. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Marshall >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________=20 > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E6A0.9484353F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg,
 
Have we finalized the date and place? I need = to=20 schedule my trip early next week as I have other travel plans before and = after=20 our design team meeting.
 
Best,
-Ali

From: Michael Bany = [mailto:mbany@dvblink.net]=20
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:56 PM
To: Greg = Shepherd;=20 Mark Watson
Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: = RE:=20 [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax = ?

I=20 should be able to make any days the 17th thru the=20 19th

 

Mike

 

From: Greg = Shepherd=20 [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 = 8:51=20 PM
To: Mark Watson
Cc:=20 fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: = FECFRAME=20 Design Meeting in Fairfax ?

 

I think the west = coast folks=20 prefer to start on tuesday so we don't have to fly on = Sunday.

That's 5=20 so far who have spoken-up.

Thanks,
Greg

On 8/20/07, Mark = Watson=20 <mark@digitalfountain.com>= =20 wrote:

My preference is=20 18/19.

...Mark


On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall = Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com>=20 wrote:

> Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have =
>
> -=20 airport hotels at Dulles Airport
> - hotels at Reston town=20 center
> - hotels in Tysons Corner
>
> (Note, btw, = that the=20 Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations
> on Sunset = Hills are=20 all not very far from here.)
>
> Google maps comes up = with 10=20 hotels in Reston for
>
>   1775 Wiehle Ave., = reston,=20 virginia
>
> (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic = Development,=20 is pretty close to
> this so hotels would be the same.) =
>
>=20 At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City = and
>=20 Vienna. The
> choice is not so great, but they are probably=20 cheaper.
>
> Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in = Fairfax city=20 for
>
> george mason university
>
> What I = would do=20 is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel.
>
>=20 Regards
> Marshall
>
> On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, = Greg=20 Shepherd wrote:
>
>> Thanks Marshall - I've no = preference.=20 What are our hotel options
>> for = each?
>>
>>=20 Greg
>>
>> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> = wrote:I=20 asked
>> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this = AM)=20 2
>> responses.
>>
>> Here is the other=20 :
>>
>> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which = host - I=20 would incline to
>> this one, as they have
>> free = parking.=20 Of course, GMU has multicast network people.)
>>
>> = I would=20 like to hear some feedback before I respond.
>>
>>=20 Regards
>> Marshall
>>
>> Begin forwarded=20 message:
>>
>>> From: Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org>
>&g= t;>=20 Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT
>>> To: Marshall = Eubanks=20 < tme@multicasttech.com>
&g= t;>>=20 Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax=20 ?
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>> =
>>>=20 The answer is that you can
>>> have the ISOC Reston = conference=20 room for any two days the week of
>>> = Sept.
>>> 17th,=20 from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll =
>>>=20 put your
>>> group on the=20 calendar.
>>>
>>>=20 Ray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> = Marshall=20 Eubanks wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Ray;=20
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to find a place = for a=20 design team meeting for the
>>>> Fecframe IETF working=20 group.
>>>>
>>>> Fecframe is a new = working group=20 with a charter to
>>>>
>>>> ...develop=20 specifications for using
>>>> forward error correction = (FEC)=20 codes with applications in the
>>>>=20 Internet
>>>> to provide protection against packet = loss. The=20 group will develop a
>>>> protocol framework for = application=20 of FEC codes to arbitrary packet
>>>> flows over = unreliable=20 transport protocols over both IP multicast
>> = and
>>>>=20 unicast.
>>>>
>>>> This has the = potential to=20 become an essential piece of technology
>>>> = underpinning=20 IPTV.
>>>>
>>>> We need to have a = meeting of the=20 design team (6 people), and have
>>>> settled on the = week=20 of
>>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will = require the=20 use of a
>>>> room  for a day and a half, but = I=20 would
>>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 = to 5)=20 in case we run
>>>>=20 long.
>>>>
>>>> At present, I think that = everyone is available for the entire
>>>> = week,  and=20 so room availability could determine which two days = we
>>>>=20 meet.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think that there = is any=20 chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ?
>>>> Basically, we = would need=20 a
>>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me = know=20 what you
>> think.
>>>>
>>>>=20 Regards
>>>>=20 = Marshall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
&= gt;>
>>
>
>
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E6A0.9484353F-- --===============0901700069== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============0901700069==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Tue Aug 28 08:32:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQ0Fe-0004Ip-4h; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:32:58 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQ0Fc-0004Ij-J7 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:32:56 -0400 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.183]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQ0Fa-00008A-Sq for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:32:56 -0400 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id s27so378654ele for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:32:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tpxxGL22ivd1gUniB/ZYCw47FjeQZO76CquMiqHYRFX6ujxX9tiwMMfHjz+ammTRAfSXChZhpB3dCAvPZ38gIzjG0iHtF7MpSvByNeap8qhlfNsDiDgzD3AIe31Z7J2Y3vdMoE21zhZt2Pf002KWaX5so1vjjcfzQtzCl/awt7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZdThkHDm1vFED3k1ciqq2yloorhhGmQJdMJYeQY67kZ8gYRiw8X11FuSvlJtbkVAmt4TOqRV8JRvDGNVFoRZmrLU4nc31iPxZ3EC4VBN2HlAURt1bR4L7xmo74TceBTSnhFx65jFugGCil2XDivMor+BLO3vysrbJ5FzFKpxG+E= Received: by 10.115.74.1 with SMTP id b1mr671853wal.1188304370449; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.132.13 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540708280532u78e9302cn75da967d8d0101ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:32:50 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: "Ali Begen (abegen)" Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? In-Reply-To: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D540504B073@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38c19b540708201851o1b75fd05w73dd644be3277432@mail.gmail.com> <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D540504B073@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 65215b440f7ab00ca9514de4a7a89926 Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0379259946==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org --===============0379259946== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15982_26228533.1188304370298" ------=_Part_15982_26228533.1188304370298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Marshall, Looks like we're split between Mon-Tues and Tues-Wed so unless someone is absolutely blocked just pick what works best and book it. Let us all know soon too so we can arrange travel. Thanks On 8/24/07, Ali Begen (abegen) wrote: > > Greg, > > Have we finalized the date and place? I need to schedule my trip early > next week as I have other travel plans before and after our design team > meeting. > > Best, > -Ali > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Michael Bany [mailto:mbany@dvblink.net] > *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2007 6:56 PM > *To:* Greg Shepherd; Mark Watson > *Cc:* fecframe-proto@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > I should be able to make any days the 17th thru the 19th > > > > Mike > > > > *From:* Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2007 8:51 PM > *To:* Mark Watson > *Cc:* fecframe-proto@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > > > > I think the west coast folks prefer to start on tuesday so we don't have > to fly on Sunday. > > That's 5 so far who have spoken-up. > > Thanks, > Greg > > On 8/20/07, *Mark Watson* wrote: > > My preference is 18/19. > > ...Mark > > > On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" wrote: > > > Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have > > > > - airport hotels at Dulles Airport > > - hotels at Reston town center > > - hotels in Tysons Corner > > > > (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations > > on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.) > > > > Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for > > > > 1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia > > > > (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to > > this so hotels would be the same.) > > > > At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and > > Vienna. The > > choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper. > > > > Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for > > > > george mason university > > > > What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel. > > > > Regards > > Marshall > > > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > > >> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options > >> for each? > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked > >> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2 > >> responses. > >> > >> Here is the other : > >> > >> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to > >> this one, as they have > >> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.) > >> > >> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond. > >> > >> Regards > >> Marshall > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> From: Ray Pelletier > >>> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT > >>> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> > >>> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ? > >>> > >>> Marshall > >>> > >>> The answer is that you can > >>> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of > >>> Sept. > >>> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll > >>> put your > >>> group on the calendar. > >>> > >>> Ray > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Marshall Eubanks wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear Ray; > >>>> > >>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > >>>> Fecframe IETF working group. > >>>> > >>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > >>>> > >>>> ...develop specifications for using > >>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > >>>> Internet > >>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a > >>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet > >>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast > >> and > >>>> unicast. > >>>> > >>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > >>>> underpinning IPTV. > >>>> > >>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > >>>> settled on the week of > >>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > >>>> room for a day and a half, but I would > >>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run > >>>> long. > >>>> > >>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > >>>> week, and so room availability could determine which two days we > >>>> meet. > >>>> > >>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ? > >>>> Basically, we would need a > >>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you > >> think. > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> Marshall > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > > ------=_Part_15982_26228533.1188304370298 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Marshall,

Looks like we're split between Mon-Tues and Tues-Wed so unless someone is absolutely blocked just pick what works best and book it. Let us all know soon too so we can arrange travel.

Thanks

On 8/24/07, Ali Begen (abegen) <abegen@cisco.com> wrote:
Greg,
 
Have we finalized the date and place? I need to schedule my trip early next week as I have other travel plans before and after our design team meeting.
 
Best,
-Ali

From: Michael Bany [mailto:mbany@dvblink.net]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:56 PM
To: Greg Shepherd; Mark Watson
Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?

I should be able to make any days the 17th thru the 19th

 

Mike

 

From: Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:51 PM
To: Mark Watson
Cc: fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?

 

I think the west coast folks prefer to start on tuesday so we don't have to fly on Sunday.

That's 5 so far who have spoken-up.

Thanks,
Greg

On 8/20/07, Mark Watson <mark@digitalfountain.com> wrote:

My preference is 18/19.

...Mark


On 8/20/07 9:01 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com > wrote:

> Pretty broad. If we are at ISOC, we have
>
> - airport hotels at Dulles Airport
> - hotels at Reston town center
> - hotels in Tysons Corner
>
> (Note, btw, that the Sprint, Polycom, Cisco and the Juniper locations
> on Sunset Hills are all not very far from here.)
>
> Google maps comes up with 10 hotels in Reston for
>
>   1775 Wiehle Ave., reston, virginia
>
> (The 3rd guy I asked, Fairfax Economic Development, is pretty close to
> this so hotels would be the same.)
>
> At GMU, you have a bunch of hotels and motels in Fairfax City and
> Vienna. The
> choice is not so great, but they are probably cheaper.
>
> Google Maps comes up with 10 hotels in Fairfax city for
>
> george mason university
>
> What I would do is ask Ray or Mark if they have a preferred hotel.
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
> On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote:
>
>> Thanks Marshall - I've no preference. What are our hotel options
>> for each?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On 8/20/07, Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:I asked
>> 3 people for a room - I received (so far, both this AM) 2
>> responses.
>>
>> Here is the other :
>>
>> We need to decide WHICH 2 days. (And, which host - I would incline to
>> this one, as they have
>> free parking. Of course, GMU has multicast network people.)
>>
>> I would like to hear some feedback before I respond.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marshall
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org>
>>> Date: August 20, 2007 10:45:00 AM EDT
>>> To: Marshall Eubanks < tme@multicasttech.com>
>>> Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax ?
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>>
>>> The answer is that you can
>>> have the ISOC Reston conference room for any two days the week of
>>> Sept.
>>> 17th, from 9-5:00. Just let me know which 2 days you want and I'll
>>> put your
>>> group on the calendar.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Ray;
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the
>>>> Fecframe IETF working group.
>>>>
>>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to
>>>>
>>>> ...develop specifications for using
>>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the
>>>> Internet
>>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a
>>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet
>>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast
>> and
>>>> unicast.
>>>>
>>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology
>>>> underpinning IPTV.
>>>>
>>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have
>>>> settled on the week of
>>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a
>>>> room  for a day and a half, but I would
>>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run
>>>> long.
>>>>
>>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire
>>>> week,  and so room availability could determine which two days we
>>>> meet.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at ISOC HQ ?
>>>> Basically, we would need a
>>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you
>> think.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Marshall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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------=_Part_15982_26228533.1188304370298-- --===============0379259946== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============0379259946==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Tue Aug 28 09:14:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQ0tb-0002xq-9n; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:15 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQ0ta-0002wS-H3 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:14 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQ0ta-0007fV-2a for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:14 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [??c??p??p[*7IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8058755 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) References: <46CC1E5F.4090508@c4i.gmu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <02A1AEC1-E9F1-410C-B4F9-FD6E34F0FFF1@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:09 -0400 To: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0fa76816851382eb71b0a882ccdc29ac Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Fwd: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org This is for the Monday - Tuesday, and is the cheaper alternative, in terms of hotel rooms. If I don't hear otherwise, I will confirm this tonight. Regards Marshall Begin forwarded message: > From: Shiloh Dorgan > Date: August 22, 2007 7:30:39 AM EDT > To: Mark Pullen > Cc: Marshall Eubanks > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax > > Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September. > Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for directions > or has any questions. > > Shiloh > > Mark Pullen wrote: >> Marshall, >> >> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition: >> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should >> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the >> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up) >> for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there. >> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE bus >> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels >> (see www.gmu.edu for info). >> >> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room >> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available). >> >> Mark >> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> >>> Dear Mark; >>> >>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the >>> Fecframe IETF working group. >>> >>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to >>> >>> ...develop specifications for using >>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the >>> Internet >>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a >>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and >>> unicast. >>> >>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >>> underpinning IPTV. >>> >>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have >>> settled on the week of >>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >>> room for a day and a half, but I would >>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run >>> long. >>> >>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >>> week, and so room availability could determine >>> which two days we meet. >>> >>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ? >>> Basically, we would need a >>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think. >>> >>> Regards >>> Marshall >>> _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Wed Aug 29 14:20:54 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQS9u-0001FN-E6; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:20:54 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQS9t-0001Db-EV for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:20:54 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQS9s-0003LR-PP for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:20:53 -0400 Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Aug 2007 11:20:52 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.19,322,1183359600"; d="scan'208"; a="518453850:sNHT60025138" Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l7TIKqNN013758; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:20:52 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l7TIKgl7000374; Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:20:51 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:20:42 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Fwd: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:20:38 -0700 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D54050B58FA@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <02A1AEC1-E9F1-410C-B4F9-FD6E34F0FFF1@multicasttech.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Fwd: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax Thread-Index: AcfpdVwm5x433VLjQf6rLQZF07UIbAA89Jvw References: <46CC1E5F.4090508@c4i.gmu.edu> <02A1AEC1-E9F1-410C-B4F9-FD6E34F0FFF1@multicasttech.com> From: "Ali Begen \(abegen\)" To: "Marshall Eubanks" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2007 18:20:42.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F043550:01C7EA69] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=3427; t=1188411652; x=1189275652; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1004; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20Begen=20\(abegen\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[FECFRAME-PROTO]=20Fwd=3A=20FECFRAME=20Design=20Meeti ng=20in=20Fairfax |Sender:=20; bh=WQoVDWfgmzkP2VJ97kZcpst6Donnns8DcoEpL3lG898=; b=Z0gyuqs7EBiJkmPU52hKVRmvN/aqmG8qNjW38ko8WbMGKHAu4uYcrSVoJNZseq9xR5B8tSZ6 93IrtQanddd0LRZ0atTMbqq3ZoaIJWvaV2K4aPHC7t5hLTpDcQWAMtaXWHv/HsqbflssXEhzhD AwZMz6wchrzW9GrZeE3Q0aqpE=; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6e922792024732fb1bb6f346e63517e4 Cc: X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Hi Marshall, Did you finalize the place and date? If so, could you let the group know? Thanks, -Ali=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com]=20 > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:14 AM > To: fecframe-proto@ietf.org > Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Fwd: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax >=20 > This is for the Monday - Tuesday, and is the cheaper=20 > alternative, in terms of hotel rooms. If I don't hear=20 > otherwise, I will confirm this tonight. >=20 > Regards > Marshall >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > > From: Shiloh Dorgan > > Date: August 22, 2007 7:30:39 AM EDT > > To: Mark Pullen > > Cc: Marshall Eubanks > > Subject: Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax > > > > Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September. =20 > > Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for=20 > directions or=20 > > has any questions. > > > > Shiloh > > > > Mark Pullen wrote: > >> Marshall, > >> > >> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition: > >> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should=20 > >> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the=20 > >> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up) for=20 > >> parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there. > >> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE=20 > bus provides=20 > >> an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels (see=20 > >> www.gmu.edu for info). > >> > >> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a=20 > room for you=20 > >> (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available). > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > >> > >>> Dear Mark; > >>> > >>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the=20 > >>> Fecframe IETF working group. > >>> > >>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > >>> > >>> ...develop specifications for using > >>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the=20 > >>> Internet to provide protection against packet loss. The=20 > group will=20 > >>> develop a protocol framework for application of FEC codes to=20 > >>> arbitrary packet flows over unreliable transport=20 > protocols over both=20 > >>> IP multicast and unicast. > >>> > >>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology=20 > >>> underpinning IPTV. > >>> > >>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have=20 > >>> settled on the week of September 17th. We estimate that this will=20 > >>> require the use of a room for a day and a half, but I=20 > would like to=20 > >>> secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run long. > >>> > >>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the=20 > entire week,=20 > >>> and so room availability could determine which two days we meet. > >>> > >>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ? =20 > >>> Basically, we would need a > >>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what=20 > you think. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Marshall > >>> >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto >=20 _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 30 05:59:55 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQgoc-0002U9-Qh; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:59:54 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQgob-0002S1-Et for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:59:53 -0400 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQgoa-0001Cb-MU for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:59:53 -0400 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 8379584; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:59:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <46CC1E5F.4090508@c4i.gmu.edu> References: <5F47A4B4-9ED1-4CCD-9A3E-AAB145209977@multicasttech.com> <46CC1E5F.4090508@c4i.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9D139D6F-82C2-4CD3-9CD4-D4E7EAB2251B@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:59:42 -0400 To: Shiloh Dorgan , fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 36c793b20164cfe75332aa66ddb21196 Cc: Mark Pullen Subject: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org OK, having waited for the dust to settle, and having polled the members who wanted the other dates, the Design team meeting will be at George Mason University 17-18 September. Our thanks to GMU for offering the space. Mark, Shiloh, can you recommend a nearby hotel ? Also, we will need directions to the exact site of the meeting. Travel arrangements : Either Dulles (IAD) or National (DCA) airports have easy access to GMU in Fairfax, Virginia. National even has subway (Metro) access - http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm Blue line to the Orange line, Orange line to Vienna, a short cab ride or CUE bus ride to GMU. http://www.fairfaxva.gov/CUEBus/CUEBus.asp I would allow at least an hour for this. A cab ride from National or Dulles will cost order $ 30, maybe more from Dulles. If anyone does not plan to have a car, please let me know. I can pick up a limited number or people on the way in each morning. Like many American suburbs, you will feel limited if you do not have a car, but it is possible. The GMU campus itself is pretty spread out. http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/fairfax.html Baltimore Washington (BWI) is also possible but is a good 1 and 1/2 hour drive away at best and you have to go through or around Washington itself. I would not recommend it unless the flights are really cheap. Be warned that DC has a very strong and typical rush "hour" (~6:30 to 9:00 AM, ~4:00 to 7:00 PM). There will probably be little traffic on Sunday. If people come in early enough Sunday night we should have dinner. Regards Marshall On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote: > Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September. > Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for directions > or has any questions. > > Shiloh > > Mark Pullen wrote: >> Marshall, >> >> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition: >> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should >> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the >> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up) >> for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there. >> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE bus >> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels >> (see www.gmu.edu for info). >> >> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room >> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available). >> >> Mark >> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> >>> Dear Mark; >>> >>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the >>> Fecframe IETF working group. >>> >>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to >>> >>> ...develop specifications for using >>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the >>> Internet >>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a >>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and >>> unicast. >>> >>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >>> underpinning IPTV. >>> >>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have >>> settled on the week of >>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >>> room for a day and a half, but I would >>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run >>> long. >>> >>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >>> week, and so room availability could determine >>> which two days we meet. >>> >>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ? >>> Basically, we would need a >>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think. >>> >>> Regards >>> Marshall >>> _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 30 19:59:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQtvC-0002aJ-AE; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:59:34 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQtvA-0002aB-JB for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:59:32 -0400 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.184]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQtv9-00020j-14 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:59:32 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so256952rvb for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:59:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P3+Tl1Nh3NORQgX9IyqorpGlsO1NoZEx2djSurLj6GXJTXoysnCti5eUrjNRC9ODYVGs+3Y4ME+egjvIRWvMegpbYAwxYfJ6pLZ3VliVdEOAVtQojRi70r+IUmWkBt+/HGRAbF7zzBkfx4aTQGddXjyoDQq52epolyZghNV+ny4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=a2osc+E31sPmJUOm7DkIoeHcmgkvGpgJQ8Trnor8xbRuKRZIYEuv1I6BfUaiehP0682tKDAVY9lqcwgdNQulBWQqy73+7zBj6yDNQ72c8THM8fWOLrkkpna5yN5qhfzkzd9+6PSYf8K+LZJVpwgRQh3liAzp6002tL59tw22iGI= Received: by 10.142.171.6 with SMTP id t6mr48594wfe.1188518368152; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.78.15 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <241bc2150708301659h1e7d2432p3764b2be5dc3fb63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:59:28 -0700 From: "Ulas Kozat" To: "Marshall Eubanks" Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax In-Reply-To: <9D139D6F-82C2-4CD3-9CD4-D4E7EAB2251B@multicasttech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5F47A4B4-9ED1-4CCD-9A3E-AAB145209977@multicasttech.com> <46CC1E5F.4090508@c4i.gmu.edu> <9D139D6F-82C2-4CD3-9CD4-D4E7EAB2251B@multicasttech.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 25eb6223a37c19d53ede858176b14339 Cc: Shiloh Dorgan , Mark Pullen , fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1178667848==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org --===============1178667848== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7346_13178732.1188518368094" ------=_Part_7346_13178732.1188518368094 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Greetings-- I will be arriving late night Sunday and return back on 18th (my reserved flight leaves at 4:45pm from Reagan National). Do we have a tentative schedule/agenda? If the meetings will continue until late evening on 18th, I might change my schedule. Ulas On 8/30/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > OK, having waited for the dust to settle, and having polled the > members who wanted the other > dates, the Design team meeting will be at George > Mason University 17-18 September. Our thanks to GMU for offering the > space. > > Mark, Shiloh, can you recommend a nearby hotel ? > > Also, we will need directions to the exact site of the meeting. > > Travel arrangements : > > Either Dulles (IAD) or National (DCA) airports have easy access to > GMU in Fairfax, Virginia. > > National even has subway (Metro) access - > > http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm > > Blue line to the Orange line, Orange line to Vienna, a short cab ride > or CUE bus ride to GMU. > > http://www.fairfaxva.gov/CUEBus/CUEBus.asp > > I would allow at least an hour for this. A cab ride from National or > Dulles will cost order $ 30, maybe more from Dulles. > > If anyone does not plan to have a car, please let me know. I can pick > up a limited number or people on the way in each morning. Like many > American suburbs, you will feel limited if you do not have a car, but > it is possible. The GMU campus itself is pretty spread out. > > http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/fairfax.html > > Baltimore Washington (BWI) is also possible but is a good 1 and 1/2 > hour drive away at best and you have to go through or around > Washington itself. I would not recommend it unless the flights are > really cheap. > > Be warned that DC has a very strong and typical rush "hour" (~6:30 > to 9:00 AM, ~4:00 to 7:00 PM). There will probably be little traffic > on Sunday. > > If people come in early enough Sunday night we should have dinner. > > Regards > Marshall > > > > > On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote: > > > Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September. > > Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for directions > > or has any questions. > > > > Shiloh > > > > Mark Pullen wrote: > >> Marshall, > >> > >> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition: > >> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should > >> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the > >> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up) > >> for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there. > >> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE bus > >> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels > >> (see www.gmu.edu for info). > >> > >> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room > >> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available). > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > >> > >>> Dear Mark; > >>> > >>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the > >>> Fecframe IETF working group. > >>> > >>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to > >>> > >>> ...develop specifications for using > >>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the > >>> Internet > >>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a > >>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet > >>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and > >>> unicast. > >>> > >>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology > >>> underpinning IPTV. > >>> > >>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have > >>> settled on the week of > >>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a > >>> room for a day and a half, but I would > >>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run > >>> long. > >>> > >>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire > >>> week, and so room availability could determine > >>> which two days we meet. > >>> > >>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ? > >>> Basically, we would need a > >>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Marshall > >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list > FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto > ------=_Part_7346_13178732.1188518368094 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Greetings--

I will be arriving late night Sunday and return back on 18th (my reserved flight leaves at 4:45pm from Reagan National).

Do we have a tentative schedule/agenda? If the meetings will continue until late evening on 18th, I might change my schedule.

Ulas

On 8/30/07, Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:
OK, having waited for the dust to settle, and having polled the
members who wanted the other
dates, the Design team meeting will be at George
Mason University 17-18 September. Our thanks to GMU for offering the
space.

Mark, Shiloh, can you recommend a nearby hotel ?

Also, we will need directions to the exact site of the meeting.

Travel arrangements :

Either Dulles (IAD) or National (DCA) airports have easy access to
GMU in Fairfax, Virginia.

National even has subway (Metro) access -

http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm

Blue line to the Orange line, Orange line to Vienna, a short cab ride
or CUE bus ride to GMU.

http://www.fairfaxva.gov/CUEBus/CUEBus.asp

I would allow at least an hour for this. A cab ride from National or
Dulles will cost order $ 30, maybe more from Dulles.

If anyone does not plan to have a car, please let me know. I can pick
up a limited number or people on the way in each morning. Like many
American suburbs, you will feel limited if you do not have a car, but
it is possible. The GMU campus itself is pretty spread out.

http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/fairfax.html

Baltimore Washington (BWI) is also possible but is a good 1 and 1/2
hour drive away at best and you have to go through or around
Washington itself. I would not recommend it unless the flights are
really cheap.

  Be warned that DC has a very strong and typical rush "hour" (~6:30
to 9:00 AM, ~4:00 to 7:00 PM). There will probably be little traffic
on Sunday.

If people come in early enough Sunday night we should have dinner.

Regards
Marshall




On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote:

> Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September.
> Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for directions
> or has any questions.
>
> Shiloh
>
> Mark Pullen wrote:
>> Marshall,
>>
>> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition:
>> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should
>> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the
>> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up)
>> for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there.
>> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE bus
>> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels
>> (see www.gmu.edu for info).
>>
>> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room
>> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Mark;
>>>
>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the
>>> Fecframe IETF working group.
>>>
>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to
>>>
>>> ...develop specifications for using
>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the
>>> Internet
>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a
>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet
>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and
>>> unicast.
>>>
>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology
>>> underpinning IPTV.
>>>
>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have
>>> settled on the week of
>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a
>>> room for a day and a half, but I would
>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run
>>> long.
>>>
>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire
>>> week, and so room availability could determine
>>> which two days we meet.
>>>
>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ?
>>> Basically, we would need a
>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Marshall
>>>


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------=_Part_7346_13178732.1188518368094-- --===============1178667848== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto --===============1178667848==-- From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 30 20:01:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQtwp-000308-3t; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:01:15 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQtwn-0002zy-ML for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:01:13 -0400 Received: from www.amesweb.com ([216.218.233.126]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IQtwm-00023K-11 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:01:13 -0400 Received: from exchange.amesweb.com ([12.215.108.10]) by www.amesweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1IQtwn-0002gp-00 for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:01:13 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:01:09 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <241bc2150708301659h1e7d2432p3764b2be5dc3fb63@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax thread-index: AcfrYdEWkfgX0TjRSNq66OsU9qjovgAABoYw References: <5F47A4B4-9ED1-4CCD-9A3E-AAB145209977@multicasttech.com><46CC1E5F.4090508@c4i.gmu.edu><9D139D6F-82C2-4CD3-9CD4-D4E7EAB2251B@multicasttech.com> <241bc2150708301659h1e7d2432p3764b2be5dc3fb63@mail.gmail.com> From: "Michael Bany" To: "Ulas Kozat" , "Marshall Eubanks" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a38f40f81e96f7c17c0b6f9de20b7099 Cc: Shiloh Dorgan , Mark Pullen , fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0626164642==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0626164642== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7EB62.093519DB" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7EB62.093519DB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will be arriving late night Sunday and depart out of Reagan National at 5:30 pm on the 18th of September. =20 From: Ulas Kozat [mailto:ulas.kozat@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:59 PM To: Marshall Eubanks Cc: Shiloh Dorgan; Mark Pullen; fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax =20 Greetings-- I will be arriving late night Sunday and return back on 18th (my reserved flight leaves at 4:45pm from Reagan National). Do we have a tentative schedule/agenda? If the meetings will continue until late evening on 18th, I might change my schedule.=20 Ulas On 8/30/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote: OK, having waited for the dust to settle, and having polled the members who wanted the other dates, the Design team meeting will be at George Mason University 17-18 September. Our thanks to GMU for offering the space. Mark, Shiloh, can you recommend a nearby hotel ? Also, we will need directions to the exact site of the meeting. Travel arrangements : Either Dulles (IAD) or National (DCA) airports have easy access to=20 GMU in Fairfax, Virginia. National even has subway (Metro) access - http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm Blue line to the Orange line, Orange line to Vienna, a short cab ride=20 or CUE bus ride to GMU. http://www.fairfaxva.gov/CUEBus/CUEBus.asp I would allow at least an hour for this. A cab ride from National or Dulles will cost order $ 30, maybe more from Dulles.=20 If anyone does not plan to have a car, please let me know. I can pick up a limited number or people on the way in each morning. Like many American suburbs, you will feel limited if you do not have a car, but=20 it is possible. The GMU campus itself is pretty spread out. http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/fairfax.html Baltimore Washington (BWI) is also possible but is a good 1 and 1/2=20 hour drive away at best and you have to go through or around Washington itself. I would not recommend it unless the flights are really cheap. Be warned that DC has a very strong and typical rush "hour" (~6:30=20 to 9:00 AM, ~4:00 to 7:00 PM). There will probably be little traffic on Sunday. If people come in early enough Sunday night we should have dinner. Regards Marshall On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote:=20 > Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September. > Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for directions > or has any questions. > > Shiloh > > Mark Pullen wrote:=20 >> Marshall, >> >> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition: >> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should >> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the=20 >> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up) >> for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there. >> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE bus >> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels >> (see www.gmu.edu for info). >> >> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room=20 >> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available). >> >> Mark >> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> >>> Dear Mark; >>> >>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the=20 >>> Fecframe IETF working group. >>> >>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to >>> >>> ...develop specifications for using >>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the=20 >>> Internet >>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a >>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and >>> unicast. >>> >>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >>> underpinning IPTV. >>> >>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have=20 >>> settled on the week of >>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >>> room for a day and a half, but I would >>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run=20 >>> long. >>> >>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >>> week, and so room availability could determine >>> which two days we meet. >>> >>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ? >>> Basically, we would need a >>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think. >>> >>> Regards >>> Marshall >>> _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7EB62.093519DB Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I will be arriving late night Sunday and depart out of = Reagan National at 5:30 pm on the 18th of = September.

 

From:= Ulas Kozat [mailto:ulas.kozat@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:59 PM
To: Marshall Eubanks
Cc: Shiloh Dorgan; Mark Pullen; fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in = Fairfax

 


Greetings--

I will be arriving late night Sunday and return back on 18th (my = reserved flight leaves at 4:45pm from Reagan National).

Do we have a tentative schedule/agenda? If the meetings will continue = until late evening on 18th, I might change my schedule.

Ulas

On 8/30/07, Marshall = Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> = wrote:

OK, having waited for the dust to settle, and = having polled the
members who wanted the other
dates, the Design team meeting will be at George
Mason University 17-18 September. Our thanks to GMU for offering the
space.

Mark, Shiloh, can you recommend a nearby hotel ?

Also, we will need directions to the exact site of the meeting.

Travel arrangements :

Either Dulles (IAD) or National (DCA) airports have easy access to
GMU in Fairfax, Virginia.

National even has subway (Metro) access -

http://www.wmata.co= m/metrorail/systemmap.cfm

Blue line to the Orange line, Orange line to Vienna, a short cab ride =
or CUE bus ride to GMU.

http://www.fairfaxva.= gov/CUEBus/CUEBus.asp

I would allow at least an hour for this. A cab ride from National or
Dulles will cost order $ 30, maybe more from Dulles.

If anyone does not plan to have a car, please let me know. I can = pick
up a limited number or people on the way in each morning. Like many
American suburbs, you will feel limited if you do not have a car, but =
it is possible. The GMU campus itself is pretty spread out.

http://coyote.gmu.edu/map= /fairfax.html

Baltimore Washington (BWI) is also possible but is a good 1 and 1/2
hour drive away at best and you have to go through or around
Washington itself. I would not recommend it unless the flights are
really cheap.

  Be warned that DC has a very strong and typical rush "hour" (~6:30
to 9:00 AM, ~4:00 to 7:00 PM). There will probably be little traffic
on Sunday.

If people come in early enough Sunday night we should have dinner.

Regards
Marshall




On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote:

> Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September.
> Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for = directions
> or has any questions.
>
> Shiloh
>
> Mark Pullen wrote:
>> Marshall,
>>
>> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one = condition:
>> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you = should
>> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the
>> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone = up)
>> for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay = there.
>> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE = bus
>> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area = hotels
>> (see www.gmu.edu for = info).
>>
>> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room =
>> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Mark;
>>>
>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for = the
>>> Fecframe IETF working group.
>>>
>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to
>>>
>>> ...develop specifications for using
>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in = the
>>> Internet
>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will = develop a
>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to = arbitrary packet
>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP = multicast and
>>> unicast.
>>>
>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of = technology
>>> underpinning IPTV.
>>>
>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), = and have
>>> settled on the week of
>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use = of a
>>> room for a day and a half, but I would
>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case = we run
>>> long.
>>>
>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the = entire
>>> week, and so room availability could determine
>>> which two days we meet.
>>>
>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU = ?
>>> Basically, we would need a
>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what = you think.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Marshall
>>>


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FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list
FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org =
https://ww= w1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto

 

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Regards Marshall On Aug 30, 2007, at 8:02 PM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote: > What times are you planning to meet at GMU both days, so we can be > sure someone will be there to open the doors? > > Shiloh > > Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> OK, having waited for the dust to settle, and having polled the >> members who wanted the other >> dates, the Design team meeting will be at George >> Mason University 17-18 September. Our thanks to GMU for offering >> the space. >> >> Mark, Shiloh, can you recommend a nearby hotel ? >> >> Also, we will need directions to the exact site of the meeting. >> >> Travel arrangements : >> >> Either Dulles (IAD) or National (DCA) airports have easy access to >> GMU in Fairfax, Virginia. >> >> National even has subway (Metro) access - >> >> http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm >> >> Blue line to the Orange line, Orange line to Vienna, a short cab >> ride or CUE bus ride to GMU. >> >> http://www.fairfaxva.gov/CUEBus/CUEBus.asp >> >> I would allow at least an hour for this. A cab ride from National >> or Dulles will cost order $ 30, maybe more from Dulles. >> >> If anyone does not plan to have a car, please let me know. I can >> pick up a limited number or people on the way in each morning. >> Like many American suburbs, you will feel limited if you do not >> have a car, but it is possible. The GMU campus itself is pretty >> spread out. >> >> http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/fairfax.html >> >> Baltimore Washington (BWI) is also possible but is a good 1 and >> 1/2 hour drive away at best and you have to go through or around >> Washington itself. I would not recommend it unless the flights are >> really cheap. >> >> Be warned that DC has a very strong and typical rush >> "hour" (~6:30 to 9:00 AM, ~4:00 to 7:00 PM). There will probably >> be little traffic on Sunday. >> >> If people come in early enough Sunday night we should have dinner. >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote: >> >>> Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September. >>> Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for >>> directions or has any questions. >>> >>> Shiloh >>> >>> Mark Pullen wrote: >>>> Marshall, >>>> >>>> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition: >>>> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should >>>> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the >>>> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up) >>>> for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there. >>>> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE bus >>>> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels >>>> (see www.gmu.edu for info). >>>> >>>> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room >>>> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available). >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Mark; >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the >>>>> Fecframe IETF working group. >>>>> >>>>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to >>>>> >>>>> ...develop specifications for using >>>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the >>>>> Internet >>>>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will >>>>> develop a >>>>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary >>>>> packet >>>>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP >>>>> multicast and >>>>> unicast. >>>>> >>>>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of >>>>> technology underpinning IPTV. >>>>> >>>>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and >>>>> have settled on the week of >>>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >>>>> room for a day and a half, but I would >>>>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we >>>>> run long. >>>>> >>>>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >>>>> week, and so room availability could determine >>>>> which two days we meet. >>>>> >>>>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ? >>>>> Basically, we would need a >>>>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you >>>>> think. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Marshall >>>>> _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto From fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org Fri Aug 31 19:39:09 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRG4z-0001tW-Hi; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:39:09 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRG4x-0001tQ-QL for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:39:07 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRG4w-0006Wn-4S for fecframe-proto@ietf.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:39:07 -0400 Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Aug 2007 16:39:05 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.20,194,1186383600"; d="scan'208,217"; a="16007458:sNHT66128946" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l7VNd5fV005570; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:39:05 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l7VNcdZS000396; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:38:52 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:38:45 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:38:50 -0700 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5405118653@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax Thread-Index: AcfrYdEWkfgX0TjRSNq66OsU9qjovgAABoYwADF4t/A= References: <5F47A4B4-9ED1-4CCD-9A3E-AAB145209977@multicasttech.com><46CC1E5F.4090508@c4i.gmu.edu><9D139D6F-82C2-4CD3-9CD4-D4E7EAB2251B@multicasttech.com><241bc2150708301659h1e7d2432p3764b2be5dc3fb63@mail.gmail.com> From: "Ali Begen \(abegen\)" To: "Michael Bany" , "Ulas Kozat" , "Marshall Eubanks" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Aug 2007 23:38:45.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[1253B070:01C7EC28] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=18687; t=1188603545; x=1189467545; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20Begen=20\(abegen\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[FECFRAME-PROTO]=20Re=3A=20FECFRAME=20Design=20Meetin g=20in=20Fairfax |Sender:=20; bh=kmvah0rxgTdNQVtFJtdWYDCPhU/UQURzo+1Yms8EuIs=; b=nxgxsM9vW97ZagKh2mUbNdSCbO9dcZ5sA98Ym7lhhdqdrmvVca6ExKDfWf9YEuwMB9UQec8A jSiGFIytRpK03JxAaHb1WIHC6UOrtR+MawOxv/v0DOag3O4sZr63GkTG; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 19c92f723dac1bcdd68591cc46e38e95 Cc: Mark Pullen , fecframe-proto@ietf.org, Shiloh Dorgan X-BeenThere: fecframe-proto@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Fecframe protocol design team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1796301636==" Errors-To: fecframe-proto-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1796301636== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7EC28.11F51277" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7EC28.11F51277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will be driving from RTP on Saturday. So, I can join a dinner on Sunday if anybody interested. I'll leave at 8pm on 18th out of DCA. And, we can start at 9am on both days. =20 You all have a nice long weekend. =20 - Ali ________________________________ From: Michael Bany [mailto:mbany@dvblink.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:01 PM To: Ulas Kozat; Marshall Eubanks Cc: Shiloh Dorgan; Mark Pullen; fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax =09 =09 I will be arriving late night Sunday and depart out of Reagan National at 5:30 pm on the 18th of September. =20 From: Ulas Kozat [mailto:ulas.kozat@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:59 PM To: Marshall Eubanks Cc: Shiloh Dorgan; Mark Pullen; fecframe-proto@ietf.org Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: FECFRAME Design Meeting in Fairfax =20 =09 Greetings-- =09 I will be arriving late night Sunday and return back on 18th (my reserved flight leaves at 4:45pm from Reagan National). =09 Do we have a tentative schedule/agenda? If the meetings will continue until late evening on 18th, I might change my schedule.=20 =09 Ulas On 8/30/07, Marshall Eubanks wrote: OK, having waited for the dust to settle, and having polled the members who wanted the other dates, the Design team meeting will be at George Mason University 17-18 September. Our thanks to GMU for offering the space. =09 Mark, Shiloh, can you recommend a nearby hotel ? =09 Also, we will need directions to the exact site of the meeting. =09 Travel arrangements : =09 Either Dulles (IAD) or National (DCA) airports have easy access to=20 GMU in Fairfax, Virginia. =09 National even has subway (Metro) access - =09 http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm =09 Blue line to the Orange line, Orange line to Vienna, a short cab ride=20 or CUE bus ride to GMU. =09 http://www.fairfaxva.gov/CUEBus/CUEBus.asp =09 I would allow at least an hour for this. A cab ride from National or Dulles will cost order $ 30, maybe more from Dulles.=20 =09 If anyone does not plan to have a car, please let me know. I can pick up a limited number or people on the way in each morning. Like many American suburbs, you will feel limited if you do not have a car, but=20 it is possible. The GMU campus itself is pretty spread out. =09 http://coyote.gmu.edu/map/fairfax.html =09 Baltimore Washington (BWI) is also possible but is a good 1 and 1/2=20 hour drive away at best and you have to go through or around Washington itself. I would not recommend it unless the flights are really cheap. =09 Be warned that DC has a very strong and typical rush "hour" (~6:30=20 to 9:00 AM, ~4:00 to 7:00 PM). There will probably be little traffic on Sunday. =09 If people come in early enough Sunday night we should have dinner. =09 Regards Marshall =09 =09 =09 =09 On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote:=20 =09 > Room 320 is reserved for the FECFRAME meeting 17-18 September. > Parking is $8/day. Let me know if anyone needs links for directions > or has any questions. > > Shiloh > > Mark Pullen wrote:=20 >> Marshall, >> >> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting 17-18 Sep, on one condition: >> I must be able to invite my students to listen in. Also you should >> know that while the room will be provided at no cost, the=20 >> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it has not gone up) >> for parking. They should use the parking desk and pay there. >> The alternative is public transport- the Fairfax/GMU CUE bus >> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and area hotels >> (see www.gmu.edu for info). >> >> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking Shiloh to reserve a room >> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if available). >> >> Mark >> >> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> >>> Dear Mark; >>> >>> I am trying to find a place for a design team meeting for the=20 >>> Fecframe IETF working group. >>> >>> Fecframe is a new working group with a charter to >>> >>> ...develop specifications for using >>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in the=20 >>> Internet >>> to provide protection against packet loss. The group will develop a >>> protocol framework for application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet >>> flows over unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and=20 >>> unicast. >>> >>> This has the potential to become an essential piece of technology >>> underpinning IPTV. >>> >>> We need to have a meeting of the design team (6 people), and have=20 >>> settled on the week of >>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require the use of a >>> room for a day and a half, but I would >>> like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run=20 >>> long. >>> >>> At present, I think that everyone is available for the entire >>> week, and so room availability could determine >>> which two days we meet. >>> >>> Do you think that there is any chance we could meet at GMU ? >>> Basically, we would need a >>> conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you think. >>> >>> Regards >>> Marshall >>> =09 =09 _______________________________________________ FECFRAME-PROTO mailing list FECFRAME-PROTO@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe-proto =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7EC28.11F51277 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I will be driving from RTP on Saturday. So, I = can join a=20 dinner on Sunday if anybody interested. I'll leave at 8pm on 18th out of = DCA.=20 And, we can start at 9am on both days.
 
You all have a nice long = weekend.
 
- Ali

From: Michael Bany = [mailto:mbany@dvblink.net]=20
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:01 PM
To: Ulas = Kozat;=20 Marshall Eubanks
Cc: Shiloh Dorgan; Mark Pullen;=20 fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: = FECFRAME=20 Design Meeting in Fairfax

I=20 will be arriving late night Sunday and depart out of Reagan National = at 5:30=20 pm on the 18th of September.

 

From: Ulas = Kozat=20 [mailto:ulas.kozat@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, = 2007 6:59=20 PM
To: Marshall Eubanks
Cc: Shiloh Dorgan; Mark = Pullen;=20 fecframe-proto@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [FECFRAME-PROTO] Re: = FECFRAME=20 Design Meeting in Fairfax

 


Greetings--

I will=20 be arriving late night Sunday and return back on 18th (my reserved = flight=20 leaves at 4:45pm from Reagan National).

Do we have a tentative=20 schedule/agenda? If the meetings will continue until late evening on = 18th, I=20 might change my schedule.

Ulas

On 8/30/07, Marshall = Eubanks=20 <tme@multicasttech.com>=20 wrote:

OK, having waited for the dust to settle, and = having polled=20 the
members who wanted the other
dates, the Design team meeting = will be=20 at George
Mason University 17-18 September. Our thanks to GMU for = offering=20 the
space.

Mark, Shiloh, can you recommend a nearby hotel=20 ?

Also, we will need directions to the exact site of the=20 meeting.

Travel arrangements :

Either Dulles (IAD) or = National=20 (DCA) airports have easy access to
GMU in Fairfax,=20 Virginia.

National even has subway (Metro) access -

http://www.wmata.co= m/metrorail/systemmap.cfm

Blue=20 line to the Orange line, Orange line to Vienna, a short cab ride =
or CUE=20 bus ride to GMU.

http://www.fairfaxva.= gov/CUEBus/CUEBus.asp

I=20 would allow at least an hour for this. A cab ride from National = or
Dulles=20 will cost order $ 30, maybe more from Dulles.

If anyone does = not plan=20 to have a car, please let me know. I can pick
up a limited number = or people=20 on the way in each morning. Like many
American suburbs, you will = feel=20 limited if you do not have a car, but
it is possible. The GMU = campus=20 itself is pretty spread out.

http://coyote.gmu.edu/map= /fairfax.html

Baltimore=20 Washington (BWI) is also possible but is a good 1 and 1/2
hour = drive away=20 at best and you have to go through or around
Washington itself. I = would not=20 recommend it unless the flights are
really = cheap.

  Be=20 warned that DC has a very strong and typical rush "hour" (~6:30
to = 9:00=20 AM, ~4:00 to 7:00 PM). There will probably be little traffic
on=20 Sunday.

If people come in early enough Sunday night we should = have=20 dinner.

Regards
Marshall




On Aug 22, 2007, = at 7:30=20 AM, Shiloh Dorgan wrote:

> Room 320 is reserved for the = FECFRAME=20 meeting 17-18 September.
> Parking is $8/day. Let me know if = anyone=20 needs links for directions
> or has any = questions.
>
>=20 Shiloh
>
> Mark Pullen wrote:
>>=20 Marshall,
>>
>> I'm happy to sponsor the meeting = 17-18 Sep,=20 on one condition:
>> I must be able to invite my students to = listen=20 in. Also you should
>> know that while the room will be = provided at=20 no cost, the
>> participants will need to pay ($7/day if it = has not=20 gone up)
>> for parking. They should use the parking desk and = pay=20 there.
>> The alternative is public transport- the = Fairfax/GMU CUE=20 bus
>> provides an inexpensive shuttle to Vienna Metro and = area=20 hotels
>> (see www.gmu.edu = for=20 info).
>>
>> Assuming the above is OK, I'm asking = Shiloh to=20 reserve a room
>> for you (Shiloh, start with 320 ST2 if=20 available).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On = Sun, 19=20 Aug 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>>
>>> Dear=20 Mark;
>>>
>>> I am trying to find a place for = a design=20 team meeting for the
>>> Fecframe IETF working=20 group.
>>>
>>> Fecframe is a new working group = with a=20 charter to
>>>
>>> ...develop specifications = for=20 using
>>> forward error correction (FEC) codes with = applications=20 in the
>>> Internet
>>> to provide protection = against=20 packet loss. The group will develop a
>>> protocol = framework for=20 application of FEC codes to arbitrary packet
>>> flows = over=20 unreliable transport protocols over both IP multicast and =
>>>=20 unicast.
>>>
>>> This has the potential to = become an=20 essential piece of technology
>>> underpinning=20 IPTV.
>>>
>>> We need to have a meeting of the = design=20 team (6 people), and have
>>> settled on the week=20 of
>>> September 17th. We estimate that this will require = the use=20 of a
>>> room for a day and a half, but I = would
>>>=20 like to secure a room for 2 days in total (9 to 5) in case we run=20
>>> long.
>>>
>>> At present, I = think=20 that everyone is available for the entire
>>> week, and so = room=20 availability could determine
>>> which two days we=20 meet.
>>>
>>> Do you think that there is any = chance we=20 could meet at GMU ?
>>> Basically, we would need = a
>>>=20 conference room or classroom for 2 days. Let me know what you=20 think.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>=20 = Marshall
>>>


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