2009 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:10:21 +0900 From: Kentaro Ogawa Subject: [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-forces-sctptml-07] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings to the list, This is the update for the SCTP-TML draft. It includes the feedbacks from the IESG review. Here are the links: HTML: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-forces-sctptml-07 Text: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-forces-sctptml-07.txt Regards, Kentaro Ogawa. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-forces-sctptml-07 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:02:43 -0800 (PST) From: IETF I-D Submission Tool To: ogawa.kentaro@lab.ntt.co.jp CC: hadi@mojatatu.com A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-forces-sctptml-07.txt has been successfuly submitted by Kentaro Ogawa and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-forces-sctptml Revision: 07 Title: SCTP based TML (Transport Mapping Layer) for ForCES protocol Creation_date: 2009-11-23 WG ID: forces Number_of_pages: 28 Abstract: This document defines the SCTP based TML (Transport Mapping Layer) for the ForCES protocol. It explains the rationale for choosing the SCTP (Stream Control Transmission Protocol) and also describes how this TML addresses all the requirements required by and the ForCES protocol. Status of this Memo This Internet-Draft is submitted to IETF in full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet- Drafts. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. 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The IETF Secretariat. 2009 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:38:41 -0500 From: Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: IETF 76 meeting materials MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Folks, All meeting materials should now be uploaded at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/76/materials.html Scroll down to ForCES. cheers, jamal 2009 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:50:13 +0800 From: "Wang,Weiming" Subject: Re: Outstanding issues with the LFB Lib document MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SGkgYWxsLA0KDQpJdCdzIGNsb3NpbmcgdG8gdGhlIG1lZXRpbmcgZGF0ZS4gSnVzdCBhcyBKYW1h bCBwcm9wb3NlZCwgd2UgbWF5IG5lZWQgdG8gZm9jdXMgb24gdGhlIGlzc3VlIG9uIGhvdyB0aGUg Y29uY2VwdHVhbCBtb2RlbCBpcyBkZXNjcmliZWQgYW5kIGVzdGFibGlzaGVkLiBXZSBtYXkgaGF2 ZSBtb3JlIHRpbWUgZGlzY3Vzc2luZyBvbiBvdGhlciBpc3N1ZXMgYWZ0ZXIgdGhlIG1lZXRpbmcu DQoNClRvZ2V0aGVyIHdpdGggTGlnYW5nLCBGZW5nZ2VuLCBhbmQgQ2h1YW5odWFuZywgSSBwcm9w 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document.=20 The actual problem lies within the xml, as we can't have it externally = from the document and it takes a lot of space. Do you think it is valid to separate the conceptual part and the lfb lib part? I mean, let's have a basic lfb-lib draft with only the xml = specifications inside and then have another draft, using these to create the FE based = on the concept we choose, and allow us more space to create what we deem as necessary for the basic lfb lib draft. Now, on the concept, imho, we should not do something very complex or = very large, and with the above separation, we can have both ports LFBs as = Jamal has specified and do a very basic IP handling issue, including Fenggen's concepts. As I see it, we can describe with generic lfbs (like generic connectivity lfb) a very basic data flow: portIn/interfaceIn -> Validator -> Queue -> Meter -> Classifier -> = Forwarder -> Queue -> portOut/interfaceOut Queue, Validator and Meter LFBs can be empty LFBs that can be used as = basis for inheritance. Then in the Concept document we can create the queue = lfb or what we didn't create in the basic-lfb lib and say this is how an = extension of the library can be done.=20 What do you think? Regards, Evangelos Haleplidis. > -----Original Message----- > From: Forwarding and Control Element Separation > [mailto:FORCES@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of Jamal Hadi Salim > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:50 PM > To: FORCES@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > Subject: Re: =B4=F0=B8=B4: Re: Outstanding issues with the LFB Lib = document >=20 > I am not going to stand in the way of the authors if they decide to go > with IP forwarding. > My stated concern was that the document needs to be piece-meal > readable and allow > someone implementing to do the incremental pieces as needed. If you > decide to do IPV4 > forwarding, then i should still be able to take the base LFBs and > create an ethernet switch > with additional LFB(s). > Doing Ethernet switching + classifier (which is simpler) has some > value in demonstrating for example that > approaches such as openflow could use ForCES as a basis. >=20 > cheers, > jamal >=20 > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:50 AM, wrote: > > I think we have reach some consensus on how to build the LFB lib > document, before Hiroshima we could focus only on conceptual model of > the LFBs, but we still have to decide what packet handling conceptual > model we should focus on, jamal thinks we should start with ethernet > switch, and joel likes to address IP handling?What's other forks = ideas? > I have give a IPv4 forwarding processing model,is there any comments? > > > > Yours,Fenggen