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Hi Bhumip, Evangelos, and Jamal,

Thanks for your work on this draft. As is customary, I have done my AD
review of the draft before asking that it go forward to IETF Last Call.

I have only a few quibbles, so I have advanced this to IETF Last Call.  It
is on the IESG telechat on Sept 3.    Please do respond and update the
draft during IETF Last Call.  As you well know, having authors who are
extremely responsive helps greatly with getting these final steps done.

Minor quibbles:

1) In Sec. 4.4.3, two of the capabilities are described as placeholders.
Can you please clarify what the expected standardized behavior is?  I
imagine that the capabilities are filled out as described - though with
unstandardized information.

2) In Sec. 4.2, could you please provide a reference to the syslog severity
levels?  For instance, the IANA registry (
http://www.iana.org/assignments/syslog-parameters/syslog-parameters.xhtml#syslog-parameters-2
) and/or RFC 3164 would be lovely.

3) In the Security Considerations section, a few words about why it is ok
to trust a CE to create a connection to another CE would be useful.

Thanks,
Alia

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bhumip, Evangelos, and Jamal,<br><br>Thanks for your wo=
rk on this draft. As is customary, I have done my AD review of the draft be=
fore asking that it go forward to IETF Last Call.<br><br>I have only a few =
quibbles, so I have advanced this to IETF Last Call.=C2=A0 It is on the IES=
G telechat on Sept 3. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please do respond and update the draft d=
uring IETF Last Call.=C2=A0 As you well know, having authors who are extrem=
ely responsive helps greatly with getting these final steps done.<br><br>Mi=
nor quibbles:<br><br>1) In Sec. 4.4.3, two of the capabilities are describe=
d as placeholders.=C2=A0 Can you please clarify what the expected standardi=
zed behavior is?=C2=A0 I imagine that the capabilities are filled out as de=
scribed - though with unstandardized information.<br><br>2) In Sec. 4.2, co=
uld you please provide a reference to the syslog severity levels?=C2=A0 For=
 instance, the IANA registry (<a href=3D"http://www.iana.org/assignments/sy=
slog-parameters/syslog-parameters.xhtml#syslog-parameters-2">http://www.ian=
a.org/assignments/syslog-parameters/syslog-parameters.xhtml#syslog-paramete=
rs-2</a> ) and/or RFC 3164 would be lovely. =C2=A0<br><br>3) In the Securit=
y Considerations section, a few words about why it is ok to trust a CE to c=
reate a connection to another CE would be useful. =C2=A0<br><div><br></div>=
<div>Thanks,</div><div>Alia</div></div>

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Hi Damascane and Jamal,

First, thank you for your work on this draft.

As is customary, I have done my AD review of this draft before requesting
IETF Last Call.

As part of this, I see that Evangelos, acting as Document Shepherd, found a
number of issues that are written up in his report - and that still haven't
been addressed two months later.  Picking an IANA value that isn't
available is one of them.  I know these are editorial, but still needed.

At this time, I really don't think this draft is ready to advance.
There are some things that are editorial or clarifications, as I described
below.

Please take some serious time and focus to improve this document if you
want it to progress.

There are two primary major issues.

First, you haven't in any way justified why the inter-FE communication
needs to be encapsulated in an Ethernet frame.  Since you are asking for
the IETF to get an EtherType allocated, that's kind of a bare minimum.

Second, the draft bounces around a lot around whether this is an
encapsulation that is just inside Ethernet or a general encapsulation that
can be inside IP and other things.  Moreover, it doesn't actually describe
the reasoning or handling of the src/dest information and the packets.

You really need to better describe precisely the assumptions, behaviors,
and error handling.


Issues:

1) In Sec 5.1.1:  "The frame may be dropped if there is congestion on the
receiving FE side.  One approach to mitigate this issue is to make sure
that inter-FE LFB frames receive the highest priority treatment
when scheduled on the wire."  This suggestion just destroyed the
possibility of respecting the requested CoS of the encapsulated packet and
probably any actual high priority or EF traffic.   This recommendation must
be fixed.

2) In Sec 6.1.1: One step is " create the outer ethernet header which is a
duplicate of the
      incoming frame's ethernet header.  The outer ethernet header may
      have an optional 802.1q header (if one was included in the
      original frame)."  First, what if the incoming packet wasn't in an
ethernet frame?  POS does still exist.  Second, why would the 802.1q vlan
tag be relevant/valid on the outgoing port in between FEs?   This doesn't
really make sense to me.  I do see the next bullet talks about changing the
vlan tag value but nothing happens if the NEID is 0 or absent.

3) How can the DSTFE be optional???  Why does sending the Ethernet Frame to
the original destination MAC address work?

4) In Sec 6.2, what happens if none of the optional elements of an IFEInfo
are specified?  How can this work if there's no required way to describe
the destination FE?

5) From p. 22, it looks like the IFETable is defined assuming only
transport over Ethernet.

6) Sec 10:  I think you'll find that there are security implications of
taking packets and sending them in an Ethernet packet.  Now, I realize that
the different FEs are probably inside the same device on a private network
- but you need to clarify why that's the case.



Minor Quibble:

a) There are places where this draft talks about other documents being
written.  For instance, on the top of p.13 "For any mapping towards these
definitions a different   document to describe the mapping, one per
transport, is expected to be defined."  It's fine to have a process in mind
- but this is completely unclear, given that the WG is closed.  Are these
documents with a well-known place on-line?  Are these ISE drafts?  Do you
think these would be AD-sponsored or in rtgwg?

b) On the bottom of p. 13, it says "In this version of the specification,
we only focus on data and metadata.  Therefore we are not going to describe
how to carry the ExceptionID information (future versions may). "   PLEASE
go through the document and get rid of these bits of tentative and future
language.  The document is doing and defining what it is.  OWN that and fix
the language everywhere.  (e.g. bottom of p.14 "would save us")


Nits:

1) On p. 6, "This information may include any source and
destination information (MAC address to use, if ethernet;)"  Sadly, I think
the ;) needs to go - what about "e.g. MAC address to use, if Ethernet)".

2) In Sec. 3.1.1, the last paragraph is "The purpose of the inter-FE LFB is
to define standard mechanisms for interconnecting FEs and for that reason
we are not going to touch
   anymore on proprietary chip-chip interconnects other than state the
   fact they exist and that it is feasible to have translation to and
   from proprietary approaches."  is a bit informal.  Could you please
clean it up a bit?
For instance:  "This document defines the inter-FE LFB, a standard
mechanism for interconnecting FEs.  Existing proprietary approaches, such
as chip-chip interconnects, may be able to translate to and from the
standard inter-FE LFB."

3) Sec 4 starts with "We address the inter-FE connectivity requirements by
proposing the inter-FE LFB class."  Remember this will be an RFC - please
replace "proposing" with "defining".  Similarly, the title of "Figure 6:
Packet format suggestion" - is this what the document is standardizing or
not??

Thanks,
Alia

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;P=
T Mono&#39;,Monaco,monospace;font-size:14px;line-height:1.214;background-co=
lor:rgb(255,253,245)">Damascane and Jamal,</span><div><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;PT Mono&#39;,Monaco,monospace;font-size:14px;li=
ne-height:1.214;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></div><div><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;PT Mono&#39;,Monaco,monospac=
e;font-size:14px;line-height:1.214;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">First=
, thank you for your work on this draft.</span></div><div><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;PT Mono&#39;,Monaco,monospace;font-size:14p=
x;line-height:1.214;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></div><di=
v><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=
=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,2=
53,245)">As is customary, I have done my AD review of this draft before req=
uesting IETF Last Call. =C2=A0</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#0000=
00" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-=
height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></fo=
nt></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><=
span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color=
:rgb(255,253,245)">As part of this, I see that Evangelos, acting as Documen=
t Shepherd, found a number of issues that are written up in his report - an=
d that still haven&#39;t been addressed two months later.=C2=A0 Picking an =
IANA value that isn&#39;t available is one of them.=C2=A0 I know these are =
editorial, but still needed.</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000=
" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-he=
ight:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></font=
></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:r=
gb(255,253,245)">At this time, I really don&#39;t think this draft is ready=
 to advance.</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mon=
o, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.99600028=
9917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">There are some things that are ed=
itorial or clarifications, as I described below.</span></font></div><div><f=
ont color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245=
)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Mo=
naco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917p=
x;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">Please take some serious time and focu=
s to improve this document if you want it to progress.</span></font></div><=
div><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;color:rgb(0=
,0,0);font-family:&#39;PT Mono&#39;,Monaco,monospace;background-color:rgb(2=
55,253,245)"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-heigh=
t:16.996000289917px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;PT Mono&#39;,Monaco,m=
onospace;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">There are two primary major iss=
ues.</span><br></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, =
monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;back=
ground-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"=
#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;=
line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">First, you=
 haven&#39;t in any way justified why the inter-FE communication needs to b=
e encapsulated in an Ethernet frame.=C2=A0 Since you are asking for the IET=
F to get an EtherType allocated, that&#39;s kind of a bare minimum.</span><=
/font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace=
"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-co=
lor:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" =
face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-heig=
ht:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">Second, the draft b=
ounces around a lot around whether this is an encapsulation that is just in=
side Ethernet or a general encapsulation that can be inside IP and other th=
ings.=C2=A0 Moreover, it doesn&#39;t actually describe the reasoning or han=
dling of the src/dest information and the packets.</span></font></div><div>=
<font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"=
font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,2=
45)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, =
Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.99600028991=
7px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">You really need to better describe p=
recisely the assumptions, behaviors, and error handling.</span></font></div=
><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255=
,253,245)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT =
Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.99600=
0289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></font></div><div><=
font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,24=
5)">Issues:</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono=
, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289=
917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></font></div><div><font=
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size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">=
1) In Sec 5.1.1: =C2=A0</span></font><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mon=
o, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.99600028=
9917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">&quot;</span></font>The frame may=
 be dropped if there is congestion on the receiving=C2=A0FE side.=C2=A0 One=
 approach to mitigate this issue is to make sure that=C2=A0inter-FE LFB fra=
mes receive the highest priority treatment when=C2=A0scheduled on the wire.=
&quot; =C2=A0This suggestion just destroyed the possibility of respecting t=
he requested CoS of the encapsulated packet and probably any actual high pr=
iority or EF traffic. =C2=A0 This recommendation must be fixed.</div><div><=
br></div><div>2) In Sec 6.1.1: One step is &quot;=C2=A0create the outer eth=
ernet header which is a duplicate of the<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 incoming f=
rame&#39;s ethernet header.=C2=A0 The outer ethernet header may<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 have an optional 802.1q header (if one was included in the<br=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 original frame).&quot; =C2=A0First, what if the incom=
ing packet wasn&#39;t in an ethernet frame?=C2=A0 POS does still exist.=C2=
=A0 Second, why would the 802.1q vlan tag be relevant/valid on the outgoing=
 port in between FEs? =C2=A0 This doesn&#39;t really make sense to me.=C2=
=A0 I do see the next bullet talks about changing the vlan tag value but no=
thing happens if the NEID is 0 or absent.</div><div><br></div><div>3) How c=
an the DSTFE be optional???=C2=A0 Why does sending the Ethernet Frame to th=
e original destination MAC address work?</div><br>4) In Sec 6.2, what happe=
ns if none of the optional elements of an IFEInfo are specified?=C2=A0 How =
can this work if there&#39;s no required way to describe the destination FE=
?<div><br></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monos=
pace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;backgroun=
d-color:rgb(255,253,245)">5) From p. 22, it looks like the IFETable is defi=
ned assuming only transport over Ethernet.</span></font></div><div><font co=
lor=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br=
></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, =
monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;back=
ground-color:rgb(255,253,245)">6) Sec 10: =C2=A0I think you&#39;ll find tha=
t there are security implications of taking packets and sending them in an =
Ethernet packet.=C2=A0 Now, I realize that the different FEs are probably i=
nside the same device on a private network - but you need to clarify why th=
at&#39;s the case.</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"=
PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.99=
6000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></font></div><di=
v><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=
=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,2=
53,245)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mo=
no, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.9960002=
89917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></font></div><div><fo=
nt color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)=
">Minor Quibble:</span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT=
 Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.9960=
00289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)"><br></span></font></div><div>=
<font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"=
font-size:14px;line-height:16.996000289917px;background-color:rgb(255,253,2=
45)">a) There are places where this draft talks about other documents being=
 written.=C2=A0 For instance, on the top of p.13 &quot;</span></font><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;PT Mono&#39;,Monaco,monospace;fo=
nt-size:14px;line-height:1.214;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">For any m=
apping towards these definitions a different</span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0document to=
 describe the mapping, one per transport, is expected to=C2=A0be defined.&q=
uot; =C2=A0It&#39;s fine to have a process in mind - but this is completely=
 unclear, given that the WG is closed.=C2=A0 Are these documents with a wel=
l-known place on-line?=C2=A0 Are these ISE drafts?=C2=A0 Do you think these=
 would be AD-sponsored or in rtgwg?</div><br>b) On the bottom of p. 13, it =
says &quot;In this version of the specification, we only focus on data and =
metadata.=C2=A0 Therefore we are not going to describe how to carry the Exc=
eptionID information (future versions may). &quot; =C2=A0 PLEASE go through=
 the document and get rid of these bits of tentative and future language.=
=C2=A0 The document is doing and defining what it is.=C2=A0 OWN that and fi=
x the language everywhere. =C2=A0(e.g. bottom of p.14 &quot;would save us&q=
uot;)<div><br></div><div><br><div><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"PT Mono, =
Monaco, monospace"><span style=3D"font-size:14px;line-height:16.99600028991=
7px;background-color:rgb(255,253,245)">Nits:</span></font></div><br>1) On p=
. 6, &quot;This information may include any source and destination=C2=A0inf=
ormation (MAC address to use, if ethernet;)&quot; =C2=A0Sadly, I think the =
;) needs to go - what about &quot;e.g. MAC address to use, if Ethernet)&quo=
t;.<div><br></div><div>2) In Sec. 3.1.1, the last paragraph is=C2=A0&quot;T=
he purpose of the inter-FE LFB is to define standard mechanisms for=C2=A0in=
terconnecting FEs and for that reason we are not going to touch<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0anymore on proprietary chip-chip interconnects other than state the<b=
r>=C2=A0 =C2=A0fact they exist and that it is feasible to have translation =
to and<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0from proprietary approaches.&quot; =C2=A0is a bit in=
formal.=C2=A0 Could you please clean it up a bit?<br></div><div>For instanc=
e: =C2=A0&quot;This document defines the inter-FE LFB, a standard mechanism=
 for interconnecting FEs.=C2=A0 Existing proprietary approaches, such as ch=
ip-chip interconnects, may be able to translate to and from the standard in=
ter-FE LFB.&quot;</div><br>3) Sec 4 starts with &quot;We address the inter-=
FE connectivity requirements by proposing the=C2=A0inter-FE LFB class.&quot=
; =C2=A0Remember this will be an RFC - please replace &quot;proposing&quot;=
 with &quot;defining&quot;.=C2=A0 Similarly, the title of &quot;Figure 6: P=
acket format suggestion&quot; - is this what the document is standardizing =
or not??<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Alia<br><br></div></div></div=
>

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=E2=80=8BHi Alia,

Thanks a lot. Yes, we'll do the updates based on
your suggestions, and publish the revised draft soon.

Best.

Bhumip
=E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8B


On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bhumip, Evangelos, and Jamal,
>
> Thanks for your work on this draft. As is customary, I have done my AD
> review of the draft before asking that it go forward to IETF Last Call.
>
> I have only a few quibbles, so I have advanced this to IETF Last Call.  I=
t
> is on the IESG telechat on Sept 3.    Please do respond and update the
> draft during IETF Last Call.  As you well know, having authors who are
> extremely responsive helps greatly with getting these final steps done.
>
> Minor quibbles:
>
> 1) In Sec. 4.4.3, two of the capabilities are described as placeholders.
> Can you please clarify what the expected standardized behavior is?  I
> imagine that the capabilities are filled out as described - though with
> unstandardized information.
>
> 2) In Sec. 4.2, could you please provide a reference to the syslog
> severity levels?  For instance, the IANA registry (
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/syslog-parameters/syslog-parameters.xhtml=
#syslog-parameters-2
> ) and/or RFC 3164 would be lovely.
>
> 3) In the Security Considerations section, a few words about why it is ok
> to trust a CE to create a connection to another CE would be useful.
>
> Thanks,
> Alia
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large" c=
lass=3D"gmail_default">=E2=80=8BHi Alia,</div><div style=3D"font-family:geo=
rgia,serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Than=
ks a lot. Yes, we&#39;ll do the updates based on </div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:georgia,serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">your suggestio=
ns, and publish the revised draft soon.</div><div style=3D"font-family:geor=
gia,serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Best=
.</div><div style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gm=
ail_default">=C2=A0</div><div style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:=
large" class=3D"gmail_default">Bhumip=C2=A0=C2=A0 </div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
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<div><div style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmai=
l_default">=E2=80=8B </div></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser=
if;font-size:large;display:inline" class=3D"gmail_default">=E2=80=8B </div>=
<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Alia Atlas =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akatlas@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">akatlas@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Hi Bhumip, Evangelos, and Jamal,<br><br>Thanks for your work on this dr=
aft. As is customary, I have done my AD review of the draft before asking t=
hat it go forward to IETF Last Call.<br><br>I have only a few quibbles, so =
I have advanced this to IETF Last Call.=C2=A0 It is on the IESG telechat on=
 Sept 3. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please do respond and update the draft during IETF La=
st Call.=C2=A0 As you well know, having authors who are extremely responsiv=
e helps greatly with getting these final steps done.<br><br>Minor quibbles:=
<br><br>1) In Sec. 4.4.3, two of the capabilities are described as placehol=
ders.=C2=A0 Can you please clarify what the expected standardized behavior =
is?=C2=A0 I imagine that the capabilities are filled out as described - tho=
ugh with unstandardized information.<br><br>2) In Sec. 4.2, could you pleas=
e provide a reference to the syslog severity levels?=C2=A0 For instance, th=
e IANA registry (<a href=3D"http://www.iana.org/assignments/syslog-paramete=
rs/syslog-parameters.xhtml#syslog-parameters-2" target=3D"_blank">http://ww=
w.iana.org/assignments/syslog-parameters/syslog-parameters.xhtml#syslog-par=
ameters-2</a> ) and/or RFC 3164 would be lovely. =C2=A0<br><br>3) In the Se=
curity Considerations section, a few words about why it is ok to trust a CE=
 to create a connection to another CE would be useful. =C2=A0<br><div><br><=
/div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Alia</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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