From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Jan 3 07:20:12 2001 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA18700 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06797; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id EAA02996; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2.Beta2+Sun/8.11.2.Beta2) id f03CIjA28393 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2.Beta2+Sun/8.11.2.Beta2) with ESMTP id f03CIcH28386 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.sun.com (saturn.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.2]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id EAA13418 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by saturn.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04977 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA18384; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:18:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101031218.HAA18384@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: (FRNETMIB) I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-01.txt Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:18:34 -0500 Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Frame Relay Service MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for Circuit to Interface Translation Author(s) : R. Steinberger, O. Nicklass Filename : draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-01.txt Pages : 23 Date : 02-Jan-01 This memo defines an extension of the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP-based internets. In particular, it defines objects for managing the insertion of interesting Circuit Interfaces into the ifTable. This memo does not specify a standard for the Internet community. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-01.txt". 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From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Fri Jan 5 14:44:00 2001 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA20834 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.134.6]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29818; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id LAA24877; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:43:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) id f05JgxT00429 for frnetmib-dist; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail3 [129.144.170.5]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f05Jgs600422 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.Sun.COM (venus.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.5]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id LAA05931 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from viva.vivacenet.com (w005.z208036016.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.36.16.5]) by venus.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12384 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMALIS.vivacenet.com [216.112.176.96] by viva.vivacenet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A39A306F026A; Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:42:18 -0800 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010105144105.037bb620@viva.vivacenet.com> X-Sender: Andy.Malis@viva.vivacenet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 14:42:15 -0500 To: minutes@ietf.org, frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) frnetmib final minutes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Here are the final frnetmib minutes. Again, many thanks to Ken for his assistance. Cheers, Andy -------- Frame Relay Service MIB WG (frnetmib) Minutes Chair: Andy Malis Guest Chair: Ken Rehbehn The frnetmib working group met Tuesday, December 12, 2000 from 1700 to 1800. AGENDA: 1. Administrivia, current WG status - The following working group documents have been published as RFCs: RFC 2954, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service RFC 2955, Definitions of Managed Objects for Monitoring and Controlling the Frame Relay/ATM PVC Service Interworking Function RFC 3020, Definitions of Managed Objects for Monitoring and Controlling the UNI/NNI Multilink Frame Relay Function - The working group expects to go into maintenance mode (i.e. just be the email list) once the two on-going working group documents (frmrelay-service and frsi MIBs) are complete. 2. Ken Rehbehn, quick overview of the final revisions to RFC 3020 (was draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-04.txt), Definitions of Managed Objects for Monitoring and Controlling the UNI/NNI Multilink Frame Relay Function Ken presented the major changes to the MFR MIB resulting from the IESG review prior to publication. The main changes were: o A variety of clarifications regarding MIB operation o Changed location from experimental to under mib-2 transmission o Added ranges and descriptions of the meaning of a value -1 o Changed descriptors starting with "bundleXxxx" to "mfrBundleXxx" o Eliminated intermediate nodes mfrMibScalarObjects, mfrMibBundleObjects and mfrMibBundleLinkObjects 3. Rob Steinberger and Orly Nicklass, draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-02.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions (FRF.13) Rob reviewed the changes made since the conclusion of the Working Group Last Call and the Pittsburgh meeting. The major changes included the removal of the free running counters, the merger of the availability and data tables, the use of a consistent prefix for the MIB object names, and new ASCII figures. An additional clarification will be provided in the next version of the MIB (.03) to replace Section 3.6.2. The new text describes 2 half-duplex flows evaluated with a total of 4 reference points. Randy Presuhn recommended use of the term "uni-directional" instead of half-duplex to characterize the flow. The new draft will be published in the next several weeks. The working group consensus is to forward the draft to IETF Last Call following a short review period for the new changes. 4. Rob Steinberger and Orly Nicklass, Rob Steinberger and Orly Nicklass, draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-00.txt, Frame Relay Circuit Interface MIB This MIB provides the ability to generate ifEntries for frame circuits. The motivation is that neither RFC 2115 nor RFC 1604 create ifEntries for DLCIs. RMON requires an ifIndex to monitor a data source, so the RMON WG requested that we do this work during the Adelaide meeting. In addition, routing MIBs (such as the CIDR Routing Table and Net to Media table) require ifIndex to control routing. Without it, you cannot control or display the routing to or on virtual circuits in a non-proprietary manner. There is not a need to create ifIndex for every circuit, but it would be nice to have one for the interesting circuits. Rob described recent changes to the MIB. Frame relay specific terms were changed to allow application of the MIB to ATM connections. A specific ATM example was added to the MIB to illustrate usage in an ATM application. Rob will obtain new ifType codepoints from IANA for both frame relay and ATM connections. He will then publish the updated MIB. The consensus of the working group is that Working Group Last Call should begin when the updated MIB is available. 4. Open discussion There being none, the group adjourned. X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Jan 10 15:12:21 2001 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA25945 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16659; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id MAA10277; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) id f0AK6Od04049 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0AK6I604042 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.Sun.COM (venus.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.5]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id MAA27927 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from viva.vivacenet.com (w005.z208036016.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.36.16.5]) by venus.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29333 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:06:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMALIS.vivacenet.com [10.5.0.222] by viva.vivacenet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A09CAA70410; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:05:48 -0800 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110145146.04025068@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: Andy.Malis@viva.vivacenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:05:47 -0500 To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) WG last call on final two frnetmib work items Cc: atommib@research.telcordia.com, frftc@frforum.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ This begins working group last call on the frnetmib WG's last two work items, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-03.txt, and Definitions of Managed Objects for Circuit to Interface Translation, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-01.txt. Both MIBs are intended to become Proposed Standard RFCs. I cc'ed the atommib list due to the fact that the frsi MIB is applicable for ATM as well as FR. I cc'ed the FRFTC list due to the frmrelay-service MIB being based on FRF.13. FRFTC member comments on the MIB are welcome. Please send all comments to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com ONLY, to prevent email crossposting. If you are not yet on the frnetmib list and would like to be added, in order to see all comments, please send a "subscribe" request to frnetmib-request@sunroof.eng.sun.com, NOT to the mail list. WG last call will conclude in two weeks, 2/24/00. Thanks, Andy ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew G. Malis Andy.Malis@vivacenetworks.com phone:408-383-7223 Vivace Networks/2730 Orchard Parkway/San Jose, CA 95134/fax:408-904-4748 http://www.vivacenetworks.com X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu Jan 11 19:45:04 2001 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id TAA16855 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29334; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id QAA21032; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) id f0C0dLm05487 for frnetmib-dist; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail3 [129.144.170.5]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0C0dG605480 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.sun.com (saturn.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.2]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id QAA20988 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from viva.vivacenet.com (w005.z208036016.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.36.16.5]) by saturn.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21841 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:39:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMALIS.vivacenet.com [10.5.0.222] by viva.vivacenet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A20F13C5003A; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:38:39 -0800 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010111193536.038ad518@viva.vivacenet.com> X-Sender: Andy.Malis@viva.vivacenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:38:37 -0500 To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) No frnetmib meeting planned for Minneapolis Cc: Andy.Malis@vivacenetworks.com, Erik Nordmark , Thomas Narten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ The IETF secretariat is now working on WG scheduling for Minneapolis. Given that our last two work items are currently out for WG last call, I don't foresee a need for us to meet in March. Please let me know if anyone on the list has another opinion. Thanks, Andy ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew G. Malis Andy.Malis@vivacenetworks.com phone:408-383-7223 Vivace Networks/2730 Orchard Parkway/San Jose, CA 95134/fax:408-904-4748 http://www.vivacenetworks.com X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Fri Jan 19 13:46:12 2001 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA04086 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13377; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id KAA09333; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) id f0JIjgt06320 for frnetmib-dist; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:45:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <371D89E63CDFD31195BF009027E33D5CB6FD24@NEWMAN> From: "Hedstrom, Brian" To: "'frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com'" Subject: (FRNETMIB) RFC2954 and Frame Relay Interface Creation Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:14:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ FRS MIB Working Group: After reviewing RFC2954, I have not seen where this MIB provides the ability to create a frame relay interface with ifType=44. THe 'frLportTable' seems to "extend" the ifTable for this interface, but does not provide a RowStatus object for creation of interfaces (and of course the ifTable does not provide this capability either). When you authored this MIB, was it intended that this MIB would provide the ability to 'create' the Frame Relay interface? Or is this done in another RFC (rfc2115 allows it, but for DTE devices)? Or was creation of the interface not even considered? Thanks, Brian Hedstrom ************************************************************* This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, use or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender and delete all copies. ************************************************************* X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu Jan 25 07:29:45 2001 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA24192 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12656; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id EAA01309; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) id f0PCT0P15758 for frnetmib-dist; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail3 [129.144.170.5]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0PCSs215751 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.sun.com (saturn.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.2]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id EAA09767 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from viva.vivacenet.com (viva.vivacenetworks.com [208.36.16.5] (may be forged)) by saturn.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28010 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMALIS.vivacenet.com [24.218.170.135] by viva.vivacenet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB8CAAD03A8; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:26:52 -0800 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010125071517.0393f768@viva.vivacenet.com> X-Sender: Andy.Malis@viva.vivacenet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:26:55 -0500 To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com, Erik Nordmark , Thomas Narten , iesg-secretary@ietf.org From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) End of WG last call on final two frnetmib work items Cc: Andy.Malis@vivacenetworks.com, "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ This completes the working group last call on the frnetmib WG's last two work items, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-03.txt, and Definitions of Managed Objects for Circuit to Interface Translation, http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-01.txt. Both MIBs are now submitted to the IESG to be published as Proposed Standard RFCs. As this also completes all outstanding work items, frnetmib will not meet in Minneapolis. I would like to thank all WG participants, especially the WG's authors and editors and our IESG advisors and reviewers, for their contributions and support. I am very pleased with our results, and I hope that you all are as well. The mailing list will stay alive; feel free to continue to use it for relevant email. Cheers, Andy ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew G. Malis Andy.Malis@vivacenetworks.com phone:408-383-7223 Vivace Networks/2730 Orchard Parkway/San Jose, CA 95134/fax:408-904-4748 http://www.vivacenetworks.com X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu Jan 25 11:31:54 2001 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA03319 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28880; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id IAA19274; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) id f0PGUuu16114 for frnetmib-dist; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.2+Sun/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0PGUo216107 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.Sun.COM (venus.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.5]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id IAA12141 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from megisto-sql1.megisto.com ([63.113.114.132]) by venus.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10077 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by megisto-sql1.hq.megisto.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:27:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ken Rehbehn To: "'Hedstrom, Brian'" Cc: "'frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com'" Subject: RE: (FRNETMIB) RFC2954 and Frame Relay Interface Creation Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:27:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Brian - I authored the latest update of the FRS MIB but I did not participate in the original design and I cannot say exactly what the thoughts of the designers were at the time. However, I do not believe the original intent was to have interfaces created via SNMP. Instead, the service provider would use EMS functions to create the basic "service" for a customer. The FRS MIB is used to allow a customer to then view the service and make tweaks to its operation. Regards, Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Hedstrom, Brian [mailto:BHedstrom@carrieraccess.com] > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:14 PM > To: 'frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com' > Subject: (FRNETMIB) RFC2954 and Frame Relay Interface Creation > > > FRS MIB Working Group: > > After reviewing RFC2954, I have not seen where this MIB > provides the ability > to create a frame relay interface with ifType=44. THe > 'frLportTable' seems > to "extend" the ifTable for this interface, but does not > provide a RowStatus > object for creation of interfaces (and of course the ifTable does not > provide this capability either). > > When you authored this MIB, was it intended that this MIB > would provide the > ability to 'create' the Frame Relay interface? Or is this > done in another > RFC (rfc2115 allows it, but for DTE devices)? Or was creation of the > interface not even considered? > > Thanks, > Brian Hedstrom > > > ************************************************************* > This email may contain confidential and privileged > material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any > unauthorized review, use or distribution by others is > strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient > please contact the sender and delete all copies. > ************************************************************* > > X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with > X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. > X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message.