From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Sep 12 14:36:54 2001 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29992 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27377; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:36:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id LAA06020; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8CIaB49005164 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0/Submit) id f8CIaBQu005163 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:36:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunroof.eng.sun.com: majordomo set sender to owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com using -f Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8CIa849005156 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id LAA27408 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09202 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29961; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200109121836.OAA29961@ietf.org> To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: The IESG Subject: (FRNETMIB) Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for Circuit to Interface Translation to Proposed Standard Reply-to: iesg@ietf.org Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:36:23 -0400 Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ The IESG has received a request from the Frame Relay Service MIB Working Group to consider Definitions of Managed Objects for Circuit to Interface Translation as a Proposed Standard. 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From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Mon Sep 17 19:15:45 2001 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA23940 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24457; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:14:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id QAA23313; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8HNEI7B008757 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0/Submit) id f8HNEIOq008756 for frnetmib-dist; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:14:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunroof.eng.sun.com: majordomo set sender to owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com using -f Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail3 [129.144.170.5]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8HNEE7B008749 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.sun.com (saturn.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.2]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id QAA23289 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:14:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Received: from guinness (mx.last.plus.net [212.159.3.230]) by saturn.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19434 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.159.14.227] (helo=warrior-outbound.services.quay.plus.net) by guinness with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15j7OU-0002Jn-00 for frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:01:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 29238 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2001 23:13:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO NEXUS.replicants.org.uk) (212.56.122.201) by warrior with SMTP; 17 Sep 2001 23:13:53 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by NEXUS.replicants.org.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:13:49 +0100 X-From_: ietf-123-owner@loki.ietf.org Tue Jun 26 15:56:33 2001 Received: from [132.151.1.177] (helo=loki.ietf.org) by imailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 15EuGX-0003ei-00; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:56:33 +0100 Received: (from adm@localhost) by loki.ietf.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id JAA19784 for ietf-123-outbound.10@ietf.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [10.27.2.28]) by loki.ietf.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA18624 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA27321; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106261102.HAA27321@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: (FRNETMIB) I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-03.txt Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:02:50 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2001 23:13:49.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[68A5BE30:01C13FCE] Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Frame Relay Service MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for Circuit to Interface Translation Author(s) : R. Steinberger, O. Nicklass Filename : draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-03.txt Pages : 27 Date : 25-Jun-01 This memo defines an extension of the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP-based internets. In particular, it defines objects for managing the insertion of interesting Circuit Interfaces into the ifTable. This is important for circuits that must be used within other MIB modules which require an ifEntry. It allows for integrated monitoring of circuits as well as routing to circuits using unaltered, pre-existing MIB modules. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frsi-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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This draft is a work item of the Frame Relay Service MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions Author(s) : R. Steinberger, O. Nicklass Filename : draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-05.txt Pages : 64 Date : 25-Jun-01 This memo defines an extension of the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP-based internets. In particular, it defines objects for managing the Frame Relay Service Level Definitions A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-05.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-05.txt". 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From: "Chel Lu" To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20010918115842.TUQW1767.mta07.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I've been hearing that there is renewed interest in frame relay - both in terms of equipment vendors wanting to provide this in their offerings and service providers rolling out new services. Is this true? If true, what drives this renewed interest? My earlier understanding was that frame relay seemed to be moving towards an end as a technology in use with more and more users preferring services such as DSL, ATM, Ethernet-to-the-metro, etc. Any insight will be helpful to understand. Thanks Chel -- Chel Lu (chellu@onebox.com) __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Sep 19 13:22:47 2001 Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06909; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02689; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:19:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id KAA03638; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8JHJ37B013102 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0/Submit) id f8JHJ3rk013101 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunroof.eng.sun.com: majordomo set sender to owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com using -f Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail4 [129.144.134.6]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.12.0+Sun/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f8JHJ17B013094 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.sun.com (saturn.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.2]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id KAA28929 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viva1.vivacenetworks.com ([64.221.212.135]) by saturn.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15789 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viva.vivacenet.com (viva.vivacenetworks.com [10.2.0.5]) by viva1.vivacenetworks.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id TA884TP2; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:18:51 -0700 Received: from AMALIS.vivacenet.com [192.168.168.10] by viva.vivacenet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4181FDD022C; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:21:28 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010919130912.04663668@viva> X-Sender: Andy.Malis@viva X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:18:44 -0400 To: "Chel Lu" From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: Re: (FRNETMIB) What is the reason for some renewed interest in frame relay? Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com In-Reply-To: <20010918115842.TUQW1767.mta07.onebox.com@onebox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Chel, Simply put, Frame Relay services remain very attractively priced when compared to other alternatives, and the market seems to be continuing to grow even in these difficult times. Most FR networks are star-topology VPNs, and most remote tail circuits are still on the lower end of the BW scale: NxDS0 and DS1, although the central sites are moving to DS3 or even faster in some cases. Many services providers also now offer FR/ATM interworking, where the remote sites use FR and the central servers use higher-speed ATM. AT&T is now also offering a separate "IP-Enabled FR" service, which is really IP router interconnection over an MPLS router network using RFC 2547 VPNs; the tail circuits to the customers use IP over FR (RFC 2427), terminate the FR in the first router, extract the IP packets, and route them within the VPN. The advantage to the customer is that they only need a single DLCI to the service provider for any-to-any connectivity in the VPN; the disadvantage is that it only supports IP, rather than all FR-based applications. AT&T still has its traditional FR service as well. I hope this helps. Cheers, Andy ---------- At 9/18/2001 04:58 AM -0700, Chel Lu wrote: >Hello, > >I've been hearing that there is renewed interest >in frame relay - both in terms of equipment vendors >wanting to provide this in their offerings and >service providers rolling out new services. Is >this true? > >If true, what drives this renewed interest? My >earlier understanding was that frame relay seemed >to be moving towards an end as a technology in use >with more and more users preferring services such >as DSL, ATM, Ethernet-to-the-metro, etc. > >Any insight will be helpful to understand. > >Thanks >Chel > >-- >Chel Lu (chellu@onebox.com) > > > >__________________________________________________ >FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. >Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com > >X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with >X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. 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