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Hi all
Is the checksum into the IP header is nessesarily calculated or modules can 
ommit it and save the overhead of recomputing it at meny nodes along the 
route, especially when the IP is being serving a reliable transport protocol 
such as TCP which contains a another checksum for important fields inside 
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 In your previous mail you wrote:

   Is the checksum into the IP header is nessesarily calculated or modules can 
   ommit it and save the overhead of recomputing it at meny nodes along the 
   route, especially when the IP is being serving a reliable transport protocol 
   such as TCP which contains a another checksum for important fields inside 
   the IP header itself?
   
=> the IPv4 header checksum is mandatory. If you believe it is not more
useful on modern networks, just use IPv6 which has no header checksum...

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The IP checksum is mandatory, and changes at each hop as fields such
as TTL are modified.  However, intermediate systems along the forwarding
path don't necessarily need to do a full IP header checksum recalculation.
See RFC 1624, "Computation of the Internet Checksum via Incremental Update".

			-David Borman


> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:11:16 -0500
> From: "Mohammad Awad" <maa1074@hotmail.com>
> To: ftp-wg@hethmon.com
> Subject: Ftp-WG: Why redundant checksum
>
> Hi all
> Is the checksum into the IP header is nessesarily calculated or modules can 
> ommit it and save the overhead of recomputing it at meny nodes along the 
> route, especially when the IP is being serving a reliable transport protocol 
> such as TCP which contains a another checksum for important fields inside 
> the IP header itself?



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Subject: Ftp-WG: Updating the checksum

Hi All,
It's written in RFC1071 that updating the Internet Header Checksum after one 
field (m), had changed, can be carried out this way:
C' = C + (-m) + m' = C + (m' - m)
where C' is the new checksum, C is the old one, m is the old value of the 
field and m' is the new value of it.
However I used the following values as an example to apply the equation and 
found out that something is wrong.
asume that we are calculating the 16 bit checksum for 2 fields m1,m2.

Original values:
m1: 1234
m2: 5678
C, from the definition equation:  9753

After updating m1
m1':1235
m2 :the same
C' from the update equation: 9754
C', from the definition equation: 9752
may be I've some troubles in understanding the application of 1's complement 
summation and subtraction!
Can anyone help please?







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    Date:        Sun, 16 Feb 2003 02:28:26 -0500
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You probably shouldn't be sending questions about IP checksums
to the FTP extensions working group mailing list (we also
probably shouldn't be answering them here).

  | Can anyone help please?

I suspect that 1071 is incorrect, or meant to be interpreted differently
(the C in the example may be meant to be the calculated sum, not the 1's
complement of that which is stored in the checksum field).

But in any case, it is obvious that if you add 1 to a word in the message
you must subtract 1 from the checksum (word, in the message) as the sum
of all words in the message must be 0 for the message to be considered
valid (that it is a 1's complement sum, and a 1's complement "0" is irrelevant
for this - though obviously important for the implementation).

kre




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