From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 7 01:48:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E90828C5A4; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C3E28C5B0 for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.09 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5WUWR1JkPQNA for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yue.st-paulia.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:1b0:1000:202:b3ff:fe26:d7fb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64BF28C56E for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yue.st-paulia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C8833B46; Wed, 7 May 2008 17:48:28 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:48:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20080507.174828.06621709.yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> To: miika@iki.fi, thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com From: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNUhGIzFRTEAbKEI=?= Organization: USAGI Project X-URL: http://www.yoshifuji.org/%7Ehideaki/ X-Fingerprint: 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA X-PGP-Key-URL: http://www.yoshifuji.org/%7Ehideaki/hideaki@yoshifuji.org.asc X-Face: "5$Al-.M>NJ%a'@hhZdQm:."qn~PA^gq4o*>iCFToq*bAi#4FRtx}enhuQKz7fNqQz\BYU] $~O_5m-9'}MIs`XGwIEscw;e5b>n"B_?j/AkL~i/MEaZBLP X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.1 (AOI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: hipsec@ietf.org Subject: [Hipsec] draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04 issues [0/3] X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Hello. I've found several issues in HIP Native API draft (draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04.txt), regarding sockaddr_hip{}, addrinfo{} and definition locations. I'm sorry if I've missed past discussions regarding these issues. Comments follow. -- YOSHIFUJI Hideaki @ USAGI Project GPG-FP : 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 7 01:48:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E4E3A70B0; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA783A6E84 for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.345 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.345 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.744, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hb-v8tCkicAJ for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yue.st-paulia.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:1b0:1000:202:b3ff:fe26:d7fb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF873A6DB3 for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yue.st-paulia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA06533B46; Wed, 7 May 2008 17:48:55 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:48:54 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20080507.174854.02316048.yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> To: miika@iki.fi, thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com From: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNUhGIzFRTEAbKEI=?= Organization: USAGI Project X-URL: http://www.yoshifuji.org/%7Ehideaki/ X-Fingerprint: 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA X-PGP-Key-URL: http://www.yoshifuji.org/%7Ehideaki/hideaki@yoshifuji.org.asc X-Face: "5$Al-.M>NJ%a'@hhZdQm:."qn~PA^gq4o*>iCFToq*bAi#4FRtx}enhuQKz7fNqQz\BYU] $~O_5m-9'}MIs`XGwIEscw;e5b>n"B_?j/AkL~i/MEaZBLP X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.1 (AOI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: hipsec@ietf.org Subject: [Hipsec] draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04 issues [1/3]: sockaddr_hip{}. X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Hello. I found several issues in draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04 Section 4.1. The sockets API extensions define a new protocol family, PF_HIP, and a new address family, AF_HIP. The AF_HIP and PF_HIP are aliases to each other. The use of the PF_HIP constant is mandatory with the socket() function when application uses the native HIP APIs. The application gives the PF_HIP constant as the first argument (domain) to the socket() function. The system returns a positive integer representing a socket descriptor when the system supports HIP. Otherwise, the system returns -1 and sets errno to EAFNOSUPPORT. A HIT is contained in a sockaddr_hip structure, which is shown in Figure 2 in 4.4BSD format. The family of the socket, ship_family, is set to PF_HIP. The port number ship_port is two octets and the ship_hit is 16 octets. #include typedef struct in6_addr hip_hit_t; struct sockaddr_hip { uint8_t ship_len; uint8_t ship_family; uint16_t ship_port; uint64_t ship_flags; hip_hit_t ship_hit; uint8_t reserved[16]; } 7 issues. 1) There is no discussion about sockaddr_hip{} on 4.3BSD-like systems, which has no XXX_len fields. Please see sockaddr_in6{} definitions in RFC3493. 2) Do we really need 64bit "flags" field? If yes, uint64_t should explicitly be aligned on 64bit boundary. Otherwise, implementation will need nasty "compat" layer on 64bit systems for 32bit applications, because of different alignment requirements between 64bit and 32bit mode. Note: sockaddr_in6{} does not have this issue. 3) "reserved" should come with "ship_" prefix as we do in sockaddr_in{}. 4) Address and port should be in network byte order. 5) Use sa_family_t for address family. Use in_port_t for port number. 6) Please use AF_HIP instead. 7) ";" is missing at the end of structure definition. I'd propose the following text. The sockets API extensions define a new protocol family, PF_HIP, and a new address family, AF_HIP. The AF_HIP and PF_HIP are aliases to each other. These definition shall be defined as a result of including . The use of the PF_HIP constant is mandatory with the socket() function when application uses the native HIP APIs. The application gives the PF_HIP constant as the first argument (domain) to the socket() function. The system returns a positive integer representing a socket descriptor when the system supports HIP. Otherwise, the system returns -1 and sets errno to EAFNOSUPPORT. A HIT is contained in a sockaddr_hip structure, which is shown in Figure 2 in 4.3BSD format. The family of the socket, ship_family, is set to AF_HIP. The port number ship_port is two octets in network byte order. and the ship_hit is 16 octets in network byte order. #include typedef struct in6_addr hip_hit_t; struct sockaddr_hip { sa_family_t ship_family; in_port_t ship_port; uint32_t ship_pad; uint64_t ship_flags; hip_hit_t ship_hit; uint8_t ship_reserved[16]; }; An implementation may have extra member(s) in this structure. Regards, -- YOSHIFUJI Hideaki @ USAGI Project GPG-FP : 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 7 01:48:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9F628C5B7; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE01428C59C for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.973 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.973 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.372, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lvzGhqhWq+Qk for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yue.st-paulia.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:1b0:1000:202:b3ff:fe26:d7fb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1093A6E84 for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yue.st-paulia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F90133B46; Wed, 7 May 2008 17:48:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:48:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20080507.174858.122658786.yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> To: miika@iki.fi, thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com From: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNUhGIzFRTEAbKEI=?= Organization: USAGI Project X-URL: http://www.yoshifuji.org/%7Ehideaki/ X-Fingerprint: 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA X-PGP-Key-URL: http://www.yoshifuji.org/%7Ehideaki/hideaki@yoshifuji.org.asc X-Face: "5$Al-.M>NJ%a'@hhZdQm:."qn~PA^gq4o*>iCFToq*bAi#4FRtx}enhuQKz7fNqQz\BYU] $~O_5m-9'}MIs`XGwIEscw;e5b>n"B_?j/AkL~i/MEaZBLP X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.1 (AOI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: hipsec@ietf.org Subject: [Hipsec] draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04 issues [2/3]: addrinfo{}. X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Hello. A few rrors in draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04 Section 4.2. #include struct addrinfo { int ai_flags; /* e.g. AI_EXTFLAGS */ int ai_family; /* e.g. PF_HIP */ int ai_socktype; /* e.g. SOCK_STREAM */ int ai_protocol; /* 0 or IPPROTO_HIP */ size_t ai_addrlen; /* size of *ai_addr */ struct sockaddr *ai_addr; /* sockaddr_hip */ char *ai_canonname; /* canon. name of the host */ struct addrinfo *ai_next; /* next endpoint */ int ai_eflags; /* RFC5014 extension */ }; Definitions are not consistent with RFC3493 nor with RFC5014. Please replace PF_HIP with AF_HIP, and replace size_t with socklen_t. (Please check other occurences of PF_HIP as well.) Regards, -- YOSHIFUJI Hideaki @ USAGI Project GPG-FP : 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 7 01:48:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219CF28C573; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E0B28C58C for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.849 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.849 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jTSIUIbRmLkA for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yue.st-paulia.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:1b0:1000:202:b3ff:fe26:d7fb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB78D28C56E for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 01:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yue.st-paulia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7E233B46; Wed, 7 May 2008 17:49:06 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:49:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20080507.174905.94448213.yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> To: miika@iki.fi, thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com From: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNUhGIzFRTEAbKEI=?= Organization: USAGI Project X-URL: http://www.yoshifuji.org/%7Ehideaki/ X-Fingerprint: 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA X-PGP-Key-URL: http://www.yoshifuji.org/%7Ehideaki/hideaki@yoshifuji.org.asc X-Face: "5$Al-.M>NJ%a'@hhZdQm:."qn~PA^gq4o*>iCFToq*bAi#4FRtx}enhuQKz7fNqQz\BYU] $~O_5m-9'}MIs`XGwIEscw;e5b>n"B_?j/AkL~i/MEaZBLP X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.1 (AOI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: hipsec@ietf.org Subject: [Hipsec] draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04 issues [3/3]: Summary of new definitions. X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Hello. Several issues in draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04 Section 5. Table 4 summarizes the new macro and structures defined in this document. +-----------------+-----------------------------+ | Header | Definition | +-----------------+-----------------------------+ | | PF_HIP | | | AF_HIP | | | IPPROTO_HIP | | | HIP_HIT_ANY | | | HIP_HIT_ANY_PUB | | | HIP_HIT_ANY_TMP | | | HIP_ADDR_ANY | | | HIP_HIT_PREFERENCES | | | hip_hit_t | | | HIP_PREFER_ORCHID | | | HIP_PREFER_SRC_TMP | | | HIP_PREFER_SRC_PUBLIC | | | HIP_PREFER_PASSIVE_HIT_TMP | | | HIP_PREFER_PASSIVE_HIT_PUB | | | HIP_PREFER_PASSIVE_HIT_ANY | | | HIP_PREFER_PASSIVE_ADDR_ANY | | | sockaddr_hip | | | sockaddr_is_srcaddr | +-----------------+-----------------------------+ sockaddr_hip{} is defined in netinet/in.h, while hip_hit_t is defined in netinet/hip.h. So, netinet/in.h needs to include netinet/hip.h not to break existing applications. Why not move all definitions in netinet/hip.h into netinet/in.h? Or, move sockaddr_hip{} and sockaddr_is_srcaddr() to netinet/hip.h. -- YOSHIFUJI Hideaki @ USAGI Project GPG-FP : 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 7 02:45:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063FE3A6BEC; Wed, 7 May 2008 02:45:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B303A6BEC for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 02:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cGaJOamVoYlD for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 02:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twilight.cs.hut.fi (twilight.cs.hut.fi [130.233.40.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAC23A68CB for ; Wed, 7 May 2008 02:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twilight.cs.hut.fi (Postfix, from userid 60001) id A7A803041; Wed, 7 May 2008 12:45:42 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Niksula: No Received: from kekkonen (kekkonen.cs.hut.fi [130.233.41.50]) by twilight.cs.hut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8E03025; Wed, 7 May 2008 12:45:41 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:45:41 +0300 (EEST) From: Miika Komu X-X-Sender: mkomu@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi To: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNUhGIzFRTEAbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20080507.174828.06621709.yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> Message-ID: References: <20080507.174828.06621709.yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-1210153541=:17745" Cc: hipsec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Hipsec] draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04 issues [0/3] X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-1903590565-1210153541=:17745 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 7 May 2008, YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / µÈÆ£±ÑÌÀ wrote: Hi, good catches. You'll see the changes in the next version of the draft. Thanks! > Hello. > > I've found several issues in HIP Native API draft > (draft-ietf-hip-native-api-04.txt), regarding > sockaddr_hip{}, addrinfo{} and definition locations. > > I'm sorry if I've missed past discussions regarding these > issues. > > Comments follow. > > -- > YOSHIFUJI Hideaki @ USAGI Project > GPG-FP : 9022 65EB 1ECF 3AD1 0BDF 80D8 4807 F894 E062 0EEA > -- Miika Komu http://www.iki.fi/miika/ ---559023410-1903590565-1210153541=:17745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec ---559023410-1903590565-1210153541=:17745-- From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 14 03:12:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAFA3A687F; Wed, 14 May 2008 03:12:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAEA3A6855 for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 03:12:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mLuu1ocrjVHj for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 03:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.helsinki.fi (courier.cs.helsinki.fi [128.214.9.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2427D3A67F7 for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 03:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.214.113.227] (trager.pc.hiit.fi [128.214.113.227]) (AUTH: PLAIN gurtov, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by mail.cs.helsinki.fi with esmtp; Wed, 14 May 2008 13:11:07 +0300 id 00087BEA.482ABABB.000077D0 Message-ID: <482ABABB.9040602@cs.helsinki.fi> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:11:07 +0300 From: Andrei Gurtov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HIP X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Subject: [Hipsec] IETF 72? X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Is HIP WG planning to meet at IETF 72 in Dublin? HIP RG has tentatively requested a slot there. Andrei - --- Just out: Host Identity Protocol (HIP): Towards the Secure Mobile Internet http://eu.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470997907.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgqursACgkQP7jp0uceFkTnXACcCplO+Txl6CB5v0GDvPGMt3YX v0gAoNgVwK/67CwCe75yWKbXLJFtxbS6 =N949 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Wed May 14 05:29:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8643A68A8; Wed, 14 May 2008 05:29:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E2F3A68A8 for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.035 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.035 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.214, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1b-PQfZonojA for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 05:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C271D3A68FA for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 05:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 445322179D; Wed, 14 May 2008 14:29:01 +0200 (CEST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-ae198bb000004ec0-42-482adb0d0eb5 Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.124]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 2BDF4216B8; Wed, 14 May 2008 14:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.171]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 May 2008 14:29:00 +0200 Received: from [131.160.37.21] ([131.160.37.21]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 May 2008 14:29:00 +0200 Message-ID: <482ADB0C.2000903@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:29:00 +0300 From: Gonzalo Camarillo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrei Gurtov References: <482ABABB.9040602@cs.helsinki.fi> In-Reply-To: <482ABABB.9040602@cs.helsinki.fi> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2008 12:29:00.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[164FC780:01C8B5BE] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: HIP Subject: Re: [Hipsec] IETF 72? X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Hi, yes, we have requested a slot to meet in Dublin. Cheers, Gonzalo Andrei Gurtov wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > Is HIP WG planning to meet at IETF 72 in Dublin? > HIP RG has tentatively requested a slot there. > > Andrei > > - --- > Just out: Host Identity Protocol (HIP): > Towards the Secure Mobile Internet > http://eu.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470997907.html > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkgqursACgkQP7jp0uceFkTnXACcCplO+Txl6CB5v0GDvPGMt3YX > v0gAoNgVwK/67CwCe75yWKbXLJFtxbS6 > =N949 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Hipsec mailing list > Hipsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec > _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Mon May 19 02:14:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1530528C236; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:14:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8670F28C151; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:14:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v5xazMRI+cGV; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FEE3A6C96; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.piuha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425BD1986E3; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:14:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by smtp.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DB01986D7; Mon, 19 May 2008 12:14:44 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <48314505.1030103@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:14:45 +0300 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Internet Area , HIP References: <9C940D0F-BB69-4D16-A293-9087D9E9A30B@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <9C940D0F-BB69-4D16-A293-9087D9E9A30B@nokia.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: [Hipsec] Fwd: non-SIP usage of ICE X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org This should be of interest for INT area folks as well: Begin forwarded message: > From: Lars Eggert > Date: May 19, 2008 12:03:53 GMT+03:00 > To: TSV Area > Subject: non-SIP usage of ICE > > Hi, > > the MMUSIC WG is discussing whether they should take on a work item > on using ICE in non-SIP/RTP environments. This subset of ICE > specified in draft-rosenberg-mmusic-ice-nonsip (called NICE) would > be a general-purpose NAT traversal mechanism, and is for example > being considered by the HIP WG as a NAT traversal solution for HIP. > > I strongly encourage transport-area folks to join this discussion on > the MMUSIC mailing list. The proponents of ICE argue to develop it > into the IETF-preferred NAT traversal protocol, for which it IMO is > currently not sufficiently developed. > > There are some challenges here that are of immediate interest to > transport folks. One is that ICE-for-SIP had been pacing its > connectivity checks such that they use bandwidth in way that is not > more aggressive than a following RTP media stream. With NICE, this > approach is no longer possible, because NICE has no knowledge of the > transmission behavior of arbitrary flows. > > Another is that if NICE chooses candidates that it has obtained via > STUN and TURN, non-RTP traffic may be tunneled through such relays, > which is currently (at least to me) not a well-understood operation. > > Because ICE handles gathering of candidate IP addresses and ports, > it is undefined how ICE/NICE would intersect with layer-3 mobility > and multihoming solutions, or transport protocols like SCTP. > > Finally, ICE has so far mostly focused on relaying UDP traffic, with > a draft on relaying TCP still under WG discussion (draft-ietf-mmusic- > ice-tcp), which so far is still SIP/RTP-specific. There is currently > no possibility to relay SCTP or DCCP with ICE. > > Lars _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list Hipsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From hipsec-bounces@ietf.org Mon May 26 06:06:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hip-archive@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-hip-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409F83A67F2; Mon, 26 May 2008 06:06:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278903A6851 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 06:06:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XwXu72tfpI0g for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 06:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.182.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E821D3A67D9 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 06:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7512 invoked by uid 60001); 26 May 2008 13:06:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pV6UqKe2sEOZ4ShPYOuRC9XRuDzSF0R3N/JgkzL1R8X/i8zOcG0ewCIFrV0hMDnCQ0+2m3Eb1SMNJb8cYI51nP9VG027FMHNJg0OBZ/VgH2fqw6/blus21FMhxg/Jmu+oAuOSVnbIZIqcDVgWrKZx7uh8seKbycumbqn8lMm5Ec=; X-YMail-OSG: VpEzHz8VM1k0oKDLxVwqGUkimwuEm5wkX15YwWVnl8ResFTNgRGJlVAFHexF3O02B0lz2NhkyyRyMZWMjbGm.lhAKKahW44a0A-- Received: from [157.159.100.213] by web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:06:17 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:06:17 +0000 (GMT) From: nahla abid To: hipsec@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <825209.7182.qm@web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: [Hipsec] HIP implementations X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: carla19_carla19@yahoo.fr List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." 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