From thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com Mon Jun 6 07:33:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BB811E8153 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:33:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dcm-f169QKWQ for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com (slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.64.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E8511E8146 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (slb-av-01.boeing.com [129.172.13.4]) by slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/8.14.4/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id p56EX6pA025645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p56DPuFJ007831 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NWHT-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwht-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.25.114]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p56DPuKu007818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.85]) by XCH-NWHT-11.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.114]) with mapi; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:33:05 -0700 From: "Henderson, Thomas R" To: "hiprg@irtf.org" Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:33:04 -0700 Thread-Topic: HIPRG meeting at IETF 81 Thread-Index: AcwkVqUhw2nVH+xNRImW72Xb3hJBXw== Message-ID: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71924@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [hiprg] HIPRG meeting at IETF 81 X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:33:12 -0000 I've put in a request for scheduling a HIPRG meeting in Quebec City. Besid= es trying to progress the current RG drafts, could people please submit (to= the list) requests for agenda slots? After the Prague meeting, a few people had some informal discussions about = possibly using HIPRG meeting time to conduct or review demos or other imple= mentation aspects. If anyone is planning such an activity, please let us k= now and start to coordinate. - Tom From thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com Mon Jun 6 07:49:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F2B11E814D for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:49:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VyzC-CTnBLAf for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.96.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7D711E8145 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (stl-av-01.boeing.com [192.76.190.6]) by stl-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/8.14.4/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id p56EmmTm020818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p56EmmgJ005031; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:48:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from XCH-NWHT-02.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwht-02.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.70.248]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p56EmlCr005003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:48:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.85]) by XCH-NWHT-02.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.70.248]) with mapi; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:48:47 -0700 From: "Henderson, Thomas R" To: "hiprg@irtf.org" Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:48:47 -0700 Thread-Topic: HIPRG charter discussion Thread-Index: AcwbdHKRVBFnMmtlTNKxL9WSddMpLQATwbNwAiShFbAAAJiHoAAAAWkAAAANkXA= Message-ID: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71928@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'irtf-chair@irsg.org'" Subject: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:49:07 -0000 With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item sinc= e the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the = RG. Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define = some new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play rel= ative to the WG.=20 These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community and fo= r HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For instance, participation drawn from more than a single institution or country. Can we try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would like to= see whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the me= eting. - Tom From xuxh@huawei.com Mon Jun 6 20:32:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45A41F0C4A for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:32:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.81 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.81 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CN_BODY_35=0.339, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KmB-m0u9Iwn8 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga03-in.huawei.com (szxga03-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905251F0C46 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga03-in [172.24.2.9]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LME00CCFHQBNT@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for hiprg@irtf.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:30:12 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LME0073ZHQB65@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for hiprg@irtf.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:30:11 +0800 (CST) Received: from x41208c ([10.110.98.38]) by szxml04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0LME00BO2HQBPC@szxml04-in.huawei.com> for hiprg@irtf.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:30:11 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:40:08 +0800 From: Xu Xiaohu In-reply-to: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71928@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> To: "'Henderson, Thomas R'" , hiprg@irtf.org Message-id: <005601cc24c4$99060400$cb120c00$@com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-language: zh-cn Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thread-index: AcwbdHKRVBFnMmtlTNKxL9WSddMpLQATwbNwAiShFbAAAJiHoAAAAWkAAAANkXAAGEFK8A== References: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71928@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> Cc: irtf-chair@irsg.org Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 03:32:35 -0000 Hi Tom and all, I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new = charter item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical = HITs from the commercial deployment perspectives: First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management = service systems could be operated by different countries and different operators with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business = models, just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the = home address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs = of the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs = in the existing DNS infrastructure. Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP. = For instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via = provider-owned HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since = the hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary, ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such = flat identifiers. There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 By the way, we have implemented the RANGI (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented = structure. Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City. Best regards, Xiaohu > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org = [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED > Henderson, Thomas R > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2011=C4=EA6=D4=C26=C8=D5 22:49 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: hiprg@irtf.org > =B3=AD=CB=CD: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org' > =D6=F7=CC=E2: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >=20 > With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item since > the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of = the RG. > Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define = some > new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play relative to > the WG. >=20 > These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: > - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community = and for > HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? > - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For = instance, > participation drawn from more than a single institution or country. = Can we > try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? >=20 > We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would = like to see > whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the meeting. >=20 > - Tom > _______________________________________________ > hiprg mailing list > hiprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg From gurtov@hiit.fi Tue Jun 14 02:43:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB45C21F8519 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:43:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F-qtaBCy9o8a for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from argo.otaverkko.fi (argo.otaverkko.fi [212.68.0.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E254E21F84F9 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.43.1.101] (unknown [94.42.88.36]) by argo.otaverkko.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190D325EE46; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:43:35 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4DF72D48.10007@hiit.fi> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:43:36 +0300 From: Andrei Gurtov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xu Xiaohu References: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71928@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> <005601cc24c4$99060400$cb120c00$@com> In-Reply-To: <005601cc24c4$99060400$cb120c00$@com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: irtf-chair@irsg.org, hiprg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:43:38 -0000 Hei Xiaohu, That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you think of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University? Andrei Xu Xiaohu wrote: > Hi Tom and all, > > I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new charter > item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical HITs > from the commercial deployment perspectives: > > First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator > mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a > hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management service > systems could be operated by different countries and different operators > with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business models, > just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the home > address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS > infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs of > the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs in > the existing DNS infrastructure. > > Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP. For > instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via provider-owned > HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since the > hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary, > ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable > business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such flat > identifiers. > > There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about > hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 > > By the way, we have implemented the RANGI > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a > hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented structure. > Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and > verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City. > > Best regards, > Xiaohu > > >> -----邮件原件----- >> 发件人: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] 代表 >> Henderson, Thomas R >> 发送时间: 2011年6月6日 22:49 >> 收件人: hiprg@irtf.org >> 抄送: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org' >> 主题: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >> >> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item > since >> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the > RG. >> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define some >> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play > relative to >> the WG. >> >> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: >> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community and > for >> HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? >> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For instance, >> participation drawn from more than a single institution or country. Can > we >> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? >> >> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would like > to see >> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the > meeting. >> - Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> hiprg mailing list >> hiprg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg > > _______________________________________________ > hiprg mailing list > hiprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg From sunethnamal@yahoo.com Thu Jun 23 01:32:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B1111E8077 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:32:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25SXZSmwPJwr for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.187]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6938911E809B for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2011 08:32:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.225] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2011 08:32:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2011 08:32:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 70829.46967.bm@omp1034.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 62101 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jun 2011 08:32:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308817946; bh=LU0NIfyLeJ29qqGuopmOSDKtM5dkN577CjV32R00p+I=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OeY7pQTHEldZKVDtSsnTvkTzHrGJxsw7TbO+u26I08L44x648XLcRg/YOsl4fyutN5yB3/LOpjDAUShQIztgpYsMNABA+ureGOwJL5bhg1C3vQZ0r6QOdFVAlvCiMjPg4zcHXxuHaW96BGBMShcdnUeMLq3I9I2JMqlj+zF61Sw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XDRAp71tC+U+MVBeRESDgmk7r3deufLTeFnRWimX4WgMEf+g7Diurrkll3LE7BW+AAJFYmLmVkMTDXFMjU9doN57JYyR8wF8CEZvh3QAPQEbKsOG7XfpOd5IdG+Oj87LHBZVg7wAsncz93CpAngy/6/YkP++DW/8ImR1jPoG7qk=; X-YMail-OSG: yFK_RpcVM1mcoQgYH2OtArVjUTswwXJLdUi8sJC1_yUjzDS cYGYhhJTBCW.KBjGTqp.AImJiYNTY7Rk98CNVX1YveKvwcfjTjPBLiSuXUtk frTGUd6LPOLrg7iJinXMDsZCfnD0OdY.NqFltSlxItwVlrSuTrrAQT.V51qt IeayY02blnX8QKtLpdEnzaWNeP7m8vwNmccEj2ESzEGXpMDL01Q9buKckmRL u3hLiosllBJIm3MHrsGD58O0b9t.sOEap4uv4kokvjsct1IAhTF5.vclQKnH DcCDiObE5F7Ayz28Hi6RzaDjTDCpxb7xdIuHZ8PWY_JR71s7EPQlo_d7kw1P Nh1hGZUFbuxQNCz87nvdfHlQld0aGZHzSNoIewF_I5j0f7He.fh4i7OQ- Received: from [130.231.240.27] by web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:32:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/572 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1308817946.46814.YahooMailRC@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:32:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Suneth Namal To: hiprg@irtf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1945750537-1308817946=:46814" Subject: [hiprg] Request for a slot in IETF'81, Canada X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:32:34 -0000 --0-1945750537-1308817946=:46814 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear All, I am a PhD student from university of Oulu, Finland. My thesis is to investigate the possibility to adapt HIP in femtocell technology to improve the security and mobility issues in femtocell communication. I have proposed a scheme to use HIP with 3GPP femtocells that provides more security and flexibility in mobility. Location based and DDoS attacks are mostly common with femtocells. HIP has interesting properties that can help to improve performance in femtocell communication. I am planning to participate IETF'81. It is my pleasure to present these ideas in the IETF'81, Canada. Could it be possible to get a time slot to introduce myself and the progress in my work? Thank you, Best Regards, Suneth Namal --0-1945750537-1308817946=:46814 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Dear All,


I am a PhD student from university of Oulu, Finland.

My thesis is to investigate the possibility to adapt HIP in femtocell technology to improve the security and mobility issues in femtocell communication. 
I have proposed a scheme to use HIP with 3GPP femtocells that provides more security and flexibility in mobility. Location based and DDoS attacks are mostly common with femtocells. HIP has interesting properties that can help to improve performance in femtocell communication. 

I am planning to participate IETF'81. It is my pleasure to present these ideas in the IETF'81, Canada. Could it be possible to get a time slot to introduce myself and the progress in my work?


Thank you,

Best Regards,
Suneth Namal


--0-1945750537-1308817946=:46814-- From thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com Thu Jun 23 08:48:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3349411E811A for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:48:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nnjlf1Hs0bHa for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.96.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3B311E80F1 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (stl-av-01.boeing.com [192.76.190.6]) by stl-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/8.14.4/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id p5NFmmOO022735 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:48:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with SMTP id p5NFmmjJ015624 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:48:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from XCH-NWHT-09.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwht-09.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.25.115]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p5NFmbq3015323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:48:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.85]) by XCH-NWHT-09.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.115]) with mapi; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:48:36 -0700 From: "Henderson, Thomas R" To: "'Suneth Namal'" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:48:36 -0700 Thread-Topic: [hiprg] Request for a slot in IETF'81, Canada Thread-Index: AcwxgBvZcJSnmD6KQqy1E8k4Hbe+QQAPLMyg Message-ID: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71AB8@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1308817946.46814.YahooMailRC@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1308817946.46814.YahooMailRC@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71AB8XCHNW10Vnwnos_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "hiprg@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [hiprg] Request for a slot in IETF'81, Canada X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:48:58 -0000 --_000_7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71AB8XCHNW10Vnwnos_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Suneth, I will add your presentation to the agenda. - Tom From: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of S= uneth Namal Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:32 AM To: hiprg@irtf.org Subject: [hiprg] Request for a slot in IETF'81, Canada Dear All, I am a PhD student from university of Oulu, Finland. My thesis is to investigate the possibility to adapt HIP in femtocell techn= ology to improve the security and mobility issues in femtocell communicatio= n. I have proposed a scheme to use HIP with 3GPP femtocells that provides more= security and flexibility in mobility. Location based and DDoS attacks are = mostly common with femtocells. HIP has interesting properties that can help= to improve performance in femtocell communication. I am planning to participate IETF'81. It is my pleasure to present these id= eas in the IETF'81, Canada. Could it be possible to get a time slot to intr= oduce myself and the progress in my work? Thank you, Best Regards, Suneth Namal --_000_7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71AB8XCHNW10Vnwnos_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Suneth,

I will add your presentatio= n to the agenda.

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- Tom

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From: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf= .org] On Behalf Of Suneth Namal
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2= 011 1:32 AM
To: hiprg@irtf.org
Subject: [hiprg] Request= for a slot in IETF'81, Canada

 


Dear All,

I am a PhD student from university of Oulu= , Finland.

My thesis is to invest= igate the possibility to adapt HIP in femtocell technology to improve the s= ecurity and mobility issues in femtocell communication. 
I have proposed a scheme to use HIP with 3GPP femt= ocells that provides more security and flexibility in mobility. Location ba= sed and DDoS attacks are mostly common with femtocells. HIP has interesting= properties that can help to improve performance in femtocell communication= . 

I am planning to particip= ate IETF'81. It is my pleasure to present these ideas in the IETF'81, Canad= a. Could it be possible to get a time slot to introduce myself and the prog= ress in my work?


Thank you,

Best Regards,
Suneth Namal

= --_000_7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71AB8XCHNW10Vnwnos_-- From thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com Sat Jun 25 15:15:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971BF11E8123 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.399, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A9cGHSFRXwI9 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com (blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.32.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F120411E811F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com (blv-av-01.boeing.com [130.247.48.231]) by blv-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/8.14.4/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id p5PMFp0Z025069 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p5PMFpOj025469; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NWHT-05.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwht-05.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.25.109]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p5PMFpOk025466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.85]) by XCH-NWHT-05.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.109]) with mapi; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:48 -0700 From: "Henderson, Thomas R" To: "hiprg@irtf.org" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:47 -0700 Thread-Topic: IRSG review of draft-irtf-hip-experiment Thread-Index: AcwwIlZ4ER2xrt4hTyG57Kt6k2x0uwDYqtIQ Message-ID: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71AD4@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Martin Stiemerling Subject: [hiprg] FW: IRSG review of draft-irtf-hip-experiment X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:15:53 -0000 Please see below Martin Stiemerling's IRSG review of the HIP Experiment dra= ft. We will address these comments on the list and, once all comments are = addressed, will initiate an IRSG Poll on the revised document. - Tom -----Original Message----- From: irsg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:irsg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Mar= tin Stiemerling Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:49 AM To: irsg@irtf.org Subject: [irsg] IRSG review of draft-irtf-hip-experiment Dear all, Here is my review of draft-irtf-hip-experiment-12.=20 The draft is basically fine and it provides an excellent overview about the= HIP experiments, their outcomes, and lessons learnt.=20 There are a few nits: - Section 1, Introduction: The draft -12 dates May 2011, but the intro says it compiles data from 2004= to 2009. Wasn't there any further work until May 2011? - Section 2.1, Figure 1: It is not clear from the figure what is user space and what is kernel space= . This doesn't match the text on page 7, bottom. This might be confusing to= an average reader. - Section 2.3.1, page 10, 1st paragraph: s/4) a ad-hoc/4) an ad-hoc - Section 2.3.1, page 11, paragraph starting with "Over time...": I suggest to split this paragraph after "...1) and 3). I.e., starting "Impl= ementing the first approach..." as a new paragraph. - Section 2.4, page 16, 3rd paragraph: The conclusion of the first sentence isn't that obvious for an average read= er. It would be good to give a reference/hint why running IPv6 apps over IP= v4 (and vice versa) is made possible by HIP.=20 - Section 3.5, page 20, 3rd paragraph: s/200 rps/200 requests per second/ - Section 5.4, page 24, paragraph starting with "A HIP-aware...": The last sentence is not completely correct, as a change of the IP address = may remove a firewall (or any other network entity) from the data packet pa= th between source and destination. In this case, the firewall would not be = able to learn any of the changes anymore. I suggest adding at the end of th= e sentence ", if still on the path." Martin martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu NEC Laboratories Europe - Network Research Division NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London = W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014=20 From thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com Sat Jun 25 15:17:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2B011E8123 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:17:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.320, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g5ZvNa-XTqPA for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.96.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7D511E811F for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (slb-av-01.boeing.com [129.172.13.4]) by stl-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/8.14.4/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id p5PMHMFh015153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:17:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p5PMHMII012126; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NWHT-07.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwht-07.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.25.111]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id p5PMHLTL012121 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.85]) by XCH-NWHT-07.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.111]) with mapi; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:17:18 -0700 From: "Henderson, Thomas R" To: "hiprg@irtf.org" Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:17:17 -0700 Thread-Topic: Review of draft-irtf-hiprg-dht-03 Thread-Index: AcwyWxDcoW/lGzJLR4m2SC8gbjhAjQBKmM9A Message-ID: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71AD5@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: 'Martin Stiemerling' Subject: [hiprg] FW: Review of draft-irtf-hiprg-dht-03 X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:17:34 -0000 Please see below Martin Stiemerling's IRSG review of the HIP DHT interface = draft. We will address these comments on the list and, once all comments a= re addressed, will initiate an IRSG Poll on the revised document. - Tom -----Original Message----- From: irsg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:irsg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Mar= tin Stiemerling Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:40 AM To: irsg@irtf.org; Ahrenholz, Jeffrey M Subject: [irsg] Review of draft-irtf-hiprg-dht-03 Dear all, Here is my IRSG expert review of draft-irtf-hiprg-dht-03.=20 In see the need for an updated of the draft to address my comments below. General: The draft is in a good shape, clearly describing the HIP DHT interface. It = is a good source for somebody who wants to program this.=20 Only the currently missing deployment of OpenDHT hurts a bit, as this is no= t yet usable anymore. However, this is out of reach of the authors.=20 Structural: I would swap the Section 3 and Section 4. Section 3 is relying on the knowl= edge about what the HDRRs are, but all of this is introduced in Section 4. = This would improve the readability of the draft.=20 Issues: - Section 3, page 8, first paragraph on that page: How often should a HIP peer check whether the name to HIT binding is still = valid? The text only says that a check if needed, but there is no hint to t= he frequency, e.g., years, days, hours, minutes, seconds (?) - Section 4, page 15, last paragraph: This proposed server side checking could be source of a denial of service a= ttack, as the DHT server would need to do some processing on its own. I wou= ld either remove this or document it well in the security section.=20 - Section 6, page 18, 4th paragraph: This latency considerations neglect the processing impact of the DHT itself= . DHTs are not the fastest lookup mechanism in the world. This should also = be documented as an impacting factor.=20 =20 Nits: - Section 1, first paragraph: "DHTs are also designed to support frequently updating" What is frequently in this case? I would understand frequently in the range= of seconds, but this may not be true for DHTs. DHTs can be updated more fr= equently than a DNS based approach and that is what you are probably trying= to say here. - Section 2, 3rd paragraph, 1st sentence: " OpenDHT stores values using (hash) keys."=20 This is incomplete. I would suggest to write "OpenDHT stores values and indexes those by using (hash) keys." - Appendix A: Please add a note that this appendix should be removed by the RFC editor (a= ssuming that this is the intention). I'm available for any question or comment to my review. With best regards Martin martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu NEC Laboratories Europe - Network Research Division NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London = W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014=20 From thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com Sat Jun 25 16:11:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC00F11E8121 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:11:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.466 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZCJKh7+n+GkC for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com (blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.32.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6F611E808F for ; 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Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.72 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:31:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DF72D48.10007@hiit.fi> References: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CEED71928@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com> <005601cc24c4$99060400$cb120c00$@com> <4DF72D48.10007@hiit.fi> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:31:19 +0800 Message-ID: From: Zhen Cao To: Andrei Gurtov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: irtf-chair@irsg.org, hiprg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:31:35 -0000 Hi Chairs, I would like to play this topic in HIPRG. This is inline with our interests= . Regards, Zhen -China Mobile On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Andrei Gurtov wrote: > > Hei Xiaohu, > > That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several > organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you think > of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple > years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University? > > Andrei > > Xu Xiaohu wrote: >> Hi Tom and all, >> >> I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new char= ter >> item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical = HITs >> from the commercial deployment perspectives: >> >> First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator >> mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a >> hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management ser= vice >> systems could be operated by different countries and different operators >> with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business mode= ls, >> just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the ho= me >> address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS >> infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs o= f >> the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs i= n >> the existing DNS infrastructure. >> >> Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP.= For >> instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via provider-o= wned >> HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since t= he >> hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary, >> ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable >> business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such f= lat >> identifiers. >> >> There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about >> hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 >> >> By the way, we have implemented the RANGI >> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a >> hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented structu= re. >> Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and >> verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City. >> >> Best regards, >> Xiaohu >> >> >>> -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- >>> =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.o= rg] =B4=FA=B1=ED >>> Henderson, Thomas R >>> =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2011=C4=EA6=D4=C26=C8=D5 22:49 >>> =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: hiprg@irtf.org >>> =B3=AD=CB=CD: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org' >>> =D6=F7=CC=E2: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >>> >>> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item >> since >>> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the >> RG. >>> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define s= ome >>> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play >> relative to >>> the WG. >>> >>> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: >>> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community an= d >> for >>> HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? >>> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For instan= ce, >>> participation drawn from more than a single institution or country. Ca= n >> we >>> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? >>> >>> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would lik= e >> to see >>> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the >> meeting. >>> - Tom >>> _______________________________________________ >>> hiprg mailing list >>> hiprg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> hiprg mailing list >> hiprg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg > > _______________________________________________ > hiprg mailing list > hiprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg > --=20 Best regards, Zhen From wdwang@bupt.edu.cn Wed Jun 29 20:31:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ABA21F8657 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:31:01 -0700 (PDT) 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[212.68.0.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE51228011 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.151] (unknown [195.130.127.165]) by argo.otaverkko.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7077525EE81; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:36:06 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4E0C1878.1030609@hiit.fi> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:32:24 +0300 From: Andrei Gurtov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wendong WANG References: <201106281659415514469@bupt.edu.cn> <201106301130508243153@bupt.edu.cn> In-Reply-To: <201106301130508243153@bupt.edu.cn> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: hiprg Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 06:36:09 -0000 Can you commit to attend the HIPRG meetings at IETF for one-two years to contribute to h-hip draft development or at least provide active feedback on the mailing list (e.g. at least one email/week)? Same question also applies to China mobile. Andrei Wendong WANG wrote: > > > Our team has > interesting on the hierarchical HIT research work. we have already implemented a demo of ID-Locator mapping services based on HIP. > We also hope to do more works on it for the future Internet mobility and security functions. > Wendong WANG > Beijing Universty of Posts and Telecommunications (BUPT) > 2011-06-30 > > > >> -----邮件原件----- >> 发件人: Andrei Gurtov [mailto:gurtov@hiit.fi] >> 发送时间: 2011年6月14日 17:44 >> 收件人: Xu Xiaohu >> 抄送: 'Henderson, Thomas R'; hiprg@irtf.org; irtf-chair@irsg.org >> 主题: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >> >> >> Hei Xiaohu, >> >> That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several >> organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you think >> of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple >> years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University? >> >> Andrei >> >> Xu Xiaohu wrote: >> > Hi Tom and all, >> > >> > I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new charter >> > item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical HITs >> > from the commercial deployment perspectives: >> > >> > First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator >> > mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a >> > hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management >> service >> > systems could be operated by different countries and different operators >> > with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business >> models, >> > just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the home >> > address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS >> > infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs of >> > the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs in >> > the existing DNS infrastructure. >> > >> > Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP. For >> > instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via provider-owned >> > HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since the >> > hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary, >> > ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable >> > business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such flat >> > identifiers. >> > >> > There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about >> > hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 >> > >> > By the way, we have implemented the RANGI >> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a >> > hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented structure. >> > Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and >> > verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Xiaohu >> > >> > >> >> -----邮件原件----- >> >> 发件人: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] 代表 >> >> Henderson, Thomas R >> >> 发送时间: 2011年6月6日 22:49 >> >> 收件人: hiprg@irtf.org >> >> 抄送: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org' >> >> 主题: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >> >> >> >> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item >> > since >> >> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the >> > RG. >> >> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define some >> >> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play >> > relative to >> >> the WG. >> >> >> >> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: >> >> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community and >> > for >> >> HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? >> >> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For instance, >> >> participation drawn from more than a single institution or country. Can >> > we >> >> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? >> >> >> >> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would like >> > to see >> >> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the >> > meeting. >> >> - Tom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> hiprg mailing list >> >> hiprg@irtf.org >> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > hiprg mailing list >> > hiprg@irtf.org >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > hiprg mailing list > hiprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg From wdwang@bupt.edu.cn Thu Jun 30 00:23:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hiprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com 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Acw29qVMj/a9vOmWQTi8mIkIbtycLgAAKdBQ Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:34:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CC373B.3807B890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am interested in this topic and like to attend meetings and provide = reviews. =20 Sean =20 From: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf = Of wdwang Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:24 PM To: Andrei Gurtov Cc: hiprg Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion =20 Hei, Andrei =20 If H-HIP could be become a charter in HIPRG, I can commit to provide = active feedback on the mailling list. Our team will very happy to do our = contrbutions on H-HIP drafts and attend the HIPRG meeting at IETF. =20 Wendong WANG =20 =20 =20 =20 _____ =20 wdwang 2011-07-30 _____ =20 =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A Andrei Gurtov =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4=EF=BC=9A 2011-06-30 15:04:06 =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A Wendong WANG =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81=EF=BC=9A hiprg =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9A Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion =20 Can you commit to attend the HIPRG meetings at IETF for one-two years to contribute to h-hip draft development or at least provide active feedback on the mailing list (e.g. at least one email/week)? Same question also applies to China mobile. Andrei =20 =20 Wendong WANG wrote: >=20 > =20 > Our team has > interesting on the hierarchical HIT research work. we have already = implemented a demo of ID-Locator mapping services based on HIP.=20 > We also hope to do more works on it for the future Internet mobility = and security functions. > Wendong WANG > Beijing Universty of Posts and Telecommunications (BUPT)=20 > 2011-06-30 > =20 > =20 > =20 >> -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- >> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Andrei Gurtov [mailto:gurtov@hiit.fi] >> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: = 2011=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=8814=E6=97=A5 17:44 >> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Xu Xiaohu >> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 'Henderson, Thomas R'; hiprg@irtf.org; = irtf-chair@irsg.org >> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >>=20 >>=20 >> Hei Xiaohu, >>=20 >> That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several >> organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you = think >> of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple >> years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University? >>=20 >> Andrei >>=20 >> Xu Xiaohu wrote: >> > Hi Tom and all, >> > >> > I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new = charter >> > item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using = hierarchical HITs >> > from the commercial deployment perspectives: >> > >> > First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the = ID-to-Locator >> > mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run = in a >> > hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility = management >> service >> > systems could be operated by different countries and different = operators >> > with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business >> models, >> > just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and = the home >> > address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing = DNS >> > infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, = HITs of >> > the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA = RRs in >> > the existing DNS infrastructure. >> > >> > Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for = HIP. For >> > instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via = provider-owned >> > HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) = since the >> > hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the = contrary, >> > ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no = reasonable >> > business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for = such flat >> > identifiers. >> > >> > There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about >> > hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 >> > >> > By the way, we have implemented the RANGI >> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses = a >> > hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented = structure. >> > Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and >> > verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec = City. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Xiaohu >> > >> > >> >> -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- >> >> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org = [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 >> >> Henderson, Thomas R >> >> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: = 2011=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5 22:49 >> >> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: hiprg@irtf.org >> >> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org' >> >> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >> >> >> >> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter = item >> > since >> >> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions = of the >> > RG. >> >> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to = define some >> >> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play >> > relative to >> >> the WG. >> >> >> >> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: >> >> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet = community and >> > for >> >> HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? >> >> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For = instance, >> >> participation drawn from more than a single institution or = country. Can >> > we >> >> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? >> >> >> >> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I = would like >> > to see >> >> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before = the >> > meeting. >> >> - Tom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> hiprg mailing list >> >> hiprg@irtf.org >> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > hiprg mailing list >> > hiprg@irtf.org >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg >=20 >=20 > = ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > hiprg mailing list > hiprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CC373B.3807B890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am = interested in this topic and like to attend meetings and provide = reviews.

 

Sean

 

From:= = hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of = wdwang
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:24 PM
To: = Andrei Gurtov
Cc: hiprg
Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG = charter discussion

 

= Hei, Andrei

 

= If H-HIP could be become a charter in HIPRG, I can commit to provide = active feedback on the mailling list. Our team will very happy = to do our contrbutions on H-HIP drafts and attend the = HIPRG meeting at IETF.

 

= Wendong WANG   

 

 

 

wdwang

2011-07-30

=E5=8F=91=E4=BB= =B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A Andrei = Gurtov

=E5=8F=91=E9=80= =81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4=EF=BC=9A = 2011-06-30 15:04:06

=E6=94=B6=E4=BB= =B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A Wendong = WANG

=E6=8A=84=E9=80= =81=EF=BC=9A = hiprg

=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2= =98=EF=BC=9A Re: = [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion

 

Can yo= u commit to attend the HIPRG meetings = at IETF for one-two years to

 contr= ibute to h-hip draft development or at = ;least provide active

feedback&nb= sp;on the mailing list (e.g. at least = one email/week)?

Same q= uestion also applies to China mobile.=

Andrei=

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Wendong&nbs= p;WANG wrote:

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> O= ur team has

> i= nteresting on the hierarchical HIT research = ;work. we have already implemented a demo&n= bsp;of ID-Locator mapping services based on = ;HIP. 

> W= e also hope to do more works on i= t for the future Internet mobility and = ;security functions.

> W= endong WANG

> B= eijing Universty of Posts and Telecommunications=  (BUPT) 

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>>&nb= sp;-----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB= =B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6-----<= /o:p>

>>&nb= sp;=E5=8F=91=E4=BB= =B6=E4=BA=BA: Andr= ei Gurtov [mailto:gurtov@hiit.fi]

>>&nb= sp;=E5=8F=91=E9=80= =81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2011= =E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=8814=E6=97=A5 17:44=

>>&nb= sp;=E6=94=B6=E4=BB= =B6=E4=BA=BA: Xu&n= bsp;Xiaohu

>>&nb= sp;=E6=8A=84=E9=80= =81: 'Hen= derson, Thomas R'; hiprg@irtf.org; irtf-chair@irsg.or= g

>>&nb= sp;=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2= =98: Re:&= nbsp;[hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion

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>>&nb= sp;Hei Xiaohu,

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>>&nb= sp;That's an interesting topic, but there s= hould be interest of several

>>&nb= sp;organizations to discuss and develop it = jointly at HIPRG. Can you think

>>&nb= sp;of others who would be willing to c= ommit to this topic for a couple=

>>&nb= sp;years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua Universit= y?

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>>&nb= sp;Andrei

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>>&nb= sp;Xu Xiaohu wrote:

>>&nb= sp;> Hi Tom and all,

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>>&nb= sp;> I propose to consider taking the&nb= sp;hierarchical HIT research as a new chart= er

>>&nb= sp;> item. IMHO, there are at least = ;two major benefits of using hierarchical H= ITs

>>&nb= sp;> from the commercial deployment perspecti= ves:

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>>&nb= sp;> First, the ID/HIT registration managemen= t service and the ID-to-Locator

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>>&nb= sp;> mapping service corresponding to the&nbs= p;hierarchical HITs could be run in a<= /o:p>

>>&nb= sp;> hierarchical manner. In other words,&nbs= p;such global mobility management

>>&nb= sp;service

>>&nb= sp;> systems could be operated by differ= ent countries and different operators

>>&nb= sp;> with clear administrative domain boundar= ies and reasonable business

>>&nb= sp;models,

>>&nb= sp;> just like the telephone number spac= e in the telephone network and the hom= e

>>&nb= sp;> address space in the mobile IP = ;network. In addition, the existing DNS

>>&nb= sp;> infrastructure doesn't need to be c= hanged largely. That's to say, HITs of=

>>&nb= sp;> the HIP hosts could be stored = directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs in=

>>&nb= sp;> the existing DNS infrastructure.

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>>&nb= sp;> Second, the usage of hierarchical H= ITs will ease the transition for HIP. = For

>>&nb= sp;> instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could a= ccess mobile HIP hosts via provider-owned

>>&nb= sp;> HIP proxy devices (just as home&nbs= p;agents in the mobile IP network) since&nb= sp;the

>>&nb= sp;> hierarchical HITs could be routable = ;in the Internet. On the contrary,

>>&nb= sp;> ORCHIDs are not routable in the&nbs= p;Internet since there is no reasonable

>>&nb= sp;> business motivation for operators to&nbs= p;deploy HIP proxy devices for such flat

>>&nb= sp;> identifiers.

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>>&nb= sp;> There has been some proposals and&n= bsp;presentations discussing about

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>>&nb= sp;> hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before a= s follows:

>>&nb= sp;> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02=

>>&nb= sp;> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02<= /span>

>>&nb= sp;> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04

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>>&nb= sp;> By the way, we have implemented&nbs= p;the RANGI

>>&nb= sp;> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototyp= e which uses a

>>&nb= sp;> hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs&= nbsp;with delegation-oriented structure.

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>>&nb= sp;> Hope we could have a chance to=  show the implementation details and<= /span>

>>&nb= sp;> verification results at the forthcoming&= nbsp;IETF meeting in Quebec City.

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>>&nb= sp;> Best regards,

>>&nb= sp;> Xiaohu

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>>&nb= sp;>> -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB= =B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6-----<= /o:p>

>>&nb= sp;>> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB= =B6=E4=BA=BA: hipr= g-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1= =A8=

>>&nb= sp;>> Henderson, Thomas R

>>&nb= sp;>> =E5=8F=91=E9=80= =81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2011= =E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5 22:49=

>>&nb= sp;>> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB= =B6=E4=BA=BA: hipr= g@irtf.org

>>&nb= sp;>> =E6=8A=84=E9=80= =81: 'irt= f-chair@irsg.org'

>>&nb= sp;>> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2= =98: [hip= rg] HIPRG charter discussion

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>>&nb= sp;>> With the completion of the expe= riment report (our main RG charter item

>>&nb= sp;> since

>>&nb= sp;>> the RG's inception), I would li= ke to ask about future directions of t= he

>>&nb= sp;> RG.

>>&nb= sp;>> Outside of completing our current&nb= sp;RG drafts, we need to try to define=  some

>>&nb= sp;>> new collaborative work items and&nbs= p;define what role the RG will play

>>&nb= sp;> relative to

>>&nb= sp;>> the WG.

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>>&nb= sp;>> These work items should ideally = ;satisfy the following criteria:

>>&nb= sp;>> - is the research area clear&nb= sp;and relevant for the Internet community = and

>>&nb= sp;> for

>>&nb= sp;>> HIP in particular?  What are&nb= sp;the expected outcomes and impact?

>>&nb= sp;>> - will the RG foster work = that would not be done otherwise?  For=  instance,

>>&nb= sp;>> participation drawn from more than&n= bsp;a single institution or country.  Can

>>&nb= sp;> we

>>&nb= sp;>> try to identify individuals for = ;this anticipated participation?

>>&nb= sp;>>

>>&nb= sp;>> We can have some discussion of&= nbsp;this at the next meeting but I wo= uld like

>>&nb= sp;> to see

>>&nb= sp;>> whether we can start identifying&nbs= p;some topics on the list before the

>>&nb= sp;> meeting.

>>&nb= sp;>> - Tom

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>>&nb= sp;> hiprg mailing list

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