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Today's Topics: 1. FW: draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis Request to change one reference from normative to informative (Eric Vyncke (evyncke)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 07:19:17 +0000 From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" To: "hipsec@ietf.org" Subject: [Hipsec] FW: draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis Request to change one reference from normative to informative Message-ID: <717FA050-B5EF-4EEC-83B0-329E9BDCD47D@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" For information. Only one positive reply from the HIP WG about this change, so, let?s go for= ward and allow the publication of RFC4423-bis and the NAT traversal. You may also have noticed that HIP-DEX has been sent back to the WG as 3 IE= SG evaluations were not enough to clear all the DISCUSS. At the bare minimu= m, the IESG expects a change in the intended status to ?experimental? and m= ore actual/accurate/recent evaluation of the CPU/battery/memory impact of f= orfeiting forward secrecy. Regards -?ric From: Eric Vyncke Date: Friday, 2 April 2021 at 09:14 To: "rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org" Cc: Robert Moskowitz , "miika.komu@hiit.fi" , Gonzalo Camarillo , Lars Eggert= Subject: Request to change one reference from normative to informative Dear RFC Editor, After consultation with the IESG, the authors, and the HIP WG, I request a = change in draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis-20, which is currently in the state MI= SSREF. The reference to draft-ietf-hip-dex MUST be informative and no longe= r normative. This change better suits the type of reference and should also move C386 fo= rward. Thank you in advance, Regards -?ric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "hipsec@ietf.org" <hipsec@ietf.org>
Subject: [Hipsec] FW: draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis Request to change one
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For information.

Only one positive reply from the HIP WG about this change, so, let?s go for= ward and allow the publication of RFC4423-bis and the NAT traversal.

You may also have noticed that HIP-DEX has been sent back to the WG as 3 IE= SG evaluations were not enough to clear all the DISCUSS. At the bare minimu= m, the IESG expects a change in the intended status to ?experimental? and m= ore actual/accurate/recent evaluation of the CPU/battery/memory impact of forfeiting forward secrecy.

Regards

-?ric

From: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>
Date: Friday, 2 April 2021 at 09:14
To: "rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org" <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>=
Cc: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com>, "miika.komu@hiit.fi&= quot; <miika.komu@hiit.fi>, Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@e= ricsson.com>, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
Subject: Request to change one reference from normative to informative

Dear RFC Editor,

After consultation with the IESG, the authors, and the HIP WG, I request a = change in draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis-20, which is currently in the state MI= SSREF. The reference to draft-ietf-hip-dex MUST be informative and no longe= r normative.

This change better suits the type of reference and should also move C386 fo= rward.

Thank you in advance,

Regards

-?ric
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