Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm?

From hkirksey@motive.com Wed Jul 8 16:15:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35F028C164 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:15:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.164 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.164 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.436, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lRL4wRKcRxke for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m1.motive.com (m1.motive.com [64.186.184.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BAF3A6B98 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m1.motive.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E27F387F for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:15:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bellagio.motive.com (unknown [135.115.129.116]) by m1.motive.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB07A3872 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:15:01 -0500 (CDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA0021.DD97545A" Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:14:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Meeting time in Stockholm? Thread-Index: AcoAId2kibqUNKkGTNGGVKQiHsbdNg== From: "Heather Kirksey" To: X-PMX-Version: 5.4.6.353000 Subject: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:15:04 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA0021.DD97545A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When the BoF proposal was declined, there was some talk of a bar BoF or meeting time being allocated in Stockholm to discuss some of the issues and to better prepare for a BoF in Hiroshima. There's been a fair amount of exploder discussion on various topics since then, but I'm not sure I ever saw any concrete decision to make use of any meeting time. Is there interest in doing so? Is there an update that I missed (entirely possible)? =20 =20 Thanks, Heather =20 Heather Kirksey Director, Product & Technology Strategy Motive Product Division Alcatel-Lucent hkirksey@motive.com =20 +1.512.531.1126 (office) +1.512.917.7938 (mobile) =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA0021.DD97545A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

When the BoF proposal was declined, there was some = talk of a bar BoF or meeting time being allocated in Stockholm to discuss some of = the issues and to better prepare for a BoF in Hiroshima. There’s been = a fair amount of exploder discussion on various topics since then, but I’m not = sure I ever saw any concrete decision to make use of any meeting time. Is = there interest in doing so? Is there an update that I missed (entirely = possible)?

Thanks,

Heather

Heather = Kirksey

Director, Product = & Technology Strategy

Motive Product = Division

Alcatel-Lucent

hkirksey@motive.com

+1.512.531.1126 = (office)

+1.512.917.7938 = (mobile)

------_=_NextPart_001_01CA0021.DD97545A-- From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Jul 13 14:30:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5836928C511 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.269, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vlDs+tuwQIkf for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (properopus-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f04:392::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5032628C51C for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n6DLURwN013131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:30:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:29:32 -0700 To: "Heather Kirksey" , From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:30:01 -0000 It would indeed be good to have a bar BoF so that we can get the charter and deliverables a bit more solid. Are people interested in picking an evening right after the IETF and we can go to a local bar with food (since none of us will have had dinner)? --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From iljitsch@muada.com Mon Jul 13 14:35:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344D128C5F2 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.038 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.038 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.309, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tFPKVnIowkWa for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.muada.com (sequoia.muada.com [83.149.65.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20A328C64E for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.4] (static-167-138-7-89.ipcom.comunitel.net [89.7.138.167] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by sequoia.muada.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n6DLZ3g3033831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:35:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from iljitsch@muada.com) Message-Id: <05F458A6-F3AA-47ED-9C36-AB43A7326939@muada.com> From: Iljitsch van Beijnum To: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:35:05 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:35:22 -0000 On 13 jul 2009, at 23:29, Paul Hoffman wrote: > It would indeed be good to have a bar BoF so that we can get the > charter and deliverables a bit more solid. Are people interested in > picking an evening right after the IETF and we can go to a local bar > with food (since none of us will have had dinner)? To help scheduling, I've set up a doodle. Fill in when you're available after the last session/plenary (which is _during_ the social on tuesday): http://www.doodle.com/32b5xhqp6e94vvnt From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Tue Jul 14 05:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C46F3A6ACB for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.831 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.831 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.365, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mOfGDyIh6jkB for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com (PacdcIMO01.cable.comcast.com [24.40.8.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1C93A67C1 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.15.92]) by pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id 5503620.45498662; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:56:45 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) by PACDCEXCSMTP03.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:56:45 -0400 Received: from 10.36.138.31 ([10.36.138.31]) by PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.comcast.com ([24.40.8.153]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:56:26 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.19.0.090515 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:40:55 -0400 From: "Livingood, Jason" To: Heather Kirksey , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? Thread-Index: AcoAId2kibqUNKkGTNGGVKQiHsbdNgEVhTjj In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3330406586_2502336" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2009 12:56:45.0599 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AE4CAF0:01CA0482] Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:57:53 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3330406586_2502336 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable We=B9re tentatively planning a bar BoF for Monday night, more details to follow as we work on a venue and so on. Jason On 7/8/09 7:14 PM, "Heather Kirksey" wrote: > When the BoF proposal was declined, there was some talk of a bar BoF or > meeting time being allocated in Stockholm to discuss some of the issues a= nd to > better prepare for a BoF in Hiroshima. There=B9s been a fair amount of expl= oder > discussion on various topics since then, but I=B9m not sure I ever saw any > concrete decision to make use of any meeting time. Is there interest in = doing > so? Is there an update that I missed (entirely possible)? > =20 > Thanks, > Heather > =20 --B_3330406586_2502336 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? We’re tentatively planning a bar BoF for Monday night, more details = to follow as we work on a venue and so on.

Jason

On 7/8/09 7:14 PM, "Heather Kirksey" <hkirksey@motive.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>When the BoF proposal was declined, there was so= me talk of a bar BoF or meeting time being allocated in Stockholm to discuss= some of the issues and to better prepare for a BoF in Hiroshima. There̵= 7;s been a fair amount of exploder discussion on various topics since then, = but I’m not sure I ever saw any concrete decision to make use of any m= eeting time. Is there interest in doing so? Is there an update that I = missed (entirely possible)?

Thanks,
Heather

--B_3330406586_2502336-- From lastewart@swin.edu.au Tue Jul 14 08:45:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3B828C2F4 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:45:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rC2Qy2MtbX1k for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lauren.room52.net (lauren.room52.net [210.50.193.198]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8C43A6893 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lstewart-laptop.caia.swin.edu.au (c149.al.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.110.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by lauren.room52.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6EFXYqV075834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:33:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from lastewart@swin.edu.au) Message-ID: <4A5CA542.701@swin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:33:22 +0100 From: Lawrence Stewart User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Livingood, Jason" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:45:08 -0000 Livingood, Jason wrote: > We�re tentatively planning a bar BoF for Monday night, more details to > follow as we work on a venue and so on. Who's we, and is there any reason why these plans can't be discussed/fleshed out on the list? (Please forgive me if it's buried in one of the threads I haven't got to reading all the way through yet). Cheers, Lawrence From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Tue Jul 14 08:46:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8066A28C2D9 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:46:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.996 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.996 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.267, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VrQfn0lD9Ef6 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (properopus-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f04:392::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766213A6945 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n6EFl3Zr093213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:47:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A5CA542.701@swin.edu.au> References: <4A5CA542.701@swin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:47:02 -0700 To: Lawrence Stewart , "Livingood, Jason" From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:46:48 -0000 At 4:33 PM +0100 7/14/09, Lawrence Stewart wrote: >Livingood, Jason wrote: >>We're tentatively planning a bar BoF for Monday night, more details to follow as we work on a venue and so on. > >Who's we, and is there any reason why these plans can't be discussed/fleshed out on the list? (Please forgive me if it's buried in one of the threads I haven't got to reading all the way through yet). That's what this thread is about. See the past few messages. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From lastewart@swin.edu.au Tue Jul 14 09:05:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927E228C33B for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:05:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pbx4qU91flmZ for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lauren.room52.net (lauren.room52.net [210.50.193.198]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8734328C324 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lstewart-laptop.caia.swin.edu.au (c149.al.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.110.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by lauren.room52.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6EG3NNx076390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:03:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from lastewart@swin.edu.au) Message-ID: <4A5CAC40.8060307@swin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:03:12 +0100 From: Lawrence Stewart User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <4A5CA542.701@swin.edu.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Livingood, Jason" , homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:05:17 -0000 Paul Hoffman wrote: > At 4:33 PM +0100 7/14/09, Lawrence Stewart wrote: >> Livingood, Jason wrote: >>> We're tentatively planning a bar BoF for Monday night, more details to follow as we work on a venue and so on. >> Who's we, and is there any reason why these plans can't be discussed/fleshed out on the list? (Please forgive me if it's buried in one of the threads I haven't got to reading all the way through yet). > > That's what this thread is about. See the past few messages. I read Jason's reply to Heather as if to say "we'll let you [and the list] know when we [some subset of undisclosed people] have it all planned and sorted" which sounded rather non-consultative to me. If I've got that all wrong, then please ignore me and carry on. Otherwise, just saying it would be good if the organising could be carried out on the list (perhaps by extending this thread), as I plan on attending the BoF and would like to follow the planning as it progresses. Not a big issue though so please don't interpret this as a flame :) Just eager to follow progress. Cheers, Lawrence From linmei.shu@smc.com Tue Jul 14 16:09:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E883A6A9E for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:09:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.805 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.805 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_BLANKS=0.041, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id biVP-jyi3ari for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smcmx.smc.com (smcmx.smc.com [63.164.94.12]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035543A6970 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smc-notes.smc.com (unknown [63.164.94.10]) by smcmx.smc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9281175E319 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: linmei.shu@smc.com To: homegate@ietf.org Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:00:08 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SMC-NOTES/smc(Release 6.5.5FP1|April 11, 2006) at 07/14/2009 04:00:09 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Subject: [homegate] Linmei Shu is out of the office. X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:09:45 -0000 DQpJIHdpbGwgYmUgb3V0IG9mIHRoZSBvZmZpY2Ugc3RhcnRpbmcgIDA3LzEyLzIwMDkgYW5kIHdp bGwgbm90IHJldHVybiB1bnRpbA0KMDcvMjcvMjAwOS4NCg0KSSB3aWxsIHJlc3BvbmQgdG8geW91 ciBtZXNzYWdlIHdoZW4gSSByZXR1cm4uIEZvciBXQ1JOIGFuZCBVU0cgdGVjaG5pY2FsDQppc3N1 ZXMsIHBsZWFzZSBjb250YWN0IHlhbi5odWFuZ0BzbWMuY29tLiBGb3IgV0NSTiBhbmQgVVNHIHNv ZnR3YXJlDQpyZWxlYXNlcywgcGxlYXNlIGNvbnRhY3QgYmluLndhbmdAYWNjdG9uLmNvbS5jbi4g Rm9yIHRlc3RpbmcgcmVxdWVzdCwNCnBsZWFzZSBjb250YWN0IG5hdGhlbi5oYW5AYWNjdG9uLmNv bS5jbi4gRm9yIG90aGVyIGFzc2lzdGFuY2UsIHBsZWFzZQ0KY29udGFjdCBteSBtYW5hZ2VyIGdy ZWcuZmlzaGVyQHNtYy5jb20uDQoNClRoYW5rcywNCkxpbm1laSBTaHUNCkRpcmVjdG9yIG9mIFJl c2VhcmNoICYgRGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQNCkJyb2FkYmFuZCBCdXNpbmVzcyBEZXZlbG9wbWVudA0KU01D IE5ldHdvcmtzDQpvZmZpY2U6ICA1MTIuMjQ5Ljk1MTUseDEwMQ0KbW9iaWxlOiAgNTEyLjc5Ni42 ODA0DQpsaW5tZWkuc2h1QHNtYy5jb20= From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Tue Jul 14 21:43:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254D33A6828 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:43:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-3.969, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VvPUCNyPaOrP for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com (paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com [208.17.35.58]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176933A67A1 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([10.52.116.31]) by paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id KP-NTF18.74891265; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:35:21 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) by PAOAKEXCSMTP02.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:35:22 -0400 Received: from 68.83.175.155 ([68.83.175.155]) by PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.comcast.com ([24.40.8.153]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:35:19 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.19.0.090515 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:35:17 -0400 From: "Livingood, Jason" To: Lawrence Stewart , Paul Hoffman Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? Thread-Index: AcoE5CAJDcVfBSf2UUOcGO1LsXkxpg== In-Reply-To: <4A5CAC40.8060307@swin.edu.au> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2009 00:35:22.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[23112060:01CA04E4] Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:43:30 -0000 This needn't be so complex, really. We've been discussing on the list now for awhile whether to have a bar BoF or not, and off-list some of the ADs and others have suggested that it may be a good idea as well (we - being Dave Oran and I - sought their advice and direction). I am merely suggesting that based on a number of emails I have received, people seem to be asking for Monday. I haven't worked out any logistics past that. So, taking one step back, is there interest in a bar BoF or not? And if so, would Monday evening work for folks? Jason On 7/14/09 12:03 PM, "Lawrence Stewart" wrote: > Paul Hoffman wrote: >> At 4:33 PM +0100 7/14/09, Lawrence Stewart wrote: >>> Livingood, Jason wrote: >>>> We're tentatively planning a bar BoF for Monday night, more details to >>>> follow as we work on a venue and so on. >>> Who's we, and is there any reason why these plans can't be discussed/fleshed >>> out on the list? (Please forgive me if it's buried in one of the threads I >>> haven't got to reading all the way through yet). >> >> That's what this thread is about. See the past few messages. > > I read Jason's reply to Heather as if to say "we'll let you [and the > list] know when we [some subset of undisclosed people] have it all > planned and sorted" which sounded rather non-consultative to me. If I've > got that all wrong, then please ignore me and carry on. Otherwise, just > saying it would be good if the organising could be carried out on the > list (perhaps by extending this thread), as I plan on attending the BoF > and would like to follow the planning as it progresses. > > Not a big issue though so please don't interpret this as a flame :) Just > eager to follow progress. > > Cheers, > Lawrence From jhw@apple.com Tue Jul 14 22:04:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8B63A6860 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:04:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.992 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.992 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.263, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id umeSQp7hqOD8 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074E13A682F for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BB56D56E38 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 908D928084 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:06 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-ab489bb0000021f3-6d-4a5d5f863eef Received: from [17.151.124.134] (unknown [17.151.124.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 4A6B128043 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1070) From: james woodyatt In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:05 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <78CEEC3B-CEF2-44B1-A98E-05F87869C188@apple.com> References: To: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1070) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:04:20 -0000 On Jul 14, 2009, at 17:35 , Livingood, Jason wrote: > > So, taking one step back, is there interest in a bar BoF or not? > And if so, would Monday evening work for folks? My travel auth for IETF 75 has been approved, so I'm planning to be there. Monday works, but you know I'm coming from California, so with luck I won't be falling asleep in the middle of things. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications engineering From lars.eggert@nokia.com Wed Jul 15 01:45:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919403A6A36 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iK3UfTsWyhXP for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (mail.fit.nokia.com [195.148.124.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F4A3A696B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.22] (p54AE19B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.174.25.179]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.fit.nokia.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6F8hVX0010264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:43:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from lars.eggert@nokia.com) Message-Id: <39890251-DFCD-40B8-92F6-E420425F2F50@nokia.com> From: Lars Eggert To: "Livingood, Jason" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-40-904754928; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:43:30 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (mail.fit.nokia.com [212.213.221.39]); Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:43:34 +0300 (EEST) Cc: Lawrence Stewart , Paul Hoffman , "homegate@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:45:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail-40-904754928 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2009-7-15, at 2:35, Livingood, Jason wrote: > So, taking one step back, is there interest in a bar BoF or not? From my side (as an AD), yes. As I said before, I believe there is important work here for the IETF to do, but I also believe we need some more discussion time before we have agreed on exactly what the scope and focus should be. > And if so, would Monday evening work for folks? Monday night is the traditional TSV directorate & chairs dinner. Then again, no night is perfect. Can we simply use the Doodle that Iljitsch set up to figure out which day is best? 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Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:53:12 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.17.0.090302 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:53:10 -0400 From: John Jason Brzozowski To: Jason Livingood , Lawrence Stewart , Paul Hoffman Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? Thread-Index: AcoE5CAJDcVfBSf2UUOcGO1LsXkxpgAVlE5T In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2009 10:53:47.0630 (UTC) FILETIME=[87B1D0E0:01CA053A] Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:15:06 -0000 +1 on interest. Could we do Tues, Wed, or Thur instead? John ========================================= John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Corporation e) mailto:john_brzozowski@cable.comcast.com m) 609-377-6594 ========================================= > From: Jason Livingood > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:35:17 -0400 > To: Lawrence Stewart , Paul Hoffman > > Cc: > Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? > > This needn't be so complex, really. We've been discussing on the list now > for awhile whether to have a bar BoF or not, and off-list some of the ADs > and others have suggested that it may be a good idea as well (we - being > Dave Oran and I - sought their advice and direction). I am merely > suggesting that based on a number of emails I have received, people seem to > be asking for Monday. I haven't worked out any logistics past that. > > So, taking one step back, is there interest in a bar BoF or not? > > And if so, would Monday evening work for folks? > > Jason > > > On 7/14/09 12:03 PM, "Lawrence Stewart" wrote: > >> Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> At 4:33 PM +0100 7/14/09, Lawrence Stewart wrote: >>>> Livingood, Jason wrote: >>>>> We're tentatively planning a bar BoF for Monday night, more details to >>>>> follow as we work on a venue and so on. >>>> Who's we, and is there any reason why these plans can't be >>>> discussed/fleshed >>>> out on the list? (Please forgive me if it's buried in one of the threads I >>>> haven't got to reading all the way through yet). >>> >>> That's what this thread is about. See the past few messages. >> >> I read Jason's reply to Heather as if to say "we'll let you [and the >> list] know when we [some subset of undisclosed people] have it all >> planned and sorted" which sounded rather non-consultative to me. If I've >> got that all wrong, then please ignore me and carry on. Otherwise, just >> saying it would be good if the organising could be carried out on the >> list (perhaps by extending this thread), as I plan on attending the BoF >> and would like to follow the planning as it progresses. >> >> Not a big issue though so please don't interpret this as a flame :) Just >> eager to follow progress. >> >> Cheers, >> Lawrence > > _______________________________________________ > homegate mailing list > homegate@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homegate From townsley@cisco.com Wed Jul 15 04:54:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE063A684F for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:54:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.014 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.014 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.285, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fOvupBjWJ+s0 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4A328C0DD for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:54:13 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAPtfXUqrR7PD/2dsb2JhbAC2ZogjMwmQSgWCTYE8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,404,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="86013475" Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2009 11:53:02 +0000 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6FBr24F028852; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:53:02 -0700 Received: from xbh-ams-101.cisco.com (xbh-ams-101.cisco.com [144.254.74.71]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6FBr13S003624; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:53:02 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-332.cisco.com ([144.254.231.73]) by xbh-ams-101.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:52:54 +0200 Received: from ams-townsley-8713.cisco.com ([10.55.233.228]) by xfe-ams-332.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:52:53 +0200 Message-ID: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:51:49 +0200 From: Mark Townsley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Jason Brzozowski References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2009 11:52:53.0935 (UTC) FILETIME=[C97503F0:01CA0542] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=3019; t=1247658782; x=1248522782; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=townsley@cisco.com; z=From:=20Mark=20Townsley=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[homegate]=20Meeting=20time=20in=20Stoc kholm? |Sender:=20; bh=3dDNHk+tYoY/hkwqUFfrvxEEirXQ7A12HbgptZq80hA=; b=WeyGz5UF1laoXAxLy3N0ylB7O3rimuoB3aV55+OrVMyCx3Lpk+m1qTWYaY oCi53e9xShAnhzHc8rEu0iBwajUzAy/HTcCzb/tTVxm/4JCVsmMPq9mRmsN6 daNlUV1aWJ; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=townsley@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); Cc: Lawrence Stewart , Jason Livingood , Paul Hoffman , homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:54:14 -0000 A reminder to register preferences here: http://www.doodle.com/32b5xhqp6e94vvnt - Mark John Jason Brzozowski wrote: > +1 on interest. Could we do Tues, Wed, or Thur instead? > > John > ========================================= > John Jason Brzozowski > Comcast Corporation > e) mailto:john_brzozowski@cable.comcast.com > m) 609-377-6594 > ========================================= > > > >> From: Jason Livingood >> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:35:17 -0400 >> To: Lawrence Stewart , Paul Hoffman >> >> Cc: >> Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? >> >> This needn't be so complex, really. We've been discussing on the list now >> for awhile whether to have a bar BoF or not, and off-list some of the ADs >> and others have suggested that it may be a good idea as well (we - being >> Dave Oran and I - sought their advice and direction). I am merely >> suggesting that based on a number of emails I have received, people seem to >> be asking for Monday. I haven't worked out any logistics past that. >> >> So, taking one step back, is there interest in a bar BoF or not? >> >> And if so, would Monday evening work for folks? >> >> Jason >> >> >> On 7/14/09 12:03 PM, "Lawrence Stewart" wrote: >> >> >>> Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> >>>> At 4:33 PM +0100 7/14/09, Lawrence Stewart wrote: >>>> >>>>> Livingood, Jason wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We're tentatively planning a bar BoF for Monday night, more details to >>>>>> follow as we work on a venue and so on. >>>>>> >>>>> Who's we, and is there any reason why these plans can't be >>>>> discussed/fleshed >>>>> out on the list? (Please forgive me if it's buried in one of the threads I >>>>> haven't got to reading all the way through yet). >>>>> >>>> That's what this thread is about. See the past few messages. >>>> >>> I read Jason's reply to Heather as if to say "we'll let you [and the >>> list] know when we [some subset of undisclosed people] have it all >>> planned and sorted" which sounded rather non-consultative to me. If I've >>> got that all wrong, then please ignore me and carry on. Otherwise, just >>> saying it would be good if the organising could be carried out on the >>> list (perhaps by extending this thread), as I plan on attending the BoF >>> and would like to follow the planning as it progresses. >>> >>> Not a big issue though so please don't interpret this as a flame :) Just >>> eager to follow progress. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Lawrence >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> homegate mailing list >> homegate@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homegate >> > > _______________________________________________ > homegate mailing list > homegate@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homegate > > From iljitsch@muada.com Thu Jul 16 14:04:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2008D28C254 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:04:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.039 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.039 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.310, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I3jRw61eN9vp for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.muada.com (sequoia.muada.com [83.149.65.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECF63A6961 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.4] (static-167-138-7-89.ipcom.comunitel.net [89.7.138.167] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by sequoia.muada.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n6GL4CuI060323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:04:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from iljitsch@muada.com) Message-Id: From: Iljitsch van Beijnum To: Mark Townsley In-Reply-To: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:04:15 +0200 References: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:04:28 -0000 On 15 jul 2009, at 13:51, Mark Townsley wrote: > A reminder to register preferences here: > http://www.doodle.com/32b5xhqp6e94vvnt We now have 15 votes for monday, 5 for tuesday, 14 for wednesday and 13 for thursday. Iljitsch From townsley@cisco.com Thu Jul 16 15:10:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFF73A6C82 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.477, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dtZGsZSLcnNH for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787F43A6AF7 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:10:01 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkAAANtBX0qQ/uCLe2dsb2JhbACZPwEBFiQGnwSII5EcBYQN X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,413,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="45264803" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2009 22:10:33 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GMAWfO002392; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:10:32 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-101.cisco.com (xbh-ams-101.cisco.com [144.254.74.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6GMAXKH011429; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:10:33 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com ([144.254.231.72]) by xbh-ams-101.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:10:32 +0200 Received: from ams-townsley-8713.cisco.com ([10.55.233.228]) by xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:10:32 +0200 Message-ID: <4A5FA514.3020303@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:09:24 +0200 From: Mark Townsley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Iljitsch van Beijnum References: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2009 22:10:32.0557 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C87B9D0:01CA0662] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=386; t=1247782232; x=1248646232; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=townsley@cisco.com; z=From:=20Mark=20Townsley=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[homegate]=20Meeting=20time=20in=20Stoc kholm? |Sender:=20; bh=0N48FQHrI5j5dYCvcpEvjrcQUKMUhjoqrtbb3kJW56w=; b=cHo3Q1CJp38JUcuu2RbABSWcT6fnK2KaXbhdWr2lmqYS3No1jyHGseKmpN ZddL5f0OapfUdLL7muNJf5Q1S9hMF3gOt5smu6/CY3jNdqtL5uOKAod9GFYz RHXLj1TV77; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=townsley@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim2001 verified; ); Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:10:03 -0000 May we call it for Monday then? (only day I can attend, so I'm obviously biased). - Mark Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 15 jul 2009, at 13:51, Mark Townsley wrote: > >> A reminder to register preferences here: > >> http://www.doodle.com/32b5xhqp6e94vvnt > > We now have 15 votes for monday, 5 for tuesday, 14 for wednesday and > 13 for thursday. > > Iljitsch > From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Thu Jul 16 17:06:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F353A6C8D for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.164 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.164 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.435, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pbO6ghfibDvo for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (properopus-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f04:392::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614263A6C6D for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.37.18.34] (74-95-99-41-Richmond.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [74.95.99.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n6H07Ne5044637 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:07:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A5FA514.3020303@cisco.com> References: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> <4A5FA514.3020303@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:07:23 -0400 To: Mark Townsley , Iljitsch van Beijnum From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:06:56 -0000 At 12:09 AM +0200 7/17/09, Mark Townsley wrote: >May we call it for Monday then? (only day I can attend, so I'm obviously biased). Yes, please, let's decide soon. Monday seems as good as any. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From iljitsch@muada.com Sun Jul 19 23:08:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FD23A6B46 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:08:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.472 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.472 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.257, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JLM9jZS472FG for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.muada.com (sequoia.muada.com [83.149.65.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3607128C153 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.4] (static-167-138-7-89.ipcom.comunitel.net [89.7.138.167] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by sequoia.muada.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n6K67rbl084811 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:07:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from iljitsch@muada.com) Message-Id: From: Iljitsch van Beijnum To: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:07:59 +0200 References: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> <4A5FA514.3020303@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:08:10 -0000 On 17 jul 2009, at 2:07, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> May we call it for Monday then? (only day I can attend, so I'm >> obviously biased). > Yes, please, let's decide soon. Monday seems as good as any. We need to pull the trigger at some point... A few more people have participated in the doodle but the results haven't really changed: monday 17, tuesday 7, wednesday 15, thursday 14. From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Jul 20 10:20:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3253A6B32 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:20:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.754 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.754 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x9Z0HKPrKHIB for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (properopus-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f04:392::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2C73A6834 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n6KHKUvu053507 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:20:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> <4A5FA514.3020303@cisco.com>

Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:20:29 -0700 To: homegate@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:20:43 -0000 Some of us need to plan our other evenings. Given that there is no WG leadership yet, and given that this is an informal meeting, and given that Jason already suggested Monday night, let's just go with it. He or someone else can pick a bar with food and let the list know. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From oran@cisco.com Mon Jul 20 11:04:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7214F28C1CA for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.164 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.164 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.435, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oL5svBphIy11 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A994E3A6B32 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:04:04 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKtOZEqrR7PD/2dsb2JhbAC6D4gjjjMFhAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,235,1246838400"; d="scan'208";a="178194648" Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Jul 2009 18:03:37 +0000 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6KI3bv6024858; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:03:37 -0700 Received: from sjc-vpnasa-311.cisco.com (sjc-vpnasa-311.cisco.com [10.21.105.57]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6KI3Zrp010668; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:03:36 GMT Message-Id: <5F2A585E-1E82-4F4D-B76B-78629B1B4686@cisco.com> From: David R Oran To: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:03:35 -0400 References: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> <4A5FA514.3020303@cisco.com>

X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=573; t=1248113017; x=1248977017; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=oran@cisco.com; z=From:=20David=20R=20Oran=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[homegate]=20Meeting=20time=20in=20Stoc kholm? |Sender:=20; bh=3FW9ZbXTtJp3V84q9gfCirrXbIgMkYBJV/u3expu9LQ=; b=qV/nSQ6EUucG0SUj0i9ryBRBbzFLQM9Fhep4FAzZEsIprY3g3VVL8mLsnm 3G1OSvCyTSW4aMnXRGoTFHDTfckqQAHxi9p+vbhjeqes+CdY0KCT531unDlM mHtIrwRSdo; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=oran@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); Cc: homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:04:13 -0000 Confirmed. Monday night it is. On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Some of us need to plan our other evenings. Given that there is no > WG leadership yet, and given that this is an informal meeting, and > given that Jason already suggested Monday night, let's just go with > it. He or someone else can pick a bar with food and let the list know. > > --Paul Hoffman, Director > --VPN Consortium > _______________________________________________ > homegate mailing list > homegate@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homegate From ajs@shinkuro.com Mon Jul 20 14:36:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5253A6D7E for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:36:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P-P-ivSlBJRV for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF703A6CF6 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.99.102] (CPE00116b6265ec-CM00195eefd958.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [174.114.84.135]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE4242FE8ED5; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:24:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Andrew Sullivan To: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) References: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> <4A5FA514.3020303@cisco.com>

Message-Id: <64491BB5-3C3A-45C2-81B1-7613E0C99AB6@shinkuro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:24:55 -0400 Cc: "homegate@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:36:26 -0000 I don't know about others, but I've now filled the rest of the week, so I cN only make it Monday (although I assume I'll be able to sell my social ticket if this meeting is moved to Tues). Andrew Sullivan ajs@shinkuro.com On 2009-07-20, at 13:20, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Some of us need to plan our other evenings. Given that there is no > WG leadership yet, and given that this is an informal meeting, and > given that Jason already suggested Monday night, let's just go with > it. He or someone else can pick a bar with food and let the list know. > > --Paul Hoffman, Director > --VPN Consortium > _______________________________________________ > homegate mailing list > homegate@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homegate From iljitsch@muada.com Tue Jul 21 07:51:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD433A6E85 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.283 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.283 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.684, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FH+Rs01f34wl for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.muada.com (sequoia.muada.com [83.149.65.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E403A6E81 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from claw.it.uc3m.es (claw.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.55]) (authenticated bits=0) by sequoia.muada.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n6LEoD1t097831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:50:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from iljitsch@muada.com) Message-Id: <53CD5209-83E9-4EAD-9E07-704B19732FFD@muada.com> From: Iljitsch van Beijnum To: David R Oran In-Reply-To: <5F2A585E-1E82-4F4D-B76B-78629B1B4686@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:50:20 +0200 References: <4A5DC2D5.50307@cisco.com> <4A5FA514.3020303@cisco.com>

<5F2A585E-1E82-4F4D-B76B-78629B1B4686@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: Paul Hoffman , homegate@ietf.org Subject: Re: [homegate] Meeting time in Stockholm? X-BeenThere: homegate@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Broadband Home Gateway Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:51:11 -0000 On 20 jul 2009, at 20:03, David R Oran wrote: > Confirmed. Monday night it is. Apparently that didn't stop people from participating int the poll. Rest assured that monday was still in the lead as I closed it just now, though. What time do we meet where? From fred@cisco.com Tue Jul 21 08:05:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: homegate@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB9528C2D3 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:05:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.589 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.589 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RHA1C99QXe4G for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB43B3A6848 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:05:01 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAEd1ZUqrR7O6/2dsb2JhbAC6Bogjj24Fgi2BXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,240,1246838400"; d="scan'208";a="39792643" Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Jul 2009 15:04:39 +0000 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LF4cXj016832; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:04:38 -0700 Received: from [192.168.15.230] (sjc-vpn5-1429.cisco.com [10.21.93.149]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6LF4aXI004628; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:04:37 GMT Message-Id: From: Fred Baker To: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: <39890251-DFCD-40B8-92F6-E420425F2F50@nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:04:36 -0700 References: