From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Fri Jan 4 06:33:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3174621F88CA for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 06:33:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.691 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.691 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=1.908, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CxEW8mtvAtrX for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 06:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-f173.google.com (mail-we0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CC321F879D for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 06:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id z2so7525940wey.4 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 06:33:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lnh/i8hVxnW3HS4PufKq/EjccemeQ658/KNL/igdRBM=; b=cZk/28n+r6aLczNgwhlaMxw27KwWDvyJk9EUYdjkZwLvxfF2SctWFE0lFP8za/PqlD QB1/A5TXCQ3scmGXvBqjzLzhrgmzwos8gXm0iZ8l3xvboBVby+QfkPELkO6MKuB809t9 8yLUpXEK92p6dQTYGULyEwPIyCGyvYR8GWgUsoHsZv3dBHz94iqpaIeRXi+Q9TvYSFsS v2BWlAmMHE1nznBeXgT1OfQ4xOZmdwGHYOfAfm2M3PVdhsBqKfSApqMjij1AFWY/Rnqu xYt0nYGXel75z8I1LJYjW/oUQ2yhYA8gcV4QRJe7vEMmN2FeeI0ndw0bsaNS4sFaLgBF 1S5w== X-Received: by 10.180.109.10 with SMTP id ho10mr51782398wib.9.1357310034758; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 06:33:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (host-2-102-219-29.as13285.net. [2.102.219.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h19sm94121699wiv.7.2013.01.04.06.33.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Jan 2013 06:33:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50E6E874.2000505@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 14:34:28 +0000 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: homenet@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [homenet] FYI: Computer Security and the Modern Home | January 2013 | Communications of the ACM X-BeenThere: homenet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 14:33:57 -0000 This seems useful as background for a homenet security analysis: http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2013/1/158768-computer-security-and-the-modern-home/fulltext Regards Brian Carpenter From mike@mtcc.com Tue Jan 8 17:38:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC51011E80FB for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:38:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TlDMVcVz3rfH for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtcc.com (mtcc.com [IPv6:2001:5a8:4:9fe0:224:8cff:feaa:6d9b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4BF11E80D3 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from takifugu.mtcc.com (takifugu.mtcc.com [50.0.18.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by mtcc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r091cjBS009612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:38:46 -0800 Message-ID: <50ECCA25.5060609@mtcc.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:38:45 -0800 From: Michael Thomas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 Thunderbird/2.0.0.22 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=588; t=1357695527; x=1358559527; c=relaxed/simple; s=thundersaddle.kirkwood; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=mtcc.com; i=mike@mtcc.com; z=From:=20Michael=20Thomas=20 |Subject:=20moribund |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22=22=20 |Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B=20 format=3Dflowed |Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit |MIME-Version:=201.0; bh=EagNQgln6K7pSf67iTd9dSzFEd3gEsE6apONIIPN4SQ=; b=HKdTUCUuP/PcV72YCrpfDrvr4/h2GfroC2mIhpdzkqm6x9LzRJ3HgwfDYS KICEUM9FnK+pNASJWyjDs5RcsTSP7lSdM9hDa6H/68kPJPCkrewcvtUJUx/7 XCfTK4BGFhwMZ83rqqBx3uc2j9ag8gB0vyZ/qjRLXItXrxb7nw7xw=; Authentication-Results: mtcc.com; v=0.1; dkim=pass header.i=mike@mtcc.com ( sig from mtcc.com/thundersaddle.kirkwood verified; ); dkim-asp=pass header.From=mike@mtcc.com Subject: [homenet] moribund X-BeenThere: homenet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:38:58 -0000 Or perhaps this group is still a food coma from Thanksgiving? It's sort of a shame that the naming problem seems to be getting short shrift due to a procrustean charter which has turned the problem into a grotesquerie of bridged multicast, unpronouncable .unique's along with the jousting dwarves astride pig and dog [*]. I'd like to think that we can do substantially better than that, and actually have something that will work well in our new mobile and wireless world that isn't completely other from our DNS. alas, Mike [*] if you don't understand, wait a season From mark@townsley.net Mon Jan 21 09:25:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C793721F85AB for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:25:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5YZ0BFvP654V for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ea0-f181.google.com (mail-ea0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DA021F859D for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ea0-f181.google.com with SMTP id i13so1578305eaa.26 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:25:54 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date :message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=gli/v9ACkGgwTqAqglXAnwEH8jLiKoTeqMZa5a9ISH8=; b=SPahisMxpzB0thS1YvVH0FMBGchzHecG87hpRlkllpstwxgjXkx16x3GxUVBww+jV8 sg250rOO5iC5XlLA3EqeHGPe69b4M6mJunGtY6Lg8ztLJkSuV7DRF4rOaDmawsIl7UMg mp5MR1PrN8eb+Tob99bUwS5Wwxgz1nNxxCx9MzF0Qp7ZhYkVDzzwVdr7n4ra90tubDr1 ahTijJBzHE+7i4pe6zoZbI898oeY2bEwVMRDHCtNHmJ6XlQeZgxXGQA1HQGhjClFTNoh zGqdTRYuViPlseig30hZMSOyOCCqZNUndDC9bA/vKZEq1wPU9KxVkfaoub1Hj14SYWKp lfbw== X-Received: by 10.14.3.195 with SMTP id 43mr62142170eeh.36.1358789153798; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:420:c0c1:8:d6a:4406:ea14:ad72? ([2001:420:c0c1:8:d6a:4406:ea14:ad72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 46sm23150099eeg.4.2013.01.21.09.25.52 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:25:53 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Townsley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:25:51 +0100 Message-Id: <2340CF1A-F9C4-4592-92FF-A08309B9554C@townsley.net> To: "homenet@ietf.org Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkfh0A51oKe5x6M6IjiqY8SU5VKnszWEsllmIRF52YsRJwcR9yEP8Bf9gXya0zUzKSmpOCk Subject: [homenet] Running code in Orlando X-BeenThere: homenet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:25:55 -0000 Group, Happy new year everyone. The next IETF will be upon us soon. Last IETF, we had two implementations based on = draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment and = draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-autoconfig running about. Bugs in code as well as = bugs in specs were found. We had a number of people bringing along their = hosts and plugging them into the various router ports, and people = randomly changing the wiring to see if would keep working. Ironically, = uplinks to the outside world gave us some of the biggest headaches, and = with better planning we should be able to alleviate those problems if we = do this again. In any case, it was overall a positive experience, and = we're considering now whether or not to try and do it again.=20 If you have an implementation of a protocol within the scope of the = homenet charter and homenet architecture (draft-ietf-homenet-arch-06) = based on an internet draft targeted to the homenet working group that = you would like to test with others, please send the list or chairs an = email so we can evaluate whether or not to schedule a place for you to = get together and work with others in person in Orlando. Note that this = isn't for "showcasing", but for working... so be expected to configure, = reconfigure, and change code on the fly accordingly.=20 Please let us know ASAP, as March is coming soon! Thanks, - Mark & Ray=20