From nobody Tue Jul 23 13:17:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hr-rt@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hr-rt@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70C512039B; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:17:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lqcZwGqmgFpW; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F7C5120352; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.110.112]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hq1Dg-0007D8-4x; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:17:08 +0200 From: Mallory Knodel Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-016E4FF2-6FA2-4080-AAF4-180C032DEE6E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:16:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5da67624-ace5-6d60-a087-5f7c3c024095@article19.org> In-Reply-To: <5da67624-ace5-6d60-a087-5f7c3c024095@article19.org> To: hrpc@irtf.org, hr-rt@irtf.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16D57) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Scan-Signature: f3d1e7b0e1870f2691f17ae931629edf Archived-At: Subject: Re: [HR-rt] Learning from reviews X-BeenThere: hr-rt@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Human Rights Protocol Considerations Review Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 20:17:17 -0000 --Apple-Mail-016E4FF2-6FA2-4080-AAF4-180C032DEE6E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, As per the today=E2=80=99s session (notes forthcoming), the HR-RT list will b= e closed immediately. And: > * CCing the HRPC list if someone in HRPC conducts a review and cites > RFC 8280, Please note the clarification on this point made today. Folks using RFC8280 o= r the Guidelines draft to do reviews should summarise and present learnings f= rom that review process in HRPC. This is in contrast to including the HRPC l= ist in discussion about that review alongside the ongoing RG discussion. Tha= t wouldn=E2=80=99t be helpful so please do not do that. Thanks, -M --=20 Mallory Knodel Head of Digital :: article19.org gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780 > On 30 May 2019, at 02:57, Mallory Knodel wrote: >=20 > Hi everyone, >=20 > In order to make the learnings from draft reviews against RFC 8280 more > visible and part of the chartered work of HRPC, we have taken some > recent steps: >=20 > * Encouraged hr-rt (human rights review team) subscribers to share > updates on reviews that they're conducting using RFC 8280 to the hrpc > list instead. And the hr-rt list will be closed down due to redundancy. >=20 > * Created a new IRTF-HRPC repository called "reviews" in Github to > track these reviews and learnings: https://github.com/IRTF-HRPC/reviews >=20 > So, if you are someone who is interested in using RFC 8280 or the > guidelines draft to conduct reviews, please feed that work back into > HRPC by: >=20 > * Sending a message to HRPC about drafts that might be interesting > because of a) clear connection to RFC 8280, b) requests from authors or > engagement with RFC 8280 in the I-D drafting process, or c) existence of > a human rights considerations section in an I-D. >=20 > * CCing the HRPC list if someone in HRPC conducts a review and cites > RFC 8280, >=20 > * Discussing on the list and in meetings about learnings gleaned from > the review process when using RFC 8280 or the guidelines draft. >=20 > * When you've sent a review (hopefully with HRPC on CC) please follow > up on HRPC with an additional note on the utility or appropriateness, > &c. of RFC 8280 in the analysis. >=20 > Thanks all, > -Mallory > --=20 > Mallory Knodel > Head of Digital :: article19.org > gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > HR-rt mailing list > HR-rt@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hr-rt --Apple-Mail-016E4FF2-6FA2-4080-AAF4-180C032DEE6E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

As per the today=E2=80= =99s session (notes forthcoming), the HR-RT list will be closed immediately.=

And:

* CCing the HRPC lis= t if someone in HRPC conducts a review and cites
RFC 8280,<= /div>

Please note the clarification on= this point made today. Folks using RFC8280 or the Guidelines draft to do re= views should summarise and present learnings from that review process in HRP= C. This is in contrast to including the HRPC list in discussion about that r= eview alongside the ongoing RG discussion. That wouldn=E2=80=99t be helpful s= o please do not do that.

Thanks,
-M
-- 
Mallory Knodel
Head of Digital ::&= nbsp;article19.org
gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9  = B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780

On 30 May 2019, at= 02:57, Mallory Knodel <mallory@= article19.org> wrote:

Hi everyone,

In order to mak= e the learnings from draft reviews against RFC 8280 more
vis= ible and part of the chartered work of HRPC, we have taken some
recent steps:

* Encouraged hr-rt (huma= n rights review team) subscribers to share
updates on review= s that they're conducting using RFC 8280 to the hrpc
list in= stead. And the hr-rt list will be closed down due to redundancy.
<= span>
* Created a new IRTF-HRPC repository called "reviews"= in Github to
track these reviews and learnings: https://github.com/IRTF-HRPC/reviews

So, if you are someone who is interested= in using RFC 8280 or the
guidelines draft to conduct review= s, please feed that work back into
HRPC by:
=
* Sending a message to HRPC about drafts that might be int= eresting
because of a) clear connection to RFC 8280, b) requ= ests from authors or
engagement with RFC 8280 in the I-D dra= fting process, or c) existence of
a human rights considerati= ons section in an I-D.

* CCing the HRPC li= st if someone in HRPC conducts a review and cites
RFC 8280,<= /span>

* Discussing on the list and in meetings a= bout learnings gleaned from
the review process when using RFC= 8280 or the guidelines draft.

* When you'= ve sent a review (hopefully with HRPC on CC) please follow
u= p on HRPC with an additional note on the utility or appropriateness,<= br>&c. of RFC 8280 in the analysis.

Thanks all,
-Mallory
--
= Mallory Knodel
Head of Digital :: article19.org
gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B= 240 BCD9  B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780

___= ____________________________________________
HR-rt mailing l= ist
HR-rt@irtf.org
https:/= /www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hr-rt
= = --Apple-Mail-016E4FF2-6FA2-4080-AAF4-180C032DEE6E-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 16:28:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hr-rt@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hr-rt@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978A01209D9; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:27:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zM5w8t7rvqPN; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com (balrog.mythic-beasts.com [IPv6:2a00:1098:0:82:1000:0:2:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 196641209A0; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.46.28.66] (port=64035 helo=[10.77.3.144]) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hq4C8-0004mm-Da; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:27:48 +0100 From: Colin Perkins Message-Id: <140A493A-3352-4E1F-9758-31173DD74AB5@csperkins.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_472E82C8-C4DF-43F2-949E-F9200487DC58" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:27:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: hrpc@irtf.org, hr-rt@irtf.org To: Mallory Knodel References: <5da67624-ace5-6d60-a087-5f7c3c024095@article19.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 14 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [HR-rt] Learning from reviews X-BeenThere: hr-rt@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Human Rights Protocol Considerations Review Team List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 23:27:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_472E82C8-C4DF-43F2-949E-F9200487DC58 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks, Mallory. I=E2=80=99ll work with the secretariat to close the = HR-RT list. Discussion should transfer to the main HRPC list. Colin > On 23 Jul 2019, at 16:16, Mallory Knodel = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > As per the today=E2=80=99s session (notes forthcoming), the HR-RT list = will be closed immediately. >=20 > And: >=20 >> * CCing the HRPC list if someone in HRPC conducts a review and cites >> RFC 8280, >=20 >=20 > Please note the clarification on this point made today. Folks using = RFC8280 or the Guidelines draft to do reviews should summarise and = present learnings from that review process in HRPC. This is in contrast = to including the HRPC list in discussion about that review alongside the = ongoing RG discussion. That wouldn=E2=80=99t be helpful so please do not = do that. >=20 > Thanks, > -M >=20 > --=20 > Mallory Knodel > Head of Digital :: article19.org > gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780 >=20 > On 30 May 2019, at 02:57, Mallory Knodel > wrote: >=20 >> Hi everyone, >>=20 >> In order to make the learnings from draft reviews against RFC 8280 = more >> visible and part of the chartered work of HRPC, we have taken some >> recent steps: >>=20 >> * Encouraged hr-rt (human rights review team) subscribers to share >> updates on reviews that they're conducting using RFC 8280 to the hrpc >> list instead. And the hr-rt list will be closed down due to = redundancy. >>=20 >> * Created a new IRTF-HRPC repository called "reviews" in Github to >> track these reviews and learnings: = https://github.com/IRTF-HRPC/reviews = >>=20 >> So, if you are someone who is interested in using RFC 8280 or the >> guidelines draft to conduct reviews, please feed that work back into >> HRPC by: >>=20 >> * Sending a message to HRPC about drafts that might be interesting >> because of a) clear connection to RFC 8280, b) requests from authors = or >> engagement with RFC 8280 in the I-D drafting process, or c) existence = of >> a human rights considerations section in an I-D. >>=20 >> * CCing the HRPC list if someone in HRPC conducts a review and cites >> RFC 8280, >>=20 >> * Discussing on the list and in meetings about learnings gleaned from >> the review process when using RFC 8280 or the guidelines draft. >>=20 >> * When you've sent a review (hopefully with HRPC on CC) please follow >> up on HRPC with an additional note on the utility or appropriateness, >> &c. of RFC 8280 in the analysis. >>=20 >> Thanks all, >> -Mallory >> --=20 >> Mallory Knodel >> Head of Digital :: article19.org >> gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> HR-rt mailing list >> HR-rt@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hr-rt = > _______________________________________________ > HR-rt mailing list > HR-rt@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hr-rt = --=20 Colin Perkins https://csperkins.org/ --Apple-Mail=_472E82C8-C4DF-43F2-949E-F9200487DC58 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks, Mallory. I=E2=80=99ll work with the secretariat to = close the HR-RT list. Discussion should transfer to the main HRPC = list.

Colin



On 23 = Jul 2019, at 16:16, Mallory Knodel <mallory@article19.org> wrote:

Hi,

As per the today=E2=80=99s session (notes = forthcoming), the HR-RT list will be closed immediately.

And:

* CCing the HRPC = list if someone in HRPC conducts a review and cites
RFC = 8280,

Please = note the clarification on this point made today. Folks using RFC8280 or = the Guidelines draft to do reviews should summarise and present = learnings from that review process in HRPC. This is in contrast to = including the HRPC list in discussion about that review alongside the = ongoing RG discussion. That wouldn=E2=80=99t be helpful so please do not = do that.

Thanks,
-M

-- 
Mallory Knodel
Head of Digital :: article19.org
gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 = 65A3 B240 BCD9  B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780

On 30 May 2019, at 02:57, Mallory Knodel = <mallory@article19.org> wrote:

Hi everyone,

In order to make the = learnings from draft reviews against RFC 8280 more
visible and part of the chartered work of = HRPC, we have taken some
recent = steps:

* Encouraged hr-rt (human rights review team) subscribers to = share
updates on reviews that = they're conducting using RFC 8280 to the hrpc
list instead. And the hr-rt list will be closed down due to = redundancy.

* Created a new IRTF-HRPC repository called = "reviews" in Github to
track these = reviews and learnings: https://github.com/IRTF-HRPC/reviews

So, = if you are someone who is interested in using RFC 8280 or the
guidelines draft to conduct reviews, please = feed that work back into
HRPC = by:

* Sending a message to HRPC about drafts that might be = interesting
because of a) clear = connection to RFC 8280, b) requests from authors or
engagement with RFC 8280 in the I-D drafting = process, or c) existence of
a = human rights considerations section in an I-D.

* CCing the HRPC list = if someone in HRPC conducts a review and cites
RFC 8280,

* Discussing on the list and in meetings = about learnings gleaned from
the = review process when using RFC 8280 or the guidelines draft.

* = When you've sent a review (hopefully with HRPC on CC) please = follow
up on HRPC with an = additional note on the utility or appropriateness,
&c. of RFC 8280 in the = analysis.

Thanks all,
-Mallory
-- 
Mallory Knodel
Head of = Digital :: article19.org
gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 =  B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780

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