From nobody Thu Aug 22 14:25:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hrpc@irtf.org Delivered-To: hrpc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B741200A4; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:25:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: hrpc@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hrpc@irtf.org Message-ID: <156650914005.14882.3561952591314171025@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:25:40 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03.txt X-BeenThere: hrpc@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "mail@nielstenoever.net" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 21:25:40 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations RG of the IRTF. Title : Freedom of Association on the Internet Authors : Stéphane Couture Joseph Lorenzo Hall Niels ten Oever Gisela Perez de Acha Filename : draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2019-08-22 Abstract: This document establishes the link between the Internet architecture and the ability of people to exercise their right to freedom of assembly and association online. The Internet increasingly mediates our lives, our relationships and our ability to exercise our human rights. As a forum, it provides a global public space despite being built on predominantly private infrastructure. Since Internet protocols play a central role in the management, development and use of the Internet, the relation between protocols and the aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adverse impacts should be mitigated. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-hrpc-association/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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The Internet increasingly mediates > our lives, our relationships and our ability to exercise our human > rights. As a forum, it provides a global public space despite being > built on predominantly private infrastructure. Since Internet > protocols play a central role in the management, development and use > of the Internet, the relation between protocols and the > aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adverse impacts > should be mitigated. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-hrpc-association/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > hrpc mailing list > hrpc@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc > --=20 Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 --00000000000003aa8a0590bb5bbf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is mostly to refresh, more bigger changes to co= me

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 17:25 <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations RG of= the IRTF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= Freedom of Association on the Internet
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: St= =C3=A9phane Couture
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-irt= f-hrpc-association-03.txt
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2019-08-22

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document establishes the link between the Internet archit= ecture
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and the ability of people to exercise their right to freedom o= f
=C2=A0 =C2=A0assembly and association online.=C2=A0 The Internet increasing= ly mediates
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0built on predominantly private infrastructure.=C2=A0 Since Int= ernet
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adverse impac= ts
=C2=A0 =C2=A0should be mitigated.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= irtf-hrpc-association/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hr= pc-association-03
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-03


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: = https://josephhall.org/gpg-key
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Thanks, Joe On 23/08/2019 00:27, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > This is mostly to refresh, more bigger changes to come >=20 > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 17:25 > wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol > Considerations RG of the IRTF. >=20 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0: Freedom of Association on the Internet > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= : St=C3=A9phane Couture > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Joseph Lorenzo Hall > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Niels ten Oever > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gisela Perez de Acha > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : d= raft-irtf-hrpc-association-03.txt > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0: 25 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 : 2019-08-22 >=20 > Abstract: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0This document establishes the link between the Interne= t architecture > =C2=A0 =C2=A0and the ability of people to exercise their right to f= reedom of > =C2=A0 =C2=A0assembly and association online.=C2=A0 The Internet in= creasingly mediates > =C2=A0 =C2=A0our lives, our relationships and our ability to exerci= se our human > =C2=A0 =C2=A0rights.=C2=A0 As a forum, it provides a global public = space despite being > =C2=A0 =C2=A0built on predominantly private infrastructure.=C2=A0 S= ince Internet > =C2=A0 =C2=A0protocols play a central role in the management, devel= opment and use > =C2=A0 =C2=A0of the Internet, the relation between protocols and th= e > =C2=A0 =C2=A0aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adver= se impacts > =C2=A0 =C2=A0should be mitigated. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-hrpc-association/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-0= 3 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-03 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org > . >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > hrpc mailing list > hrpc@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc >=20 > --=20 > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.= org] > 1401 K ST NW 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amelia Andersdotter [2019-06-12 | 15:43:39 +0530]:= > Anonymity is a human right, and > can be crucial for freedom of expression, whistleblowing or criticism. +1 to what Niels stated. > Normally, human rights are obligations on governments and duties on > companies to respect individuals. The attribution problem, however, > seems to me to arise when governments or companies find that individual= s > have not respected their rights, or when individuals have not respected= > other individuals. Most discussions of international human rights law today include=20 "positive" rights (i.e., obligations on governments to protect against=20 human rights abuses, rather than merely obligations to refrain from=20 committing such abuses). Given this, I feel the "attribution problem"=20 falls squarely within the fold of these discussions. Further, the ICCPR requires *legal* prohibition of specific kinds of=20 speech (which can broadly be called hate speech). A legal prohibition=20 is not really useful unless there can be prosecution. Thus, imaginably, = there is a duty upon signatories to prosecute those engaged in speech=20 that violates Art. 20(2) of the ICCPR, and that can only begin with=20 attribution. The Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women in a 2018 report[1] note= s: > States have a human rights obligation to ensure that both State and non= -State agents refrain from engaging in any act of discrimination or viole= nce against women. States have a direct responsibility concerning violenc= e perpetrated by agents of the State itself. They also have due diligence= obligations to prevent, investigate and punish acts of violence against = women committed by private companies, such as Internet intermediaries, in= accordance with article 2 (e) of the Convention on the Elimination of Al= l Forms of Discrimination against Women.=20 and > According to article 4 (c) of the Declaration on the Elimination of Vio= lence against Women, States should exercise due diligence to prevent, inv= estigate and punish acts of violence against women Investigation and punishment of online violence against women would,=20 presumably, have a link to attribution, not just in terms of corporate=20 actors and intermediaries but those who have committed the violence, who = are often individuals. If we are thinking about human rights concerns, then attribution would=20 impact it. [1]: http://daccess-ods.un.org/access.nsf/Get?Open&DS=3DA/HRC/38/47&Lan= g=3DE Niels Ten Oever [2019-06-12 | 16:08:34 +0530]: > accountability for the powerful, and protection for the individual. While I broadly agree with this (for instance, I feel that domain name=20 registration information should be public for non-individuals), I'm not=20 sure how it applies in this case. A legal remedy for rights violations=20 lies not just against powerful corporations, and the obligation of the=20 State is not limited to punishing corporations. --=20 Pranesh Prakash Fellow, Centre for Internet and Society tel:+91 80 40926283 | xmpp:pranesh@cis-india.org https://cis-india.org | https://twitter.com/pranesh --KKS4P2eT5XjizHIce4RnDaUAIMUCUUxrN-- --Qx0qut7cOVo9OJFFzwgFq3wkwPPMBgHec Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEvSlnTi01kvotCmw2TSqUEBVZI3UFAl1kEVEACgkQTSqUEBVZ I3VW5g/+NqnDODDP0ckiFzCBckiWO3+aTa742ygY1k5prolTy6GAQcStzK5g4VM3 BA+JsW07vNvFvt4o9otMubE74X5frLNivG1wd2II3ejfng7Sh3dfghrdHdEwSRuk KtZefxMVOgarP51FqFU1RdmYCK8QZCmU13/zOD2Sn8zwvm+kE8gXP2ZPj0kztgVZ v23jBL3r4DscbrozMmtgRyea1K6X06sd99MFdP5eJBBpOayClEqBclsfrxhIUxbA 9b97dqs+pbIda2uiynqfvUBimmnARhNJoT+yj0/1U1dTdNgEYwC5gbff7eDNrwfM 0PBGf+/wghyrGoifFeXYVUQfM6+qlBNhiqsgz7/cFljqep/Rf76KuWpSW0pCgEO+ qCyrZjv3fA0zEdszO4hJh1m3M8pqunU1m1mo7UlgN8fcBB78sOb9SKyspawmE5/h GK+KggFQS2jXKEwPujWUXBuQV1fTLwkhrbeAuAq60apW6jySsjk8CFEmIeR2QdSk zWDILaAuRoNMDl9O60OHqnSjijCiDQ8J9MSHYXGcyqmhgc3m6ZKLlEJCBj8mzjmw torFtyK/eGhY3cCNm9TpC0kXm/5XgSRhF766XL4XW4Q8xoeVj1b4xKlkHNQwTFI0 3TATW1dQFAFkNn5B+YqBkg/gVFxnpTUnaJ1rI8Ezae39ruHzVkw= =NP2E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qx0qut7cOVo9OJFFzwgFq3wkwPPMBgHec--