From nobody Sun Mar 8 18:14:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hrpc@irtf.org Delivered-To: hrpc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD273A0D26; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 18:13:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: hrpc@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.120.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hrpc@irtf.org Message-ID: <158371642724.6839.16787912257770973616@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2020 18:13:47 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04.txt X-BeenThere: hrpc@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: hrpc discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2020 01:14:05 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations RG of the IRTF. Title : Freedom of Association on the Internet Authors : Niels ten Oever Gisela Perez de Acha Stéphane Couture Joseph Lorenzo Hall Filename : draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2020-03-08 Abstract: This document discuss the relationships between the Internet architecture and the ability of people to exercise their right to freedom of assembly and association online. The Internet increasingly mediates our lives, our relationships and our ability to exercise our human rights. As a forum, it provides a global public space despite being built on predominantly private infrastructure. Since Internet protocols play a central role in the management, development and use of the Internet, the relation between protocols and the aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adverse impacts should be mitigated. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Mar 8 18:29:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hrpc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hrpc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687043A0D65 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 18:29:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cf4Pa1aHuvrB for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 18:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homere.koumbit.net (homere.koumbit.net [199.58.80.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C52B93A087B for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 18:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm1-f49.google.com (mail-wm1-f49.google.com [209.85.128.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: steph@stephcouture.info) by homere.koumbit.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 783E51E4125E for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 21:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-f49.google.com with SMTP id a132so8146657wme.1 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2020 18:29:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2kkWuIYOnB2gkfSwXNoSVNhFB42BL4/+wqB0wf99ZW5XDkefo3 mNRax6LK97oXBNaLWdqBJQ18BVmvIVdsx+xiYEQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vtzzH/JBzUQNJ/4rHyPR61DTrl/OiZOeqPLgBqZNwpyAmDYwt8O/QK/dZz3bsOYJkDxLgGH53uXMHQmJB9wH2Q= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:1fc9:: with SMTP id f192mr11527325wmf.4.1583717369175; Sun, 08 Mar 2020 18:29:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <158371642724.6839.16787912257770973616@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <158371642724.6839.16787912257770973616@ietfa.amsl.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane_Couture?= Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 21:29:18 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: hrpc@irtf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000036e41005a061efd8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04.txt X-BeenThere: hrpc@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: hrpc discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2020 01:29:34 -0000 --00000000000036e41005a061efd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Just a quick notice. I quickly re-submitted a new revision of the draft, because it was expired and the deadline for draft submission is tomorrow. This one is only with minor revisions though. I'll try to come up with more before IETF. Best, St=C3=A9phane Couture Le dim. 8 mars 2020 =C3=A0 21:13, a =C3=A9crit : > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations RG > of the IRTF. > > Title : Freedom of Association on the Internet > Authors : Niels ten Oever > Gisela Perez de Acha > St=C3=A9phane Couture > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > Filename : draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04.txt > Pages : 25 > Date : 2020-03-08 > > Abstract: > This document discuss the relationships between the Internet > architecture and the ability of people to exercise their right to > freedom of assembly and association online. The Internet > increasingly mediates our lives, our relationships and our ability to > exercise our human rights. As a forum, it provides a global public > space despite being built on predominantly private infrastructure. > Since Internet protocols play a central role in the management, > development and use of the Internet, the relation between protocols > and the aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adverse > impacts should be mitigated. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-hrpc-association/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > hrpc mailing list > hrpc@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc > --00000000000036e41005a061efd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

Just a quick notice. I quickly = re-submitted a new revision of the draft, because it was expired and the de= adline for draft submission is tomorrow. This one is=C2=A0only with minor r= evisions though. I'll try to come up with more before IETF.
<= br>
Best,

St=C3=A9phane Couture

Le=C2=A0dim. 8 mars 2020 =C3=A0=C2=A021:13, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
<= /div>

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations RG of= the IRTF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= Freedom of Association on the Internet
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Niel= s ten Oever
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gisela Perez de Acha
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 St=C3=A9phane Couture
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Joseph Lorenzo Hall
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-irt= f-hrpc-association-04.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 25
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2020-03-08

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document discuss the relationships between the Internet =C2=A0 =C2=A0architecture and the ability of people to exercise their right= to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0freedom of assembly and association online.=C2=A0 The Internet=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0increasingly mediates our lives, our relationships and our abi= lity to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0exercise our human rights.=C2=A0 As a forum, it provides a glo= bal public
=C2=A0 =C2=A0space despite being built on predominantly private infrastruct= ure.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Since Internet protocols play a central role in the management= ,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0development and use of the Internet, the relation between prot= ocols
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and the aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adver= se
=C2=A0 =C2=A0impacts should be mitigated.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= irtf-hrpc-association/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hr= pc-association-04
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-04


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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I did a review of the document, some thoughts below: - I would rewrite the introduction, instead of starting with hard to parse (even for fellow academics) high-level academic concepts (like socio-technical ordering and epistemic community). Why not start with a couple of examples of concrete technology discussions in the IETF and th= en draw the connection to freedom of assembly? The ongoing discussion about DNS encryption (both the pros in terms of privacy and cons in terms of consolidation) being one example. - Same for the methodology - maybe it is necessary to say a couple of words about how process tracing works? In my own PhD thesis, I try to always draw parallels between my methods and methods used in the IETF to highlight both similarities and differences. For instance, could you dra= w a parallel between process tracing and Internet measurement? That way the text will speak more to its intended audience in the IETF/IRTF. - The use of the word "significant" in the methodology reads a bit confusing, as it implies a quant approach while you used a mostly qual approach. - This needs a citation: "Freedom of association and assembly refers both to the individual right to join or leave a group and to the collect= ive right of a group to engage in a collective group and to organize itself. The draft makes for a good read but I wonder what you want people to gain from it because I think for this to be more actionable to IETF engineers it would make more sense to draw further connections to ongoing conversations. Hope this is helpful! Kind regards, --=20 Corinne Cath - Speth Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com Twitter: @C_CS On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 4:29 AM St=C3=A9phane Couture wrote: > Hi all, > > Just a quick notice. I quickly re-submitted a new revision of the draft, > because it was expired and the deadline for draft submission is tomorrow. > This one is only with minor revisions though. I'll try to come up with mo= re > before IETF. > > Best, > > St=C3=A9phane Couture > > Le dim. 8 mars 2020 =C3=A0 21:13, a =C3=A9crit= : > >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations RG >> of the IRTF. >> >> Title : Freedom of Association on the Internet >> Authors : Niels ten Oever >> Gisela Perez de Acha >> St=C3=A9phane Couture >> Joseph Lorenzo Hall >> Filename : draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04.txt >> Pages : 25 >> Date : 2020-03-08 >> >> Abstract: >> This document discuss the relationships between the Internet >> architecture and the ability of people to exercise their right to >> freedom of assembly and association online. The Internet >> increasingly mediates our lives, our relationships and our ability to >> exercise our human rights. As a forum, it provides a global public >> space despite being built on predominantly private infrastructure. >> Since Internet protocols play a central role in the management, >> development and use of the Internet, the relation between protocols >> and the aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adverse >> impacts should be mitigated. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-hrpc-association/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> hrpc mailing list >> hrpc@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc >> > _______________________________________________ > hrpc mailing list > hrpc@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc > --=20 Corinne Cath - Speth Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com Twitter: @C_CS --00000000000082580205a0815239 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=C2=A0St=C3=A9phane et al,=C2=A0

Great work! I did a rev= iew of the document, some thoughts below:

  • I would rewrite the = introduction, instead of starting with hard to parse (even for fellow acade= mics) high-level academic concepts (like socio-technical ordering and epist= emic community). Why not start with a couple of examples of concrete techno= logy discussions in the IETF and then draw the connection to freedom of ass= embly? The ongoing discussion about DNS encryption (both the pros in terms = of privacy and cons in terms of consolidation) being one example.=C2=A0
    =
  • Same for the methodology - maybe it is necessary to say a coup= le of words=C2=A0about how process tracing works? In my own PhD thesis, I t= ry to always draw parallels=C2=A0between my methods and methods used in the= IETF to highlight both similarities and=C2=A0differences. For instance, co= uld you draw a parallel=C2=A0between process tracing and Internet measureme= nt? That way the text will speak more to its intended=C2=A0audience in the = IETF/IRTF.

  • The use of the word "significant" in t= he methodology reads a bit confusing, as it implies a quant approach while = you used a mostly qual approach.=C2=A0

  • This needs a citatio= n: "Freedom of association and assembly refers both to the individual right to join or leave a group and to the collective right of a group to engage in a collective group and to organize itself.

The draft makes for a good read but I wonder= what you want people to gain from it because I think for this to be more a= ctionable to IETF engineers it would make more sense to draw further connec= tions to ongoing conversations.=C2=A0

Hope this is helpful!

=
Kind regards,=C2=A0

--
=
Corinne Cath - Speth
Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Inter= net Institute & Alan Turing Institute

Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath
Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk &am= p; corinnecath@g= mail.com
Twitter: @C_CS


On Mo= n, Mar 9, 2020 at 4:29 AM St=C3=A9phane Couture <listes@stephcouture.info> wrote:
Hi all,
<= br>
Just a quick notice. I quickly re-submitted a new revision of= the draft, because it was expired and the deadline for draft submission is= tomorrow. This one is=C2=A0only with minor revisions though. I'll try = to come up with more before IETF.

Best,
=
St=C3=A9phane Couture

Le=C2=A0dim. 8 mars 2020 =C3= =A0=C2=A021:13, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations RG of= the IRTF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= Freedom of Association on the Internet
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Niel= s ten Oever
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gisela Perez de Acha
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 St=C3=A9phane Couture
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Joseph Lorenzo Hall
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-irt= f-hrpc-association-04.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 25
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2020-03-08

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document discuss the relationships between the Internet =C2=A0 =C2=A0architecture and the ability of people to exercise their right= to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0freedom of assembly and association online.=C2=A0 The Internet=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0increasingly mediates our lives, our relationships and our abi= lity to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0exercise our human rights.=C2=A0 As a forum, it provides a glo= bal public
=C2=A0 =C2=A0space despite being built on predominantly private infrastruct= ure.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Since Internet protocols play a central role in the management= ,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0development and use of the Internet, the relation between prot= ocols
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and the aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adver= se
=C2=A0 =C2=A0impacts should be mitigated.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= irtf-hrpc-association/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hr= pc-association-04
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-04


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/


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--
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--00000000000082580205a0815239-- From nobody Tue Mar 10 08:04:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hrpc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hrpc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FE43A1440 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:04:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qPzETukm8xGg for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homere.koumbit.net (homere.koumbit.net [199.58.80.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E6603A143C for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr1-f47.google.com (mail-wr1-f47.google.com [209.85.221.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: steph@stephcouture.info) by homere.koumbit.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A25F31E41287 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f47.google.com with SMTP id p2so15512840wrw.7 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:03:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2n2soqsRTnw/BGLDEABtrzxl+njQ0DdREOjchSxkbAkstSTfVQ yT/aaUzHfwYy05elO1OJ+Ay6JfQBXUeHLIMjQvg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vsp1vLoRPi8PdjPOTGVnhgo5GhJbJZ7GTasaMDAdaaq5W5nb8h8sKC0GmaleXAHddMifOczmmmzLFs6v8QdI5U= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6902:: with SMTP id t2mr16692391wru.135.1583852636182; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:03:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <158371642724.6839.16787912257770973616@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane_Couture?= Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:03:44 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Corinne Cath Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane_Couture?= , Hrpc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c19e4605a0816d47" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04.txt X-BeenThere: hrpc@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: hrpc discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:04:02 -0000 --000000000000c19e4605a0816d47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Corinne, Thanks for this. As I mentioned, I barely made changes to it so far, and most of it was the previous version made by Niels and Gisela, but I am glad you find it great. I'll come back to this later, St=C3=A9phane Le mar. 10 mars 2020 =C3=A0 10:55, Corinne Cath a = =C3=A9crit : > Hi St=C3=A9phane et al, > > Great work! I did a review of the document, some thoughts below: > > > - I would rewrite the introduction, instead of starting with hard to > parse (even for fellow academics) high-level academic concepts (like > socio-technical ordering and epistemic community). Why not start with = a > couple of examples of concrete technology discussions in the IETF and = then > draw the connection to freedom of assembly? The ongoing discussion abo= ut > DNS encryption (both the pros in terms of privacy and cons in terms of > consolidation) being one example. > > - Same for the methodology - maybe it is necessary to say a couple of > words about how process tracing works? In my own PhD thesis, I try to > always draw parallels between my methods and methods used in the IETF = to > highlight both similarities and differences. For instance, could you d= raw a > parallel between process tracing and Internet measurement? That way th= e > text will speak more to its intended audience in the IETF/IRTF. > > - The use of the word "significant" in the methodology reads a bit > confusing, as it implies a quant approach while you used a mostly qual > approach. > > - This needs a citation: "Freedom of association and assembly refers > both to the individual right to join or leave a group and to the colle= ctive > right of a group to engage in a collective group and to organize itsel= f. > > > The draft makes for a good read but I wonder what you want people to gain > from it because I think for this to be more actionable to IETF engineers = it > would make more sense to draw further connections to ongoing conversation= s. > > Hope this is helpful! > > Kind regards, > > -- > Corinne Cath - Speth > Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute > > Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath > Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com > Twitter: @C_CS > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 4:29 AM St=C3=A9phane Couture > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Just a quick notice. I quickly re-submitted a new revision of the draft, >> because it was expired and the deadline for draft submission is tomorrow= . >> This one is only with minor revisions though. I'll try to come up with m= ore >> before IETF. >> >> Best, >> >> St=C3=A9phane Couture >> >> Le dim. 8 mars 2020 =C3=A0 21:13, a =C3=A9cri= t : >> >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations R= G >>> of the IRTF. >>> >>> Title : Freedom of Association on the Internet >>> Authors : Niels ten Oever >>> Gisela Perez de Acha >>> St=C3=A9phane Couture >>> Joseph Lorenzo Hall >>> Filename : draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04.txt >>> Pages : 25 >>> Date : 2020-03-08 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This document discuss the relationships between the Internet >>> architecture and the ability of people to exercise their right to >>> freedom of assembly and association online. The Internet >>> increasingly mediates our lives, our relationships and our ability t= o >>> exercise our human rights. As a forum, it provides a global public >>> space despite being built on predominantly private infrastructure. >>> Since Internet protocols play a central role in the management, >>> development and use of the Internet, the relation between protocols >>> and the aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adverse >>> impacts should be mitigated. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-hrpc-association/ >>> >>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 >>> >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-04 >>> >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> hrpc mailing list >>> hrpc@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> hrpc mailing list >> hrpc@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc >> > > > -- > Corinne Cath - Speth > Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Turing Institute > > Web: www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/corinne-cath > Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com > Twitter: @C_CS > --000000000000c19e4605a0816d47 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Corinne,

Thanks for this. As I menti= oned, I barely made changes to it so far, and=C2=A0most of it was the previ= ous version made by Niels and Gisela, but I am glad you find it great.=C2= =A0

I'll come back to this later,
St=C3=A9phane

Le=C2=A0mar. 10 mars 2020 =C3=A0=C2=A010:55, Corinne C= ath <corinnecath@gmail.com&= gt; a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Hi=C2=A0St=C3=A9phane et al,=C2=A0

Great work! I d= id a review of the document, some thoughts below:

  • I would rewr= ite the introduction, instead of starting with hard to parse (even for fell= ow academics) high-level academic concepts (like socio-technical ordering a= nd epistemic community). Why not start with a couple of examples of concret= e technology discussions in the IETF and then draw the connection to freedo= m of assembly? The ongoing discussion about DNS encryption (both the pros i= n terms of privacy and cons in terms of consolidation) being one example.= =C2=A0

  • Same for the methodology - maybe it is necessary to = say a couple of words=C2=A0about how process tracing works? In my own PhD t= hesis, I try to always draw parallels=C2=A0between my methods and methods u= sed in the IETF to highlight both similarities and=C2=A0differences. For in= stance, could you draw a parallel=C2=A0between process tracing and Internet= measurement? That way the text will speak more to its intended=C2=A0audien= ce in the IETF/IRTF.

  • The use of the word "significant&= quot; in the methodology reads a bit confusing, as it implies a quant appro= ach while you used a mostly qual approach.=C2=A0

  • This needs= a citation: "Freedom of association and assembly refers both to the i= ndividual right to join or leave a group and to the collective right of a group to engage in a collective group and to organize itself.

The draft makes for a good read but I wonder= what you want people to gain from it because I think for this to be more a= ctionable to IETF engineers it would make more sense to draw further connec= tions to ongoing conversations.=C2=A0

Hope this is helpful!

=
Kind regards,=C2=A0

--
Cori= nne Cath - Speth
Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan T= uring Institute

Web: www.oii.ox.= ac.uk/people/corinne-cath
Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com
Twitter: @C= _CS


On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 4:29 AM St= =C3=A9phane Couture <listes@stephcouture.info> wrote:
Hi all,

=
Just a quick notice. I quickly re-submitted a new revision of the draf= t, because it was expired and the deadline for draft submission is tomorrow= . This one is=C2=A0only with minor revisions though. I'll try to come u= p with more before IETF.

Best,

St=C3=A9phane Couture

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0dim. 8 mars 2020 =C3=A0=C2=A02= 1:13, <int= ernet-drafts@ietf.org> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations RG of= the IRTF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= Freedom of Association on the Internet
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Niel= s ten Oever
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gisela Perez de Acha
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 St=C3=A9phane Couture
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Joseph Lorenzo Hall
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-irt= f-hrpc-association-04.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 25
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2020-03-08

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document discuss the relationships between the Internet =C2=A0 =C2=A0architecture and the ability of people to exercise their right= to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0freedom of assembly and association online.=C2=A0 The Internet=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0increasingly mediates our lives, our relationships and our abi= lity to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0exercise our human rights.=C2=A0 As a forum, it provides a glo= bal public
=C2=A0 =C2=A0space despite being built on predominantly private infrastruct= ure.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Since Internet protocols play a central role in the management= ,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0development and use of the Internet, the relation between prot= ocols
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and the aforementioned rights should be analyzed and any adver= se
=C2=A0 =C2=A0impacts should be mitigated.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= irtf-hrpc-association/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-hr= pc-association-04
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /html/draft-irtf-hrpc-association-04

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-irtf-hrpc-association-04


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/


_______________________________________________
hrpc mailing list
hrpc@irtf.org
https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc
_______________________________________________
hrpc mailing list
hrpc@irtf.org
https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc


--
=
Corinn= e Cath - Speth
Ph.D. Candidate, Oxford Internet Institute & Alan Tur= ing Institute

Web: www.oii.ox.ac= .uk/people/corinne-cath
Email: ccath@turing.ac.uk & corinnecath@gmail.com
Twitter: @C_C= S
--000000000000c19e4605a0816d47-- From nobody Tue Mar 17 03:09:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hrpc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hrpc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CD53A1C2A for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:09:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cdt.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5XaBgaSutUpJ for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm1-x335.google.com (mail-wm1-x335.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::335]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 594FB3A1C27 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x335.google.com with SMTP id 25so20748256wmk.3 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:09:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cdt.org; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UN/byrzKBCi5G7qLLr14gLvbwB2YHEDHxMDk7eVvAeg=; b=LtppJfo6fgI33fkrEwdG5yf9oShvJjOfMHRbo2LbdMFPq6P11QorobvT3mK/RYuxOq 1V0m9Kvb9RjmOah3HzER5e+fNE55VG/aU+Nr89GWwY3nn9S3q/WTm1bVEHtOyyMSIt+x iHjb4A8EE4yYl4DRAUOh+LtFzab5OZliYgMLw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UN/byrzKBCi5G7qLLr14gLvbwB2YHEDHxMDk7eVvAeg=; b=SJBrjlJ7N7hWnHDlhGIEtjcPWY6UJq3bKVHri/bXOHaUkiWHQ5e3isAXmpnvj7Fqz6 WOM7it7SV/AHJS9uMS43ya+zYjy+LPanj/uX+RFGHG4eId8/o4mK2Z/nU0PtMZeQDJuZ OrTxGIcnL4zIhf/nRLLWasX6C8U7XGmHMW8Zczftd2Yf/vvsq8ptsIiWHGx73eZ9UJPG 5eGwTgnARWXCmmDjNK7fgzd0uPTrK9R258uZc82kUx7X0Mg051MceUuxmr4ev4xsYIc2 FNXwWNVPGnIv6M7C+tYg6gqN6V2q8/DDb1kCeXOadm3dcQ09T1WscCMQRC/SvMbZtmDE f8aA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ3KIhXSfG0MxQHe57hikiaHmXXSxtdyUQNwmvpasTKgadxqPqOM QK4VKnsjHE6NBnw/BNPzZczr0AU1y4KjpbYZdexy4eN34c0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vuIhPK3LVQ2MMKJ4Aj/wV0t2m8Zx723SIs3Lr2SycuQ946XYDyXvzJTxKlirr9aMwlj2gp19TseV8eyp8R/rjI= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:b187:: with SMTP id a129mr4756928wmf.56.1584439745416; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:09:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mallory Knodel Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:08:53 +0300 Message-ID: To: hrpc@irtf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000031a5e205a10a20ca" Archived-At: Subject: [hrpc] Rescheduling HRPC: Interim virtual 8 April X-BeenThere: hrpc@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: hrpc discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:09:09 -0000 --00000000000031a5e205a10a20ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear HRPC RG participants, As you will have noticed the IETF 107 agenda for virtual meetings does not include us, which is excellent and good because we have also been given the opportunity to hold a virtual interim instead on 8 April (according to a predetermined interim meeting schedule). [0] I'm writing to you to get your feedback on both time of day and the meeting's agenda. On time, please indicate your preferred time of day to *start* the meeting here: https://doodle.com/poll/gcxrx8n979xrsu5m For the agenda, we have three options: Small: A 60-minute meeting focussed on draft association Medium: A 90-minute meeting for all RG work items (we can be generous with that definition) Big: A 120-minute meeting that would parallel an in-person meeting complete with speaker presentations. Please indicate your preference on the agenda to the list or to the chairs directly: hrpc-chairs@irtf.org Avri and I will make final decisions on 31 March. Stay healthy! -Mallory [0] file:///home/mals/Downloads/April2020-RecommendedSchedule.pdf -- Mallory Knodel CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780 --00000000000031a5e205a10a20ca Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear HRPC RG participants,

As you will = have noticed the IETF 107 agenda for virtual meetings does not include us, = which is excellent and good because we have also been given the opportunity= to hold a virtual interim instead on 8 April (according to a predetermined= =C2=A0interim meeting schedule). [0]

I'm writi= ng to you to get your feedback=C2=A0on both time of day and the meeting'= ;s agenda.

On time, please indicate your preferred= time of day to *start* the meeting here:

For the agenda, we have three options:

Small: A 60-minute meeting focussed on draft association<= br clear=3D"all">
Medium: A 90-minute meeting for all RG work items (we= can be generous with that definition)
Big: A 120-minute meeting = that would parallel an in-person meeting complete with speaker presentation= s.

Please indicate your preference=C2=A0on the age= nda to the list or to the chairs directly: hrpc-chairs@irtf.org

Avri and I will m= ake final decisions on 31 March.

Stay healthy!
-Mallory

[0]=C2=A0file:///home/mals/Downloa= ds/April2020-RecommendedSchedule.pdf

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Mallory Knodel
CTO, Center fo= r Democracy and Technology
gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 = B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780

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Hi all,

We will go ahead and lock in a = 90 minute interim meeting for 12:00 UTC for Thursday, 8 April.
More on agenda to follow.

If you have= any feedback on the agenda as per my questions, please reply ASAP.

Thanks!
-Mallory

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 6= :08 AM Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.or= g> wrote:
Dear HRPC RG participants,

As you will= have noticed the IETF 107 agenda for virtual meetings does not include us,= which is excellent and good because we have also been given the opportunit= y to hold a virtual interim instead on 8 April (according to a predetermine= d=C2=A0interim meeting schedule). [0]

I'm writ= ing to you to get your feedback=C2=A0on both time of day and the meeting= 9;s agenda.

On time, please indicate your preferre= d time of day to *start* the meeting here:

For the agenda, we have thr= ee options:

Small: A 60-minute meeting focussed on= draft association
Medium: A 90-minute meeting for al= l RG work items (we can be generous with that definition)
Big: A = 120-minute meeting that would parallel an in-person meeting complete with s= peaker presentations.

Please indicate your prefere= nce=C2=A0on the agenda to the list or to the chairs directly: hrpc-chairs@irtf.org
=

Avri and I will make final decisions on 31 March.
=

Stay healthy!
-Mallory

[0]=C2=A0file:///home/mals/Downloads/April2020-RecommendedSchedule.pdf

--
Mallory Knodel
CTO, Center for Democracy and Techno= logy
gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C7= 80



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Mall= ory Knodel
CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology
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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Authenticated-As-Hash: f1842a279235a42f6aa2a2a81130733515c5a4ec X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Scan-Signature: 4868b52b90b9144be14ceb212c82ef23 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [hrpc] Rescheduling HRPC: Interim virtual 8 April X-BeenThere: hrpc@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: hrpc discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 11:41:47 -0000 Hi Mallory - I would opt for Big because I'd really like to hear Fenwick speak. Best, Niels On 3/30/20 3:56 PM, Mallory Knodel wrote: > Hi all, > > We will go ahead and lock in a 90 minute interim meeting for 12:00 UTC for Thursday, 8 April. > > More on agenda to follow. > > If you have any feedback on the agenda as per my questions, please reply ASAP. > > Thanks! > -Mallory > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 6:08 AM Mallory Knodel > wrote: > > Dear HRPC RG participants, > > As you will have noticed the IETF 107 agenda for virtual meetings does not include us, which is excellent and good because we have also been given the opportunity to hold a virtual interim instead on 8 April (according to a predetermined interim meeting schedule). [0] > > I'm writing to you to get your feedback on both time of day and the meeting's agenda. > > On time, please indicate your preferred time of day to *start* the meeting here: > https://doodle.com/poll/gcxrx8n979xrsu5m > > For the agenda, we have three options: > > Small: A 60-minute meeting focussed on draft association > Medium: A 90-minute meeting for all RG work items (we can be generous with that definition) > Big: A 120-minute meeting that would parallel an in-person meeting complete with speaker presentations. > > Please indicate your preference on the agenda to the list or to the chairs directly: hrpc-chairs@irtf.org > > Avri and I will make final decisions on 31 March. > > Stay healthy! > -Mallory > > [0] file:///home/mals/Downloads/April2020-RecommendedSchedule.pdf > > -- > Mallory Knodel > CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology > gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780 > > > > -- > Mallory Knodel > CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology > gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780 > > > _______________________________________________ > hrpc mailing list > hrpc@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hrpc > -- Niels ten Oever Researcher and PhD Candidate DATACTIVE Research Group University of Amsterdam PGP fingerprint 2458 0B70 5C4A FD8A 9488 643A 0ED8 3F3A 468A C8B3