From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Mar 14 12:34:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18913A6B58 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:34:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.632 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.632 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ckAOk75ppIfA for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1ED83A6B57 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-185.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-185.cisco.com [64.101.72.185]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77D5F40022; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:35:46 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yutaka OIWA References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> In-Reply-To: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080200040303010105050201" Cc: "HAYASHI, Tatsuya" , "http-auth@ietf.org" , Yuichi Ioku Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:34:26 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080200040303010105050201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [trimming apps-discuss] On 3/14/11 3:21 AM, Yutaka OIWA wrote: > Dear all on http-auth list, >=20 > We're suffering from the huge earthquake in east Japan. > All of our group members are completely fine and in a safe their-own ho= mes, I'm very happy to hear it! > but trains are not well working, and electric power is unstable. > Due to that power instability, my main mail server is shut down now. > I'm now writing from another back-up account. > I'm sorry for being off from the lists on a few days, and I've not trac= ked > discussions in a last few days. >=20 > At this moment, I still plan to visit Prague for the IETF. > Could I ask a favor for some of you on the list to arrange the Bar BoF = schedule > regarding HTTP authentication topics instead of us? Currently, > I understand > * Tuesday evening will be a social event, > * There may be something already on Thursday evening. > I would be grateful for your helps. >=20 > And please include at least my address in Cc for discussions, because > currently I am not subscribing for all of the lists on the mail account= s > currently working. You don't necessarily need me to attend any side meetings about http-auth, but I just reviewed my calendar and I am available at the following times between 07:00 and 22:00: SUN 14:00-15:00 (not good for a bof, but I could meet privately) TUE 11:30-13:00 (lunch -- but the secdir lunch is at this time) TUE 18:00-20:00 (before the social) TUE 20:00-22:00 (the social, but I'm not sure if I will attend) WED 07:00-08:00 (not good for a bof, but I could meet privately) THU 07:00-08:00 (not good for a bof, but I could meet privately) THU 20:00-22:00 (APPS/SEC AD dinner, but it could be moved) FRI 11:30-13:00 (lunch) FRI 13:15-17:30 (very late in the week for a meeting) That's it for me. Perhaps it makes sense to set up a Doodle poll... 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p2FKeXWS011652; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:40:33 +0200 X-CheckPoint: {4D7FCE85-B-1B221DC2-FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) with mapi; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:40:33 +0200 From: Yoav Nir To: "http-auth@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:40:31 +0200 Thread-Topic: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) Thread-Index: AcvjUTqSzT7tGmTBR8mw/PH+wMLtwQ== Message-ID: References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "HAYASHI, Tatsuya" , Yuichi Ioku Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:39:19 -0000 On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>=20 >> And please include at least my address in Cc for discussions, because >> currently I am not subscribing for all of the lists on the mail accounts >> currently working. >=20 > You don't necessarily need me to attend any side meetings about > http-auth, but I just reviewed my calendar and I am available at the > following times between 07:00 and 22:00: >=20 > SUN 14:00-15:00 (not good for a bof, but I could meet privately) > TUE 11:30-13:00 (lunch -- but the secdir lunch is at this time) > TUE 18:00-20:00 (before the social) > TUE 20:00-22:00 (the social, but I'm not sure if I will attend) > WED 07:00-08:00 (not good for a bof, but I could meet privately) > THU 07:00-08:00 (not good for a bof, but I could meet privately) > THU 20:00-22:00 (APPS/SEC AD dinner, but it could be moved) > FRI 11:30-13:00 (lunch) > FRI 13:15-17:30 (very late in the week for a meeting) >=20 > That's it for me. >=20 > Perhaps it makes sense to set up a Doodle poll... Done. http://doodle.com/nytxmcxeyd77ds4y From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Mar 15 20:43:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B7E3A63CA for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:43:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96gVNeo9JbxK for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3908D3A6359 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (dsl-251-69.dynamic-dsl.frii.net [216.17.251.69]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB5BC40022; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4D803220.1000308@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:44:32 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yoav Nir References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020304090304020408080001" Cc: "HAYASHI, Tatsuya" , "http-auth@ietf.org" , Yuichi Ioku Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:43:17 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020304090304020408080001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/15/11 2:40 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: >=20 > On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >=20 >> Perhaps it makes sense to set up a Doodle poll... >=20 > Done. http://doodle.com/nytxmcxeyd77ds4y Thanks, I voted. :) --------------ms020304090304020408080001 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIITzjCC 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X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:48:08 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 3/15/11 2:40 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: >> >> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> >>> Perhaps it makes sense to set up a Doodle poll... >> >> Done. http://doodle.com/nytxmcxeyd77ds4y > > Thanks, I voted. :) me too. Thanks, Peter and Yoav. From lef.mutualauth@gmail.com Fri Mar 25 19:29:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA833A688C for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:29:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_74=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2C6gnQe6zzxS for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F0F3A688A for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iye19 with SMTP id 19so1289855iye.31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:31:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=v5dl4oe7g8UH8iYMk5S8ox8jX0YkKNuEorYLhe1WNKg=; b=e/ppusxT6hU6bdkGUd/7sXfdwGuxaNHs7sv5hvFihTE/+yILzRWz5n/2XUFewP6qpp D8LyGMNpBm1QbNeDMhA9priwtieyGZ/TYt9desLsckb8FR1CSTSmS+gRqNquQeaDbKDK /1Nyl6qvOB2JkfH0/7/e1DoXxXlmuenZUe3ZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dY35lFLHa+wgx9QbpdBB4SwlETe0xUcWSWIIuWU8pICeUXwfhVlS2Ej+4plhtWXQXI pWJvxQKlC7jN4nq+bSRQiDIgfT1M1sNRN/NpuIglG9XS2kkxBWklf6sYMqYJQo70e997 VQ+48ksnSZw4kF2hWsCq0MjdlFXxPFTUNVqok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.46.69 with SMTP id un5mr2438460icb.44.1301106671214; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.180.131 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:31:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> <4D803220.1000308@stpeter.im> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:31:11 +0900 Message-ID: From: HAYASHI Tatsuya To: Peter Saint-Andre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "HAYASHI, Tatsuya" , "http-auth@ietf.org" , Yuichi Ioku Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:29:39 -0000 Hummmm. schedule candidate list? ( http://doodle.com/nytxmcxeyd77ds4y ) 1A) Tue 29, 06:00PM-08:00PM (7vote) Conflict: PGP Session(from agenda) / [Social event? :-) ] 1B) Wed 30, 08:00PM-09:30PM (7vote) Conflict: None? 2A) Tue 29, 11:30AM-01:00PM (6vote) Conflict: Break(from agenda) 2B) Wed 30, 11:30AM-01:00PM (6vote) Conflict: Break(from agenda) When does "Known Bar BOFs" opens? http://www.ietf.org/meeting/80/index.html Best regards, -- HAYASHI, Tatsuya / Lepidum Co. Ltd. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:49 PM, HAYASHI Tatsuya wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 3/15/11 2:40 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps it makes sense to set up a Doodle poll... >>> >>> Done. http://doodle.com/nytxmcxeyd77ds4y >> >> Thanks, I voted. :) > > me too. > Thanks, Peter and Yoav. > From stpeter@stpeter.im Sat Mar 26 14:45:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A644828C0E1 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:45:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.839 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.839 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.440, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_74=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fYFDeoPTgo8f for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87A528C0DF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-104b.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-104b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.16.75]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F76140022; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:48:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4D8E5EC9.4030509@stpeter.im> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:46:49 +0100 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HAYASHI Tatsuya References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> <4D803220.1000308@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040701050402040609080501" Cc: "HAYASHI, Tatsuya" , "http-auth@ietf.org" , Yuichi Ioku Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:45:17 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040701050402040609080501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/26/11 3:31 AM, HAYASHI Tatsuya wrote: > Hummmm. >=20 > schedule candidate list? ( http://doodle.com/nytxmcxeyd77ds4y ) >=20 > 1A) Tue 29, 06:00PM-08:00PM (7vote) > Conflict: PGP Session(from agenda) / [Social event? :-) ] > 1B) Wed 30, 08:00PM-09:30PM (7vote) > Conflict: None? > 2A) Tue 29, 11:30AM-01:00PM (6vote) > Conflict: Break(from agenda) > 2B) Wed 30, 11:30AM-01:00PM (6vote) > Conflict: Break(from agenda) I encourage you all to have a side meeting whenever it works for you. You don't need to have area directors there, because our scedules are full at this point. I am happy to help you find a room via the IETF Secretariat. 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From ynir@checkpoint.com Sun Mar 27 05:03:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368063A6801 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 05:03:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.954 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.954 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.555, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_74=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g4C333C9Rt3C for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 05:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from michael.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733443A67E5 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 05:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.26]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2RC5Cnv026283; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:05:12 +0200 X-CheckPoint: {4D8F277C-0-1B221DC2-FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) with mapi; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:05:12 +0200 From: Yoav Nir To: HAYASHI Tatsuya , Tatsuya HAYASHI , "http-auth@ietf.org" , Yuichi Ioku Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:05:12 +0200 Thread-Topic: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) Thread-Index: Acvsdzn3GTj25+4rQAub0iqImkrhPA== Message-ID: <0C806A84-F824-4602-BD3A-05600F20088B@checkpoint.com> References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> <4D803220.1000308@stpeter.im> <4D8E5EC9.4030509@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4D8E5EC9.4030509@stpeter.im> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:03:46 -0000 On Mar 26, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 3/26/11 3:31 AM, HAYASHI Tatsuya wrote: >> Hummmm. >>=20 >> schedule candidate list? ( http://doodle.com/nytxmcxeyd77ds4y ) >>=20 >> 1A) Tue 29, 06:00PM-08:00PM (7vote) >> Conflict: PGP Session(from agenda) / [Social event? :-) ] >> 1B) Wed 30, 08:00PM-09:30PM (7vote) >> Conflict: None? >> 2A) Tue 29, 11:30AM-01:00PM (6vote) >> Conflict: Break(from agenda) >> 2B) Wed 30, 11:30AM-01:00PM (6vote) >> Conflict: Break(from agenda) >=20 > I encourage you all to have a side meeting whenever it works for you. > You don't need to have area directors there, because our scedules are > full at this point. I am happy to help you find a room via the IETF > Secretariat. >=20 I would go with Wednesday because of the social event (although I don't pla= n to go) From y.oiwa@aist.go.jp Sun Mar 27 07:32:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7528128C100 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:32:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N6TIlQ96KaFl for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp (mx1.aist.go.jp [150.29.246.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D2D3A6864 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2REXgwI013198; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:33:43 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=aist.go.jp; s=aist; t=1301236423; bh=O0SuYsVuy1NdxCc7EAQ6tK/MY8zTaa3rk8PfaAW1fl0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From; b=PDlN9kqfkl6CXWzOLYOaO/ZkrTL0WrFmKAGGoTw9JdWsvym+WYoiUxcs9a0ihG2iY qylIwOp2tExPyWrxrzkczLmAlnVgwgkwWlUOMJKwrVWZJ6k41HLR+6a89cZ9gaH+Ta BSbF/ymj/MIBwJ0e2tciCC300wThFrq8Wf18xEoc= Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2REXg8w002217; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:33:42 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2REXa65025226; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:33:38 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) Message-ID: <4D8F4ABE.3000907@aist.go.jp> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:33:34 +0900 From: Yutaka OIWA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yoav Nir References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> <4D803220.1000308@stpeter.im> <4D8E5EC9.4030509@stpeter.im> <0C806A84-F824-4602-BD3A-05600F20088B@checkpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <0C806A84-F824-4602-BD3A-05600F20088B@checkpoint.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tatsuya HAYASHI , "http-auth@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:32:25 -0000 On 2011/03/27 21:05, Yoav Nir wrote: > I would go with Wednesday because of the social event (although I don't plan to go) I agree with you. We will go to ask IETF secretariat to lend us a room in > 1B) Wed 30, 08:00PM-09:30PM (7 votes) I will post some more details later. We'll looking forward to seeing you! -- Yutaka OIWA, Ph.D. Research Scientist Research Center for Information Security (RCIS) National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology (AIST) Mail addresses: , OpenPGP: id[440546B5] fp[7C9F 723A 7559 3246 229D 3139 8677 9BD2 4405 46B5] From stpeter@stpeter.im Sun Mar 27 08:28:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398DC3A686E for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:28:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.819 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.819 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.420, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_74=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68hu1NKENAOQ for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3102F3A6868 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-12cb.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-12cb.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.18.203]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B95E40022; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4D8F57EF.6090703@stpeter.im> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:29:51 +0200 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yoav Nir References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> <4D803220.1000308@stpeter.im> <4D8E5EC9.4030509@stpeter.im> <0C806A84-F824-4602-BD3A-05600F20088B@checkpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <0C806A84-F824-4602-BD3A-05600F20088B@checkpoint.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000705050809070507030402" Cc: Tatsuya HAYASHI , "http-auth@ietf.org" , Yuichi Ioku Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:28:18 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000705050809070507030402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/27/11 2:05 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: >=20 > On Mar 26, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >=20 >> On 3/26/11 3:31 AM, HAYASHI Tatsuya wrote: >>> Hummmm. >>> >>> schedule candidate list? ( http://doodle.com/nytxmcxeyd77ds4y ) >>> >>> 1A) Tue 29, 06:00PM-08:00PM (7vote) >>> Conflict: PGP Session(from agenda) / [Social event? :-) ] >>> 1B) Wed 30, 08:00PM-09:30PM (7vote) >>> Conflict: None? >>> 2A) Tue 29, 11:30AM-01:00PM (6vote) >>> Conflict: Break(from agenda) >>> 2B) Wed 30, 11:30AM-01:00PM (6vote) >>> Conflict: Break(from agenda) >> >> I encourage you all to have a side meeting whenever it works for you. >> You don't need to have area directors there, because our scedules are >> full at this point. 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Windows NT 6.1; en; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "http-auth@ietf.org" References: <4D7DDE1E.7000300@oiwa.jp> <4D7E6E12.5080709@stpeter.im> <4D803220.1000308@stpeter.im> <4D8E5EC9.4030509@stpeter.im> <0C806A84-F824-4602-BD3A-05600F20088B@checkpoint.com> <4D8F57EF.6090703@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4D8F57EF.6090703@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tatsuya HAYASHI Subject: Re: [http-auth] Bar BoF scheduling at Prague (and the earthquake...) X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:06:12 -0000 Dear all interested, The location for the meet-up http-auth side meeting will be Karlin II/III, 20:00--21:00 Wednesday 30 March I hope many of you are attending. -- Yutaka OIWA, Ph.D. Research Scientist Research Center for Information Security (RCIS) National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology (AIST) Mail addresses: , OpenPGP: id[440546B5] fp[7C9F 723A 7559 3246 229D 3139 8677 9BD2 4405 46B5] From y.oiwa@aist.go.jp Mon Mar 28 10:36:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D29928B56A for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:36:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U+BtyAVoL68b for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp (mx1.aist.go.jp [150.29.246.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAB23A6948 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2SHbbW6021957; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:37:37 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=aist.go.jp; s=aist; t=1301333858; bh=OmBDqqGLA0BE1bPXkO6I/gHNqdySjBAK1H9tEelzmW4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From; b=GDtEC2eZg+z10tvDiOE8LkUb4UfOWFPhQPdZTFrmZDEI6Qrq2Nls//UPczVscZi5Y oQBofEh16sb9h+ocOt2mAa8JTvGFTnJW2LV/mHrqOd/6URXNPogUUOOPtfeOPg1NrS SIoY1fPvNpLpJUuMDjBooVIFiILIlTRQ1kPArWtk= Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2SHba7f004078; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:37:36 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2SHbWsQ021853; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:37:33 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) Message-ID: <4D90C75A.1040004@aist.go.jp> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:37:30 +0900 From: Yutaka OIWA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "http-auth@ietf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [http-auth] side meeting on Wednesday, March 30 X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:36:13 -0000 Dear all, I'm looking forward to seeing you at 20:00 Wednesday in Karlin II/III. My current plan for the side meeting is to mutually know each other's face by meeting face-to-face, and to share the problem space which is broken now and which is to be fixed by our future working group (hopefully). The important point here is that the solutions must be not only implementable to the HTTP client/server, but also deployable and usable by Web applications. I believe this is the most problematic point of current largely-unused solutions including TLS client certificate authentication. I will prepare a small presentation which will describe *my* view of what should be done. Your opinions and views are very welcome. Also, I am waiting of inputs for the possible future agenda quoted below. See you, Yutaka -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [http-auth] HTTP Auth Next BOF at IETF Prague deadline Monday/Possible W3C Workshop? Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:54:37 +0900 From: Yutaka OIWA To: Harry Halpin CC: http-auth@ietf.org Dear Harry and all, "Harry Halpin" writes: > Another idea would be to hold an informal bar-BOF at Prague if the BOF > can't be put together quickly enough as a bar-BOF would require less work > and give us more time to bake the tech ideas or charter. I'll leave this > decision in the hands of more experienced IETF folks. In both ways, anyway, we will need a good-direction proposal and agenda. It is hard for me to write a "good" one, but I made a "bad" :-) one as a starting point. Please consider it for improvements and rephrasing. Thanks Harry for providing a very good descriptions which I've used as a staring point. * Things to consider: - agenda not yet written - goal: currently ambiguous (intentionally); to discuss, or to form WG? -------- Description: The current authentication methods used in the Web system is prone to various serious vulnerabilities, including password eavesdropping, password stealing, session hijack, and phishing. Because of the lack of a good/secure support for web application authentication in the HTTP layer, people tends to use HTML forms for authentication, which are by nature insecure. This problem should be solved as soon as possible to mitigate the impact of Web authentication-related frauds to the Internet users. However, to solve this problem, the resulting technologies should be carefully designed so that these will be well deployable to the real-world applications. Recently we have several new proposals for securing Web/HTTP authentications, some of which has a proposed drafts. In addition, the work of the HTTPBIS working group is about to finish, and it will require some maintenance works for the HTTP existing authentication mechanism, at least the registrations to IANA. The purpose of the proposed BoF is to pursue creation of IETF working groups on various HTTP authentication issues. The possible topics of the future working group may include the following topics: * Introduction of much more secure authentication mechanisms as extensions to the HTTP. * Introduction of technologies which will enable more sophisticated use of HTTP authentication in application layer. * Research on the secure ways of Web/HTML authentications and required protocol-side support for them * Maintenance of existing HTTP authentication extensions (other than Basic and Digest), either checking its httpbis-conforming or making it historic. * Proposing addition of authentication schemes to the IANA registry as proposed by httpbis. Both BoF and possible future working group expect well coordination with W3C's effort on the related topics. BoF proposed agenda: * Topics to be discussed in the future working group * TBD Logistical informations: BoF Chairs: TBD BOF Proponents: Harry Halpin, Yutaka OIWA, ... (TBD) People expected: 50 Length of session: 90min Conflicts to avoid: Working Groups in the APP and SEC areas WebEX: no Responsible AD: Peter Saint-Andre, Alexey Melnikov (tentative) Goal: to pursue creation of IETF working groups Drafts: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oiwa-http-mutualauth-08; more to be discussed Mailing List: HTTP http-auth mailing list Mailing List Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/http-auth/ -------- -- Yutaka OIWA, Ph.D. Research Scientist Research Center for Information Security (RCIS) National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology (AIST) Mail addresses: , OpenPGP: id[440546B5] fp[7C9F 723A 7559 3246 229D 3139 8677 9BD2 4405 46B5] From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Mar 29 02:22:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFC928C13F for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:22:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.432 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.167, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZFTOAPctkFpD for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECD828C129 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-12cb.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-12cb.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.18.203]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A06640022 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 03:26:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4D91A549.4050107@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:24:25 +0200 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: http-auth@ietf.org References: <4D90C75A.1040004@aist.go.jp> In-Reply-To: <4D90C75A.1040004@aist.go.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010705090303080107080805" Subject: Re: [http-auth] side meeting on Wednesday, March 30 X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:22:51 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010705090303080107080805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When you finish creating your slides, could you send them to the list? On 3/28/11 7:37 PM, Yutaka OIWA wrote: > Dear all, >=20 > I'm looking forward to seeing you at 20:00 Wednesday in Karlin II/III. >=20 > My current plan for the side meeting is to mutually know each other's f= ace by > meeting face-to-face, and to share the problem space which is broken no= w and > which is to be fixed by our future working group (hopefully). > The important point here is that the solutions must be not only impleme= ntable to > the HTTP client/server, but also deployable and usable by Web applicati= ons. I > believe this is the most problematic point of current largely-unused so= lutions > including TLS client certificate authentication. >=20 > I will prepare a small presentation which will describe *my* view of wh= at should > be done. Your opinions and views are very welcome. > Also, I am waiting of inputs for the possible future agenda quoted belo= w. >=20 > See you, >=20 > Yutaka >=20 > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [http-auth] HTTP Auth Next BOF at IETF Prague deadline > Monday/Possible W3C Workshop? > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:54:37 +0900 > From: Yutaka OIWA > To: Harry Halpin > CC: http-auth@ietf.org >=20 > Dear Harry and all, >=20 > "Harry Halpin" writes: >=20 >> Another idea would be to hold an informal bar-BOF at Prague if the BOF= >> can't be put together quickly enough as a bar-BOF would require less w= ork >> and give us more time to bake the tech ideas or charter. I'll leave th= is >> decision in the hands of more experienced IETF folks. >=20 > In both ways, anyway, we will need a good-direction proposal and > agenda. It is hard for me to write a "good" one, but I made a "bad" :-= ) > one as a starting point. >=20 > Please consider it for improvements and rephrasing. Thanks Harry for > providing a very good descriptions which I've used as a staring point. >=20 > * Things to consider: >=20 > - agenda not yet written > - goal: currently ambiguous (intentionally); to discuss, or to form = WG? >=20 > -------- > Description: >=20 > The current authentication methods used in the Web system is prone to > various serious vulnerabilities, including password eavesdropping, > password stealing, session hijack, and phishing. Because of the lack > of a good/secure support for web application authentication in the > HTTP layer, people tends to use HTML forms for authentication, which > are by nature insecure. >=20 > This problem should be solved as soon as possible to mitigate the > impact of Web authentication-related frauds to the Internet > users. However, to solve this problem, the resulting technologies > should be carefully designed so that these will be well deployable to > the real-world applications. >=20 > Recently we have several new proposals for securing Web/HTTP > authentications, some of which has a proposed drafts. In addition, > the work of the HTTPBIS working group is about to finish, and it will > require some maintenance works for the HTTP existing authentication > mechanism, at least the registrations to IANA. >=20 > The purpose of the proposed BoF is to pursue creation of IETF working > groups on various HTTP authentication issues. The possible topics of > the future working group may include the following topics: >=20 > * Introduction of much more secure authentication mechanisms as > extensions to the HTTP. >=20 > * Introduction of technologies which will enable more sophisticated > use of HTTP authentication in application layer. >=20 > * Research on the secure ways of Web/HTML authentications and > required protocol-side support for them >=20 > * Maintenance of existing HTTP authentication extensions (other than > Basic and Digest), either checking its httpbis-conforming or making > it historic. >=20 > * Proposing addition of authentication schemes to the IANA registry > as proposed by httpbis. >=20 > Both BoF and possible future working group expect well coordination wit= h > W3C's effort on the related topics. >=20 >=20 > BoF proposed agenda: >=20 > * Topics to be discussed in the future working group >=20 > * TBD >=20 > Logistical informations: >=20 > BoF Chairs: TBD > BOF Proponents: Harry Halpin, Yutaka OIWA, ... 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29 Mar 2011 21:08:48 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) Message-ID: <4D91CBCD.8080505@aist.go.jp> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:08:45 +0900 From: Yutaka OIWA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4D90C75A.1040004@aist.go.jp> <4D91A549.4050107@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4D91A549.4050107@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: http-auth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [http-auth] side meeting on Wednesday, March 30 X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:07:18 -0000 Yes, please give me a while. On 2011/03/29 18:24, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > When you finish creating your slides, could you send them to the list? > > On 3/28/11 7:37 PM, Yutaka OIWA wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I'm looking forward to seeing you at 20:00 Wednesday in Karlin II/III. >> >> My current plan for the side meeting is to mutually know each other's face by >> meeting face-to-face, and to share the problem space which is broken now and >> which is to be fixed by our future working group (hopefully). >> The important point here is that the solutions must be not only implementable to >> the HTTP client/server, but also deployable and usable by Web applications. I >> believe this is the most problematic point of current largely-unused solutions >> including TLS client certificate authentication. >> >> I will prepare a small presentation which will describe *my* view of what should >> be done. Your opinions and views are very welcome. >> Also, I am waiting of inputs for the possible future agenda quoted below. >> >> See you, >> >> Yutaka >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [http-auth] HTTP Auth Next BOF at IETF Prague deadline >> Monday/Possible W3C Workshop? >> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:54:37 +0900 >> From: Yutaka OIWA >> To: Harry Halpin >> CC: http-auth@ietf.org >> >> Dear Harry and all, >> >> "Harry Halpin" writes: >> >>> Another idea would be to hold an informal bar-BOF at Prague if the BOF >>> can't be put together quickly enough as a bar-BOF would require less work >>> and give us more time to bake the tech ideas or charter. I'll leave this >>> decision in the hands of more experienced IETF folks. >> >> In both ways, anyway, we will need a good-direction proposal and >> agenda. It is hard for me to write a "good" one, but I made a "bad" :-) >> one as a starting point. >> >> Please consider it for improvements and rephrasing. Thanks Harry for >> providing a very good descriptions which I've used as a staring point. >> >> * Things to consider: >> >> - agenda not yet written >> - goal: currently ambiguous (intentionally); to discuss, or to form WG? >> >> -------- >> Description: >> >> The current authentication methods used in the Web system is prone to >> various serious vulnerabilities, including password eavesdropping, >> password stealing, session hijack, and phishing. Because of the lack >> of a good/secure support for web application authentication in the >> HTTP layer, people tends to use HTML forms for authentication, which >> are by nature insecure. >> >> This problem should be solved as soon as possible to mitigate the >> impact of Web authentication-related frauds to the Internet >> users. However, to solve this problem, the resulting technologies >> should be carefully designed so that these will be well deployable to >> the real-world applications. >> >> Recently we have several new proposals for securing Web/HTTP >> authentications, some of which has a proposed drafts. In addition, >> the work of the HTTPBIS working group is about to finish, and it will >> require some maintenance works for the HTTP existing authentication >> mechanism, at least the registrations to IANA. >> >> The purpose of the proposed BoF is to pursue creation of IETF working >> groups on various HTTP authentication issues. The possible topics of >> the future working group may include the following topics: >> >> * Introduction of much more secure authentication mechanisms as >> extensions to the HTTP. >> >> * Introduction of technologies which will enable more sophisticated >> use of HTTP authentication in application layer. >> >> * Research on the secure ways of Web/HTML authentications and >> required protocol-side support for them >> >> * Maintenance of existing HTTP authentication extensions (other than >> Basic and Digest), either checking its httpbis-conforming or making >> it historic. >> >> * Proposing addition of authentication schemes to the IANA registry >> as proposed by httpbis. >> >> Both BoF and possible future working group expect well coordination with >> W3C's effort on the related topics. >> >> >> BoF proposed agenda: >> >> * Topics to be discussed in the future working group >> >> * TBD >> >> Logistical informations: >> >> BoF Chairs: TBD >> BOF Proponents: Harry Halpin, Yutaka OIWA, ... (TBD) >> People expected: 50 >> Length of session: 90min >> Conflicts to avoid: Working Groups in the APP and SEC areas >> WebEX: no >> Responsible AD: Peter Saint-Andre, Alexey Melnikov (tentative) >> Goal: to pursue creation of IETF working groups >> Drafts: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oiwa-http-mutualauth-08; more to be >> discussed >> Mailing List: HTTP http-auth mailing list >> Mailing List Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/http-auth/ >> -------- >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > http-auth mailing list > http-auth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/http-auth -- 大岩 寛 Yutaka Oiwa 独立行政法人 産業技術総合研究所 情報セキュリティ研究センター ソフトウェアセキュリティ研究チーム , OpenPGP: id[440546B5] fp[7C9F 723A 7559 3246 229D 3139 8677 9BD2 4405 46B5] From hhalpin@w3.org Tue Mar 29 05:39:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3915F3A63CA for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 05:39:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m1nAAs33w27X for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 05:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jay.w3.org (ssh.w3.org [128.30.52.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B153A67DB for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 05:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www-data by jay.w3.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4YEB-0006N7-Va; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:40:56 -0400 Received: from 130.129.83.64 (SquirrelMail authenticated user hhalpin) by webmail-mit.w3.org with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:40:56 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <55c471c6cd01639e19b2745a1fc91a18.squirrel@webmail-mit.w3.org> In-Reply-To: <4D91CBCD.8080505@aist.go.jp> References: <4D90C75A.1040004@aist.go.jp> <4D91A549.4050107@stpeter.im> <4D91CBCD.8080505@aist.go.jp> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:40:56 +0100 (BST) From: "Harry Halpin" To: "Yutaka OIWA" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: http-auth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [http-auth] side meeting on Wednesday, March 30 X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:39:24 -0000 I will also be at the Bar-BOF, and look forward to meeting you all. As I promised the list earlier, the W3C is also getting ready to help out by hosting a workshop called "Identity in the Browser": http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ The workshop is free with a position paper will be May 24-25th in Mountain View, hosted by Mozilla - who will have a desire I believe to really get things working given that last incident :) If you have any questions, just ask me about it, I'm around at the IETF meeting all week. We're looking forward on a proposal from the IETF crowd on how the browsers can better enable the user-interface and functionality/APIs to build on top of a new actually secure version of HTTP Auth as well as work around WOES from yesterday and other-related subjects. cheers, harry > Yes, please give me a while. > > On 2011/03/29 18:24, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> When you finish creating your slides, could you send them to the list? >> >> On 3/28/11 7:37 PM, Yutaka OIWA wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I'm looking forward to seeing you at 20:00 Wednesday in Karlin II/III. >>> >>> My current plan for the side meeting is to mutually know each other's >>> face by >>> meeting face-to-face, and to share the problem space which is broken >>> now and >>> which is to be fixed by our future working group (hopefully). >>> The important point here is that the solutions must be not only >>> implementable to >>> the HTTP client/server, but also deployable and usable by Web >>> applications. I >>> believe this is the most problematic point of current largely-unused >>> solutions >>> including TLS client certificate authentication. >>> >>> I will prepare a small presentation which will describe *my* view of >>> what should >>> be done. Your opinions and views are very welcome. >>> Also, I am waiting of inputs for the possible future agenda quoted >>> below. >>> >>> See you, >>> >>> Yutaka >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [http-auth] HTTP Auth Next BOF at IETF Prague deadline >>> Monday/Possible W3C Workshop? >>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:54:37 +0900 >>> From: Yutaka OIWA >>> To: Harry Halpin >>> CC: http-auth@ietf.org >>> >>> Dear Harry and all, >>> >>> "Harry Halpin" writes: >>> >>>> Another idea would be to hold an informal bar-BOF at Prague if the BOF >>>> can't be put together quickly enough as a bar-BOF would require less >>>> work >>>> and give us more time to bake the tech ideas or charter. I'll leave >>>> this >>>> decision in the hands of more experienced IETF folks. >>> >>> In both ways, anyway, we will need a good-direction proposal and >>> agenda. It is hard for me to write a "good" one, but I made a "bad" >>> :-) >>> one as a starting point. >>> >>> Please consider it for improvements and rephrasing. Thanks Harry for >>> providing a very good descriptions which I've used as a staring point. >>> >>> * Things to consider: >>> >>> - agenda not yet written >>> - goal: currently ambiguous (intentionally); to discuss, or to form >>> WG? >>> >>> -------- >>> Description: >>> >>> The current authentication methods used in the Web system is prone to >>> various serious vulnerabilities, including password eavesdropping, >>> password stealing, session hijack, and phishing. Because of the lack >>> of a good/secure support for web application authentication in the >>> HTTP layer, people tends to use HTML forms for authentication, which >>> are by nature insecure. >>> >>> This problem should be solved as soon as possible to mitigate the >>> impact of Web authentication-related frauds to the Internet >>> users. However, to solve this problem, the resulting technologies >>> should be carefully designed so that these will be well deployable to >>> the real-world applications. >>> >>> Recently we have several new proposals for securing Web/HTTP >>> authentications, some of which has a proposed drafts. In addition, >>> the work of the HTTPBIS working group is about to finish, and it will >>> require some maintenance works for the HTTP existing authentication >>> mechanism, at least the registrations to IANA. >>> >>> The purpose of the proposed BoF is to pursue creation of IETF working >>> groups on various HTTP authentication issues. The possible topics of >>> the future working group may include the following topics: >>> >>> * Introduction of much more secure authentication mechanisms as >>> extensions to the HTTP. >>> >>> * Introduction of technologies which will enable more sophisticated >>> use of HTTP authentication in application layer. >>> >>> * Research on the secure ways of Web/HTML authentications and >>> required protocol-side support for them >>> >>> * Maintenance of existing HTTP authentication extensions (other than >>> Basic and Digest), either checking its httpbis-conforming or making >>> it historic. >>> >>> * Proposing addition of authentication schemes to the IANA registry >>> as proposed by httpbis. >>> >>> Both BoF and possible future working group expect well coordination >>> with >>> W3C's effort on the related topics. >>> >>> >>> BoF proposed agenda: >>> >>> * Topics to be discussed in the future working group >>> >>> * TBD >>> >>> Logistical informations: >>> >>> BoF Chairs: TBD >>> BOF Proponents: Harry Halpin, Yutaka OIWA, ... (TBD) >>> People expected: 50 >>> Length of session: 90min >>> Conflicts to avoid: Working Groups in the APP and SEC areas >>> WebEX: no >>> Responsible AD: Peter Saint-Andre, Alexey Melnikov (tentative) >>> Goal: to pursue creation of IETF working groups >>> Drafts: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oiwa-http-mutualauth-08; more >>> to be >>> discussed >>> Mailing List: HTTP http-auth mailing list >>> Mailing List Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/http-auth/ >>> -------- >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http-auth mailing list >> http-auth@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/http-auth > > > -- > 大岩 寛 Yutaka Oiwa 独立行政法人 > 産業技術総合研究所 > 情報セキュリティ研究センター > ソフトウェアセキュリティ研究チーム > , > > OpenPGP: id[440546B5] fp[7C9F 723A 7559 3246 229D 3139 8677 9BD2 4405 > 46B5] > _______________________________________________ > http-auth mailing list > http-auth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/http-auth > From y.oiwa@aist.go.jp Wed Mar 30 07:02:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CD13A6B53 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CUQa08GDrEk1 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp (mx1.aist.go.jp [150.29.246.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D433A6B42 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2UE4I8g005504; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:04:18 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=aist.go.jp; s=aist; t=1301493859; bh=esb1nOt8w5qOj3GVaXmrPobAPo93J7/Hy7i80m4dClI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From; b=WYd5c5QmUmXD/7C2FSEf1sJTDzbfSAp1t//oI3WOLBrbZLjg+6eV0LznRiijVU0j3 D9tCzx+Pc2UvpFc52flCDg7qgL9NWiqlCCSQbvuXy0po2WEUm2CCbJaoLssNDhukjf A3vt/cBDJnYMfvsDDNZEI+1ZmuhIl6/8T3IlOG4A= Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2UE4I4Q005206; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:04:18 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p2UE4Dln019558; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:04:15 +0900 (JST) env-from (y.oiwa@aist.go.jp) Message-ID: <4D93385C.1030604@aist.go.jp> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:04:12 +0900 From: Yutaka OIWA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4D90C75A.1040004@aist.go.jp> <4D91A549.4050107@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4D91A549.4050107@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: http-auth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [http-auth] side meeting on Wednesday, March 30 X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:02:45 -0000 Peter and all in http-auth list, here is my slides to be presented at the bar-bof at 8pm. https://staff.aist.go.jp/y.oiwa/publications/IETF80-http-auth-barbof-oiwa.pdf # is there a better place for putting this kind of materials? On 2011/03/29 18:24, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > When you finish creating your slides, could you send them to the list? > > On 3/28/11 7:37 PM, Yutaka OIWA wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I'm looking forward to seeing you at 20:00 Wednesday in Karlin II/III. >> >> My current plan for the side meeting is to mutually know each other's face by >> meeting face-to-face, and to share the problem space which is broken now and >> which is to be fixed by our future working group (hopefully). >> The important point here is that the solutions must be not only implementable to >> the HTTP client/server, but also deployable and usable by Web applications. I >> believe this is the most problematic point of current largely-unused solutions >> including TLS client certificate authentication. >> >> I will prepare a small presentation which will describe *my* view of what should >> be done. Your opinions and views are very welcome. >> Also, I am waiting of inputs for the possible future agenda quoted below. >> >> See you, >> >> Yutaka >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [http-auth] HTTP Auth Next BOF at IETF Prague deadline >> Monday/Possible W3C Workshop? >> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:54:37 +0900 >> From: Yutaka OIWA >> To: Harry Halpin >> CC: http-auth@ietf.org >> >> Dear Harry and all, >> >> "Harry Halpin" writes: >> >>> Another idea would be to hold an informal bar-BOF at Prague if the BOF >>> can't be put together quickly enough as a bar-BOF would require less work >>> and give us more time to bake the tech ideas or charter. I'll leave this >>> decision in the hands of more experienced IETF folks. >> >> In both ways, anyway, we will need a good-direction proposal and >> agenda. It is hard for me to write a "good" one, but I made a "bad" :-) >> one as a starting point. >> >> Please consider it for improvements and rephrasing. Thanks Harry for >> providing a very good descriptions which I've used as a staring point. >> >> * Things to consider: >> >> - agenda not yet written >> - goal: currently ambiguous (intentionally); to discuss, or to form WG? >> >> -------- >> Description: >> >> The current authentication methods used in the Web system is prone to >> various serious vulnerabilities, including password eavesdropping, >> password stealing, session hijack, and phishing. Because of the lack >> of a good/secure support for web application authentication in the >> HTTP layer, people tends to use HTML forms for authentication, which >> are by nature insecure. >> >> This problem should be solved as soon as possible to mitigate the >> impact of Web authentication-related frauds to the Internet >> users. However, to solve this problem, the resulting technologies >> should be carefully designed so that these will be well deployable to >> the real-world applications. >> >> Recently we have several new proposals for securing Web/HTTP >> authentications, some of which has a proposed drafts. In addition, >> the work of the HTTPBIS working group is about to finish, and it will >> require some maintenance works for the HTTP existing authentication >> mechanism, at least the registrations to IANA. >> >> The purpose of the proposed BoF is to pursue creation of IETF working >> groups on various HTTP authentication issues. The possible topics of >> the future working group may include the following topics: >> >> * Introduction of much more secure authentication mechanisms as >> extensions to the HTTP. >> >> * Introduction of technologies which will enable more sophisticated >> use of HTTP authentication in application layer. >> >> * Research on the secure ways of Web/HTML authentications and >> required protocol-side support for them >> >> * Maintenance of existing HTTP authentication extensions (other than >> Basic and Digest), either checking its httpbis-conforming or making >> it historic. >> >> * Proposing addition of authentication schemes to the IANA registry >> as proposed by httpbis. >> >> Both BoF and possible future working group expect well coordination with >> W3C's effort on the related topics. >> >> >> BoF proposed agenda: >> >> * Topics to be discussed in the future working group >> >> * TBD >> >> Logistical informations: >> >> BoF Chairs: TBD >> BOF Proponents: Harry Halpin, Yutaka OIWA, ... (TBD) >> People expected: 50 >> Length of session: 90min >> Conflicts to avoid: Working Groups in the APP and SEC areas >> WebEX: no >> Responsible AD: Peter Saint-Andre, Alexey Melnikov (tentative) >> Goal: to pursue creation of IETF working groups >> Drafts: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oiwa-http-mutualauth-08; more to be >> discussed >> Mailing List: HTTP http-auth mailing list >> Mailing List Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/http-auth/ >> -------- >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > http-auth mailing list > http-auth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/http-auth -- 大岩 寛 Yutaka Oiwa 独立行政法人 産業技術総合研究所 情報セキュリティ研究センター ソフトウェアセキュリティ研究チーム , OpenPGP: id[440546B5] fp[7C9F 723A 7559 3246 229D 3139 8677 9BD2 4405 46B5] From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Mar 30 07:17:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70BF3A6B5A for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:17:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.46 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.46 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.139, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YiEgUWBcJxRl for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002AE3A6A34 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-12cb.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-12cb.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.18.203]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0262040022; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:21:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4D933BE1.5060903@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:19:13 +0200 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yutaka OIWA References: <4D90C75A.1040004@aist.go.jp> <4D91A549.4050107@stpeter.im> <4D9333AF.9030206@aist.go.jp> In-Reply-To: <4D9333AF.9030206@aist.go.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000200030707000806000503" Cc: http-auth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [http-auth] side meeting on Wednesday, March 30 X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:17:36 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000200030707000806000503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/30/11 3:44 PM, Yutaka OIWA wrote: > Peter and all in http-auth list, >=20 > here is my slides to be presented at the bar-bof at 8pm. >=20 > https://staff.aist.go.jp/y.oiwa/publications/IETF80-http-auth-barbof-oi= wa.pdf Thanks! Unfortunately I have another commitment so I might arrive late. > # is there a better place for putting this kind of materials? 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From: Yutaka OIWA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4D90C75A.1040004@aist.go.jp> <4D91A549.4050107@stpeter.im> <4D9333AF.9030206@aist.go.jp> <4D933BE1.5060903@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4D933BE1.5060903@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: http-auth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [http-auth] side meeting on Wednesday, March 30 X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:46:37 -0000 Dear all, With thanks to Peter, we've created a Wiki page on the BarBoF. Currently there is only my slide, though. The location is here: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/BarBofs/IETF80/http-auth I also added a stub page for BarBofs/IETF80. Please add all other activities there if you know the details. On 2011/03/30 23:19, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > And yes, the trac wiki uses HTTP authentication. :) It seems to us one of very good examples of applying Mutual authentication :-) # The site model suited quite well to use our Optional-Authenticate extension. -- Yutaka OIWA, Ph.D. Research Scientist Research Center for Information Security (RCIS) National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology (AIST) Mail addresses: , OpenPGP: id[440546B5] fp[7C9F 723A 7559 3246 229D 3139 8677 9BD2 4405 46B5] From hallam@gmail.com Wed Mar 30 12:26:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: http-auth@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE4C28C12E for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:26:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.961 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.961 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.582, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OqMSO2DK7zFL for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A659F28C18B for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vxg33 with SMTP id 33so1523291vxg.31 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:28:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AVNlO5F4f3MGbQAH1buui5uXfVDzA0SbMyhmUqNAWfw=; b=lcTx1P2UT08QU4YIl/tmTkAM/diJlh9rRIybSXwIqfDkl/5Ut1ZkkcYBC3gcG9+7+u PUWeJfJ+VJnX1Qq2SdS6+L8PdR2Z8CtwiMXk2tGNz5RxfA/d2zQQghyCBf2vYxsh1Mrx YI0w8PFpgGfT/aEBrD1k9m7fXHLjchYGpoHkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LLau+z3ME+i4xEfc8Dvtzajye511Fyt9u+UtPb00AxxLn9j12uVELCjyMYkQ4H56ig wqwkBoCH/juqIoRzfLmJNtc1s0jCksnlV36sT0l/401fJRE6AIRoCBnup8X3J7GaJgmI byNNvjUMOh9PSqzV3HOV9p+zjjoZeq5iqmLEk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.97.165 with SMTP id eb5mr2039119vdb.298.1301513284622; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.167.135 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:28:04 +0200 Message-ID: From: Phillip Hallam-Baker To: http-auth@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d0408001eec049fb82d58 Subject: [http-auth] Test X-BeenThere: http-auth@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: HTTP authentication methods List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:26:26 -0000 --20cf307d0408001eec049fb82d58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Testing -- Website: http://hallambaker.com/ --20cf307d0408001eec049fb82d58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Testing

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