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On Tue, 27 May 2003, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
>This is an Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG Last Call for the
>Power Ethernet MIB. The document can be found at:
>
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-05.txt

Here is a MIB doctor nit that I seem to have missed previously:  in
the MODULE-IDENTITY invocation the UTC time of the most recent
REVISION clause does not match that of the LAST-UPDATED clause.  
See section 4.5 of <draft-ietf-ops-mib-review-guidelines-01.txt>.

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On Tue, 27 May 2003, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
>This is an Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG Last Call for the
>Power Ethernet MIB. The document can be found at:
>
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-05.txt

Here is a MIB doctor nit that I seem to have missed previously:  in
the MODULE-IDENTITY invocation the UTC time of the most recent
REVISION clause does not match that of the LAST-UPDATED clause.  
See section 4.5 of <draft-ietf-ops-mib-review-guidelines-01.txt>.

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Hub MIB folks --

Dan Romascanu asked me to forward the following message to the list.
The context of the discussion was a last call comment raised by the
IANA representative on the MAU-MIB regarding the following language
in the DESCRIPTION clauses of rpMauType and ifMauType:

  This object identifies the MAU type.  An initial set of MAU types
  are defined above.  The assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new
  types of MAUs is managed by the IANA.

The issue raised by the IANA representative is that the above
language by itself does not provide any instructions on how to
administer MAU type assignments.

Despite the above language (which has been around since RFC 1515)
MAU type assignments for IEEE 802 standard have been historically
been managed by the working group.  The solution proposed below is
to reword the DESCRIPTION clauses to remove the "is managed by the
IANA" language.

Comments from other WG members are solicited.

Regards,

Mike Heard

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:56:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: C. M. Heard <heard@pobox.com>
To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
Cc: John Flick <johnf@rose.hp.com>,
     "Dan Romascanu (E-mail)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, IANA <iana@iana.org>
Subject: RE: Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium
    Attachment Units (MAUs) to Proposed Standard

On Wed, 28 May 2003, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
> Mmm... strange that I overlooked this.

Apparently we all did.

> I guess we (probably the WG) need to decide how we want to
> handle this. Seems like we have these choices:
> 
> a.We ask IANA to keep a registry under dot3MauType, in which
>   case we need to add an IANA Considerations section to explain
>   how to make new assignments. If we choose for this one, we might
>   be better of to make it an IANA maintained MIB Module.
> b.We state that new values can only be created by Standards Action
>   (as per RFC2434) and then we're basically done. Seems IANA need to
>   do nothing in this case. We could wonder if we want IANA
>   to administer these and make a public list of the assignments (to
>   make it easier in the future to recognize if conflicts would arise).
>   If so we need to tell them about that in IANA consoderations
>   If not, we may want to remove all IANA related text I think.
> c.Seems we have only been adding new values in this document itself.
>   So we could mention that the only valid values are 0.0 and the
>   ones listed within this MIB module. In that case there is also
>   no IANA considerations and we may want to remove the IANA text.
> 
> So... did we intend to ever allow other MIB modules to make
> MauType assignments? Did we intend to allow proprietary 
> MauTypes (e.g. OIDs that we do not control al all?)

Bert,

We probably want something a little different from any of these
alternatives.

In practice, the WG always has to manage the standard (i.e., IEEE
802.3) MAU type assignments since adding a new standard MAU type
requires that a corresponding bit position be defined for
ifMauTypeListBits. The language "assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to
new types of MAUs is managed by the IANA" in the DESCRIPTION clauses
of rpMauType and ifMauType dates all the way back to RFC 1515, but
it seems to be historical since (i) no IANA MAU type registry was
ever created (or if it was, I can't find any evidence of it now) and
(ii) the WG has been managing all new standard MAU types that have
appeared in the various revisions of the MAU-MIB (RFC 2239, RFC
2668, and the present document).  This has been a practical
necessity since the type list object ifMauTypeList (now replaced by
ifMauTypeListBits) was introduced in RFC 2239.

It was (and I think still is) the intent to allow non-standard MAU
types.  The DESCRIPTION clause for ifMauTypeListBits says:

           DESCRIPTION "A value that uniquely identifies the set of
                       possible IEEE 802.3 types that the MAU could be.
                       If auto-negotiation is present on this MAU, this
                       object will map to ifMauAutoNegCapabilityBits.

                       Note that this MAU may be capable of operating
                       as a MAU type that is beyond the scope of this
                       MIB.  This is indicated by returning the
                       bit value bOther in addition to any bit values
                       for capabilities that are listed above."

In view of this, I think the correct course of action would be:

(i) remove the language "assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new
types of MAUs is managed by the IANA" and instead of saying that an
initial set of values is defined , say that values for standard IEEE
802.3 MAU types are defined;

(ii) inform the IANA that we don't need for them to create or
maintain an MAU type registry ... in fact we don't need for them to
do anything at all with respect to this document.

Here are the specific wording changes that I propose.

Change the DESCRIPTION clause of rpMauType as follows:

FROM:
           DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  An
                       initial set of MAU types are defined above.  The
                       assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new types of
                       MAUs is managed by the IANA.  If the MAU type is
                       unknown, the object identifier

                       unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }

                       is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
                       syntactically valid object identifier, and any
                       conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
                       must be able to generate and recognize this
                       value."

TO:
           DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  Values for
                       standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
                       If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier

                       unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }

                       is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
                       syntactically valid object identifier, and any
                       conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
                       must be able to generate and recognize this
                       value."

and change the DESCRIPTION clause of ifMauType as follows:

FROM:
           DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  An
                       initial set of MAU types are defined above.  The
                       assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new types of
                       MAUs is managed by the IANA.  If the MAU type is
                       unknown, the object identifier

                       unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }

                       is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
                       syntactically valid object identifier, and any
                       conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
                       must be able to generate and recognize this
                       value.

                       This object represents the operational type of
                       the MAU, as determined by either (1) the result
                       of the auto-negotiation function or (2) if
                       auto-negotiation is not enabled or is not
                       implemented for this MAU, by the value of the
                       object ifMauDefaultType.  In case (2), a set to
                       the object ifMauDefaultType will force the MAU
                       into the new operating mode."

TO:
           DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  Values for
                       standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
                       If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier

                       unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }

                       is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
                       syntactically valid object identifier, and any
                       conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
                       must be able to generate and recognize this
                       value.

                       This object represents the operational type of
                       the MAU, as determined by either (1) the result
                       of the auto-negotiation function or (2) if
                       auto-negotiation is not enabled or is not
                       implemented for this MAU, by the value of the
                       object ifMauDefaultType.  In case (2), a set to
                       the object ifMauDefaultType will force the MAU
                       into the new operating mode."

With those changes there would be no mention of IANA in the
document.  Note that this will still allow an enterprise to manage
equipment with proprietary MAU types;  the OID values to identify
the proprietary MAU types would be assigned under the enterprise's
OID tree and would not require any external coordination (other than
to get an enterprise number in the first place).

Comments?

Mike Heard

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IANA [mailto:iana@iana.org]
> > Sent: dinsdag 27 mei 2003 20:42
> > To: iesg@ietf.org
> > Cc: johnf@rose.hp.com
> > Subject: RE: Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3
> > Medium Attachment Units (MAUs) to Proposed Standard
> > 
> > 
> > IESG:
> > 
> > The IANA has reviewed the following Internet-Draft which is 
> > in Last Call: <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-03.txt>, and 
> > has the following comments with regards to the publication of 
> > this document:
> > 
> > It is not clear what this document is requesting the IANA 
> > do.  Clarification is needed.
> > 
> > Please respond to the IANA about our concerns with regards to this
> > document.  Failing to do so may cause delay of the approval and
> > publication of your document.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Michelle S. Cotton
> > (on behalf of the IANA)

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Hub MIB folks --

Dan Romascanu asked me to forward the following message to the list.
The context of the discussion was a last call comment raised by the
IANA representative on the MAU-MIB regarding the following language
in the DESCRIPTION clauses of rpMauType and ifMauType:

  This object identifies the MAU type.  An initial set of MAU types
  are defined above.  The assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new
  types of MAUs is managed by the IANA.

The issue raised by the IANA representative is that the above
language by itself does not provide any instructions on how to
administer MAU type assignments.

Despite the above language (which has been around since RFC 1515)
MAU type assignments for IEEE 802 standard have been historically
been managed by the working group.  The solution proposed below is
to reword the DESCRIPTION clauses to remove the "is managed by the
IANA" language.

Comments from other WG members are solicited.

Regards,

Mike Heard

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:56:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: C. M. Heard <heard@pobox.com>
To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
Cc: John Flick <johnf@rose.hp.com>,
     "Dan Romascanu (E-mail)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, IANA <iana@iana.org>
Subject: RE: Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium
    Attachment Units (MAUs) to Proposed Standard

On Wed, 28 May 2003, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
> Mmm... strange that I overlooked this.

Apparently we all did.

> I guess we (probably the WG) need to decide how we want to
> handle this. Seems like we have these choices:
> 
> a.We ask IANA to keep a registry under dot3MauType, in which
>   case we need to add an IANA Considerations section to explain
>   how to make new assignments. If we choose for this one, we might
>   be better of to make it an IANA maintained MIB Module.
> b.We state that new values can only be created by Standards Action
>   (as per RFC2434) and then we're basically done. Seems IANA need to
>   do nothing in this case. We could wonder if we want IANA
>   to administer these and make a public list of the assignments (to
>   make it easier in the future to recognize if conflicts would arise).
>   If so we need to tell them about that in IANA consoderations
>   If not, we may want to remove all IANA related text I think.
> c.Seems we have only been adding new values in this document itself.
>   So we could mention that the only valid values are 0.0 and the
>   ones listed within this MIB module. In that case there is also
>   no IANA considerations and we may want to remove the IANA text.
> 
> So... did we intend to ever allow other MIB modules to make
> MauType assignments? Did we intend to allow proprietary 
> MauTypes (e.g. OIDs that we do not control al all?)

Bert,

We probably want something a little different from any of these
alternatives.

In practice, the WG always has to manage the standard (i.e., IEEE
802.3) MAU type assignments since adding a new standard MAU type
requires that a corresponding bit position be defined for
ifMauTypeListBits. The language "assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to
new types of MAUs is managed by the IANA" in the DESCRIPTION clauses
of rpMauType and ifMauType dates all the way back to RFC 1515, but
it seems to be historical since (i) no IANA MAU type registry was
ever created (or if it was, I can't find any evidence of it now) and
(ii) the WG has been managing all new standard MAU types that have
appeared in the various revisions of the MAU-MIB (RFC 2239, RFC
2668, and the present document).  This has been a practical
necessity since the type list object ifMauTypeList (now replaced by
ifMauTypeListBits) was introduced in RFC 2239.

It was (and I think still is) the intent to allow non-standard MAU
types.  The DESCRIPTION clause for ifMauTypeListBits says:

           DESCRIPTION "A value that uniquely identifies the set of
                       possible IEEE 802.3 types that the MAU could be.
                       If auto-negotiation is present on this MAU, this
                       object will map to ifMauAutoNegCapabilityBits.

                       Note that this MAU may be capable of operating
                       as a MAU type that is beyond the scope of this
                       MIB.  This is indicated by returning the
                       bit value bOther in addition to any bit values
                       for capabilities that are listed above."

In view of this, I think the correct course of action would be:

(i) remove the language "assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new
types of MAUs is managed by the IANA" and instead of saying that an
initial set of values is defined , say that values for standard IEEE
802.3 MAU types are defined;

(ii) inform the IANA that we don't need for them to create or
maintain an MAU type registry ... in fact we don't need for them to
do anything at all with respect to this document.

Here are the specific wording changes that I propose.

Change the DESCRIPTION clause of rpMauType as follows:

FROM:
           DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  An
                       initial set of MAU types are defined above.  The
                       assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new types of
                       MAUs is managed by the IANA.  If the MAU type is
                       unknown, the object identifier

                       unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }

                       is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
                       syntactically valid object identifier, and any
                       conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
                       must be able to generate and recognize this
                       value."

TO:
           DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  Values for
                       standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
                       If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier

                       unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }

                       is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
                       syntactically valid object identifier, and any
                       conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
                       must be able to generate and recognize this
                       value."

and change the DESCRIPTION clause of ifMauType as follows:

FROM:
           DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  An
                       initial set of MAU types are defined above.  The
                       assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new types of
                       MAUs is managed by the IANA.  If the MAU type is
                       unknown, the object identifier

                       unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }

                       is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
                       syntactically valid object identifier, and any
                       conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
                       must be able to generate and recognize this
                       value.

                       This object represents the operational type of
                       the MAU, as determined by either (1) the result
                       of the auto-negotiation function or (2) if
                       auto-negotiation is not enabled or is not
                       implemented for this MAU, by the value of the
                       object ifMauDefaultType.  In case (2), a set to
                       the object ifMauDefaultType will force the MAU
                       into the new operating mode."

TO:
           DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  Values for
                       standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
                       If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier

                       unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }

                       is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
                       syntactically valid object identifier, and any
                       conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
                       must be able to generate and recognize this
                       value.

                       This object represents the operational type of
                       the MAU, as determined by either (1) the result
                       of the auto-negotiation function or (2) if
                       auto-negotiation is not enabled or is not
                       implemented for this MAU, by the value of the
                       object ifMauDefaultType.  In case (2), a set to
                       the object ifMauDefaultType will force the MAU
                       into the new operating mode."

With those changes there would be no mention of IANA in the
document.  Note that this will still allow an enterprise to manage
equipment with proprietary MAU types;  the OID values to identify
the proprietary MAU types would be assigned under the enterprise's
OID tree and would not require any external coordination (other than
to get an enterprise number in the first place).

Comments?

Mike Heard

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IANA [mailto:iana@iana.org]
> > Sent: dinsdag 27 mei 2003 20:42
> > To: iesg@ietf.org
> > Cc: johnf@rose.hp.com
> > Subject: RE: Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3
> > Medium Attachment Units (MAUs) to Proposed Standard
> > 
> > 
> > IESG:
> > 
> > The IANA has reviewed the following Internet-Draft which is 
> > in Last Call: <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-03.txt>, and 
> > has the following comments with regards to the publication of 
> > this document:
> > 
> > It is not clear what this document is requesting the IANA 
> > do.  Clarification is needed.
> > 
> > Please respond to the IANA about our concerns with regards to this
> > document.  Failing to do so may cause delay of the approval and
> > publication of your document.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Michelle S. Cotton
> > (on behalf of the IANA)

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I agree with Mike's interpretation below.  The "IANA" text below
has been there since the initial version of this document.  We have
never had, or intended to have, an IANA registry, and we have always
allowed for proprietary MAU types, and this has been used in several
cases:

  - vendors who ship products using pre-standard MAUs, or for which
    the IEEE standard is done but the MIB update isn't.  For example,
    many vendors were shipping gigabit MAUs, and supporting the MAU
    MIB for them, long before we finished RFC 2668.

  - widely implemented, but non-standard MAU types.  A good example
    here is long-haul gigabit, for which there is no IEEE standard,
    but many vendors have implemented it.

  - truly proprietary MAU types.  I know we have at least one of
    these.

I will make the updates Mike suggests below, as well as fixing the
other outstanding nits that Mike found in March, and post a new
version today or tomorrow.

John

"C. M. Heard" wrote:
> 
> Hub MIB folks --
> 
> Dan Romascanu asked me to forward the following message to the list.
> The context of the discussion was a last call comment raised by the
> IANA representative on the MAU-MIB regarding the following language
> in the DESCRIPTION clauses of rpMauType and ifMauType:
> 
>   This object identifies the MAU type.  An initial set of MAU types
>   are defined above.  The assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new
>   types of MAUs is managed by the IANA.
> 
> The issue raised by the IANA representative is that the above
> language by itself does not provide any instructions on how to
> administer MAU type assignments.
> 
> Despite the above language (which has been around since RFC 1515)
> MAU type assignments for IEEE 802 standard have been historically
> been managed by the working group.  The solution proposed below is
> to reword the DESCRIPTION clauses to remove the "is managed by the
> IANA" language.
> 
> Comments from other WG members are solicited.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Heard
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:56:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: C. M. Heard <heard@pobox.com>
> To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
> Cc: John Flick <johnf@rose.hp.com>,
>      "Dan Romascanu (E-mail)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, IANA <iana@iana.org>
> Subject: RE: Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium
>     Attachment Units (MAUs) to Proposed Standard
> 
> On Wed, 28 May 2003, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
> > Mmm... strange that I overlooked this.
> 
> Apparently we all did.
> 
> > I guess we (probably the WG) need to decide how we want to
> > handle this. Seems like we have these choices:
> >
> > a.We ask IANA to keep a registry under dot3MauType, in which
> >   case we need to add an IANA Considerations section to explain
> >   how to make new assignments. If we choose for this one, we might
> >   be better of to make it an IANA maintained MIB Module.
> > b.We state that new values can only be created by Standards Action
> >   (as per RFC2434) and then we're basically done. Seems IANA need to
> >   do nothing in this case. We could wonder if we want IANA
> >   to administer these and make a public list of the assignments (to
> >   make it easier in the future to recognize if conflicts would arise).
> >   If so we need to tell them about that in IANA consoderations
> >   If not, we may want to remove all IANA related text I think.
> > c.Seems we have only been adding new values in this document itself.
> >   So we could mention that the only valid values are 0.0 and the
> >   ones listed within this MIB module. In that case there is also
> >   no IANA considerations and we may want to remove the IANA text.
> >
> > So... did we intend to ever allow other MIB modules to make
> > MauType assignments? Did we intend to allow proprietary
> > MauTypes (e.g. OIDs that we do not control al all?)
> 
> Bert,
> 
> We probably want something a little different from any of these
> alternatives.
> 
> In practice, the WG always has to manage the standard (i.e., IEEE
> 802.3) MAU type assignments since adding a new standard MAU type
> requires that a corresponding bit position be defined for
> ifMauTypeListBits. The language "assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to
> new types of MAUs is managed by the IANA" in the DESCRIPTION clauses
> of rpMauType and ifMauType dates all the way back to RFC 1515, but
> it seems to be historical since (i) no IANA MAU type registry was
> ever created (or if it was, I can't find any evidence of it now) and
> (ii) the WG has been managing all new standard MAU types that have
> appeared in the various revisions of the MAU-MIB (RFC 2239, RFC
> 2668, and the present document).  This has been a practical
> necessity since the type list object ifMauTypeList (now replaced by
> ifMauTypeListBits) was introduced in RFC 2239.
> 
> It was (and I think still is) the intent to allow non-standard MAU
> types.  The DESCRIPTION clause for ifMauTypeListBits says:
> 
>            DESCRIPTION "A value that uniquely identifies the set of
>                        possible IEEE 802.3 types that the MAU could be.
>                        If auto-negotiation is present on this MAU, this
>                        object will map to ifMauAutoNegCapabilityBits.
> 
>                        Note that this MAU may be capable of operating
>                        as a MAU type that is beyond the scope of this
>                        MIB.  This is indicated by returning the
>                        bit value bOther in addition to any bit values
>                        for capabilities that are listed above."
> 
> In view of this, I think the correct course of action would be:
> 
> (i) remove the language "assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new
> types of MAUs is managed by the IANA" and instead of saying that an
> initial set of values is defined , say that values for standard IEEE
> 802.3 MAU types are defined;
> 
> (ii) inform the IANA that we don't need for them to create or
> maintain an MAU type registry ... in fact we don't need for them to
> do anything at all with respect to this document.
> 
> Here are the specific wording changes that I propose.
> 
> Change the DESCRIPTION clause of rpMauType as follows:
> 
> FROM:
>            DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  An
>                        initial set of MAU types are defined above.  The
>                        assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new types of
>                        MAUs is managed by the IANA.  If the MAU type is
>                        unknown, the object identifier
> 
>                        unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }
> 
>                        is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
>                        syntactically valid object identifier, and any
>                        conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
>                        must be able to generate and recognize this
>                        value."
> 
> TO:
>            DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  Values for
>                        standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
>                        If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier
> 
>                        unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }
> 
>                        is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
>                        syntactically valid object identifier, and any
>                        conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
>                        must be able to generate and recognize this
>                        value."
> 
> and change the DESCRIPTION clause of ifMauType as follows:
> 
> FROM:
>            DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  An
>                        initial set of MAU types are defined above.  The
>                        assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new types of
>                        MAUs is managed by the IANA.  If the MAU type is
>                        unknown, the object identifier
> 
>                        unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }
> 
>                        is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
>                        syntactically valid object identifier, and any
>                        conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
>                        must be able to generate and recognize this
>                        value.
> 
>                        This object represents the operational type of
>                        the MAU, as determined by either (1) the result
>                        of the auto-negotiation function or (2) if
>                        auto-negotiation is not enabled or is not
>                        implemented for this MAU, by the value of the
>                        object ifMauDefaultType.  In case (2), a set to
>                        the object ifMauDefaultType will force the MAU
>                        into the new operating mode."
> 
> TO:
>            DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  Values for
>                        standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
>                        If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier
> 
>                        unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }
> 
>                        is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
>                        syntactically valid object identifier, and any
>                        conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
>                        must be able to generate and recognize this
>                        value.
> 
>                        This object represents the operational type of
>                        the MAU, as determined by either (1) the result
>                        of the auto-negotiation function or (2) if
>                        auto-negotiation is not enabled or is not
>                        implemented for this MAU, by the value of the
>                        object ifMauDefaultType.  In case (2), a set to
>                        the object ifMauDefaultType will force the MAU
>                        into the new operating mode."
> 
> With those changes there would be no mention of IANA in the
> document.  Note that this will still allow an enterprise to manage
> equipment with proprietary MAU types;  the OID values to identify
> the proprietary MAU types would be assigned under the enterprise's
> OID tree and would not require any external coordination (other than
> to get an enterprise number in the first place).
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Mike Heard
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IANA [mailto:iana@iana.org]
> > > Sent: dinsdag 27 mei 2003 20:42
> > > To: iesg@ietf.org
> > > Cc: johnf@rose.hp.com
> > > Subject: RE: Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3
> > > Medium Attachment Units (MAUs) to Proposed Standard
> > >
> > >
> > > IESG:
> > >
> > > The IANA has reviewed the following Internet-Draft which is
> > > in Last Call: <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-03.txt>, and
> > > has the following comments with regards to the publication of
> > > this document:
> > >
> > > It is not clear what this document is requesting the IANA
> > > do.  Clarification is needed.
> > >
> > > Please respond to the IANA about our concerns with regards to this
> > > document.  Failing to do so may cause delay of the approval and
> > > publication of your document.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Michelle S. Cotton
> > > (on behalf of the IANA)
> 
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I agree with Mike's interpretation below.  The "IANA" text below
has been there since the initial version of this document.  We have
never had, or intended to have, an IANA registry, and we have always
allowed for proprietary MAU types, and this has been used in several
cases:

  - vendors who ship products using pre-standard MAUs, or for which
    the IEEE standard is done but the MIB update isn't.  For example,
    many vendors were shipping gigabit MAUs, and supporting the MAU
    MIB for them, long before we finished RFC 2668.

  - widely implemented, but non-standard MAU types.  A good example
    here is long-haul gigabit, for which there is no IEEE standard,
    but many vendors have implemented it.

  - truly proprietary MAU types.  I know we have at least one of
    these.

I will make the updates Mike suggests below, as well as fixing the
other outstanding nits that Mike found in March, and post a new
version today or tomorrow.

John

"C. M. Heard" wrote:
> 
> Hub MIB folks --
> 
> Dan Romascanu asked me to forward the following message to the list.
> The context of the discussion was a last call comment raised by the
> IANA representative on the MAU-MIB regarding the following language
> in the DESCRIPTION clauses of rpMauType and ifMauType:
> 
>   This object identifies the MAU type.  An initial set of MAU types
>   are defined above.  The assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new
>   types of MAUs is managed by the IANA.
> 
> The issue raised by the IANA representative is that the above
> language by itself does not provide any instructions on how to
> administer MAU type assignments.
> 
> Despite the above language (which has been around since RFC 1515)
> MAU type assignments for IEEE 802 standard have been historically
> been managed by the working group.  The solution proposed below is
> to reword the DESCRIPTION clauses to remove the "is managed by the
> IANA" language.
> 
> Comments from other WG members are solicited.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike Heard
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:56:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: C. M. Heard <heard@pobox.com>
> To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
> Cc: John Flick <johnf@rose.hp.com>,
>      "Dan Romascanu (E-mail)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, IANA <iana@iana.org>
> Subject: RE: Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium
>     Attachment Units (MAUs) to Proposed Standard
> 
> On Wed, 28 May 2003, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
> > Mmm... strange that I overlooked this.
> 
> Apparently we all did.
> 
> > I guess we (probably the WG) need to decide how we want to
> > handle this. Seems like we have these choices:
> >
> > a.We ask IANA to keep a registry under dot3MauType, in which
> >   case we need to add an IANA Considerations section to explain
> >   how to make new assignments. If we choose for this one, we might
> >   be better of to make it an IANA maintained MIB Module.
> > b.We state that new values can only be created by Standards Action
> >   (as per RFC2434) and then we're basically done. Seems IANA need to
> >   do nothing in this case. We could wonder if we want IANA
> >   to administer these and make a public list of the assignments (to
> >   make it easier in the future to recognize if conflicts would arise).
> >   If so we need to tell them about that in IANA consoderations
> >   If not, we may want to remove all IANA related text I think.
> > c.Seems we have only been adding new values in this document itself.
> >   So we could mention that the only valid values are 0.0 and the
> >   ones listed within this MIB module. In that case there is also
> >   no IANA considerations and we may want to remove the IANA text.
> >
> > So... did we intend to ever allow other MIB modules to make
> > MauType assignments? Did we intend to allow proprietary
> > MauTypes (e.g. OIDs that we do not control al all?)
> 
> Bert,
> 
> We probably want something a little different from any of these
> alternatives.
> 
> In practice, the WG always has to manage the standard (i.e., IEEE
> 802.3) MAU type assignments since adding a new standard MAU type
> requires that a corresponding bit position be defined for
> ifMauTypeListBits. The language "assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to
> new types of MAUs is managed by the IANA" in the DESCRIPTION clauses
> of rpMauType and ifMauType dates all the way back to RFC 1515, but
> it seems to be historical since (i) no IANA MAU type registry was
> ever created (or if it was, I can't find any evidence of it now) and
> (ii) the WG has been managing all new standard MAU types that have
> appeared in the various revisions of the MAU-MIB (RFC 2239, RFC
> 2668, and the present document).  This has been a practical
> necessity since the type list object ifMauTypeList (now replaced by
> ifMauTypeListBits) was introduced in RFC 2239.
> 
> It was (and I think still is) the intent to allow non-standard MAU
> types.  The DESCRIPTION clause for ifMauTypeListBits says:
> 
>            DESCRIPTION "A value that uniquely identifies the set of
>                        possible IEEE 802.3 types that the MAU could be.
>                        If auto-negotiation is present on this MAU, this
>                        object will map to ifMauAutoNegCapabilityBits.
> 
>                        Note that this MAU may be capable of operating
>                        as a MAU type that is beyond the scope of this
>                        MIB.  This is indicated by returning the
>                        bit value bOther in addition to any bit values
>                        for capabilities that are listed above."
> 
> In view of this, I think the correct course of action would be:
> 
> (i) remove the language "assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new
> types of MAUs is managed by the IANA" and instead of saying that an
> initial set of values is defined , say that values for standard IEEE
> 802.3 MAU types are defined;
> 
> (ii) inform the IANA that we don't need for them to create or
> maintain an MAU type registry ... in fact we don't need for them to
> do anything at all with respect to this document.
> 
> Here are the specific wording changes that I propose.
> 
> Change the DESCRIPTION clause of rpMauType as follows:
> 
> FROM:
>            DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  An
>                        initial set of MAU types are defined above.  The
>                        assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new types of
>                        MAUs is managed by the IANA.  If the MAU type is
>                        unknown, the object identifier
> 
>                        unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }
> 
>                        is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
>                        syntactically valid object identifier, and any
>                        conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
>                        must be able to generate and recognize this
>                        value."
> 
> TO:
>            DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  Values for
>                        standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
>                        If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier
> 
>                        unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }
> 
>                        is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
>                        syntactically valid object identifier, and any
>                        conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
>                        must be able to generate and recognize this
>                        value."
> 
> and change the DESCRIPTION clause of ifMauType as follows:
> 
> FROM:
>            DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  An
>                        initial set of MAU types are defined above.  The
>                        assignment of OBJECT IDENTIFIERs to new types of
>                        MAUs is managed by the IANA.  If the MAU type is
>                        unknown, the object identifier
> 
>                        unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }
> 
>                        is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
>                        syntactically valid object identifier, and any
>                        conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
>                        must be able to generate and recognize this
>                        value.
> 
>                        This object represents the operational type of
>                        the MAU, as determined by either (1) the result
>                        of the auto-negotiation function or (2) if
>                        auto-negotiation is not enabled or is not
>                        implemented for this MAU, by the value of the
>                        object ifMauDefaultType.  In case (2), a set to
>                        the object ifMauDefaultType will force the MAU
>                        into the new operating mode."
> 
> TO:
>            DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type.  Values for
>                        standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
>                        If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier
> 
>                        unknownMauType OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 0 0 }
> 
>                        is returned.  Note that unknownMauType is a
>                        syntactically valid object identifier, and any
>                        conformant implementation of ASN.1 and the BER
>                        must be able to generate and recognize this
>                        value.
> 
>                        This object represents the operational type of
>                        the MAU, as determined by either (1) the result
>                        of the auto-negotiation function or (2) if
>                        auto-negotiation is not enabled or is not
>                        implemented for this MAU, by the value of the
>                        object ifMauDefaultType.  In case (2), a set to
>                        the object ifMauDefaultType will force the MAU
>                        into the new operating mode."
> 
> With those changes there would be no mention of IANA in the
> document.  Note that this will still allow an enterprise to manage
> equipment with proprietary MAU types;  the OID values to identify
> the proprietary MAU types would be assigned under the enterprise's
> OID tree and would not require any external coordination (other than
> to get an enterprise number in the first place).
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Mike Heard
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IANA [mailto:iana@iana.org]
> > > Sent: dinsdag 27 mei 2003 20:42
> > > To: iesg@ietf.org
> > > Cc: johnf@rose.hp.com
> > > Subject: RE: Last Call: Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3
> > > Medium Attachment Units (MAUs) to Proposed Standard
> > >
> > >
> > > IESG:
> > >
> > > The IANA has reviewed the following Internet-Draft which is
> > > in Last Call: <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-03.txt>, and
> > > has the following comments with regards to the publication of
> > > this document:
> > >
> > > It is not clear what this document is requesting the IANA
> > > do.  Clarification is needed.
> > >
> > > Please respond to the IANA about our concerns with regards to this
> > > document.  Failing to do so may cause delay of the approval and
> > > publication of your document.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Michelle S. Cotton
> > > (on behalf of the IANA)
> 
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Special thanks to Mike Heard and John Flick - editors of this round of the documents. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:14 PM
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> 
> IESG just approved the following:
>       o Definitions of Managed Objects for the Ethernet-like 
> Interface 
>         Types (Proposed Standard) 
>         <draft-ietf-hubmib-etherif-mib-v3-03.txt>
>         - Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium 
>           Attachment Units (MAUs) (Proposed Standard) 
>           <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-04.txt>
>         - Definition of Managed Objects for the Ethernet WAN 
> Interface 
>           Sublayer (Proposed Standard) 
>           <draft-ietf-hubmib-wis-mib-07.txt>
>         - Applicability Statement for Reclassification of RFC 1643 to 
>           Historic Status (Informational) 
>           <draft-ietf-hubmib-1643-to-historic-01.txt>
> 
> Formal announcement will come from IESG on IETF announce in the next
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Special thanks to Mike Heard and John Flick - editors of this round of the documents. 

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:14 PM
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> 
> 
> IESG just approved the following:
>       o Definitions of Managed Objects for the Ethernet-like 
> Interface 
>         Types (Proposed Standard) 
>         <draft-ietf-hubmib-etherif-mib-v3-03.txt>
>         - Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium 
>           Attachment Units (MAUs) (Proposed Standard) 
>           <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-04.txt>
>         - Definition of Managed Objects for the Ethernet WAN 
> Interface 
>           Sublayer (Proposed Standard) 
>           <draft-ietf-hubmib-wis-mib-07.txt>
>         - Applicability Statement for Reclassification of RFC 1643 to 
>           Historic Status (Informational) 
>           <draft-ietf-hubmib-1643-to-historic-01.txt>
> 
> Formal announcement will come from IESG on IETF announce in the next
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> Thanks for all the good work!
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Dan,

I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).

Regards,
-Edward Beili
 Senior System Engineer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:43 AM
> To: Edward Beili
> Cc: Ilan Reingold
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> 
> 
> Thanks. What level of involvement can you assume? Are you 
> interested to be a co-editor of the future standard? Also, 
> what flavor of EFM do you / your company specialize in? 
> 
> If would also be VERY useful if you can provide your positive 
> answer to the Hub MIB e-mail list (hubmib@ietf.org). We need 
> visible proof of interest in the participation in order to 
> have this work approved by the IETF leadership. There is no 
> need to subscribe to the list in order to send mail (unless 
> you want to be subscribed).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:29 PM
> > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > Cc: Ilan Reingold
> > Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Dan,
> > 
> > There's definitely a need for EFM related changes in existing MIBs.
> > I've asked this question in Seoul and was told that you are 
> > coordinating the
> > work.
> > I would like to be involved in it.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > To: hubmib@ietf.org
> > Cc: stds-802-3-efm@ieee.org
> > Sent: 5/29/03 6:35 PM
> > Subject: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> > 
> > Our Area Directors copied me on a query that they received about
> > eventual work on a IEEE 802.3af MIB. I have sent a query to 
> > the WG list
> > last January, and I do not remember having received any 
> > feedback. Truth
> > is that by that point in time the Management and OAM clauses 
> > in the EFM
> > work were pretty open. This has probably changed by now and with the
> > 802.3ah Draft getting closer to Sponsor Ballot, it is 
> probably a good
> > time to ask the question again. is there interest for a 
> 802.3ah (EFM)
> > MIB work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB 
> Working Group? As
> > the IETF rules say, we need a visible level of interest, and 
> > volunteers
> > to commit to do the work in order to be able to discuss 
> re-chartering
> > the WG with the ADs. 
> > 
> > I am copying the IEEE 802.3ah list - feedback is obviously 
> > welcome from
> > them as well.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > Dan Romascanu,
> > 
> > Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG
> > 
> > 
> 
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My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).

Regards,
-Edward Beili
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:43 AM
> To: Edward Beili
> Cc: Ilan Reingold
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> 
> 
> Thanks. What level of involvement can you assume? Are you 
> interested to be a co-editor of the future standard? Also, 
> what flavor of EFM do you / your company specialize in? 
> 
> If would also be VERY useful if you can provide your positive 
> answer to the Hub MIB e-mail list (hubmib@ietf.org). We need 
> visible proof of interest in the participation in order to 
> have this work approved by the IETF leadership. There is no 
> need to subscribe to the list in order to send mail (unless 
> you want to be subscribed).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:29 PM
> > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > Cc: Ilan Reingold
> > Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Dan,
> > 
> > There's definitely a need for EFM related changes in existing MIBs.
> > I've asked this question in Seoul and was told that you are 
> > coordinating the
> > work.
> > I would like to be involved in it.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > To: hubmib@ietf.org
> > Cc: stds-802-3-efm@ieee.org
> > Sent: 5/29/03 6:35 PM
> > Subject: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> > 
> > Our Area Directors copied me on a query that they received about
> > eventual work on a IEEE 802.3af MIB. I have sent a query to 
> > the WG list
> > last January, and I do not remember having received any 
> > feedback. Truth
> > is that by that point in time the Management and OAM clauses 
> > in the EFM
> > work were pretty open. This has probably changed by now and with the
> > 802.3ah Draft getting closer to Sponsor Ballot, it is 
> probably a good
> > time to ask the question again. is there interest for a 
> 802.3ah (EFM)
> > MIB work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB 
> Working Group? As
> > the IETF rules say, we need a visible level of interest, and 
> > volunteers
> > to commit to do the work in order to be able to discuss 
> re-chartering
> > the WG with the ADs. 
> > 
> > I am copying the IEEE 802.3ah list - feedback is obviously 
> > welcome from
> > them as well.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > Dan Romascanu,
> > 
> > Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG
> > 
> > 
> 
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The IESG has approved the following documents. These documents
are the product of the Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working
Group. The IESG contact persons are Randy Bush and Bert Wijnen

o Definitions of Managed Objects for the Ethernet-like Interface Types
    <draft-ietf-hubmib-etherif-mib-v3-03.txt>
    Proposed Standard
                                                                                                                                                                             
o Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium Attachment Units (MAUs)
    <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-04.txt>
    Proposed Standard
                                                                                                                                                                             
o Definition of Managed Objects for the Ethernet WAN Interface Sublayer
    <draft-ietf-hubmib-wis-mib-07.txt>
    Proposed Standard
                                                                                                                                                                             
o Applicability Statement for Reclassification of RFC 1643 to Historic Status
    <draft-ietf-hubmib-1643-to-historic-01.txt>
    Informational

At the same time, the IESG approved the re-classification of RFC1643
to Historic Status.
 
Technical Summary
 
  o Definitions of Managed Objects for the Ethernet-like Interface Types.

      This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
      for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
      In particular, it defines objects for managing Ethernet-like
      interfaces.

      This memo obsoletes RFC 2665. It updates that specification by
      including management information useful for the management of 10
      Gigabit per second (Gb/s) Ethernet interfaces.

  o Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium Attachment
      Units (MAUs)

      This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
      for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
      In particular, it defines objects for managing IEEE 802.3 Medium
      Attachment Units (MAUs).

      This memo obsoletes RFC 2668. This memo extends that specification
      by including management information useful for the management of 10
      gigabit per second (Gb/s) MAUs. This memo also obsoletes RFC 1515.
                                                                                                                                                                             
  o Definition of Managed Objects for the Ethernet WAN Interface Sublayer

      This document defines a portion of the Management Information Base
      (MIB) for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based
      internets. In particular, it defines objects for managing the
      Ethernet Wide Area Network (WAN) Interface Sublayer (WIS).

      The MIB module defined in this memo is an extension of the SONET/SDH
      Interface MIB and is implemented in conjunction with it and with the
      Ethernet-like Interface MIB, the 802.3 Medium Attachment Unit MIB,
      the Interfaces Group MIB, and the Inverted Stack Table MIB.
                                                                                                                                                                             
  o Applicability Statement for Reclassification of RFC 1643 to Historic
      Status

      This memo recommends that RFC 1643 be reclassified as an Historic
      document and provides the supporting motivation for that
      recommendation.
 
Working Group Summary
 
  There is Working Group Consensus on the above documents for Proposed
  Standard and for reclassification of RFC1643 to Historic Status.
 
Protocol Quality
 
  These documents have been reviewed for the IESG by Bert Wijnen.


RFC-Editor note:

In document draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-04.txt, pls remove an
extraneous "IANA. " on page 25.

CURRENT TEXT:
       DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type. Values for
       standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
       IANA. If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier

SHOULD BE:
       DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type. Values for
       standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
       If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier

Bert
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The IESG has approved the following documents. These documents
are the product of the Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working
Group. The IESG contact persons are Randy Bush and Bert Wijnen

o Definitions of Managed Objects for the Ethernet-like Interface Types
    <draft-ietf-hubmib-etherif-mib-v3-03.txt>
    Proposed Standard
                                                                                                                                                                             
o Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium Attachment Units (MAUs)
    <draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-04.txt>
    Proposed Standard
                                                                                                                                                                             
o Definition of Managed Objects for the Ethernet WAN Interface Sublayer
    <draft-ietf-hubmib-wis-mib-07.txt>
    Proposed Standard
                                                                                                                                                                             
o Applicability Statement for Reclassification of RFC 1643 to Historic Status
    <draft-ietf-hubmib-1643-to-historic-01.txt>
    Informational

At the same time, the IESG approved the re-classification of RFC1643
to Historic Status.
 
Technical Summary
 
  o Definitions of Managed Objects for the Ethernet-like Interface Types.

      This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
      for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
      In particular, it defines objects for managing Ethernet-like
      interfaces.

      This memo obsoletes RFC 2665. It updates that specification by
      including management information useful for the management of 10
      Gigabit per second (Gb/s) Ethernet interfaces.

  o Definitions of Managed Objects for IEEE 802.3 Medium Attachment
      Units (MAUs)

      This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
      for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
      In particular, it defines objects for managing IEEE 802.3 Medium
      Attachment Units (MAUs).

      This memo obsoletes RFC 2668. This memo extends that specification
      by including management information useful for the management of 10
      gigabit per second (Gb/s) MAUs. This memo also obsoletes RFC 1515.
                                                                                                                                                                             
  o Definition of Managed Objects for the Ethernet WAN Interface Sublayer

      This document defines a portion of the Management Information Base
      (MIB) for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based
      internets. In particular, it defines objects for managing the
      Ethernet Wide Area Network (WAN) Interface Sublayer (WIS).

      The MIB module defined in this memo is an extension of the SONET/SDH
      Interface MIB and is implemented in conjunction with it and with the
      Ethernet-like Interface MIB, the 802.3 Medium Attachment Unit MIB,
      the Interfaces Group MIB, and the Inverted Stack Table MIB.
                                                                                                                                                                             
  o Applicability Statement for Reclassification of RFC 1643 to Historic
      Status

      This memo recommends that RFC 1643 be reclassified as an Historic
      document and provides the supporting motivation for that
      recommendation.
 
Working Group Summary
 
  There is Working Group Consensus on the above documents for Proposed
  Standard and for reclassification of RFC1643 to Historic Status.
 
Protocol Quality
 
  These documents have been reviewed for the IESG by Bert Wijnen.


RFC-Editor note:

In document draft-ietf-hubmib-mau-mib-v3-04.txt, pls remove an
extraneous "IANA. " on page 25.

CURRENT TEXT:
       DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type. Values for
       standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
       IANA. If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier

SHOULD BE:
       DESCRIPTION "This object identifies the MAU type. Values for
       standard IEEE 802.3 MAU types are defined above.
       If the MAU type is unknown, the object identifier

Bert
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	Title		: Power Ethernet MIB
	Author(s)	: A. Berger, D. Romascanu
	Filename	: draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-06.txt
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the
> Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 	Title		: Power Ethernet MIB
> 	Author(s)	: A. Berger, D. Romascanu
> 	Filename	: draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-06.txt
> 	Pages		: 21
> 	Date		: 2003-6-20

This version addresses all my previous "must-fix" MIB doctor review
comments and does not raise any new ones.  It also seems to address
all the other WG Last Call comments;  if the other commenters are
indeed satisfied, I think that we forward this document to the IESG
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This draft does seem to address my original concerns about sparse
object numbering.  I did just notice that there is OID sparseness
in the notifications (there is no 2 or 3) but I'm fine with it if 
everyone else is.

chuck

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Charles McTague
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Enterasys Networks, Inc.


>-----Original Message-----
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>On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
>> Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the
>> Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working Group of the IETF.
>> 
>> 	Title		: Power Ethernet MIB
>> 	Author(s)	: A. Berger, D. Romascanu
>> 	Filename	: draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-06.txt
>> 	Pages		: 21
>> 	Date		: 2003-6-20
>
>This version addresses all my previous "must-fix" MIB doctor review
>comments and does not raise any new ones.  It also seems to address
>all the other WG Last Call comments;  if the other commenters are
>indeed satisfied, I think that we forward this document to the IESG
>for consideration as a Proposed Standard.
>
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	Title		: Power Ethernet MIB
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	Filename	: draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-06.txt
	Pages		: 21
	Date		: 2003-6-20
	
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> object numbering.  I did just notice that there is OID sparseness
> in the notifications (there is no 2 or 3) but I'm fine with it if 
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, McTague, Charles wrote:
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> in the notifications (there is no 2 or 3) but I'm fine with it if 
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We both seem to have missed this in our previous comments.  Ideally
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the
> Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 	Title		: Power Ethernet MIB
> 	Author(s)	: A. Berger, D. Romascanu
> 	Filename	: draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-06.txt
> 	Pages		: 21
> 	Date		: 2003-6-20

This version addresses all my previous "must-fix" MIB doctor review
comments and does not raise any new ones.  It also seems to address
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This draft does seem to address my original concerns about sparse
object numbering.  I did just notice that there is OID sparseness
in the notifications (there is no 2 or 3) but I'm fine with it if 
everyone else is.

chuck

---------------------------
Charles McTague
Principal Firmware Engineer
Enterasys Networks, Inc.


>-----Original Message-----
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>
>
>On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
>> Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the
>> Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working Group of the IETF.
>> 
>> 	Title		: Power Ethernet MIB
>> 	Author(s)	: A. Berger, D. Romascanu
>> 	Filename	: draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-06.txt
>> 	Pages		: 21
>> 	Date		: 2003-6-20
>
>This version addresses all my previous "must-fix" MIB doctor review
>comments and does not raise any new ones.  It also seems to address
>all the other WG Last Call comments;  if the other commenters are
>indeed satisfied, I think that we forward this document to the IESG
>for consideration as a Proposed Standard.
>
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I will issue version 07 fixing this problem. Thanks to both of you for =
the careful reviewing of the draft.=20

Dan


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> ACTION:draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-06.txt
>=20
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> On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, McTague, Charles wrote:
> > This draft does seem to address my original concerns about sparse
> > object numbering.  I did just notice that there is OID sparseness
> > in the notifications (there is no 2 or 3) but I'm fine with it if=20
> > everyone else is.
>=20
> We both seem to have missed this in our previous comments.  Ideally
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> the document authors.
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> Mike Heard
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I will issue version 07 fixing this problem. Thanks to both of you for =
the careful reviewing of the draft.=20

Dan


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> On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, McTague, Charles wrote:
> > This draft does seem to address my original concerns about sparse
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> > in the notifications (there is no 2 or 3) but I'm fine with it if=20
> > everyone else is.
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> We both seem to have missed this in our previous comments.  Ideally
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		Daniel.

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	Dear Mr. Romascanu,
	I was looking at
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Power Ethernet MIB now points to a draft 8 which has its text cut
(http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-08
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ml) talked about a draft 7.
	Do you know what's the latest and most updated draft? Is it in last
call?
	Thanks in advance,
		Daniel.

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> 
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Daniel Feldman wrote:
> 	I was looking at
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/hubmib-charter.html and the link to the
> Power Ethernet MIB now points to a draft 8 which has its text cut
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-08
> .txt), while the last message in the mailing list
> (http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/hubmib/current/msg00379.ht
> ml) talked about a draft 7.
> 	Do you know what's the latest and most updated draft? Is it in last
> call?

The latest draft is -08, which is available in the I-D repository but has not 
yet been announced.  The announcement should appear shortly.  Dan will have
the authoritative answer, but my understanding is that WG last call is done
and the next step is to send the document to the IESG (at which point it will
undergo IETF last call).

BTW, the only difference between -07 and -08 is a fix to the LAST-UPDATED
time in the MIB module.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Daniel Feldman wrote:
> 	I was looking at
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/hubmib-charter.html and the link to the
> Power Ethernet MIB now points to a draft 8 which has its text cut
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-ethernet-mib-08
> .txt), while the last message in the mailing list
> (http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/hubmib/current/msg00379.ht
> ml) talked about a draft 7.
> 	Do you know what's the latest and most updated draft? Is it in last
> call?

The latest draft is -08, which is available in the I-D repository but has not 
yet been announced.  The announcement should appear shortly.  Dan will have
the authoritative answer, but my understanding is that WG last call is done
and the next step is to send the document to the IESG (at which point it will
undergo IETF last call).

BTW, the only difference between -07 and -08 is a fix to the LAST-UPDATED
time in the MIB module.

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Daniel,

The latest version is draft 8. It was submitted on Monday, 6/23 but the =
announcement is yet to show up. There is no difference between draft 7 =
and draft 8, excepting the correction of an in-accurate date in the LAST =
UPDATE clause.=20

The MIB already went through the second WG Last Call, and all the =
comments received during the last call were incorporated. As soon as the =
announcement will be out, I will submit the document to the IESG for =
consideration as Proposed Standard.

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Feldman [mailto:danielf@powerdsine.com]
> Sent: 26 June, 2003 10:21 AM
> To: 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> Subject: [Hubmib] Power Ethernet MIB drafts
>=20
>=20
> 	Dear Mr. Romascanu,
> 	I was looking at
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/hubmib-charter.html and the=20
> link to the
> Power Ethernet MIB now points to a draft 8 which has its text cut
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-e
> thernet-mib-08
> .txt), while the last message in the mailing list
> (http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/hubmib/curre
nt/msg00379.ht
ml) talked about a draft 7.
	Do you know what's the latest and most updated draft? Is it in last
call?
	Thanks in advance,
		Daniel.

> Daniel Feldman
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Peter,
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The Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working Group (hubmib) has no =
meeting scheduled at the 57th IETF. If you are interested in the WG =
activity, and would like to provide inputs related to its scope, you may =
use the WG e-mail list - hubmib@ietf.org.
=20
Regards,
=20
Dan
=20
Dan Romascanu,
Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Wery [mailto:wery@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: 25 June, 2003 9:46 PM
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james_luciani@mindspring.com; awduche@isocore.com; avri@acm.org; =
ksundell@nortelnetworks.com; swallow@cisco.com; loa@pi.se; =
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zinin@psg.com; narten@us.ibm.com; erik.nordmark@sun.com; =
sjtrowbridge@lucent.com; wesam.alanqar@mail.sprint.com; =
hklam@lucent.com; jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; paolo.rosa@itu.int
Subject: SG 15 Representatives at IETF #57



Gentlemen,=20

in line with the provisions of the 'IETF and ITU-T Collaboration =
Guidelines' (RFC 3356, clause 3.2.2), please be advised that the =
following people plan to participate (registration fees apply)  in your =
WGs at the upcoming IETF # 57 (13-18 July 2003, Vienna, Austria):

- Wesam Alanqar in his role as  'SG 15 Representative to IETF ccamp and =
ipo'=20
- Jonathan Sadler in his role as  'SG 15 Representative to IETF gsmp'=20
- Kam Lam  in his role as  'SG 15 Representative to IETF on Transport =
Network Management', i.e. =20
  WGs atommib, hubmib, ifmib, disman, snmpv3=20
- Steve Trowbridge (Vice-Chairman of SG 15) in his role as Chairman of =
ITU-T WP 3/15 (OTN =20
  Structure), i.e. relevant to IETF ccamp, ipo, mpls, ppvpn, tewg and =
other sub-IP related activities.=20

These SG 15 people may also present Liaison Statements from SG 15 as =
appropriate. =20

Regards,=20

Peter Wery=20
Chairman ITU-T Study Group 15=20

T:     +1 613 763 7603=20
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size=3D2>-=20
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Peter,
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Thank you for your message.
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The Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working Group (hubmib) has no =
meeting scheduled at the 57th IETF. If you are interested in the WG =
activity, and would like to provide inputs related to its scope, you may =
use the WG e-mail list - hubmib@ietf.org.
=20
Regards,
=20
Dan
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Dan Romascanu,
Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Wery [mailto:wery@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: 25 June, 2003 9:46 PM
To: ronald.p.bonica@wcom.com; 'kireeti@juniper.net'; =
james_luciani@mindspring.com; awduche@isocore.com; avri@acm.org; =
ksundell@nortelnetworks.com; swallow@cisco.com; loa@pi.se; =
rwilder@masergy.com; ejk@tech.org; jboyle@pdnets.com; Romascanu, Dan =
(Dan); fayely98@hotmail.com; tbrunner@omneon.com; =
randy_presuhn@mindspring.com; mundy@tislabs.com; dbh@enterasys.com
Cc: randy@psg.com; 'sob@harvard.edu'; 'bwijnen@lucent.com'; =
zinin@psg.com; narten@us.ibm.com; erik.nordmark@sun.com; =
sjtrowbridge@lucent.com; wesam.alanqar@mail.sprint.com; =
hklam@lucent.com; jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com; paolo.rosa@itu.int
Subject: SG 15 Representatives at IETF #57



Gentlemen,=20

in line with the provisions of the 'IETF and ITU-T Collaboration =
Guidelines' (RFC 3356, clause 3.2.2), please be advised that the =
following people plan to participate (registration fees apply)  in your =
WGs at the upcoming IETF # 57 (13-18 July 2003, Vienna, Austria):

- Wesam Alanqar in his role as  'SG 15 Representative to IETF ccamp and =
ipo'=20
- Jonathan Sadler in his role as  'SG 15 Representative to IETF gsmp'=20
- Kam Lam  in his role as  'SG 15 Representative to IETF on Transport =
Network Management', i.e. =20
  WGs atommib, hubmib, ifmib, disman, snmpv3=20
- Steve Trowbridge (Vice-Chairman of SG 15) in his role as Chairman of =
ITU-T WP 3/15 (OTN =20
  Structure), i.e. relevant to IETF ccamp, ipo, mpls, ppvpn, tewg and =
other sub-IP related activities.=20

These SG 15 people may also present Liaison Statements from SG 15 as =
appropriate. =20

Regards,=20

Peter Wery=20
Chairman ITU-T Study Group 15=20

T:     +1 613 763 7603=20
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  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in line with the provisions of the =
'IETF and ITU-T=20
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3356,</FONT>=20
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following=20
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at the=20
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  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- Wesam Alanqar in his role as&nbsp; =
'SG 15=20
  Representative to IETF ccamp and ipo'</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>-=20
  Jonathan Sadler in his role as&nbsp; 'SG 15 Representative to IETF=20
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role as&nbsp;=20
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Daniel,

The latest version is draft 8. It was submitted on Monday, 6/23 but the =
announcement is yet to show up. There is no difference between draft 7 =
and draft 8, excepting the correction of an in-accurate date in the LAST =
UPDATE clause.=20

The MIB already went through the second WG Last Call, and all the =
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announcement will be out, I will submit the document to the IESG for =
consideration as Proposed Standard.

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 26 June, 2003 10:21 AM
> To: 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> Subject: [Hubmib] Power Ethernet MIB drafts
>=20
>=20
> 	Dear Mr. Romascanu,
> 	I was looking at
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/hubmib-charter.html and the=20
> link to the
> Power Ethernet MIB now points to a draft 8 which has its text cut
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-e
> thernet-mib-08
> .txt), while the last message in the mailing list
> (http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/hubmib/curre
nt/msg00379.ht
ml) talked about a draft 7.
	Do you know what's the latest and most updated draft? Is it in last
call?
	Thanks in advance,
		Daniel.

> Daniel Feldman
>=20
> Product Manager=20
> PowerDsine Ltd.
> Tel: +972-9-775-5100 (Ext: 159)
> Fax: +972-9-775-5112
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Daniel,

The latest version is draft 8. It was submitted on Monday, 6/23 but the
announcement is yet to show up. There is no difference between draft 7 and
draft 8, excepting the correction of an in-accurate date in the LAST UPDATE
clause. 

The MIB already went through the second WG Last Call, and all the comments
received during the last call were incorporated. As soon as the announcement
will be out, I will submit the document to the IESG for consideration as
Proposed Standard.

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 26 June, 2003 10:21 AM
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> Subject: [Hubmib] Power Ethernet MIB drafts
> 
> 
> 	Dear Mr. Romascanu,
> 	I was looking at
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/hubmib-charter.html and the 
> link to the
> Power Ethernet MIB now points to a draft 8 which has its text cut
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-e
> thernet-mib-08
> .txt), while the last message in the mailing list
> (http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/hubmib/curre
nt/msg00379.ht
ml) talked about a draft 7.
	Do you know what's the latest and most updated draft? Is it in last
call?
	Thanks in advance,
		Daniel.

> Daniel Feldman
> 
> Product Manager 
> PowerDsine Ltd.
> Tel: +972-9-775-5100 (Ext: 159)
> Fax: +972-9-775-5112
> www.PowerDsine.com
> 
> 

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Daniel,

The latest version is draft 8. It was submitted on Monday, 6/23 but the
announcement is yet to show up. There is no difference between draft 7 and
draft 8, excepting the correction of an in-accurate date in the LAST UPDATE
clause. 

The MIB already went through the second WG Last Call, and all the comments
received during the last call were incorporated. As soon as the announcement
will be out, I will submit the document to the IESG for consideration as
Proposed Standard.

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 26 June, 2003 10:21 AM
> To: 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> Subject: [Hubmib] Power Ethernet MIB drafts
> 
> 
> 	Dear Mr. Romascanu,
> 	I was looking at
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/hubmib-charter.html and the 
> link to the
> Power Ethernet MIB now points to a draft 8 which has its text cut
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hubmib-power-e
> thernet-mib-08
> .txt), while the last message in the mailing list
> (http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/hubmib/curre
nt/msg00379.ht
ml) talked about a draft 7.
	Do you know what's the latest and most updated draft? Is it in last
call?
	Thanks in advance,
		Daniel.

> Daniel Feldman
> 
> Product Manager 
> PowerDsine Ltd.
> Tel: +972-9-775-5100 (Ext: 159)
> Fax: +972-9-775-5112
> www.PowerDsine.com
> 
> 

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I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.

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Vincent Bemmel
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> Dan,
>
>I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
>My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
>(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
>
>Regards,
>-Edward Beili
> Senior System Engineer
> Actelis Networks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:43 AM
> To: Edward Beili
> Cc: Ilan Reingold
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> 
> 
> Thanks. What level of involvement can you assume? Are you 
> interested to be a co-editor of the future standard? Also, 
> what flavor of EFM do you / your company specialize in? 
> 
> If would also be VERY useful if you can provide your positive 
> answer to the Hub MIB e-mail list (hubmib@ietf.org). We need 
> visible proof of interest in the participation in order to 
> have this work approved by the IETF leadership. There is no 
> need to subscribe to the list in order to send mail (unless 
> you want to be subscribed).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:29 PM
> > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > Cc: Ilan Reingold
> > Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Dan,
> > 
> > There's definitely a need for EFM related changes in existing MIBs.
> > I've asked this question in Seoul and was told that you are 
> > coordinating the
> > work.
> > I would like to be involved in it.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > To: hubmib@ietf.org
> > Cc: stds-802-3-efm@ieee.org
> > Sent: 5/29/03 6:35 PM
> > Subject: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> > 
> > Our Area Directors copied me on a query that they received about
> > eventual work on a IEEE 802.3af MIB. I have sent a query to 
> > the WG list
> > last January, and I do not remember having received any 
> > feedback. Truth
> > is that by that point in time the Management and OAM clauses 
> > in the EFM
> > work were pretty open. This has probably changed by now and with the
> > 802.3ah Draft getting closer to Sponsor Ballot, it is 
> probably a good
> > time to ask the question again. is there interest for a 
> 802.3ah (EFM)
> > MIB work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB 
> Working Group? As
> > the IETF rules say, we need a visible level of interest, and 
> > volunteers
> > to commit to do the work in order to be able to discuss 
> re-chartering
> > the WG with the ADs. 
> > 
> > I am copying the IEEE 802.3ah list - feedback is obviously 
> > welcome from
> > them as well.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > Dan Romascanu,
> > 
> > Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG
> > 
> > 


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Dan,

I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include seperate MIBs for
the OLT and the ONU with associated services.

I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.

Regards,

Vincent Bemmel
Alloptic
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> Dan,
>
>I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
>My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
>(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
>
>Regards,
>-Edward Beili
> Senior System Engineer
> Actelis Networks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:43 AM
> To: Edward Beili
> Cc: Ilan Reingold
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> 
> 
> Thanks. What level of involvement can you assume? Are you 
> interested to be a co-editor of the future standard? Also, 
> what flavor of EFM do you / your company specialize in? 
> 
> If would also be VERY useful if you can provide your positive 
> answer to the Hub MIB e-mail list (hubmib@ietf.org). We need 
> visible proof of interest in the participation in order to 
> have this work approved by the IETF leadership. There is no 
> need to subscribe to the list in order to send mail (unless 
> you want to be subscribed).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:29 PM
> > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > Cc: Ilan Reingold
> > Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Dan,
> > 
> > There's definitely a need for EFM related changes in existing MIBs.
> > I've asked this question in Seoul and was told that you are 
> > coordinating the
> > work.
> > I would like to be involved in it.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> > To: hubmib@ietf.org
> > Cc: stds-802-3-efm@ieee.org
> > Sent: 5/29/03 6:35 PM
> > Subject: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> > 
> > Our Area Directors copied me on a query that they received about
> > eventual work on a IEEE 802.3af MIB. I have sent a query to 
> > the WG list
> > last January, and I do not remember having received any 
> > feedback. Truth
> > is that by that point in time the Management and OAM clauses 
> > in the EFM
> > work were pretty open. This has probably changed by now and with the
> > 802.3ah Draft getting closer to Sponsor Ballot, it is 
> probably a good
> > time to ask the question again. is there interest for a 
> 802.3ah (EFM)
> > MIB work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB 
> Working Group? As
> > the IETF rules say, we need a visible level of interest, and 
> > volunteers
> > to commit to do the work in order to be able to discuss 
> re-chartering
> > the WG with the ADs. 
> > 
> > I am copying the IEEE 802.3ah list - feedback is obviously 
> > welcome from
> > them as well.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > Dan Romascanu,
> > 
> > Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG
> > 
> > 


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Up to this point we have two volunteers for participating in a possible =
802.3ah MIB work - one for copper, and one for EPON. We have also noted =
the interest expressed by the Chair of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard =
Frazier. This is promising, but still, IMO,  under the threshold of =
interest required for starting new work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces =
and Hub MIB WG.

If you and/or your sponsoring company are interested in participating in =
this work and/or implementing a future standard EFM MIB (whatever flavor =
of EFM) in your products - please send an e-mail to hubmib@ietf.org.=20

Thanks,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bemmel, Vincent [mailto:vincent.bemmel@Alloptic.com]
> Sent: 30 June, 2003 5:39 AM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
>=20
>=20
> Dan,
>=20
> I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include=20
> seperate MIBs for
> the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
>=20
> I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Vincent Bemmel
> Alloptic
> http://www.alloptic.com
>=20
> > Dan,
> >
> >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> >
...

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Dan -=20

I'm interested in helping this work go forward.  Me, or someone else =
from my company, will help out.

- Matt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:40 AM
> To: Bemmel, Vincent; hubmib@ietf.org
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> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Up to this point we have two volunteers for participating in=20
> a possible 802.3ah MIB work - one for copper, and one for=20
> EPON. We have also noted the interest expressed by the Chair=20
> of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard Frazier. This is promising, but=20
> still, IMO,  under the threshold of interest required for=20
> starting new work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG.
>=20
> If you and/or your sponsoring company are interested in=20
> participating in this work and/or implementing a future=20
> standard EFM MIB (whatever flavor of EFM) in your products -=20
> please send an e-mail to hubmib@ietf.org.=20
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Dan
>=20
> Dan Romascanu,
> Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bemmel, Vincent [mailto:vincent.bemmel@Alloptic.com]
> > Sent: 30 June, 2003 5:39 AM
> > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> > Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> >=20
> >=20
> > Dan,
> >=20
> > I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include=20
> > seperate MIBs for
> > the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
> >=20
> > I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
> >=20
> > Regards,
> >=20
> > Vincent Bemmel
> > Alloptic
> > http://www.alloptic.com
> >=20
> > > Dan,
> > >
> > >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> > >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> > >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >-Edward Beili
> > > Senior System Engineer
> > > Actelis Networks
> > >
> ...
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>=20

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Dan,

I am interesting in participating in this effort.

I am implementing 802.3ah OAM in our product. The need for a MIB to control
the OAM functionality seems apparent. And it would be great if we can create
a standard MIB.

Regards,

Yonghong Ren
Appian Communications

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?



Up to this point we have two volunteers for participating in a possible
802.3ah MIB work - one for copper, and one for EPON. We have also noted the
interest expressed by the Chair of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard Frazier. This
is promising, but still, IMO,  under the threshold of interest required for
starting new work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG.

If you and/or your sponsoring company are interested in participating in
this work and/or implementing a future standard EFM MIB (whatever flavor of
EFM) in your products - please send an e-mail to hubmib@ietf.org. 

Thanks,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bemmel, Vincent [mailto:vincent.bemmel@Alloptic.com]
> Sent: 30 June, 2003 5:39 AM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> 
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include 
> seperate MIBs for
> the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
> 
> I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vincent Bemmel
> Alloptic
> http://www.alloptic.com
> 
> > Dan,
> >
> >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> >
...

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Up to this point we have two volunteers for participating in a possible =
802.3ah MIB work - one for copper, and one for EPON. We have also noted =
the interest expressed by the Chair of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard =
Frazier. This is promising, but still, IMO,  under the threshold of =
interest required for starting new work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces =
and Hub MIB WG.

If you and/or your sponsoring company are interested in participating in =
this work and/or implementing a future standard EFM MIB (whatever flavor =
of EFM) in your products - please send an e-mail to hubmib@ietf.org.=20

Thanks,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bemmel, Vincent [mailto:vincent.bemmel@Alloptic.com]
> Sent: 30 June, 2003 5:39 AM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
>=20
>=20
> Dan,
>=20
> I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include=20
> seperate MIBs for
> the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
>=20
> I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Vincent Bemmel
> Alloptic
> http://www.alloptic.com
>=20
> > Dan,
> >
> >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> >
...

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Dan,

I am interesting in participating in this effort.

I am implementing 802.3ah OAM in our product. The need for a MIB to control
the OAM functionality seems apparent. And it would be great if we can create
a standard MIB.

Regards,

Yonghong Ren
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Up to this point we have two volunteers for participating in a possible
802.3ah MIB work - one for copper, and one for EPON. We have also noted the
interest expressed by the Chair of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard Frazier. This
is promising, but still, IMO,  under the threshold of interest required for
starting new work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG.

If you and/or your sponsoring company are interested in participating in
this work and/or implementing a future standard EFM MIB (whatever flavor of
EFM) in your products - please send an e-mail to hubmib@ietf.org. 

Thanks,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG



> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 30 June, 2003 5:39 AM
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> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> 
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include 
> seperate MIBs for
> the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
> 
> I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vincent Bemmel
> Alloptic
> http://www.alloptic.com
> 
> > Dan,
> >
> >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> >
...

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Dan -=20

I'm interested in helping this work go forward.  Me, or someone else =
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- Matt

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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bemmel, Vincent [mailto:vincent.bemmel@Alloptic.com]
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> > > Dan,
> > >
> > >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> > >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> > >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >-Edward Beili
> > > Senior System Engineer
> > > Actelis Networks
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-----Original Message-----
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Up to this point we have two volunteers for participating in a possible
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interest expressed by the Chair of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard Frazier. This
is promising, but still, IMO,  under the threshold of interest required for
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Thanks,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> 
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include 
> seperate MIBs for
> the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
> 
> I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vincent Bemmel
> Alloptic
> http://www.alloptic.com
> 
> > Dan,
> >
> >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> >
...

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interest expressed by the Chair of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard Frazier. This
is promising, but still, IMO,  under the threshold of interest required for
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 30 June, 2003 5:39 AM
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> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
> 
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include 
> seperate MIBs for
> the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
> 
> I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vincent Bemmel
> Alloptic
> http://www.alloptic.com
> 
> > Dan,
> >
> >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> >
...

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Dan,

I'm interested in promoting this activity.
Me or someone from my company will participate.

Ariel

Ariel Maislos
Passave Inc.
1557 Jasper Dr.
Sunnyvale, CA 94087
ariel.maislos@passave.com
Tel: (408) 530 0458 Cel: (408) 242 8599
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-3-efm@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-3-efm@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, =
Dan
(Dan)
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 7:40 AM
To: Bemmel, Vincent; hubmib@ietf.org
Cc: stds-802-3-efm@ieee.org


Up to this point we have two volunteers for participating in a possible
802.3ah MIB work - one for copper, and one for EPON. We have also noted =
the
interest expressed by the Chair of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard Frazier. =
This
is promising, but still, IMO,  under the threshold of interest required =
for
starting new work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG.

If you and/or your sponsoring company are interested in participating in
this work and/or implementing a future standard EFM MIB (whatever flavor =
of
EFM) in your products - please send an e-mail to hubmib@ietf.org.=20

Thanks,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bemmel, Vincent [mailto:vincent.bemmel@Alloptic.com]
> Sent: 30 June, 2003 5:39 AM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
>=20
>=20
> Dan,
>=20
> I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include=20
> seperate MIBs for
> the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
>=20
> I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Vincent Bemmel
> Alloptic
> http://www.alloptic.com
>=20
> > Dan,
> >
> >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> >




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Dan,

I'm interested in promoting this activity.
Me or someone from my company will participate.

Ariel

Ariel Maislos
Passave Inc.
1557 Jasper Dr.
Sunnyvale, CA 94087
ariel.maislos@passave.com
Tel: (408) 530 0458 Cel: (408) 242 8599
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-3-efm@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-3-efm@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, =
Dan
(Dan)
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 7:40 AM
To: Bemmel, Vincent; hubmib@ietf.org
Cc: stds-802-3-efm@ieee.org


Up to this point we have two volunteers for participating in a possible
802.3ah MIB work - one for copper, and one for EPON. We have also noted =
the
interest expressed by the Chair of the IEEE 802.3ah - Howard Frazier. =
This
is promising, but still, IMO,  under the threshold of interest required =
for
starting new work in the IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG.

If you and/or your sponsoring company are interested in participating in
this work and/or implementing a future standard EFM MIB (whatever flavor =
of
EFM) in your products - please send an e-mail to hubmib@ietf.org.=20

Thanks,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
Chair, IETF Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB WG



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bemmel, Vincent [mailto:vincent.bemmel@Alloptic.com]
> Sent: 30 June, 2003 5:39 AM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); 'hubmib@ietf.org'
> Subject: RE: [EFM] IEEE 802.3ah MIB?
>=20
>=20
> Dan,
>=20
> I would like to co-edit the EPON MIB. This will include=20
> seperate MIBs for
> the OLT and the ONU with associated services.
>=20
> I hope we can show enough interest to get this work started asap.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Vincent Bemmel
> Alloptic
> http://www.alloptic.com
>=20
> > Dan,
> >
> >I'm interested to become a co-editor of the 802.3ah MIB.
> >My company specializes in Aggregated Copper EFM systems
> >(currently long reach - 2BaseTL).
> >
> >Regards,
> >-Edward Beili
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Actelis Networks
> >




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