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I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our =
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Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with =
one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning =
the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now =
solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this =
delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let =
the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that =
we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter =
schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the =
next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours =
meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and =
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Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules =
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I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our =
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April. =
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with =
one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning =
the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now =
solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this =
delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let =
the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that =
we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter =
schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the =
next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours =
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Internet-Drafts was published, and with one exception (the editor of the =
EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning the reasons of the delay. With =
the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now solved (to the best of my =
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request the editors of the three documents to let the WG know what is =
their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we can plan for WG =
Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules =
accordingly.</FONT></P>

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delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting =
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Hi Dan,
Sorry for the delay with the new version - I was traveling the whole last
month (on business) + waiting for draft D3.3.
I would like to shoot for the end of May with publishing the new version
based on Draft D3.4 which would be ready to be submitted to RevCom I believe
on May 14th.
 
I got some comments from the people on ADSLMIB group, which called for
drastic changes in the MIB
(separation of AvailableStackTable into a new MIB and referencing of the
newest VDSL and SHDSL MIBs instead of defining everything in the
EFM-CU-MIB).
I'm reluctant to go in this direction and would like to hear opinions of the
people on this list.
 
Regards,
-E. 

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From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
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Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April.
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with one
exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning the
reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now solved (to
the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this delay. I would
kindly request the editors of the three documents to let the WG know what is
their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we can plan for WG Last
Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the next
IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours meeting
slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and other
interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me know if
there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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for the delay with the new version - I was traveling the whole last month (on 
business) + waiting for draft D3.3.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
would like to shoot for the end of May with publishing the new version based on 
Draft D3.4 which would be ready to be submitted to RevCom I believe on May 
14th.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I got 
some comments from the people on ADSLMIB group, which called for drastic changes 
in the MIB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>(separation of AvailableStackTable into a new MIB and&nbsp;referencing of 
the newest VDSL and SHDSL MIBs instead of defining everything in the 
EFM-CU-MIB).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>I'm&nbsp;reluctant to go in this direction and would like to hear 
opinions of the people on this list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-E.</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 
  [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 
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  documents in April. Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was 
  published, and with one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was 
  sent concerning the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical 
  issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for 
  this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let 
  the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we 
  can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules 
  accordingly.</FONT></P>
  <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Taking into account the delay, we may need 
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  ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the 
  editors and other interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let 
  me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
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Edward,
=20
Thank you for your message.
=20
I believe that it would be useful if you can address more in details the =
issues raised by the ADSL MIB WG participants, and you would argue why =
you consider the current proposal good enough, and you are 'reluctant' =
to go in the direction of the changes that they are proposing.
=20

Regards,

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
Sent: 06 May, 2004 9:01 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego


Hi Dan,
Sorry for the delay with the new version - I was traveling the whole =
last month (on business) + waiting for draft D3.3.
I would like to shoot for the end of May with publishing the new version =
based on Draft D3.4 which would be ready to be submitted to RevCom I =
believe on May 14th.
=20
I got some comments from the people on ADSLMIB group, which called for =
drastic changes in the MIB
(separation of AvailableStackTable into a new MIB and referencing of the =
newest VDSL and SHDSL MIBs instead of defining everything in the =
EFM-CU-MIB).
I'm reluctant to go in this direction and would like to hear opinions of =
the people on this list.
=20
Regards,
-E.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
To: hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our =
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April. =
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with =
one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning =
the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now =
solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this =
delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let =
the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that =
we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter =
schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the =
next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours =
meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and =
other interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me =
know if there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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<P dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
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  Dan,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
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  would like to shoot for the end of May with publishing the new version =
based=20
  on Draft D3.4 which would be ready to be submitted to RevCom I believe =
on May=20
  14th.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  got some comments from the people on ADSLMIB group, which called for =
drastic=20
  changes in the MIB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
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and&nbsp;referencing=20
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hear=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>-E.</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Romascanu, Dan =
(Dan)=20
    [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 =
01:24=20
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> hubmib@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Hubmib] Status, =
last=20
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text/rtf format -->
    <P dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am very disappointed and =
concerned with=20
    the fact that we missed our schedule for going to Last Call for the =
EFM MIBs=20
    documents in April. Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts =
was=20
    published, and with one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no =
notice was=20
    sent concerning the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah =
technical=20
    issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical =
reason=20
    for this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three =
documents to=20
    let the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, =
so that=20
    we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter=20
    schedules accordingly.</FONT></P>
    <P dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Taking into account the =
delay, we may=20
    need to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting planned for =
August 1-6.=20
    I will ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I =
would=20
    advise the editors and other interested participants to plan for =
this=20
    meeting, please let me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
    <P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks =
and=20
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Hi Dan,
Sorry for the delay with the new version - I was traveling the whole last
month (on business) + waiting for draft D3.3.
I would like to shoot for the end of May with publishing the new version
based on Draft D3.4 which would be ready to be submitted to RevCom I believe
on May 14th.
 
I got some comments from the people on ADSLMIB group, which called for
drastic changes in the MIB
(separation of AvailableStackTable into a new MIB and referencing of the
newest VDSL and SHDSL MIBs instead of defining everything in the
EFM-CU-MIB).
I'm reluctant to go in this direction and would like to hear opinions of the
people on this list.
 
Regards,
-E. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
To: hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April.
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with one
exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning the
reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now solved (to
the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this delay. I would
kindly request the editors of the three documents to let the WG know what is
their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we can plan for WG Last
Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the next
IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours meeting
slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and other
interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me know if
there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sorry 
for the delay with the new version - I was traveling the whole last month (on 
business) + waiting for draft D3.3.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
would like to shoot for the end of May with publishing the new version based on 
Draft D3.4 which would be ready to be submitted to RevCom I believe on May 
14th.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I got 
some comments from the people on ADSLMIB group, which called for drastic changes 
in the MIB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>(separation of AvailableStackTable into a new MIB and&nbsp;referencing of 
the newest VDSL and SHDSL MIBs instead of defining everything in the 
EFM-CU-MIB).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>I'm&nbsp;reluctant to go in this direction and would like to hear 
opinions of the people on this list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=625314817-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-E.</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 
  [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 
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  documents in April. Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was 
  published, and with one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was 
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  issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for 
  this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let 
  the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we 
  can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules 
  accordingly.</FONT></P>
  <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Taking into account the delay, we may need 
  to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will 
  ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the 
  editors and other interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let 
  me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
  <P dir=ltr><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks and 
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Edward,
=20
Thank you for your message.
=20
I believe that it would be useful if you can address more in details the =
issues raised by the ADSL MIB WG participants, and you would argue why =
you consider the current proposal good enough, and you are 'reluctant' =
to go in the direction of the changes that they are proposing.
=20

Regards,

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
Sent: 06 May, 2004 9:01 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego


Hi Dan,
Sorry for the delay with the new version - I was traveling the whole =
last month (on business) + waiting for draft D3.3.
I would like to shoot for the end of May with publishing the new version =
based on Draft D3.4 which would be ready to be submitted to RevCom I =
believe on May 14th.
=20
I got some comments from the people on ADSLMIB group, which called for =
drastic changes in the MIB
(separation of AvailableStackTable into a new MIB and referencing of the =
newest VDSL and SHDSL MIBs instead of defining everything in the =
EFM-CU-MIB).
I'm reluctant to go in this direction and would like to hear opinions of =
the people on this list.
=20
Regards,
-E.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
To: hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our =
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April. =
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with =
one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning =
the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now =
solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this =
delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let =
the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that =
we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter =
schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the =
next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours =
meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and =
other interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me =
know if there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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  Dan,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
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  would like to shoot for the end of May with publishing the new version =
based=20
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on May=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  got some comments from the people on ADSLMIB group, which called for =
drastic=20
  changes in the MIB</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
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and&nbsp;referencing=20
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the=20
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hear=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D625314817-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>-E.</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Romascanu, Dan =
(Dan)=20
    [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 =
01:24=20
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last=20
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    <P dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am very disappointed and =
concerned with=20
    the fact that we missed our schedule for going to Last Call for the =
EFM MIBs=20
    documents in April. Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts =
was=20
    published, and with one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no =
notice was=20
    sent concerning the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah =
technical=20
    issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical =
reason=20
    for this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three =
documents to=20
    let the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, =
so that=20
    we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter=20
    schedules accordingly.</FONT></P>
    <P dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Taking into account the =
delay, we may=20
    need to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting planned for =
August 1-6.=20
    I will ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I =
would=20
    advise the editors and other interested participants to plan for =
this=20
    meeting, please let me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
    <P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks =
and=20
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Dan,
About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the ITU-T SG15/Q4
meeting in Nevada planned for August 2-6.
Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot allocated in the very beginning
(Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this week.
Regards,
-Edward 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
To: hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April.
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with one
exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning the
reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now solved (to
the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this delay. I would
kindly request the editors of the three documents to let the WG know what is
their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we can plan for WG Last
Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the next
IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours meeting
slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and other
interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me know if
there are any issues.

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Dan






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<DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Could 
you please try to have the Hubmib slot&nbsp;allocated in the very beginning 
(Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this week.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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  documents in April. Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was 
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  issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for 
  this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let 
  the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we 
  can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules 
  accordingly.</FONT></P>
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  to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will 
  ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the 
  editors and other interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let 
  me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
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Yes, I can ask for a Monday morning or for a Friday morning meeting =
slot. There are no WG meetings on Sunday. Monday is probably slightly =
better. Are other folks OK with this schedule request?
=20

Regards,

Dan

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 06 May, 2004 9:44 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego


Dan,
About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the ITU-T SG15/Q4 =
meeting in Nevada planned for August 2-6.
Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot allocated in the very =
beginning (Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this week.
Regards,
-Edward=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
To: hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our =
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April. =
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with =
one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning =
the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now =
solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this =
delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let =
the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that =
we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter =
schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the =
next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours =
meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and =
other interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me =
know if there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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was=20
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notice was=20
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reason=20
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documents to=20
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would=20
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Dan,
About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the ITU-T SG15/Q4
meeting in Nevada planned for August 2-6.
Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot allocated in the very beginning
(Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this week.
Regards,
-Edward 

-----Original Message-----
From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
To: hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April.
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with one
exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning the
reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now solved (to
the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this delay. I would
kindly request the editors of the three documents to let the WG know what is
their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we can plan for WG Last
Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the next
IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours meeting
slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and other
interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me know if
there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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<DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>About 
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<DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Could 
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  <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am very disappointed and concerned with 
  the fact that we missed our schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs 
  documents in April. Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was 
  published, and with one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was 
  sent concerning the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical 
  issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for 
  this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let 
  the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we 
  can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules 
  accordingly.</FONT></P>
  <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Taking into account the delay, we may need 
  to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will 
  ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the 
  editors and other interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let 
  me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
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Yes, I can ask for a Monday morning or for a Friday morning meeting =
slot. There are no WG meetings on Sunday. Monday is probably slightly =
better. Are other folks OK with this schedule request?
=20

Regards,

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
Sent: 06 May, 2004 9:44 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego


Dan,
About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the ITU-T SG15/Q4 =
meeting in Nevada planned for August 2-6.
Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot allocated in the very =
beginning (Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this week.
Regards,
-Edward=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
To: hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our =
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April. =
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with =
one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning =
the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now =
solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this =
delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three documents to let =
the WG know what is their schedule for submitting the documents, so that =
we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter =
schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the =
next IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours =
meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and =
other interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me =
know if there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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  size=3D2>About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the =
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  size=3D2>Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot&nbsp;allocated =
in the very=20
  beginning (Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this=20
  week.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D718113718-06052004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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(Dan)=20
    [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 =
01:24=20
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concerned with=20
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EFM MIBs=20
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was=20
    published, and with one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no =
notice was=20
    sent concerning the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah =
technical=20
    issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no technical =
reason=20
    for this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the three =
documents to=20
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so that=20
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    <P dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Taking into account the =
delay, we may=20
    need to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting planned for =
August 1-6.=20
    I will ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I =
would=20
    advise the editors and other interested participants to plan for =
this=20
    meeting, please let me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
    <P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks =
and=20
    Regards,</FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=3D2>Dan</FONT></SPAN></P>
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  a. Working Group or BOF full name with acronym in brackets:

Ethernet Interfaces and hub MIB (hubmib)=20

  b. AREA under which Working Group or BOF appears:

Operations and Management

  c. CONFLICTS you wish to avoid, please be as specific as possible:

rmonmib, sip, sipping, simple, bridge, disman, netconf, avt, midcom

  d. Expected Attendance (figures from the 59th IETF are at the end of =
this message):

20

  e. Special requests (i.e. multicast):

Please schedule as first session on Monday Morning. An ITU meeting is =
scheduled during the same week, and some of the key participants can =
attend only if the meeting is scheduled at this time.

  f. Number of slots:

1

  g. Length of slot:=20
   - 2 1/2 hours



Regards,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
Chair, Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) WG




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<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ethernet Interfaces and hub =
MIB (hubmib) </FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; b. AREA under which =
Working Group or BOF appears:</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Operations and =
Management</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; c. CONFLICTS you wish =
to avoid, please be as specific as possible:</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">rmonmib, sip, sipping, =
simple, bridge, disman, netconf, avt, midcom</FONT></P>

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(figures from the 59th IETF are at the end of this message):</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">20</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; e. Special requests =
(i.e. multicast):</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Please schedule as first =
session on Monday Morning. An ITU meeting is scheduled during the same =
week, and some of the key participants can attend only if the meeting is =
scheduled at this time.</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; f. Number of =
slots:</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1</FONT></P>

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<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp; - 2 1/2 =
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Dan =
Romascanu,</FONT></SPAN></P>

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Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) WG</FONT></SPAN></P>

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  a. Working Group or BOF full name with acronym in brackets:

Ethernet Interfaces and hub MIB (hubmib)=20

  b. AREA under which Working Group or BOF appears:

Operations and Management

  c. CONFLICTS you wish to avoid, please be as specific as possible:

rmonmib, sip, sipping, simple, bridge, disman, netconf, avt, midcom

  d. Expected Attendance (figures from the 59th IETF are at the end of =
this message):

20

  e. Special requests (i.e. multicast):

Please schedule as first session on Monday Morning. An ITU meeting is =
scheduled during the same week, and some of the key participants can =
attend only if the meeting is scheduled at this time.

  f. Number of slots:

1

  g. Length of slot:=20
   - 2 1/2 hours



Regards,

Dan

Dan Romascanu,
Chair, Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) WG




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<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; a. Working Group or =
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<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ethernet Interfaces and hub =
MIB (hubmib) </FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; b. AREA under which =
Working Group or BOF appears:</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Operations and =
Management</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; c. CONFLICTS you wish =
to avoid, please be as specific as possible:</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">rmonmib, sip, sipping, =
simple, bridge, disman, netconf, avt, midcom</FONT></P>

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(figures from the 59th IETF are at the end of this message):</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">20</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; e. Special requests =
(i.e. multicast):</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Please schedule as first =
session on Monday Morning. An ITU meeting is scheduled during the same =
week, and some of the key participants can attend only if the meeting is =
scheduled at this time.</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; f. Number of =
slots:</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1</FONT></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp; g. Length of slot: =
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<P DIR=3DLTR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp; - 2 1/2 =
hours</FONT></P>
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Regards,</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Dan</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Dan =
Romascanu,</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Chair, =
Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) WG</FONT></SPAN></P>

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I also think Monday is better.
-Edward

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Yes, I can ask for a Monday morning or for a Friday morning meeting slot.
There are no WG meetings on Sunday. Monday is probably slightly better. Are
other folks OK with this schedule request?
 

Regards,

Dan

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Dan,
About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the ITU-T SG15/Q4
meeting in Nevada planned for August 2-6.
Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot allocated in the very beginning
(Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this week.
Regards,
-Edward 

-----Original Message-----
From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
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Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April.
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with one
exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning the
reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now solved (to
the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this delay. I would
kindly request the editors of the three documents to let the WG know what is
their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we can plan for WG Last
Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the next
IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours meeting
slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and other
interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me know if
there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 
  [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 09:51 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Edward Beili; hubmib@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Hubmib] 
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  <DIV><SPAN class=628464818-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2><STRONG><EM>Yes, I can ask for a Monday morning or for a Friday morning 
  meeting slot. There are no WG meetings on Sunday. Monday is probably slightly 
  better. Are other folks OK with this schedule 
  request?</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2><STRONG><EM>Regards,</EM></STRONG></FONT></P>
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Edward Beili 
    [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 May, 2004 9:44 
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
    RE: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Dan,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the ITU-T 
    SG15/Q4 meeting in Nevada planned for August 2-6.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot&nbsp;allocated in the 
    very beginning (Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this 
    week.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>-Edward</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 
      [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 
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      <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am very disappointed and concerned 
      with the fact that we missed our schedule for going to Last Call for the 
      EFM MIBs documents in April. Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts 
      was published, and with one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no 
      notice was sent concerning the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah 
      technical issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no 
      technical reason for this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the 
      three documents to let the WG know what is their schedule for submitting 
      the documents, so that we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes 
      in the WG Charter schedules accordingly.</FONT></P>
      <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Taking into account the delay, we may 
      need to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting planned for August 
      1-6. I will ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I 
      would advise the editors and other interested participants to plan for 
      this meeting, please let me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
      <P dir=ltr><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks and 
      Regards,</FONT></SPAN></P>
      <P dir=ltr><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dan</FONT></SPAN></P>
      <P dir=ltr><SPAN lang=he></SPAN></P>
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I also think Monday is better.
-Edward

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 09:51 PM
To: Edward Beili; hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego


Yes, I can ask for a Monday morning or for a Friday morning meeting slot.
There are no WG meetings on Sunday. Monday is probably slightly better. Are
other folks OK with this schedule request?
 

Regards,

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Beili [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]
Sent: 06 May, 2004 9:44 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego


Dan,
About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the ITU-T SG15/Q4
meeting in Nevada planned for August 2-6.
Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot allocated in the very beginning
(Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this week.
Regards,
-Edward 

-----Original Message-----
From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 PM
To: hubmib@ietf.org
Subject: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego



I am very disappointed and concerned with the fact that we missed our
schedule for going to Last Call for the EFM MIBs documents in April.
Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts was published, and with one
exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no notice was sent concerning the
reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah technical issues now solved (to
the best of my knowledge), I see no technical reason for this delay. I would
kindly request the editors of the three documents to let the WG know what is
their schedule for submitting the documents, so that we can plan for WG Last
Call, and ask for changes in the WG Charter schedules accordingly.

Taking into account the delay, we may need to meet in San Diego, at the next
IETF meeting planned for August 1-6. I will ask for a two hours meeting
slot, same as we had in Seoul. I would advise the editors and other
interested participants to plan for this meeting, please let me know if
there are any issues.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan






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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 
  [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 09:51 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Edward Beili; hubmib@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Hubmib] 
  Status, last call, meeting in San Diego<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=628464818-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2><STRONG><EM>Yes, I can ask for a Monday morning or for a Friday morning 
  meeting slot. There are no WG meetings on Sunday. Monday is probably slightly 
  better. Are other folks OK with this schedule 
  request?</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2><STRONG><EM>Regards,</EM></STRONG></FONT></P>
  <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2><STRONG><EM>Dan</EM></STRONG></FONT></P>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Edward Beili 
    [mailto:EdwardB@actelis.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 May, 2004 9:44 
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> Romascanu, Dan (Dan); hubmib@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
    RE: [Hubmib] Status, last call, meeting in San Diego<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Dan,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>About the IETF meeting in August - it coincides with the ITU-T 
    SG15/Q4 meeting in Nevada planned for August 2-6.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Could you please try to have the Hubmib slot&nbsp;allocated in the 
    very beginning (Sunday/Monday) or the very end (Friday) of this 
    week.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=718113718-06052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>-Edward</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
    style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 
      [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 06 May, 2004 01:24 
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> hubmib@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Hubmib] Status, last 
      call, meeting in San Diego<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
      <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am very disappointed and concerned 
      with the fact that we missed our schedule for going to Last Call for the 
      EFM MIBs documents in April. Actually, none of the revised Internet-Drafts 
      was published, and with one exception (the editor of the EPON MIB) no 
      notice was sent concerning the reasons of the delay. With the IEEE 802.3ah 
      technical issues now solved (to the best of my knowledge), I see no 
      technical reason for this delay. I would kindly request the editors of the 
      three documents to let the WG know what is their schedule for submitting 
      the documents, so that we can plan for WG Last Call, and ask for changes 
      in the WG Charter schedules accordingly.</FONT></P>
      <P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Taking into account the delay, we may 
      need to meet in San Diego, at the next IETF meeting planned for August 
      1-6. I will ask for a two hours meeting slot, same as we had in Seoul. I 
      would advise the editors and other interested participants to plan for 
      this meeting, please let me know if there are any issues.</FONT></P>
      <P dir=ltr><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks and 
      Regards,</FONT></SPAN></P>
      <P dir=ltr><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dan</FONT></SPAN></P>
      <P dir=ltr><SPAN lang=he></SPAN></P>
      <P dir=ltr><SPAN 
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