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Hi,

I just checked the I2NSF jabber room (i2nsf@jabber.ietf.org) and it is
functional.

The advice below, from Glen, refers to your jabber account.
I use have accounts with both jabber.org and gmail.com and they seem to work
fine in connecting to jabber.ietf.org.

Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 95all [mailto:95all-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Glen
> Sent: 02 April 2016 18:53
> To: ietf-announce@ietf.org; 95all@ietf.org
> Subject: [95all] Jabber connectivity issues? Workaround here.
> 
> All -
> 
> We are receiving some continued reports of Jabber connectivity issues
> for the IETF Jabber server.  Last month we upgraded the server OS,
> which caused many people to experience connectivity issues for a day
> or two.  We then upgraded the ejabberd server, and that appeared to
> have resolved those issue for most people.  However, with the meeting
> starting up, and more people trying to connect, it seems that some
> people are still having trouble.
> 
> As you might guess, debugging such things is very difficult.  For our
> purposes, Jabber is a server-to-server connection, and we (almost)
> never have access to the remote server which is trying to connect to
> us.  The problem is more frustrating because, as I have discovered,
> the states and maintenance levels of jabber servers globally varies
> widely.  WIDELY.  So debugging these types of problems is next to
> impossible.
> 
> So, instead, I've taken the approach of trying to bracket what DOES
> work.  If you are having trouble connecting to the IETF jabber server
> conference rooms, I have compiled a list of ten public, free, open,
> working Jabber servers, from difference locations around the world,
> and included that list below.  I have personally just now successfully
> created an account on each one of these servers using XMPP only (some
> have XMPP captcha prompts which are easy to pass, some don't) and then
> successfully used that created account to connect to the IETF jabber
> server.
> 
> Please consider using one of these servers to help ensure that you can
> connect to the IETF Jabber rooms.
> 
> igniterealtime.org
> jabber.cz
> jabbim.com
> securejabber.me
> wusz.org
> xmpp.is
> xmpp.js
> xmpp.kz
> xmpp.pro
> xmppcomm.com
> 
> I apologize that some of you are still having problems, and that the
> nature of XMPP makes this difficult to debug... but I hope this list
> of (currently) working Jabber servers helps you connect successfully
> to the IETF meeting jabber rooms.  I've never had so many jabber
> accounts in my life.
> 
> Glen
> Glen Barney
> IT Director
> AMS (IETF Secretariat)
> 
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Interface to Network Security Functions of the IETF.

        Title           : Analysis of Existing work for I2NSF
        Authors         : Susan Hares
                          Bob Moskowitz
                          Dacheng Zhang 
	Filename        : draft-ietf-i2nsf-gap-analysis-01.txt
	Pages           : 45
	Date            : 2016-04-04

Abstract:
   This document analyzes the current state of the art for security
   management devices and security devices technologies in industries
   and the existing IETF work/protocols that are relevant to the
   Interface to Network Security Function (I2NSF).  The I2NSF focus is
   to define data models and interfaces in order to control and monitor
   the physical and virtual aspects of network security functions.


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Linda won't like me if I say "no slides means no presentation", but come on
guys!

Please let us have your slides ASAP.

Thanks,
Adrian


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If you plan to attend I2NSF WG session Thurs (April 7)  at 5:30pm - 7:30pm =
Argentina Local time (4:30pm - 6:30pm  EST ), here is the meetacho dial-in =
information:

https://quebrachob.conf.meetecho.com/q-meetecho/login.jsp?ietf=3Di2nsf


Please also let Adrian and myself know if you plan to attend the remotely.

Cheers,

Linda Dunbar


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Please let Adrian and myself know if you can help out taking notes for Thur=
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</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Linda Dunbar; i2nsf@ietf.org<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">regards,<o:p></o:p></s=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
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ailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Linda Dunbar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xialiang (Frank); i2nsf@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> adrian@olddog.co.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [I2nsf] Need volunteer to take notes for Thurs 5:30-7:3=
0pm I2NSF session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Frank, <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thank you very much. <=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Linda<o:p></o:p></span=
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ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Xialiang=
 (Frank)
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Linda Dunbar; i2nsf@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> adrian@olddog.co.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:
&quot;SimSun&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [I2n=
sf] Need volunteer to take notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Li=
nda,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">I can=
 take notes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">B.R.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Frank=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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nt-family:
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 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
&quot;SimSun&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;SimSun&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"> I2nsf
 [<a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</=
a>] <b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B4=FA=B1=ED
</span></b>Linda Dunbar<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>:</b> 2016<span lang=
=3D"ZH-CN">=C4=EA</span>4<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D4=C2</span>6<span lang=3D"Z=
H-CN">=C8=D5</span> 18:30<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:i2=
nsf@ietf.org">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@o=
lddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a><br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span>:</b> [I2nsf] Need volunteer to =
take notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please let Adrian and myself know if you can help ou=
t taking notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you very much. Really appreciate your help. <o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Linda<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Etherpa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks!=
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bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Linda<o=
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I have a full set of notes that I will send to the list after; was worried
about conflict in the Etherpad. But I'll add some extra input when I'm not
typing :-)

regards,
John

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>
wrote:

> Please add more if you can.
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> Etherpad is ready for you at
> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-95-i2nsf
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
> *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA**:* I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org <i2=
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> *=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4:* 2016=E5=B9=B44=E6=9C=886=E6=97=A5=
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-7:30pm I2NSF
> session
>
>
>
> Please let Adrian and myself know if you can help out taking notes for
> Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session.
>
>
>
> Thank you very much. Really appreciate your help.
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> Linda
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I have a full set of notes that I will send to the li=
st after; was worried about conflict in the Etherpad. But I&#39;ll add some=
 extra input when I&#39;m not typing :-)</div><div><br></div><div>regards,<=
/div><div>John</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Linda Dunbar <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">linda.dunbar@=
huawei.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Please add more=
 if you can. <u></u>
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Linda<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
Etherpad is ready for you at
<a href=3D"http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-95-i2nsf" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-95-i2nsf</a><=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
Thanks!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
Linda<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none non=
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>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:SimSun;=
font-size:10pt">=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA</span></b><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:SimS=
un;font-size:10pt"> I2nsf [<a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 </span></b>Linda Dunbar<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4</span>:</b> 20=
16<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=E5=B9=B4</span>4<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=E6=9C=88</spa=
n>6<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=E6=97=A5</span> 18:30<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA</span>:</b> <a href=3D"=
mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81</span>:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ad=
rian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a><br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98</span>:</b> [I2nsf] Need volunte=
er to take notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please let Adrian and myself know if you can help ou=
t taking notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you very much. Really appreciate your help. <s=
pan class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></=
p><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Linda<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<br>_______________________________________________<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail=
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John:=20

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The etherpad is a shared note-pad.  Do not worry about over-typing.  In =
this way =E2=80=93 we do our best to get notes together.=20

=20

Sue=20

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I have a full set of notes that I will send to the list after; was =
worried about conflict in the Etherpad. But I'll add some extra input =
when I'm not typing :-)

=20

regards,

John

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On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com> =
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Please add more if you can.=20

=20

Linda

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Etherpad is ready for you at =
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Thanks!

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Linda

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D'>John: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The etherpad is a shared note-pad.=C2=A0 Do not worry about =
over-typing.=C2=A0 In this way =E2=80=93 we do our best to get notes =
together. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Sue <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John =
Strassner<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Linda Dunbar<br><b>Cc:</b> i2nsf@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [I2nsf] =
Etherpad for taking notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF =
session<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
have a full set of notes that I will send to the list after; was worried =
about conflict in the Etherpad. But I'll add some extra input when I'm =
not typing :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Apr 7, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Linda Dunbar &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com" =
target=3D"_blank">linda.dunbar@huawei.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Please add more if you can. =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Linda</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Etherpad is ready for you at <a =
href=3D"http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-95-i2nsf" =
target=3D"_blank">http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-95-i2n=
sf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Linda</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
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style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor =
currentColor'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'> I2nsf [<a =
href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</a>] </span><b><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>Linda =
Dunbar<br></span><b><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'> 2016</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E5=B9=B4</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>4</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E6=9C=88</span><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E6=97=A5</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'> =
18:30<br></span><b><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br></span><b><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" =
target=3D"_blank">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a><br></span><b><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>=
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'> [I2nsf] Need volunteer to =
take notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF =
session</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Please let =
Adrian and myself know if you can help out taking notes for Thurs =
5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you =
very much. Really appreciate your help. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#888888'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#888888'>Linda<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#888888'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>______________________________________=
_________<br>I2nsf mailing list<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:I2nsf@ietf.org">I2nsf@ietf.org</a><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf</a><o:p></o=
:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br clear=3Dall><br>-- =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></htm=
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I know, but it blew up in OpenStack, and I remain paranoid (didn't you see
Adrian's mother glaring at me :-)))  )

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

> John:
>
>
>
> The etherpad is a shared note-pad.  Do not worry about over-typing.  In
> this way =E2=80=93 we do our best to get notes together.
>
>
>
> Sue
>
>
>
> *From:* I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *John
> Strassner
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:44 PM
> *To:* Linda Dunbar
> *Cc:* i2nsf@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [I2nsf] Etherpad for taking notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm
> I2NSF session
>
>
>
> I have a full set of notes that I will send to the list after; was worrie=
d
> about conflict in the Etherpad. But I'll add some extra input when I'm no=
t
> typing :-)
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>
> wrote:
>
> Please add more if you can.
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> Etherpad is ready for you at
> http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-95-i2nsf
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
> *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA**:* I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org <i2=
nsf-bounces@ietf.org>] *=E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8
> *Linda Dunbar
> *=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4**:* 2016=E5=B9=B44=E6=9C=886=E6=97=
=A5 18:30
> *=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA**:* i2nsf@ietf.org
> *=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81**:* adrian@olddog.co.uk
> *=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98**:* [I2nsf] Need volunteer to take notes for Thurs 5:=
30-7:30pm I2NSF
> session
>
>
>
> Please let Adrian and myself know if you can help out taking notes for
> Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session.
>
>
>
> Thank you very much. Really appreciate your help.
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I know, but it blew up in OpenStack, and I remain paranoid=
 (didn&#39;t you see Adrian&#39;s mother glaring at me :-)))=C2=A0 )</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 7, 201=
6 at 2:49 PM, Susan Hares <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shares@nd=
zh.com" target=3D"_blank">shares@ndzh.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue"><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">John: <u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(3=
1,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:=
11pt">The etherpad is a shared note-pad.=C2=A0 Do not worry about over-typi=
ng.=C2=A0 In this way =E2=80=93 we do our best to get notes together. <u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,1=
25);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-=
size:11pt">Sue <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;fon=
t-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt"> I2nsf [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:i2n=
sf-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</a>] <b>On Be=
half Of </b>John Strassner<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:44 PM=
<br><b>To:</b> Linda Dunbar<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org"=
 target=3D"_blank">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [I2nsf] Etherp=
ad for taking notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">I have a full set of notes that I will send to the list after; wa=
s worried about conflict in the Etherpad. But I&#39;ll add some extra input=
 when I&#39;m not typing :-)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">regards,<u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">John<u></u><u></u></p></div=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Linda Dunbar &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">linda.dunbar@huawei.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Please add more if you can. </span><u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)=
">Linda</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Etherpad is ready for you a=
t <a href=3D"http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-95-i2nsf" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-95-i2nsf</a=
></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=
=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks!</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rg=
b(31,73,125)">Linda</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>=
<div style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none non=
e none solid;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor blue;paddi=
ng:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,1=
25);font-size:10.5pt">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div style=3D"bor=
der-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:curre=
ntColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN"=
 style=3D"font-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt">=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA</s=
pan></b><b><span style=3D"font-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt">:</span></b><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt"> I2nsf [<a href=3D"mailto:i=
2nsf-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</a>]=
 </span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt"=
>=E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 </span></b><span style=3D"font-family:SimSun;font-size:=
10pt">Linda Dunbar<br></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:S=
imSun;font-size:10pt">=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4</span></b><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt">:</span></b><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt"> 2016</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D=
"font-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt">=E5=B9=B4</span><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:SimSun;font-size:10pt">4</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-famil=
y:SimSun;font-size:10pt">=E6=9C=88</span><span style=3D"font-family:SimSun;=
font-size:10pt">6</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:SimSun;fo=
nt-size:10pt">=E6=97=A5</span><span style=3D"font-family:SimSun;font-size:1=
0pt"> 18:30<br></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:SimSun;f=
ont-size:10pt">=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA</span></b><b><span style=3D"font=
-family:SimSun;font-size:10pt">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:SimSu=
n;font-size:10pt"> <a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">i2ns=
f@ietf.org</a><br></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:SimSu=
n;font-size:10pt">=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:SimSun;font-size:10pt">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:SimSun;font=
-size:10pt"> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adria=
n@olddog.co.uk</a><br></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:S=
imSun;font-size:10pt">=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:SimSun;font-size:10pt">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:SimSun;=
font-size:10pt"> [I2nsf] Need volunteer to take notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm=
 I2NSF session</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please let Adrian and myself=
 know if you can help out taking notes for Thurs 5:30-7:30pm I2NSF session.=
 <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you very much. Really appreciate your help. <u></u><u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(136,136,136)">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb=
(136,136,136)">Linda<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(136,136,136)">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>=
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br>_____________=
__________________________________<br>I2nsf mailing list<br><a href=3D"mail=
to:I2nsf@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">I2nsf@ietf.org</a><br><a href=3D"https=
://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.=
org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">regards,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">John<u><=
/u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clea=
r=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div>regards,</div><div=
>John</div></div>
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Hopefully these could be used as fodder for producing final minutes.

-- 
regards,
John


Introduction from the Chairs

Provided a summary of where the WG standards with respect to our
immediate milestones. Concerned about being late, and keeping up
(or increasing) our momentum. We must concentrate on getting the
framework and terminology statement ready for adoption by the WG;
this is overdue. Worried about four upcoming milestones (extensions
to protocols, existing secure communication mechanisms, and info
model in June, and data models in July).

We want to do milestones IN ORDER (with the exception of the info
model). Must contribute to previous milestones BEFORE we work
on new ones.

--- Working Group Drafts ---

Problem Statement and Use Cases
Sue Hares,   draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-00

Sue recommends shipping it, because no comments have been received
Wants people to say ON THE MAILING LIST they have read and
understood it.

Adrian asked about the Management Considerations section.
Dan Romascanu said that he thought that this is OK.
John Strassner offered to do a thorough review and send to the mailing list.

Gap Analysis
Sue Hares,   draft-ietf-i2nsf-gap-analysis-00

Thanks to Myo Zarny's comments. Helped get the terminology document
going. The framework draft is now aligned to the terminology document,
but wants WG to agree with this.

Dan Romascanu would like data modeling and data models to be added
to this draft. Sue said OK. However, she is concerned about the current
turmoil in opstate.

John Messenger asked why 802.1ax and 802.1ar were not covered; this
will be added in. Bob, John, and Dan will review for Sue.

--- Drafts for Immediate Milestones ---

Terminology
John Strassner,  draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology-00

Purpose is to enable precise and consistent terminology to be used,
and that I2NSF terminology does not clash with accepted applicable
terminology from relevant domains. The document was created by
scanning existing WG documents looking for key terms.

Status: security and policy terminology are reasonably complete for
I2NSF purposes. Included terms to facilitate implementation; Sue
met with SACM terminology editor (Henk) and they came up with a
preliminary list of terms that need alignment. John gave some
examples, but the conclusion is that both SACM and I2NSF could
benefit from such co-working and alignment.

While related, two separate documents (one from SACM and one
from I2NSF) will continue to exist. We will work together to ensure
that they do not conflict

Framework
Diego Lopez,  draft-merged-i2nsf-framework-05

Reviewed high-level architecture. Diego prefers "Developer Facing
Interface" to "Vendor Facing Interface".

Major changes:
   - Clarified packet- and flow-based processing
   - Changes Subject-Object-Action-Function to ECA
     - defined policy rule, event, condition, action, and how each of
       these are used in I2NSF
     - Removed references to PCIM (doubts about flaws associated
       with PCIM)
   - clarified that we want to standardize the form and function of
     profiles and signature files while concurrently enabling
     vendor-specific elaborations of each
   - added capability layer interface details
   - added vendor-facing interface details
   - Updated to use terms in Terminology Draft
   - added security requirements

Additional discussion:
     - There are three types of interfaces: configuration, signaling, and
       rule provisioning
     - Diego showed a nice mapping of how different functions (e.g.,
       how context and constraints) are mapped to ECA
     - Brief discussion about the "v" in vNSF. Starting to lean towards
       NOT explicitly separating vNSF from pNSF (physical NSF).
       However, it was noted that some problems that are unique to
       vNSFs can arise (e.g., restart, having policies follow an NSF,
        having multiple vNSFs collectively enforce policies)
     - We have covered controller-NSF; should we consider client-
       controller as well? Should we elaborate on differences between
       rules for the capability vs. service layers? What about capability
       negotiation?
    - Question about security controller. Diego clarified that this was
      NOT the typical "reactive" controller. It needs to be smarter, to
      translate capabilities and constraints to NSFs. Question from
      someone about "is this a controller" or not. John replied that
      it MAY be more instructive to think of this as a continuum - it is
      called "controller" because of the real-time nature of the decision,
      but it could be construed as management.

Preliminary poll for adoption for these two drafts
- Chairs
   draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology-00
   draft-merged-i2nsf-framework-05

No one disagrees; therefore, the poll will go to the list

--- Interfaces and Information Models ---

Capability Interface Information Model
Frank Xia,    draft-xia-i2nsf-capability-interface-im-04

This draft is about how to monitor what is going on in the I2NSF
architecture, and is more about designing the information model for
the capability interface for NSF. It will realize the security policy
provisioning rules that govern how packets are treated by the I2NSF
framework. This decouples the network security controller from
vendor-specific NSFs, and avoids unnecessary constraints on
using the functionality of NSFs.

There are three categories of security functions:
    - Network security control (inspecting and processing packets and
      flows using ECA)
    - Content security control (e.g., detect and remediate against
      malicious contents)
    - attack mitigation control (detect and remediate against different
      types of network attacks); needs a stadnardized interface

Showed a functional logic diagram of how ECA works. When an Event
fires, this triggers the evaluation of the Condition. If the Condition is
then true, then the Action MAY be executed. Note that each clause
may in general be a complex Boolean expression.

Discussed the various tables and grammar.

Next steps:
    solicit comments, and add more detail on capabilities, constraints,
    and how to extend the associated information model.

User-group-based Security Policy for Service Layer
John Strassner,   draft-you-i2nsf-user-group-based-policy-01

Motivation for this construct was described. Key point: this is an
extensible identifier to identify user groups. It will be generated by
policies under operator control, and takes the form of roles plus
additional criteria. This provides operators flexibility in making
policy decisions by decoupling what identifies a user from a
static representation of a user in the network.

The UAPC functional entities were described, along with a sample
implementation.


Information Model for Security Policy Exchange
Luyuan Fang,   draft-fang-i2nsf-inter-cloud-ddos-mitigation-api

We currently lack an efficient, automated, standard way to exchange
security information between providers. The problem is at the boundary
between providers. If this point is compromised, then both providers,
and especially inter-cloud operations, are also compromised.

Note that this is much harder to handle. It is very difficult to identify
the
attacker as well as the status of a provider's partners; there is a distinct
lack of automated tools to exchange attack-related data, as well as to
support coordinated remediation.

We need a standardized set of inter-provider APIs for network security
policy exchange, so that providers can create and deploy their tools on
top of this standard framework. This in turn requires an information
model. Four types of information: mitigation capabilities, mitigation
request and response, monitoring and reporting, and knowledge sharing.
Want to try and define knowledge sharing objects.

John said that an info model is vital, but in order to define semantics,
you MAY need ontologies and/or some formal type of logic (such as the
ISO Common Logic (24707) work).


Information Model for Monitoring NSFs
DaCheng,   draft-zhang-i2nsf-info-model-monitoring-00

This draft specifies the information model for the monitoring part of
the capability interface. Want to concentrate on alarm and report
messages. The model will include common information that should be
included in all alarms and reports (e.g., NSF name, vendor name,
timestamps, type of NSF, NSF model,... ); preliminary definitions of
each were shown.

--- Other Work ---

Remote Attestation Procedures for Virtualized NSFs
Diego Lopez,   draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation

Showed a diagram explaining what the principles of attestation are.
Create a trusted channel, then users and the security controller
mutually authenticate to establish a trusted connection with the security
controller, which then makes the attestation available to the user.
Next version will include a deeper discussion on procedures,

Dan: why isn't this merged into the framework?
Diego: it could be; at the least, a reference should be there. However,
this draft contains additional information that goes beyond the scope of
the framework.


SDN-Based Security Functions
Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong,  draft-jeong-i2nsf-sdn-security-services-04

Described updates from -03 to -04.
   - Added new use case (VoIP/VoLTE) and two new requirements.

Described an OpenFlow-based architecture for a VoIP IPOS based
on ODL. The experiment in general follows the layers described in the
framework draft.  Next steps: provisioining of the service- and
capability layers, and provide more details about the prototypes.


I2NSF Data Flow Requirements & Secure Session Layer Services
Sue Hares,   draft-hares-i2nsf-mgtflow-reqs
Working on management data flow. Thought about different types of
attacks, such as TCP-SYN and ICMPO attacks. What could I2RS do to
help, and what could simplify the protocol?

DOTS and Mile have a set of management traffic requirements. These
place a set of important requirements on the flow of management data.
I2RS has some complementary requirements. A potential solution (in
draft-hares-i2nsf-ssls) describes placing a function above the many
transports being used so that a management entity can choose the
**best** transport to use.

Security alerts over the first MILE
Robert Moskowitz,     draft-moskowitz-firstmile

No standard mechanism exists to inform NSF about the policies
for dealing with security alerts in the monitoring system. Also, no
mechanism exists for NSF to report these alerts/events to the
monitoring system.

Note that this is different than DOTS (DDoS alerting/mitigation) and
MILE (inter-admin defense coordination). There are many other
attacks (e.g., Ping of death, TCP SYN, port scan, ...). In addition,
we need to be able to report events when the network itself is
under attack.

We need a pub-sub reporting system and a registration of
defense system monitoring entities.

Sue stated that the pub-sub work is being done in I2RS.

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l minutes.<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><div>regards,</div><div>John</d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Introduction from the Chairs</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Provided a summary of where the WG standards with respect =
to our</div><div>immediate milestones. Concerned about being late, and keep=
ing up</div><div>(or increasing) our momentum. We must concentrate on getti=
ng the</div><div>framework and terminology statement ready for adoption by =
the WG;</div><div>this is overdue. Worried about four upcoming milestones (=
extensions</div><div>to protocols, existing secure communication mechanisms=
, and info</div><div>model in June, and data models in July).</div><div><br=
></div><div>We want to do milestones IN ORDER (with the exception of the in=
fo</div><div>model). Must contribute to previous milestones BEFORE we work<=
/div><div>on new ones.<br></div><div><br></div><div>--- Working Group Draft=
s ---</div><div><br></div><div>Problem Statement and Use Cases<br>Sue Hares=
,=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-00</div><div><br>Sue r=
ecommends shipping it, because no comments have been received<br>Wants peop=
le to say ON THE MAILING LIST they have read and</div><div>understood it.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Adrian asked about the Management Considerations se=
ction.</div><div>Dan Romascanu said that he thought that this is OK.</div><=
div>John Strassner offered to do a thorough review and send to the mailing =
list.</div><div><br></div><div>Gap Analysis<br>Sue Hares,=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft=
-ietf-i2nsf-gap-analysis-00<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks to Myo Zarn=
y&#39;s comments. Helped get the terminology document<br>going. The framewo=
rk draft is now aligned to the terminology document,</div><div>but wants WG=
 to agree with this.</div><div><br>Dan Romascanu would like data modeling a=
nd data models to be added<br>to this draft. Sue said OK. However, she is c=
oncerned about the current</div><div>turmoil in opstate.</div><div><br>John=
 Messenger asked why 802.1ax and 802.1ar were not covered; this<br>will be =
added in. Bob, John, and Dan will review for Sue.</div><div><br></div><div>=
--- Drafts for Immediate Milestones ---</div><div><br></div><div>Terminolog=
y<br>John Strassner,=C2=A0 draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology-00</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Purpose is to enable precise and consistent terminology to be use=
d,</div><div>and that I2NSF terminology does not clash with=C2=A0accepted a=
pplicable</div><div>terminology from relevant domains. The document was cre=
ated by</div><div>scanning existing=C2=A0WG documents=C2=A0looking for key =
terms.</div><div><br></div><div>Status: security and policy terminology are=
 reasonably complete for</div><div>I2NSF purposes. Included terms to facili=
tate implementation; Sue</div><div>met with SACM terminology editor (Henk) =
and they came up with a</div><div>preliminary list of terms that need align=
ment. John gave some</div><div>examples, but the conclusion is that=C2=A0bo=
th SACM and I2NSF could</div><div>benefit from such co-working and alignmen=
t.</div><div><br>While related, two separate documents (one from SACM and o=
ne</div><div>from I2NSF) will continue to exist. We will work together to e=
nsure</div><div>that they do not conflict</div><div><br></div><div>Framewor=
k<br>Diego Lopez,=C2=A0 draft-merged-i2nsf-framework-05</div><div><br>Revie=
wed high-level architecture. Diego prefers &quot;Developer Facing</div><div=
>Interface&quot; to &quot;Vendor Facing Interface&quot;.</div><div><br>Majo=
r changes:<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Clarified packet- and flow-based processing<br=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Changes Subject-Object-Action-Function to ECA<br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - defined policy rule, event, condition, action, and how ea=
ch of<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 these are used in I2NSF<br>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Removed references to PCIM (doubts about flaws a=
ssociated</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 with PCIM)<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 - clarified that we want to standardize the form and function of<=
br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 profiles and signature files while concurrently=
 enabling=C2=A0<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 vendor-specific elaborations of=
 each<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - added capability layer interface details<br>=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 - added vendor-facing interface details<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Updated to=
 use terms in Terminology Draft<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - added security requiremen=
ts</div><div><br>Additional discussion:<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - There=
 are three types of interfaces: configuration, signaling, and<br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 rule provisioning<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=
 Diego showed a nice mapping of how different functions (e.g.,<br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 how context and constraints) are mapped to ECA<=
br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Brief discussion about the &quot;v&quot; in v=
NSF. Starting to lean towards<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 NOT e=
xplicitly separating vNSF from pNSF (physical NSF).</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 However, it was noted that some problems that are =
unique to</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 vNSFs can arise (e=
.g., restart, having policies follow an NSF,<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 having multiple vNSFs collectively enforce policies)<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - We have covered controller-NSF; should we consider =
client-</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 controller as well? =
Should we elaborate on differences between=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 </div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 rules for the capabilit=
y vs. service layers? What about capability</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0negotiation?<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Question about securit=
y controller. Diego clarified that this was<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 NOT the typical &quot;reactive&quot; controller. It needs to be smarter=
, to<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 translate capabilities and constrain=
ts to NSFs. Question from<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 someone about &=
quot;is this a controller&quot; or not. John replied that<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 it MAY be more instructive to think of this as a continu=
um - it is</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 called &quot;controller=
&quot; because of the real-time nature of the decision,</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 but it could be construed as management.<br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 <br>Preliminary poll for adoption for these two drafts<br>- Chairs<br>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology-00<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-merged-=
i2nsf-framework-05</div><div><br></div><div>No one disagrees; therefore, th=
e poll will go to the list</div><div><br></div><div>--- Interfaces and Info=
rmation Models ---</div><div><br></div><div>Capability Interface Informatio=
n Model<br>Frank Xia,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-xia-i2nsf-capability-interfac=
e-im-04<br></div><div><br></div><div>This draft is about how to monitor wha=
t is going on in the I2NSF<br>architecture, and is more about designing the=
 information model for<br>the capability interface for NSF. It will realize=
 the security policy</div><div>provisioning rules that govern how packets a=
re treated by the I2NSF</div><div>framework. This decouples the network sec=
urity controller from</div><div>vendor-specific NSFs, and avoids unnecessar=
y constraints on<br>using the functionality of NSFs.<br></div><div><br></di=
v><div>There are three categories of security functions:<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 - Network security control (inspecting and processing packets and<br>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 flows using ECA)<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Con=
tent security control (e.g., detect and remediate against<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 malicious contents)<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - attack mitig=
ation control (detect and remediate against different<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 types of network attacks); needs a stadnardized interface</div=
><div><br></div><div>Showed a functional logic diagram of how ECA works. Wh=
en an Event<br>fires, this triggers the evaluation of the Condition. If the=
 Condition is</div><div>then true, then the Action MAY be executed. Note th=
at each clause</div><div>may in general be a complex Boolean expression.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Discussed the various tables and grammar.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Next steps:<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 solicit comments, and add =
more detail on capabilities, constraints,<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and how to =
extend the associated information model.</div><div><br></div><div>User-grou=
p-based Security Policy for Service Layer<br>John Strassner,=C2=A0=C2=A0 dr=
aft-you-i2nsf-user-group-based-policy-01</div><div><br>Motivation for this =
construct was described. Key point: this is an</div><div>extensible identif=
ier to identify user groups. It will be generated by</div><div>policies und=
er operator control, and takes the form of roles plus</div><div>additional =
criteria. This provides operators flexibility in making</div><div>policy de=
cisions by decoupling what identifies a user from a</div><div>static repres=
entation of a user in the network.</div><div><br></div><div>The UAPC functi=
onal entities were described, along with a sample</div><div>implementation.=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Information Model for Security Pol=
icy Exchange<br>Luyuan Fang,=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-fang-i2nsf-inter-cloud-ddos-=
mitigation-api</div><div><br>We currently lack an efficient, automated, sta=
ndard way to exchange</div><div>security information between providers. The=
 problem is at the boundary</div><div>between providers. If this point is c=
ompromised, then both providers,</div><div>and especially inter-cloud opera=
tions, are also compromised.</div><div><br></div><div>Note that this is muc=
h harder to handle. It is very difficult to identify the</div><div>attacker=
 as well as the status of a provider&#39;s partners; there is a distinct</d=
iv><div>lack of automated tools to exchange attack-related data, as well as=
 to</div><div>support coordinated remediation.</div><div><br></div><div>We =
need a standardized set of inter-provider APIs for network security<br>poli=
cy exchange, so that providers can create and deploy their tools on<br>top =
of this standard framework. This in turn requires an information</div><div>=
model. Four types of information: mitigation capabilities, mitigation</div>=
<div>request and response, monitoring and reporting, and knowledge sharing.=
</div><div>Want to try and define knowledge sharing objects.<br>=C2=A0 <br>=
John said that an info model is vital, but in order to define semantics,<br=
>you MAY need ontologies and/or some formal type of logic (such as the<br>I=
SO Common Logic (24707) work).</div><div><br><br>Information Model for Moni=
toring NSFs<br>DaCheng,=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-zhang-i2nsf-info-model-monitoring=
-00</div><div><br></div><div>This draft specifies the information model for=
 the monitoring part of<br>the capability interface. Want to concentrate on=
 alarm and report<br>messages. The model will include common information th=
at should be<br>included in all alarms and reports (e.g., NSF name, vendor =
name,<br>timestamps, type of NSF, NSF model,... ); preliminary definitions =
of</div><div>each were shown.</div><div><br></div><div>--- Other Work ---</=
div><div><br></div><div>Remote Attestation Procedures for Virtualized NSFs<=
br>Diego Lopez,=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation</div><div><=
br></div><div>Showed a diagram explaining what the principles of attestatio=
n are.<br>Create a trusted channel, then users and the security controller<=
/div><div>mutually authenticate to establish a trusted connection with the =
security</div><div>controller, which then makes the attestation available t=
o the user.</div><div>Next version will include a deeper discussion on proc=
edures,<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<br>Dan: why isn&#39;t this merged into the fr=
amework?</div><div>Diego: it could be; at the least, a reference should be =
there. However,</div><div>this draft contains additional information that g=
oes beyond the scope of</div><div>the framework.</div><div><br></div><div><=
br></div><div>SDN-Based Security Functions<br>Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong,=C2=A0 d=
raft-jeong-i2nsf-sdn-security-services-04</div><div><br>Described updates f=
rom -03 to -04.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Added new use case (VoIP/VoLTE) an=
d two new requirements.</div><div><br></div><div>Described an OpenFlow-base=
d architecture for a VoIP IPOS based<br>on ODL. The experiment in general f=
ollows the layers described in the<br>framework draft.=C2=A0 Next steps: pr=
ovisioining of the service- and<br>capability layers, and provide more deta=
ils about the prototypes.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I2NSF Dat=
a Flow Requirements &amp; Secure Session Layer Services<br>Sue Hares,=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 draft-hares-i2nsf-mgtflow-reqs<br></div><div>Working on management d=
ata flow. Thought about different types of<br>attacks, such as TCP-SYN and =
ICMPO attacks. What could I2RS do to<br>help, and what could simplify the p=
rotocol?</div><div><br></div><div>DOTS and Mile have a set of management tr=
affic requirements. These<br>place a set of important requirements on the f=
low of management data.<br>I2RS has some complementary requirements. A pote=
ntial solution (in<br>draft-hares-i2nsf-ssls) describes placing a function =
above the many<br>transports being used so that a management entity can cho=
ose the<br>**best** transport to use.</div><div><br></div><div>Security ale=
rts over the first MILE<br>Robert Moskowitz,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-=
moskowitz-firstmile</div><div><br>No standard mechanism exists to inform NS=
F about the policies</div><div>for=C2=A0dealing with security alerts in the=
 monitoring system. Also, no</div><div>mechanism exists for NSF to report t=
hese alerts/events to the</div><div>monitoring system.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Note that this is different than DOTS (DDoS alerting/mitigation) and</=
div><div>MILE (inter-admin defense coordination). There are many other</div=
><div>attacks (e.g., Ping of death,=C2=A0TCP SYN, port scan, ...). In addit=
ion,</div><div>we need to=C2=A0be able to report events when the network it=
self is</div><div>under attack.</div><div><br></div><div>We need a pub-sub =
reporting system and a registration of</div><div>defense system monitoring=
=C2=A0entities.</div><div><br>Sue stated that the pub-sub work is being don=
e in I2RS.</div></div>
</div>

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Hi WG,

In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology drafts.

Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed that
no-one at the meeting objected.

So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/ at revision -02
and
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/ at revision -05

Please respond with a "yes" or "no" qualified as much as possible (for example:
"I have read this draft, and think it is a good foundation", "I have read this
draft and have reservations, but think we can work through them on the mailing
list", "I think this draft is crazy and don't believe the WG can use it", etc.,
etc.)

You do not have to accept or reject the drafts as a pair.

Authors!
Please be aware that by being named as authors on the I-Ds you have agreed to
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this, please contact the chairs immediately.

Thanks,
Adrian


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I have read both drafts and I believe that they are a good foundation for t=
he work in I2NSF and support their adoption.=20

As I said in the meeting at IETF 95 I believe that the Remote Attestation f=
or vNSFs (draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation) should also be included in t=
he framework, and I would like to see it taken into consideration.=20

Regards,

Dan




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> Hi WG,
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> In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology
> drafts.
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> Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
> documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed
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> So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:
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Thanks to Sue Hares, John Strassner and Frank Xia for taking the minutes du=
ring I2NSF WG session.
Here are the combined meeting minutes:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/minutes/minutes-95-i2nsf

If you see anything missing or incorrect (names, or content), please let us=
 know so we can make the change.

It was great seeing some familiar faces and many more new faces at the I2NS=
F WG session even though it was the last session on Thursday.
Hope you all had a safe trip back home.

Cheers,

Linda

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I2NSF:

 

<author hat on> 

draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology -  I know of no IPR related to the
terminology.   I feel the terminology is a good start for the terminology
drafts.  It will be improved by aligning with SACM terminology draft.

<author hat off> 

 

The draft-merged-i2nsf-framework-05.txt is a good place to start.   I agree
with Dan that remote attestation (draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation)
should be added.   

 

In our email discussion before IETF 96,  I would like to see the group
policy (draft-you-i2nsf-user-group-based-policy-01) and SDN centralized
control of security devices via I2NSF
(draft-jeong-i2nsf-sdn-security-services-04) discussed enough so we can
determine how these drafts related to the framework.l 

 

Sue Hares 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:10 AM
To: i2nsf@ietf.org
Subject: [I2nsf] Poll for adoption of two new WG drafts

 

Hi WG,

 

In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology drafts.

 

Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed that
no-one at the meeting objected.

 

So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:

 

 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/>
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/ at revision
-02 and  <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/>
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/ at revision
-05

 

Please respond with a "yes" or "no" qualified as much as possible (for
example:

"I have read this draft, and think it is a good foundation", "I have read
this draft and have reservations, but think we can work through them on the
mailing list", "I think this draft is crazy and don't believe the WG can use
it", etc.,

etc.)

 

You do not have to accept or reject the drafts as a pair.

 

Authors!

Please be aware that by being named as authors on the I-Ds you have agreed
to abide by the IETF's IPR policy. You are required to disclose any IPR that
you may reasonably know about "as soon as possible". If you have a problem
with this, please contact the chairs immediately.

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

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aligning with SACM terminology draft.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&lt;author hat off&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>The =
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&nbsp;I agree with Dan that remote attestation =
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<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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of security devices via I2NSF =
(draft-jeong-i2nsf-sdn-security-services-04) discussed enough so we can =
determine how these drafts related to the framework.l <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Sue =
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class=3DMsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: I2nsf =
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[I2nsf] Poll for adoption of two new WG drafts</p><p =
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WG,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the =
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poll of the room showed that no-one at the meeting =
objected.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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Sorry, my reply got stuck.

As a co-author of both drafts, I feel that they each represent a good
starting point for our work, and feel that both should be adopted.
I will close the loop with Henk (SACM terminology) soon.

Also, as a co-author, I know of no IPR related to either draft.

regards,
John

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
wrote:

> I have read both drafts and I believe that they are a good foundation for
> the work in I2NSF and support their adoption.
>
> As I said in the meeting at IETF 95 I believe that the Remote Attestation
> for vNSFs (draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation) should also be included in
> the framework, and I would like to see it taken into consideration.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:10 PM
> > To: i2nsf@ietf.org
> > Subject: [I2nsf] Poll for adoption of two new WG drafts
> >
> > Hi WG,
> >
> > In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology
> > drafts.
> >
> > Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
> > documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed
> > that no-one at the meeting objected.
> >
> > So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> I2nsf mailing list
> I2nsf@ietf.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sorry, my reply got stuck.</div><div><br></div><div>A=
s a co-author of both drafts, I feel that they each represent a good starti=
ng point for our work, and feel that both should be adopted.</div><div>I wi=
ll close the loop with Henk (SACM terminology) soon.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Also, as a co-author, I know of no IPR related to either draft.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>regards,</div><div>John</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Romasca=
nu, Dan (Dan) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@avaya.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">dromasca@avaya.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">I have read both drafts and I believe that they are a good=
 foundation for the work in I2NSF and support their adoption.<br>
<br>
As I said in the meeting at IETF 95 I believe that the Remote Attestation f=
or vNSFs (draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation) should also be included in t=
he framework, and I would like to see it taken into consideration.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: I2nsf [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org">i2nsf-bo=
unces@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel<br>
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:10 PM<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt; Subject: [I2nsf] Poll for adoption of two new WG drafts<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi WG,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology<b=
r>
&gt; drafts.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think th=
ese<br>
&gt; documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showe=
d<br>
&gt; that no-one at the meeting objected.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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<a href=3D"mailto:I2nsf@ietf.org">I2nsf@ietf.org</a><br>
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el=3D"noreferrer">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf</a><br>
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nature"><div>regards,</div><div>John</div></div>
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I think the two drafts are good enough for adoption.


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>Hi WG,
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>In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology
>drafts.
>
>Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
>documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed
>that no-one at the meeting objected.
>
>So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/ at
>revision -02 and=20
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/ at
>revision -05
>
>Please respond with a "yes" or "no" qualified as much as possible (for
>example:
>"I have read this draft, and think it is a good foundation", "I have read
>this draft and have reservations, but think we can work through them on
>the mailing list", "I think this draft is crazy and don't believe the WG
>can use it", etc.,
>etc.)
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>You do not have to accept or reject the drafts as a pair.
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>Authors!
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Hi,

As co-author of both drafts I support the adoption.

Be goode,

On 13 Apr 2016, at 16:10 , Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk<mailto:adrian=
@olddog.co.uk>> wrote:

Hi WG,

In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology drafts=
.

Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed tha=
t
no-one at the meeting objected.

So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/ at revision=
 -02
and
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/ at revision =
-05

Please respond with a "yes" or "no" qualified as much as possible (for exam=
ple:
"I have read this draft, and think it is a good foundation", "I have read t=
his
draft and have reservations, but think we can work through them on the mail=
ing
list", "I think this draft is crazy and don't believe the WG can use it", e=
tc.,
etc.)

You do not have to accept or reject the drafts as a pair.

Authors!
Please be aware that by being named as authors on the I-Ds you have agreed =
to
abide by the IETF's IPR policy. You are required to disclose any IPR that y=
ou
may reasonably know about "as soon as possible". If you have a problem with
this, please contact the chairs immediately.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these<b=
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<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/"=
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I support the framework draft to be progressed as a WG item.=20

I don't have an objection to the terminology draft to be adopted as well.

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> Hi WG,
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> In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology
> drafts.
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> Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
> documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed
> that
> no-one at the meeting objected.
>=20
> So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/ at
> revision -02
> and
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/ at revisio=
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> -05
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> Please respond with a "yes" or "no" qualified as much as possible (for
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> this
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> mailing
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I support the adoption of the Framework and Terminology drafts.
Both documents are very important for the WG, and they are in good shape an=
d well discussed to adopt now.

Thanks,
Luyuan

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Subject: [I2nsf] Poll for adoption of two new WG drafts

Hi WG,

In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology drafts=
.

Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these d=
ocuments are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed that=
 no-one at the meeting objected.

So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3a%2f%2fdatatrac=
ker.ietf.org%2fdoc%2fdraft-hares-i2nsf-terminology%2f&data=3D01%7c01%7clufa=
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Please respond with a "yes" or "no" qualified as much as possible (for exam=
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his draft and have reservations, but think we can work through them on the =
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Hi Diego,

I think that this is a very good approach. I'd be happy to help.

regards,
John

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:34 PM, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <
diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My intention is to include in the framework a (generalized, not limited t=
o
> virtualized environments) discussion on the threats and the mitigation
> provided by attestation in the framework, together with recommendations o=
n
> attestation procedures. Going into a complete discussion of attestation i=
n
> the framework draft seems going too far to me, and I=E2=80=99d prefer to =
have it in
> a separate document. That document (the current draft-pastor-=E2=80=A6) c=
ould be
> merged in the future with others on specific I2NSF procedures.
>
> Does it sound like an acceptable plan?
>
> Be goode,
>
> On 13 Apr 2016, at 16:26 , Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have read both drafts and I believe that they are a good foundation for
> the work in I2NSF and support their adoption.
>
> As I said in the meeting at IETF 95 I believe that the Remote Attestation
> for vNSFs (draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation) should also be included i=
n
> the framework, and I would like to see it taken into consideration.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org <i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org>] On
> Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
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> Subject: [I2nsf] Poll for adoption of two new WG drafts
>
> Hi WG,
>
> In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology
> drafts.
>
> Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
> documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed
> that no-one at the meeting objected.
>
> So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Diego,</div><div><br></div><div>I think that this =
is a very good approach. I&#39;d be happy to help.</div><div><br></div><div=
>regards,</div><div>John</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:34 PM, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com" target=
=3D"_blank">diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">



<div style=3D"-ms-word-wrap: break-word;">
Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My intention is to include in the framework a (generalized, not limite=
d to virtualized environments) discussion on the threats and the mitigation=
 provided by attestation in the framework, together with recommendations on=
 attestation procedures.
 Going into a complete discussion of attestation in the framework draft see=
ms going too far to me, and I=E2=80=99d prefer to have it in a separate doc=
ument. That document (the current draft-pastor-=E2=80=A6) could be merged i=
n the future with others on specific I2NSF procedures.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Does it sound like an acceptable plan?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Be goode,</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On 13 Apr 2016, at 16:26 , Romascanu, Dan (Dan) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
dromasca@avaya.com" target=3D"_blank">dromasca@avaya.com</a>&gt; wrote:</di=
v>
<br>
<div>I have read both drafts and I believe that they are a good foundation =
for the work in I2NSF and support their adoption.
<br>
<br>
As I said in the meeting at IETF 95 I believe that the Remote Attestation f=
or vNSFs (draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation) should also be included in t=
he framework, and I would like to see it taken into consideration.
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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drafts.<br>
<br>
Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these<b=
r>
documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed<br>
that no-one at the meeting objected.<br>
<br>
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I support the adoption of following draft
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/

Thanks to authors for wonderful job.

I have not been able to go thru the framework document completely yet and
would reply separately.

Regards.

Sumandra

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi WG,
>
> In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology
> drafts.
>
> Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
> documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed
> that
> no-one at the meeting objected.
>
> So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/ at
> revision -02
> and
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/ at
> revision -05
>
> Please respond with a "yes" or "no" qualified as much as possible (for
> example:
> "I have read this draft, and think it is a good foundation", "I have read
> this
> draft and have reservations, but think we can work through them on the
> mailing
> list", "I think this draft is crazy and don't believe the WG can use it",
> etc.,
> etc.)
>
> You do not have to accept or reject the drafts as a pair.
>
> Authors!
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I support the adoption of following draft=C2=A0<div><a hre=
f=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-size:12.8px">https://datatr=
acker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/</a><br></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Thanks to authors for wonderful job.</div><div><br></div><div>I hav=
e not been able to go thru the framework document completely yet and would =
reply separately.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Sumandra</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Adrian Farrel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adrian@olddog.co.uk=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi WG,<br>
<br>
In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology drafts=
.<br>
<br>
Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these<b=
r>
documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed tha=
t<br>
no-one at the meeting objected.<br>
<br>
So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf=
t-hares-i2nsf-terminology/</a> at revision -02<br>
and<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-merged-i2nsf-framework/</a> at revision -05<br>
<br>
Please respond with a &quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&quot; qualified as much a=
s possible (for example:<br>
&quot;I have read this draft, and think it is a good foundation&quot;, &quo=
t;I have read this<br>
draft and have reservations, but think we can work through them on the mail=
ing<br>
list&quot;, &quot;I think this draft is crazy and don&#39;t believe the WG =
can use it&quot;, etc.,<br>
etc.)<br>
<br>
You do not have to accept or reject the drafts as a pair.<br>
<br>
Authors!<br>
Please be aware that by being named as authors on the I-Ds you have agreed =
to<br>
abide by the IETF&#39;s IPR policy. You are required to disclose any IPR th=
at you<br>
may reasonably know about &quot;as soon as possible&quot;. If you have a pr=
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<br>
Thanks,<br>
Adrian<br>
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Diego and John:=20

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This seems like a very good approach to provide the threats and =
mitigation in the framework, and leave the specifics for another =
document.=20

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Sue=20

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From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Strassner
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 4:35 PM
To: DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA; John Strassner
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; Romascanu, Dan (Dan); adrian@olddog.co.uk
Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Poll for adoption of two new WG drafts

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Hi Diego,

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I think that this is a very good approach. I'd be happy to help.

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regards,

John

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On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:34 PM, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA =
<diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com> wrote:

Hi,=20

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My intention is to include in the framework a (generalized, not limited =
to virtualized environments) discussion on the threats and the =
mitigation provided by attestation in the framework, together with =
recommendations on attestation procedures. Going into a complete =
discussion of attestation in the framework draft seems going too far to =
me, and I=E2=80=99d prefer to have it in a separate document. That =
document (the current draft-pastor-=E2=80=A6) could be merged in the =
future with others on specific I2NSF procedures.

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Does it sound like an acceptable plan?

=20

Be goode,

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On 13 Apr 2016, at 16:26 , Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com> =
wrote:

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I have read both drafts and I believe that they are a good foundation =
for the work in I2NSF and support their adoption.=20

As I said in the meeting at IETF 95 I believe that the Remote =
Attestation for vNSFs (draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation) should also =
be included in the framework, and I would like to see it taken into =
consideration.=20

Regards,

Dan







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Hi WG,

In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology
drafts.

Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think =
these
documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed
that no-one at the meeting objected.

So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:


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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John =
Strassner<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2016 4:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA; John Strassner<br><b>Cc:</b> i2nsf@ietf.org; =
Romascanu, Dan (Dan); adrian@olddog.co.uk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [I2nsf] =
Poll for adoption of two new WG drafts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi =
Diego,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
think that this is a very good approach. I'd be happy to =
help.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, =
Apr 19, 2016 at 11:34 PM, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com" =
target=3D"_blank">diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi, =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My intention is to include in the framework a =
(generalized, not limited to virtualized environments) discussion on the =
threats and the mitigation provided by attestation in the framework, =
together with recommendations on attestation procedures. Going into a =
complete discussion of attestation in the framework draft seems going =
too far to me, and I=E2=80=99d prefer to have it in a separate document. =
That document (the current draft-pastor-=E2=80=A6) could be merged in =
the future with others on specific I2NSF =
procedures.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Does it sound like an acceptable =
plan?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Be goode,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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read both drafts and I believe that they are a good foundation for the =
work in I2NSF and support their adoption. <br><br>As I said in the =
meeting at IETF 95 I believe that the Remote Attestation for vNSFs =
(draft-pastor-i2nsf-vnsf-attestation) should also be included in the =
framework, and I would like to see it taken into consideration. =
<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Dan<br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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had a discussion of the Framework and =
Terminology<br>drafts.<br><br>Although the authors have various changes =
planned, the chairs think these<br>documents are ready for adoption into =
the WG. A poll of the room showed<br>that no-one at the meeting =
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Hi i2nsf WG,
The shapes of them look good to me.
I support the adoption of these two drafts as WG drafts.

I believe that they will be a good starting point for
the development of our work items in I2NSF.

My team in Korea (i.e., Sungkyunkwan University, ETRI, and Korea Telecom)
are
implementing a prototype of I2NSF framework in SDN networks:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jeong-i2nsf-sdn-security-services-04

Through our implementation, I felt that these two documents were quite
useful.

I hope our i2nsf WG will be moving forward through the adoption of them.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi WG,
>
> In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology
> drafts.
>
> Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these
> documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed
> that
> no-one at the meeting objected.
>
> So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/ at
> revision -02
> and
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/ at
> revision -05
>
> Please respond with a "yes" or "no" qualified as much as possible (for
> example:
> "I have read this draft, and think it is a good foundation", "I have read
> this
> draft and have reservations, but think we can work through them on the
> mailing
> list", "I think this draft is crazy and don't believe the WG can use it",
> etc.,
> etc.)
>
> You do not have to accept or reject the drafts as a pair.
>
> Authors!
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> abide by the IETF's IPR policy. You are required to disclose any IPR that
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> may reasonably know about "as soon as possible". If you have a problem with
> this, please contact the chairs immediately.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi i2nsf WG,<div><div>The shapes of them look good to me.<=
/div></div><div>I support the adoption of these two drafts as WG drafts.<br=
></div><div><br></div><div>I believe that they will be a good starting poin=
t for=C2=A0</div><div>the development of our work items in I2NSF.=C2=A0</di=
v><div><br></div><div>My team in Korea (i.e., Sungkyunkwan University, ETRI=
, and Korea Telecom) are</div><div>implementing a prototype of I2NSF framew=
ork in SDN networks:</div><div><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft=
-jeong-i2nsf-sdn-security-services-04">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-je=
ong-i2nsf-sdn-security-services-04</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Through=
 our implementation, I felt that these two documents were quite useful.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>I hope our i2nsf WG will be moving forward through th=
e adoption of them.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Best Regards,</div><div>Paul</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Adrian Farrel <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blan=
k">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">Hi WG,<br>
<br>
In Buenos Aires we had a discussion of the Framework and Terminology drafts=
.<br>
<br>
Although the authors have various changes planned, the chairs think these<b=
r>
documents are ready for adoption into the WG. A poll of the room showed tha=
t<br>
no-one at the meeting objected.<br>
<br>
So this starts a formal, two-week poll for adoption of:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology/"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf=
t-hares-i2nsf-terminology/</a> at revision -02<br>
and<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-merged-i2nsf-framework/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-merged-i2nsf-framework/</a> at revision -05<br>
<br>
Please respond with a &quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&quot; qualified as much a=
s possible (for example:<br>
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can use it&quot;, etc.,<br>
etc.)<br>
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abide by the IETF&#39;s IPR policy. You are required to disclose any IPR th=
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Hi,

Thanks for the positive reviews and comments.

Authors, please post the I-Ds with new names and dates, but without substantive
change to the content. Then we can get on with our work as a WG to advance the
documents.

draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology-02 as draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-00

draft-merged-i2nsf-framework-05 as draft-ietf-i2nsf-framework-00

Many thanks,

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Working Group Name: Interface to Network Security Functions
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Session Requester: Linda Dunbar

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  2 Hours
Number of Attendees: 60
Conflicts to Avoid: 
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Hi all,

I will process the terminology draft today. If no one else does the
framework draft, I'll process that by the weekend.

best regards,
John

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the positive reviews and comments.
>
> Authors, please post the I-Ds with new names and dates, but without
> substantive
> change to the content. Then we can get on with our work as a WG to advance
> the
> documents.
>
> draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology-02 as draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-00
>
> draft-merged-i2nsf-framework-05 as draft-ietf-i2nsf-framework-00
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Adrian
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I will process the t=
erminology draft today. If no one else does the framework draft, I&#39;ll p=
rocess that by the weekend.</div><div><br></div><div>best regards,</div><di=
v>John</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Adrian Farrel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the positive reviews and comments.<br>
<br>
Authors, please post the I-Ds with new names and dates, but without substan=
tive<br>
change to the content. Then we can get on with our work as a WG to advance =
the<br>
documents.<br>
<br>
draft-hares-i2nsf-terminology-02 as draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-00<br>
<br>
draft-merged-i2nsf-framework-05 as draft-ietf-i2nsf-framework-00<br>
<br>
Many thanks,<br>
<br>
Adrian<br>
<br>
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nature"><div>regards,</div><div>John</div></div>
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