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Paul:

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I will create a version -08 with these changes. =20

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Sue=20

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From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mr. Jaehoon =
Paul Jeong
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:32 PM
To: Susan Hares
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; Adrian Farrel; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong; Linda Dunbar
Subject: Re: [I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt

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Sue,

I checked the revision 07 with the suggested changes as follows:

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-----------------------------------

[page 4]=20

OLD: I2NSF: Interface to Network Security Functions.

NEW: I2NSF: Interface to Network Security Functions

//delete a period '.'

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OLD: SDN: Software Defined Networks

NEW: SDN: Software-Defined Networking

//replace "Networks" with "Networking"

=20

[page 8]

OLD: Distributed Denial of services

NEW: Distributed Denial of Service

//replace "services" with "Service". 'S' of "Service" is capital.

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[page 9]

OLD: e.g. encryption algorithms, key deriation

NEW: e.g., encryption algorithms, key derivation

//add a comma ',' after "e.g." and replace "deriation" with "derivation"

=20

[page 15]

OLD: e.g. enact/revoke

NEW: e.g., enact/revoke

//add a comma ',' after "e.g."

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[page 16]

OLD: mobile user,and

NEW: mobile user, and

//insert a blank between ',' and "and"

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OLD: use cases #7

NEW: use case #7

//replace "cases" with "case"

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OLD: (B2B)communications.

NEW: (B2B) communications.

//insert a blank between "(B2B)" and "communications"

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[page 17]

OLD: access to (or isolation from) to

NEW: access to (or isolation from)

//delete the second redundant "to"

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[page 19]

OLD: a set timeframes

NEW: a set of timeframes

//insert "of" between "set" and "timeframes"

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OLD: virtual machines (VMs)

NEW: VMs

//delete "virtual machines" because "VMs" is defined in Section 3.1.3

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[page 22]

OLD: Industry(PCI)

NEW: Industry (PCI)

//insert a blank between "Industry" and "(PCI)"

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OLD: [HIPPA]

NEW: [HIPAA]

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[page 24]

OLD: [HIPPA]

NEW: [HIPAA]

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[page 25]

OLD: [NFVUC] ETSI GS NFV 002 V1.1.1, , "ETSI NFV Group Specification, =
Network Functions Virtualization (NFV) Use Cases", June 2014.

NEW: [NFVUC] ETSI GS NFV 001 V1.1.1, , "ETSI NFV Group Specification, =
Network Functions Virtualisation (NFV) Use Cases", October 2013.

//replace "002" with "001", replace "Virtualization" with =
"Virtualisation", and replace "June 2014" with "October 2013"=20

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[page 26]

OLD: Diego R. Lopex

NEW: Diego R. Lopez

//replace "Lopex" with "Lopez"

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-----------------------------------

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Also, I attach a PDF file to have the changes.

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Thanks for your hard work.

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Best Regards,

Paul

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

Linda and Adrian:

I believe captures all the edits and fixes all IDNITS in the draft.    =
One
warning exists on line 872 for a tab that turns to 8 characters.  I =
cannot
find the tab in the xml it is complaining about.   I've sent an email to
Adrian that indicates the resolution of all comments (Adrian's,  David =
Qi,
and Paul Jeong's).  I appreciate the detailed review by each of these
people.  Since these are public comments to accept or not-to accept, I =
have
published the edited version.  I rejected a few of Adrian's and Paul =
Jeong's
edits - so I would like to ask Adrian, Paul, and my co-authors to verify =
you
are good with all differences.

I do need Adrian to respond on 2 requested changes.   Therefore, there =
will
be a version-08 on Monday.

Cheers,
Sue


-----Original Message-----
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internet-drafts@ietf.org
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:38 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org
Subject: [I2nsf] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Interface to Network Security Functions =
of
the IETF.

        Title           : I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases
        Authors         : Susan Hares
                          Diego R. Lopex
                          Myo Zarny
                          Christian Jacquenet
                          Rakesh Kumar
                          Jaehoon Paul Jeong
        Filename        : draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt
        Pages           : 27
        Date            : 2017-01-28

Abstract:
   This document describes the problem statement for Interface to
   Network Security Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use
   cases.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-case=
s-07


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of =
submission
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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
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Department of Software
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Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,  <mailto:pauljeong@skku.edu> =
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I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mr. Jaehoon =
Paul Jeong<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:32 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Susan Hares<br><b>Cc:</b> i2nsf@ietf.org; Adrian =
Farrel; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong; Linda Dunbar<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sue,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I checked =
the revision 07 with the suggested changes as =
follows:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-------------------------------------------------------=
-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>[page =
4]&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: I2NSF: =
Interface to Network Security Functions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: I2NSF: Interface to Network Security =
Functions<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>//delete a =
period '.'<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: SDN: Software Defined =
Networks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: SDN: =
Software-Defined Networking<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;Networks&quot; with =
&quot;Networking&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 8]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: Distributed Denial of =
services<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: Distributed =
Denial of Service<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;services&quot; with =
&quot;Service&quot;. 'S' of &quot;Service&quot; is =
capital.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 9]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: e.g. encryption algorithms, key =
deriation<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: e.g., =
encryption algorithms, key derivation<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//add a comma ',' after &quot;e.g.&quot; and replace =
&quot;deriation&quot; with =
&quot;derivation&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 15]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: e.g. enact/revoke<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: e.g., enact/revoke<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//add a comma ',' after =
&quot;e.g.&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 16]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: mobile user,and<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: mobile user, and<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//insert a blank between ',' and =
&quot;and&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: use cases #7<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: use case #7<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;cases&quot; with =
&quot;case&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: (B2B)communications.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: (B2B) communications.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//insert a blank between &quot;(B2B)&quot; and =
&quot;communications&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 17]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: access to (or isolation from) =
to<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: access to (or =
isolation from)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>//delete =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 19]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: a set timeframes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: a set of timeframes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//insert &quot;of&quot; between &quot;set&quot; and =
&quot;timeframes&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: virtual machines =
(VMs)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: =
VMs<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>//delete &quot;virtual =
machines&quot; because &quot;VMs&quot; is defined in Section =
3.1.3<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 22]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: Industry(PCI)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: Industry (PCI)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 24]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: [HIPPA]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 25]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: [NFVUC] ETSI GS NFV 002 V1.1.1, , &quot;ETSI NFV =
Group Specification, Network Functions Virtualization (NFV) Use =
Cases&quot;, June 2014.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: [NFVUC] ETSI GS NFV 001 V1.1.1, , &quot;ETSI NFV =
Group Specification, Network Functions Virtualisation (NFV) Use =
Cases&quot;, October 2013.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;002&quot; with &quot;001&quot;, =
replace &quot;Virtualization&quot; with &quot;Virtualisation&quot;, and =
replace &quot;June 2014&quot; with &quot;October =
2013&quot;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 26]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: Diego R. Lopex<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: Diego R. Lopez<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;Lopex&quot; with =
&quot;Lopez&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-------------------------------------------------------=
-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Also, I attach a PDF file to have the =
changes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for your hard work.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Paul<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, =
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Susan Hares &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com" =
target=3D"_blank">shares@ndzh.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Linda and Adrian:<br><br>I believe captures all the =
edits and fixes all IDNITS in the draft.&nbsp; &nbsp; One<br>warning =
exists on line 872 for a tab that turns to 8 characters.&nbsp; I =
cannot<br>find the tab in the xml it is complaining about.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;I've sent an email to<br>Adrian that indicates the resolution of =
all comments (Adrian's,&nbsp; David Qi,<br>and Paul Jeong's).&nbsp; I =
appreciate the detailed review by each of these<br>people.&nbsp; Since =
these are public comments to accept or not-to accept, I =
have<br>published the edited version.&nbsp; I rejected a few of Adrian's =
and Paul Jeong's<br>edits - so I would like to ask Adrian, Paul, and my =
co-authors to verify you<br>are good with all differences.<br><br>I do =
need Adrian to respond on 2 requested changes.&nbsp; &nbsp;Therefore, =
there will<br>be a version-08 on =
Monday.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Sue<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: I2nsf =
[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org">i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On =
Behalf Of<br><a =
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Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:38 PM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org">i-d-announce@ietf.org</a><br>Cc: =
<a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br>Subject: [I2nsf] =
I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt<br><br><br>A =
New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line =
Internet-Drafts<br>directories.<br>This draft is a work item of the =
Interface to Network Security Functions of<br>the IETF.<br><br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Title&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: =
I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
Authors&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: Susan Hares<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Diego R. Lopex<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Myo Zarny<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; Christian Jacquenet<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Rakesh =
Kumar<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Jaehoon Paul Jeong<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Filename&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Pages&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 27<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
2017-01-28<br><br>Abstract:<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;This document describes the =
problem statement for Interface to<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;Network Security =
Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;cases.<br><br><br>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft =
is:<br><a =
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-cases/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-probl=
em-and-use-cases/</a><br><br>There's also a htmlized version available =
at:<br><a =
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s-07" =
target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-an=
d-use-cases-07</a><br><br>A diff from the previous version is available =
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use-cases-07" =
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oblem-and-use-cases-07</a><br><br><br>Please note that it may take a =
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available by anonymous FTP at:<br><a =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.<br>Assistant =
Professor<br>Department of Software<br>Sungkyunkwan =
University<br>Office: +82-31-299-4957<br>Email: <a =
href=3D"mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com" =
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                          Diego R. Lopez
                          Myo Zarny
                          Christian Jacquenet
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                          Jaehoon Paul Jeong
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This draft resolves all outstanding requests for change to version =
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is in version-09.txt.

Sue=20

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Adrian and Linda: 

I believe version -09.txt completes all the editorial changes I was
requested to make by the WG, AD evaluation, or co-authors.  After Paul
confirms my editorial changes, I believe the next step is any further AD
evaluation. 

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                          Rakesh Kumar
                          Jaehoon Paul Jeong
	Filename        : draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt
	Pages           : 27
	Date            : 2017-02-02

Abstract:
   This document describes the problem statement for Interface to
   Network Security Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use
   cases.


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Paul:

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Thank you for the quick response.  I=E2=80=99ve created a version =
-08.txt with just these changes.  Version -09 adds URL references to =
version -08.txt=20

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Sue Hares=20

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From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 10:01 AM
To: 'Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong'
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; 'Adrian Farrel'; 'Linda Dunbar'
Subject: Re: [I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt

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Paul:

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I will create a version -08 with these changes. =20

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Sue=20

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From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mr. Jaehoon =
Paul Jeong
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:32 PM
To: Susan Hares
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; Adrian Farrel; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong; Linda Dunbar
Subject: Re: [I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt

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Sue,

I checked the revision 07 with the suggested changes as follows:

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[page 4]=20

OLD: I2NSF: Interface to Network Security Functions.

NEW: I2NSF: Interface to Network Security Functions

//delete a period '.'

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OLD: SDN: Software Defined Networks

NEW: SDN: Software-Defined Networking

//replace "Networks" with "Networking"

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[page 8]

OLD: Distributed Denial of services

NEW: Distributed Denial of Service

//replace "services" with "Service". 'S' of "Service" is capital.

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[page 9]

OLD: e.g. encryption algorithms, key deriation

NEW: e.g., encryption algorithms, key derivation

//add a comma ',' after "e.g." and replace "deriation" with "derivation"

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[page 15]

OLD: e.g. enact/revoke

NEW: e.g., enact/revoke

//add a comma ',' after "e.g."

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[page 16]

OLD: mobile user,and

NEW: mobile user, and

//insert a blank between ',' and "and"

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OLD: use cases #7

NEW: use case #7

//replace "cases" with "case"

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OLD: (B2B)communications.

NEW: (B2B) communications.

//insert a blank between "(B2B)" and "communications"

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[page 17]

OLD: access to (or isolation from) to

NEW: access to (or isolation from)

//delete the second redundant "to"

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[page 19]

OLD: a set timeframes

NEW: a set of timeframes

//insert "of" between "set" and "timeframes"

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OLD: virtual machines (VMs)

NEW: VMs

//delete "virtual machines" because "VMs" is defined in Section 3.1.3

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[page 22]

OLD: Industry(PCI)

NEW: Industry (PCI)

//insert a blank between "Industry" and "(PCI)"

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OLD: [HIPPA]

NEW: [HIPAA]

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[page 24]

OLD: [HIPPA]

NEW: [HIPAA]

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[page 25]

OLD: [NFVUC] ETSI GS NFV 002 V1.1.1, , "ETSI NFV Group Specification, =
Network Functions Virtualization (NFV) Use Cases", June 2014.

NEW: [NFVUC] ETSI GS NFV 001 V1.1.1, , "ETSI NFV Group Specification, =
Network Functions Virtualisation (NFV) Use Cases", October 2013.

//replace "002" with "001", replace "Virtualization" with =
"Virtualisation", and replace "June 2014" with "October 2013"=20

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[page 26]

OLD: Diego R. Lopex

NEW: Diego R. Lopez

//replace "Lopex" with "Lopez"

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Also, I attach a PDF file to have the changes.

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Thanks for your hard work.

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Best Regards,

Paul

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

Linda and Adrian:

I believe captures all the edits and fixes all IDNITS in the draft.    =
One
warning exists on line 872 for a tab that turns to 8 characters.  I =
cannot
find the tab in the xml it is complaining about.   I've sent an email to
Adrian that indicates the resolution of all comments (Adrian's,  David =
Qi,
and Paul Jeong's).  I appreciate the detailed review by each of these
people.  Since these are public comments to accept or not-to accept, I =
have
published the edited version.  I rejected a few of Adrian's and Paul =
Jeong's
edits - so I would like to ask Adrian, Paul, and my co-authors to verify =
you
are good with all differences.

I do need Adrian to respond on 2 requested changes.   Therefore, there =
will
be a version-08 on Monday.

Cheers,
Sue


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internet-drafts@ietf.org
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:38 PM
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Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org
Subject: [I2nsf] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Interface to Network Security Functions =
of
the IETF.

        Title           : I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases
        Authors         : Susan Hares
                          Diego R. Lopex
                          Myo Zarny
                          Christian Jacquenet
                          Rakesh Kumar
                          Jaehoon Paul Jeong
        Filename        : draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt
        Pages           : 27
        Date            : 2017-01-28

Abstract:
   This document describes the problem statement for Interface to
   Network Security Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use
   cases.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
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class=3DMsoNormal>Paul:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thank you =
for the quick response.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve created a version -08.txt =
with just these changes.=C2=A0 Version -09 adds URL references to =
version -08.txt <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sue Hares =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan =
Hares<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 1, 2017 10:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong'<br><b>Cc:</b> i2nsf@ietf.org; 'Adrian Farrel'; =
'Linda Dunbar'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
</div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I will create a version -08 with these changes.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
I2nsf [<a =
href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</a>]=
 <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
January 31, 2017 8:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Susan Hares<br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org">i2nsf@ietf.org</a>; Adrian Farrel; Mr. =
Jaehoon Paul Jeong; Linda Dunbar<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [I2nsf] FW: I-D =
Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sue,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I checked =
the revision 07 with the suggested changes as =
follows:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-------------------------------------------------------=
-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>[page =
4]&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: I2NSF: =
Interface to Network Security Functions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: I2NSF: Interface to Network Security =
Functions<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>//delete a =
period '.'<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: SDN: Software Defined =
Networks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: SDN: =
Software-Defined Networking<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;Networks&quot; with =
&quot;Networking&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 8]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: Distributed Denial of =
services<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: Distributed =
Denial of Service<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;services&quot; with =
&quot;Service&quot;. 'S' of &quot;Service&quot; is =
capital.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 9]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: e.g. encryption algorithms, key =
deriation<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: e.g., =
encryption algorithms, key derivation<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//add a comma ',' after &quot;e.g.&quot; and replace =
&quot;deriation&quot; with =
&quot;derivation&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 15]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: e.g. enact/revoke<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: e.g., enact/revoke<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//add a comma ',' after =
&quot;e.g.&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 16]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: mobile user,and<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: mobile user, and<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//insert a blank between ',' and =
&quot;and&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: use cases #7<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: use case #7<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;cases&quot; with =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: (B2B)communications.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: (B2B) communications.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//insert a blank between &quot;(B2B)&quot; and =
&quot;communications&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 17]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: access to (or isolation from) =
to<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: access to (or =
isolation from)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>//delete =
the second redundant &quot;to&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 19]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: a set timeframes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: a set of timeframes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//insert &quot;of&quot; between &quot;set&quot; and =
&quot;timeframes&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: virtual machines =
(VMs)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: =
VMs<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>//delete &quot;virtual =
machines&quot; because &quot;VMs&quot; is defined in Section =
3.1.3<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 22]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: Industry(PCI)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: Industry (PCI)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//insert a blank between &quot;Industry&quot; and =
&quot;(PCI)&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: [HIPPA]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: [HIPAA]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 24]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: [HIPPA]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: [HIPAA]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 25]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: [NFVUC] ETSI GS NFV 002 V1.1.1, , &quot;ETSI NFV =
Group Specification, Network Functions Virtualization (NFV) Use =
Cases&quot;, June 2014.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: [NFVUC] ETSI GS NFV 001 V1.1.1, , &quot;ETSI NFV =
Group Specification, Network Functions Virtualisation (NFV) Use =
Cases&quot;, October 2013.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;002&quot; with &quot;001&quot;, =
replace &quot;Virtualization&quot; with &quot;Virtualisation&quot;, and =
replace &quot;June 2014&quot; with &quot;October =
2013&quot;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[page 26]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>OLD: Diego R. Lopex<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>NEW: Diego R. Lopez<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>//replace &quot;Lopex&quot; with =
&quot;Lopez&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-------------------------------------------------------=
-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Also, I attach a PDF file to have the =
changes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for your hard work.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Paul<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, =
Jan 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Susan Hares &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com" =
target=3D"_blank">shares@ndzh.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Linda and Adrian:<br><br>I believe captures all the =
edits and fixes all IDNITS in the draft.&nbsp; &nbsp; One<br>warning =
exists on line 872 for a tab that turns to 8 characters.&nbsp; I =
cannot<br>find the tab in the xml it is complaining about.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;I've sent an email to<br>Adrian that indicates the resolution of =
all comments (Adrian's,&nbsp; David Qi,<br>and Paul Jeong's).&nbsp; I =
appreciate the detailed review by each of these<br>people.&nbsp; Since =
these are public comments to accept or not-to accept, I =
have<br>published the edited version.&nbsp; I rejected a few of Adrian's =
and Paul Jeong's<br>edits - so I would like to ask Adrian, Paul, and my =
co-authors to verify you<br>are good with all differences.<br><br>I do =
need Adrian to respond on 2 requested changes.&nbsp; &nbsp;Therefore, =
there will<br>be a version-08 on =
Monday.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Sue<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: I2nsf =
[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org">i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On =
Behalf Of<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a><br>=
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:38 PM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org">i-d-announce@ietf.org</a><br>Cc: =
<a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br>Subject: [I2nsf] =
I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt<br><br><br>A =
New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line =
Internet-Drafts<br>directories.<br>This draft is a work item of the =
Interface to Network Security Functions of<br>the IETF.<br><br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Title&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: =
I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
Authors&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: Susan Hares<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Diego R. Lopex<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Myo Zarny<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; Christian Jacquenet<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Rakesh =
Kumar<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Jaehoon Paul Jeong<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Filename&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-07.txt<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Pages&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 27<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
2017-01-28<br><br>Abstract:<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;This document describes the =
problem statement for Interface to<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;Network Security =
Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;cases.<br><br><br>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft =
is:<br><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use=
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target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-probl=
em-and-use-cases/</a><br><br>There's also a htmlized version available =
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target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-an=
d-use-cases-07</a><br><br>A diff from the previous version is available =
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use-cases-07" =
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couple of minutes from the time of submission<br>until the htmlized =
version and diff are available at <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" =
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Dear all,
apologies for the delay, my reply didn't go through and then I was on
travel.
Replies inline, look for <jcs>..<.jcs>


Can I2NSF controller also be the =E2=80=9CConsumers of NSF data and service=
s=E2=80=9D?

<jcs>

Yes. Recall that we went with "consumer" instead of "client" or "end-user"
because of this reason. The above definition reflects that.


However, in reviewing other dependent definitions, I found that there is a
typo in the definition of Consumer, which may have been why you were
confused. The old definition says, in part:


      A Consumer is a Role that is assigned to an I2NSF
      Component that represents the needs of a user of I2NSF services.

      A consumer can send/receive information to/from another I2NSF
      Component...


It should say:


      A Consumer is a Role that is assigned to an I2NSF
      Component that represents the needs of a user of I2NSF services.

      A consumer can receive and use information from another I2NSF
      Component...


If this doesn't address your concerns, please try and be more specific as
to what is wrong.

</jcs>



Will it be clearer to say that the interface is for expressing users or
tenants (i.e. consumers) oriented policies or rules?

Those policies may not use actual bits carried in data packets as criteria
because packet headers might change when the user=E2=80=99s applications mi=
grate to
different locations.

<jcs>

No, I don't think so. I2NSF is chartered to work on specifying interfaces.
Interfaces require more information than just policies. Put another way, if
we said that the I2NSF Consumer-Facing Interface is **just** for sending
and receiving policies, then:


   1) Why would an I2NSF consumer ever **receive a policy**?

        It could certainly receive data from a policy, or receive indicatio=
n

        that its policy can't be executed, but both are very different than

        sending the entire policy back, because that implies that the

        consumer has the means to understand what is wrong with the

        policy and to alter it. That's probably fine for controllers, but
not

        for end-users or some types of simple proxies.

  2) This would force the same interface to be used for receiving

        policies and data. That widens the attack surface of policies,

        and risks policy data being overwhelmed by other data.



One of the pain points expressed by the members of the ONUG (Open Network
User Group) Software Defined Security Service group, which primarily
consists of enterprises users, is the =E2=80=9Cpolicy lifetime management=
=E2=80=9D, i.e.
they want to be able to specify security policies that won=E2=80=99t need t=
o be
changed when their applications move (from on-premises to cloud, or from
one cloud to another).

<jcs>

Ummmm...

...really? Clearly, if the policy has nothing to do with its environment or
context (e.g., "on 8am, switch to this profile"), then sure. However,
location and connection type are two very important types of context. I
would think that if you change from on-premise to cloud or between clouds,
you would want to change parts of the policy to match the new context. For
example, from a company I used to work for:


   "Only users directly connected to the company Intranet can access code
servers"


In this example, location and connection type are everything.


Another one from OpenStack Congress:


   "Every network attached to a VM must be a public network or a private
network owned by someone in the same group as the VM owner"


Hence, I question the absolute nature of the comment by ONUG. I believe I
am missing context (pun intended).

</jcs>



regards,
John


On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>
wrote:

> John,
>
>
>
> In the draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-02, you have
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Can I2NSF controller also be the =E2=80=9CConsumers of NSF data and servi=
ces=E2=80=9D?
>
>
>
> Will it be clearer to say that the interface is for expressing users or
> tenants (i.e. consumers) oriented policies or rules?
>
> Those policies may not use actual bits carried in data packets as criteri=
a
> because packet headers might change when the user=E2=80=99s applications =
migrate to
> different locations.
>
>
>
> One of the pain points expressed by the members of the ONUG (Open Network
> User Group) Software Defined Security Service group, which primarily
> consists of enterprises users, is the =E2=80=9Cpolicy lifetime management=
=E2=80=9D, i.e.
> they want to be able to specify security policies that won=E2=80=99t need=
 to be
> changed when their applications move (from on-premises to cloud, or from
> one cloud to another).
>
>
>
> As all other I2NSF drafts depend on the =E2=80=9Cdraft-ietf-i2nsf-termino=
logy=E2=80=9D
> being complete (i.e. pass the WGLC), can you find time to address this as
> soon as possible?
>
>
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>



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John

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Dear all,</div><div>apologies for the delay, my reply=
 didn&#39;t go through and then I was on travel.</div><div>Replies inline, =
look for &lt;jcs&gt;..&lt;.jcs&gt;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can <span class=3D"gmail-il">I2NSF</span> controller=
 also be the =E2=80=9CConsumers of NSF data and services=E2=80=9D?</p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">&lt;jcs&gt;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes. Recall that we=
 went with &quot;consumer&quot; instead of &quot;client&quot; or &quot;end-=
user&quot; because of this reason. The above definition reflects that.</p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">However, in reviewing =
other dependent definitions, I found that there is a typo in the definition=
 of Consumer, which may have been why you were confused. The old definition=
 says, in part:</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 A Consumer is a Role that is assigned to an =
I2NSF<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Component that represents the needs=
 of a user of I2NSF services.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 A consumer can <font style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)"=
>send/receive</font> information to/from another I2NSF<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Component...</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">It should say:</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 A Consumer is a Role that is assigne=
d to an I2NSF<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Component that represents t=
he needs of a user of I2NSF services.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 A consumer can <font style=3D"background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,0)">receive and use</font>=C2=A0information from another I2NSF<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Component...</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If this doesn&#39;t address your concerns, please tr=
y and be more specific as to what is wrong.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&lt;/=
jcs&gt;<br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Will it be clearer to say that the interface is for expressing us=
ers or tenants (i.e. consumers) oriented policies or rules? =C2=A0<u></u><u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Those policies may not use actual bits carr=
ied in data packets as criteria because packet headers might change when th=
e user=E2=80=99s applications migrate to different locations. </p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&lt;jcs&gt;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">No, I don&#39;t think =
so. I2NSF is chartered to work on specifying interfaces. Interfaces require=
 more information than just policies. Put another way, if we said that the =
I2NSF Consumer-Facing Interface is **just** for sending and receiving polic=
ies, then:</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 1) Why would an I2NSF consumer ever **receive a policy**?</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 It could certain=
ly receive data from a policy, or receive indication</p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 that its policy can&#39;t be=
 executed,=C2=A0but both are very different than</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 sending the entire policy back, =
because that implies that the</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 consumer has the means to understand what is wrong=
 with the</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 policy and to alter it. That&#39;s probably fine for controllers, but n=
ot</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for=
 end-users or some types of simple proxies.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0 2) This would force the same interface to be used for receiving</p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0policies=
 and data. That widens the attack surface of policies,</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and risks policy data bein=
g overwhelmed by other data.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One of the pain points expressed by the members =
of the ONUG (Open Network User Group) Software Defined Security Service gro=
up, which primarily consists of enterprises users, is the =E2=80=9Cpolicy l=
ifetime management=E2=80=9D, i.e. they want to be able to specify security =
policies that won=E2=80=99t need to be changed when their applications move=
 (from on-premises to cloud, or from one cloud to another). </p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">&lt;jcs&gt;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ummmm...</p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">...really? Clearly, if the policy has nothing to do with its envi=
ronment or context (e.g., &quot;on 8am, switch to this profile&quot;), then=
 sure. However, location and connection type are two very important types o=
f context. I would think that if you change from on-premise to cloud or bet=
ween clouds, you would want to change parts of the policy to match the new =
context. For example, from a company I used to work for:</p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0 &quot;Only users direct=
ly connected to the company Intranet can access code servers&quot;</p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In this example, location =
and connection type are everything.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">Another one from OpenStack Congress:</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0 &quot;Every network attac=
hed to a VM must be a public network or a private network owned by someone =
in the same group as the VM owner&quot;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hence, I question the absolute nature of the comment =
by ONUG. I believe I am missing context (pun intended).</p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">&lt;/jcs&gt;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p></div><div><br></div>=
<div>regards,</div><div>John</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Lind=
a Dunbar <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">linda.dunbar@huawei.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" vlink=3D"#954F72" link=3D"#0563C1">
<div class=3D"m_-8133262242179942734WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">John, <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-<wbr>02, you hav=
e <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img width=3D"935" height=3D"105" id=3D"m_-813326224=
2179942734Picture_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:image002.png@01D27738.64A5B120"><u></=
u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can I2NSF controller also be the =E2=80=9CConsumers =
of NSF data and services=E2=80=9D?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Will it be clearer to say that the interface is for =
expressing users or tenants (i.e. consumers) oriented policies or rules? =
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Those policies may not use actual bits carried in da=
ta packets as criteria because packet headers might change when the user=E2=
=80=99s applications migrate to different locations.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">One of the pain points expressed by the members of t=
he ONUG (Open Network User Group) Software Defined Security Service group, =
which primarily consists of enterprises users, is the =E2=80=9Cpolicy lifet=
ime management=E2=80=9D, i.e. they want to be able
 to specify security policies that won=E2=80=99t need to be changed when th=
eir applications move (from on-premises to cloud, or from one cloud to anot=
her).
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">As all other I2NSF drafts depend on the =E2=80=9Cdra=
ft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology=E2=80=9D being complete (i.e. pass the WGLC), can=
 you find time to address this as soon as possible?
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you very much. <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font co=
lor=3D"#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><fon=
t color=3D"#888888">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Linda =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</font></span></div>
</div>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_sig=
nature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div>regards,</div><div>John</di=
v></div>
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Sue,
I confirm that version -09 addresses my comments well,
so it is ready to go for AD evaluation.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul


On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:46 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

> Adrian and Linda:
>
> I believe version -09.txt completes all the editorial changes I was
> requested to make by the WG, AD evaluation, or co-authors.  After Paul
> confirms my editorial changes, I believe the next step is any further AD
> evaluation.
>
> Sue
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> internet-drafts@ietf.org
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:41 PM
> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
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> Subject: [I2nsf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Interface to Network Security Functions of
> the IETF.
>
>         Title           : I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases
>         Authors         : Susan Hares
>                           Diego R. Lopez
>                           Myo Zarny
>                           Christian Jacquenet
>                           Rakesh Kumar
>                           Jaehoon Paul Jeong
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt
>         Pages           : 27
>         Date            : 2017-02-02
>
> Abstract:
>    This document describes the problem statement for Interface to
>    Network Security Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use
>    cases.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sue,<div>I confirm that version -09 addresses my comments =
well,=C2=A0</div><div>so it is ready to go for AD evaluation.</div><div><br=
></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div>Paul</=
div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:46 AM, Susan Hares <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com" target=3D"_blank">shares@ndzh.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Adrian and Linda:<br>
<br>
I believe version -09.txt completes all the editorial changes I was<br>
requested to make by the WG, AD evaluation, or co-authors.=C2=A0 After Paul=
<br>
confirms my editorial changes, I believe the next step is any further AD<br=
>
evaluation.<br>
<br>
Sue<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: I2nsf [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org">i2nsf-bounces=
@ietf.org</a><wbr>] On Behalf Of<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a><br=
>
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:41 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org">i-d-announce@ietf.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: [I2nsf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-<wbr>use-cases-09=
.txt<br>
<br>
<br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts<br>
directories.<br>
This draft is a work item of the Interface to Network Security Functions of=
<br>
the IETF.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Susa=
n Hares<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Diego R. Lopez<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Myo Zarny<br>
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=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Christian Jacquenet<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rakesh Kumar<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jaehoon Paul Jeong<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet=
f-i2nsf-problem-and-<wbr>use-cases-09.txt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 27<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 :=
 2017-02-02<br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document describes the problem statement for Interface to=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Network Security Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion u=
se<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0cases.<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-us=
e-cases/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org=
/<wbr>doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-<wbr>and-use-cases/</a><br>
<br>
There&#39;s also a htmlized version available at:<br>
<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cas=
es-09" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<wb=
r>draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-<wbr>use-cases-09</a><br>
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:46 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

Adrian and Linda:

I believe version -09.txt completes all the editorial changes I was
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        Title           : I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases
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                          Diego R. Lopez
                          Myo Zarny
                          Christian Jacquenet
                          Rakesh Kumar
                          Jaehoon Paul Jeong
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        Date            : 2017-02-02

Abstract:
   This document describes the problem statement for Interface to
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I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mr. Jaehoon =
Paul Jeong<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 3, 2017 8:00 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Susan Hares<br><b>Cc:</b> i2nsf@ietf.org; Adrian =
Farrel; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong; Linda Dunbar<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
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WG, AD evaluation, or co-authors.&nbsp; After Paul<br>confirms my =
editorial changes, I believe the next step is any further =
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New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line =
Internet-Drafts<br>directories.<br>This draft is a work item of the =
Interface to Network Security Functions of<br>the IETF.<br><br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Title&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: =
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Rakesh =
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Jaehoon Paul Jeong<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Filename&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
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Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use<br>&nbsp; =
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Sue, co-authors,
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Thanks for the work with this draft.
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A. I checked through my comments and you have addressed them well. =
Thanks.
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B. You asked two questions...
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> 1)  Cyber Threat Alliance (CA, http://cyberthreatalliance.org/)   Do =
you
> want the Cyber Threat alliance as a [CTA] reference?  I can provide =
the web
> link, but do you want a document or a web site?=20
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The URL is fine for me.
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> 2) URLS in references  - I need to find out how to put URLs into XML
> references.  If you have reference to a tutorial on how to do this, =
please
> send it to me. =20
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Don't worry about it. What you have (the URL in the text) is fine. The =
RFC editor will sort it out if it is a problem.
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Next act is for me to do the shepherd write-up and request publication.
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Watch this space.
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Adrian
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From: Susan Hares [mailto:shares@ndzh.com]=20
Sent: 03 February 2017 15:30
To: 'Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong'
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; 'Adrian Farrel'; 'Linda Dunbar'
Subject: RE: [I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt
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Paul - Thank for the double check.=20
Adrian and Linda =E2=80=93 what=E2=80=99s the next step?=20
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Sue=20
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From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mr. Jaehoon =
Paul Jeong
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 8:00 AM
To: Susan Hares
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; Adrian Farrel; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong; Linda Dunbar
Subject: Re: [I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt
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Sue,
I confirm that version -09 addresses my comments well,=20
so it is ready to go for AD evaluation.
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Thanks.
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Best Regards,
Paul
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:46 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:
Adrian and Linda:

I believe version -09.txt completes all the editorial changes I was
requested to make by the WG, AD evaluation, or co-authors.  After Paul
confirms my editorial changes, I believe the next step is any further AD
evaluation.

Sue

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internet-drafts@ietf.org
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:41 PM
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Subject: [I2nsf] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Interface to Network Security Functions =
of
the IETF.

        Title           : I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases
        Authors         : Susan Hares
                          Diego R. Lopez
                          Myo Zarny
                          Christian Jacquenet
                          Rakesh Kumar
                          Jaehoon Paul Jeong
        Filename        : draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt
        Pages           : 27
        Date            : 2017-02-02

Abstract:
   This document describes the problem statement for Interface to
   Network Security Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use
   cases.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09

A diff from the previous version is available at:
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
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Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,  <mailto:pauljeong@skku.edu> =
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'tab-interval:36.0pt'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Sue, =
co-authors,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the work with this =
draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>A. I checked through my =
comments and you have addressed them well. =
Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>B. You asked two =
questions...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>&gt; 1)<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 </span>Cyber Threat Alliance (CA, =
http://cyberthreatalliance.org/)<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span>Do =
you<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>&gt; want the Cyber Threat =
alliance as a [CTA] reference?<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 =
</span>I can provide the web<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>&gt; link, but do you want a =
document or a web site? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>The URL is fine for =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>&gt; 2) URLS in =
references<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 </span>- I need to =
find out how to put URLs into XML<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>&gt; references.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 </span>If you have reference to a =
tutorial on how to do this, please<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>&gt; send it to me.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Don't worry about it. What you =
have (the URL in the text) is fine. The RFC editor will sort it out if =
it is a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Next act is for me to do the =
shepherd write-up and request publication.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Watch this =
space.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-fon=
t-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt'><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-f=
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Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> Susan Hares =
[mailto:shares@ndzh.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 03 February 2017 =
15:30<br><b>To:</b> 'Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong'<br><b>Cc:</b> =
i2nsf@ietf.org; 'Adrian Farrel'; 'Linda Dunbar'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: =
[I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
</div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Paul - Thank for the double check. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Adrian and Linda =E2=80=93 what=E2=80=99s the =
next step? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Sue <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 3, 2017 8:00 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Susan Hares<br><b>Cc:</b> i2nsf@ietf.org; Adrian =
Farrel; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong; Linda Dunbar<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[I2nsf] FW: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Sue,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I =
confirm that version -09 addresses my comments =
well,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>so it is ready to go for =
AD evaluation.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Best =
Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:46 AM, Susan =
Hares &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com" =
target=3D"_blank">shares@ndzh.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Adrian and Linda:<br><br>I believe =
version -09.txt completes all the editorial changes I was<br>requested =
to make by the WG, AD evaluation, or co-authors.&nbsp; After =
Paul<br>confirms my editorial changes, I believe the next step is any =
further AD<br>evaluation.<br><br>Sue<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: I2nsf [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org">i2nsf-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On =
Behalf Of<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a><br>=
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:41 PM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org">i-d-announce@ietf.org</a><br>Cc: =
<a href=3D"mailto:i2nsf@ietf.org">i2nsf@ietf.org</a><br>Subject: [I2nsf] =
I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt<br><br><br>A =
New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line =
Internet-Drafts<br>directories.<br>This draft is a work item of the =
Interface to Network Security Functions of<br>the IETF.<br><br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Title&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: =
I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
Authors&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: Susan Hares<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Diego R. Lopez<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Myo Zarny<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; Christian Jacquenet<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Rakesh =
Kumar<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Jaehoon Paul Jeong<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Filename&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-09.txt<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Pages&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 27<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
2017-02-02<br><br>Abstract:<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;This document describes the =
problem statement for Interface to<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;Network Security =
Functions (I2NSF) as well as some companion use<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;cases.<br><br><br>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft =
is:<br><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use=
-cases/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-probl=
em-and-use-cases/</a><br><br>There's also a htmlized version available =
at:<br><a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-case=
s-09" =
target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-an=
d-use-cases-09</a><br><br>A diff from the previous version is available =
at:<br><a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-=
use-cases-09" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-i2nsf-pr=
oblem-and-use-cases-09</a><br><br><br>Please note that it may take a =
couple of minutes from the time of submission<br>until the htmlized =
version and diff are available at <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br><br>Internet-Drafts are also =
available by anonymous FTP at:<br><a =
href=3D"ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/" =
target=3D"_blank">ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/</a><br><br>________=
_______________________________________<br>I2nsf mailing list<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:I2nsf@ietf.org">I2nsf@ietf.org</a><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf</a><br><br>=
_______________________________________________<br>I2nsf mailing =
list<br><a href=3D"mailto:I2nsf@ietf.org">I2nsf@ietf.org</a><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf" =
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style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><br><br clear=3Dall =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-- =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, =
Ph.D.<br>Assistant Professor<br>Department of Software<br>Sungkyunkwan =
University<br>Office: +82-31-299-4957<br>Email: <a =
href=3D"mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jaehoon.paul@gmail.com</a>,&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"mailto:pauljeong@skku.edu" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt'>pauljeong@skku.edu</span></a><br>Personal =
Homepage: <a href=3D"http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php" =
target=3D"_blank">http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php</a><o:p=
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Hi,

Linda and I thought it might be helpful to give a summary of status and next
steps...

draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases
- Thanks to last call reviewers
- Very many thanks to Sue for addressing issues raised
- Revision -09 is now with our AD
- Expect...
   - SecDir and OpsDir reviews
   - AD review
   - some updates

draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology
- This is now on the critical path
- The chairs just had a call with John Strassner as doc editor
   - Proposed focussing on  I2NSF-specific terminology
   - Remove or de-emphasise some of the generic terms
   - Agreement on some minor word-smithing for clarity
- John hopes for a new revision "in the near future"

draft-ietf-i2nsf-framework
- Ready to go to last call but...
- Must be updated to match terminology when that is updated

draft-ietf-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req-
- Adopted in October, but no progress since
- Draft looks reasonably full, but...
   - Will need to be updated to match terminology updates
   - Missing a Security Considerations section!
   - The WG *really* needs to review and discuss
   - There are some minor idnits

Next milestones:

Nov 2016  Adopt info model as WG document (if desired) 
We have four information model documents
- draft-hyun-i2nsf-registration-interface-im-00
- draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-im-01
- draft-xibassnez-i2nsf-capability-00 
- draft-zhang-i2nsf-info-model-monitoring-02
These are relatively new work (although draft-xibassnez-i2nsf-capability is a
merger of previous work in the form of draft-baspez-i2nsf-capabilities and
draft-xia-i2nsf-capability-interface-im).
The existence of these drafts suggests that you think IMs are useful, but do
they need to be WG I-Ds (and do they need to become RFCs) or can we just use
them to help guide our data modelling?

Dec 2016  Adopt examination of existing secure communication mechanisms as WG
document  
I'm wondering whether the necessary information for this isn't already in the
framework draft.
Opinions?

Feb 2017  Adopt data models as WG document  
We have some data model documents
- draft-hares-i2nsf-capability-data-model-00 
   - replaces (I think) draft-hares-i2nsf-capability-yang-01
   - does it compete with draft-jeong-i2nsf-capability-interface-yang-03?
- draft-jeong-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-00 
   - replaces (I think) draft-kim-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-00
- draft-kim-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-data-model-00
Would be good to hear what the authors think is the status of this work so that
the chairs can see what is ready for adoption.

Apr 2017  Adopt IANA registry consideration as WG document  
This may continue to be a premature milestone.
But if someone wants to take a look and start a draft, please go ahead.

Apr 2017  Adopt applicability statements as WG Document  
There is some early work (often expressed in terms of use cases). What we will
be looking for is "This is how you use the architecture and data models to
achieve a specific function." Basically, what we need is a few (but not a
complete set!) classic examples to help other people put together their
implementations and deployments.

Meeting in Chicago
>From all this, it looks like some reasonable topics in Chicago will be:
- Terminology
   - Are we all on the same page?
- Info models
   - Do we need to adopt them or can we just get on with the data models?
- Data models
   - Start to look at the details
- Applicability statements if there is time

Of course, you can use the mailing list and get ahead! In the next 6 weeks you
could do all of that work and we could drink beer during the meeting in Chicago
instead.

Thanks,
Adrian
per pro Linda



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Hello,

Thank you for your work on this draft.  I can see that a lot effort
has gone into it from the beginning of the I2 NSF work.  I have some
recommendations for changes before starting IETF last call.  I hope
you find these comments helpful to improve the document.

Section 3.1.9:
Are there more details on the security requirements around #3:

   3.  Automated Key management must support both symmetric keys and
       group keys via the service provided by items 1 and 2.

Section 3.2: The work in DOTS is limited to DDoS and not all attack
types and the following text reads as if it were all attack types:

   "o  Which critical communications are to be preserved during critical
      events (DOTS working group is standardizing),

   o  Which hosts are to continue service even during severe security
      attacks (DOTS working group is standardizing),"

Once I reached section 3.2.2, the bulleted section felt redundant.  I
don't think the text was explicitly stated elsewhere, but the positive
direction of the same material is expressed and that should be enough
IMO.  This is just an opinion to consider if you'd like to tighten up
the document a bit.

The last paragraph of 3.2.2 could be argued as a selling point to
differentiate between another firewall vendor.  Object oriented
configuration tools were my personal favorite.  This was provided
through an interface that would generate the configs to push out to
multiple firewalls.  It can be a selling point to be different.  You
may be better off dropping this claim.

Section 3.2:  Is efficiency the word you intended in the following
sentence or was it some other property?

   The customer also
   lacks the ability to perform "what-if" scenarios to assess the
   efficiency of the delivered security service.

Section 3.2.3: Could you break the last sentence into 2?  And do you
mean efficiency or something else?

   It is the objective of the I2NSF work to provide a standard way to
   get security service assurance of a customers specific security
   policies which provides enough information for customers to perform
   "what-if" scenarios to assess efficiency of delivered security
   services.

Section 3.3 also feels repetitive.  Reducing text in the earlier
section will help to resolve this issue.

Section 4.2: The begininning of this screams of censorship.  Although
your intended use case is innocent enough with parental controls,
there is lots of opportunity for abuse expanding to other types of
censorship we don't typically support in protocols.  I recommend
reducing this to the threat management descriptions.

OLD:

Residential:   service requests for parental control, content
      management, and threat management.

      Parental control requests may include identity based filters for
      web content or usage.  Content management may include identifying
      and blocking malicious activities from web contents, mail, or
      files downloaded.  Threat management may include identifying and
      blocking botnets or malware.

NEW:

Residential:   service requests for threat management.

      Threat content management may include identifying
      and blocking malicious activities from web contents, mail, or
      files downloaded.  Threat management may also include identifying and
      blocking botnets or malware.

Enterprise section: I recommend that you also tighten up this language
so it is not about content censorship in any way.

      access to (or isolation from)
      various web sites or social media applications

Section 4.3.2:
I'm having a little trouble with the following sentence and think the
point is made in the previous 2 sentences, so I think it is safe to
drop:

   Without automation, it is virtually
   impossible for clients to dynamically specify their desired rules for
   their traffic.

Then the following sentence is more of a requirement, but is in the
use case section, so should it be written a little differently?

   Another feature that aids automation of firewalls that must be
   covered in automation is dynamic key management.

Section 4.3.4: I wouldn't refer to DLP as a 'new' class of service.


Nits:
General - check acronyms to just expand on first use.  I think there
are a few cases where acronyms are redefined multiple times in the
document.

Section 3.1.1

 s/IP-sec gateways/ IPsec gateways/

Last sentence in this section could be written more clearly, I get
what it is saying, but it could be improved:
  'There exist various network security monitoring
   vendor-specific interfaces for forensics and troubleshooting.'

Section 3.1.9
s/IPSec/IPsec/

Section 3.4: Last line
s/raise raise/raise/

Section 3.5:
s/standrd/standard/

Section 4.3.2
I think this is the first place I saw FWs in the docuemnt.  It's easy
enough to just spell it out, so please do!
-- 

Best regards,
Kathleen


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Kathleen: 

Thank you for these comments. I will work on a revision of the document to
address these points.   I hope to have the new draft on Monday. 

Sue Hares

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Hello,

Thank you for your work on this draft.  I can see that a lot effort has gone
into it from the beginning of the I2 NSF work.  I have some recommendations
for changes before starting IETF last call.  I hope you find these comments
helpful to improve the document.

Section 3.1.9:
Are there more details on the security requirements around #3:

   3.  Automated Key management must support both symmetric keys and
       group keys via the service provided by items 1 and 2.

Section 3.2: The work in DOTS is limited to DDoS and not all attack types
and the following text reads as if it were all attack types:

   "o  Which critical communications are to be preserved during critical
      events (DOTS working group is standardizing),

   o  Which hosts are to continue service even during severe security
      attacks (DOTS working group is standardizing),"

Once I reached section 3.2.2, the bulleted section felt redundant.  I don't
think the text was explicitly stated elsewhere, but the positive direction
of the same material is expressed and that should be enough IMO.  This is
just an opinion to consider if you'd like to tighten up the document a bit.

The last paragraph of 3.2.2 could be argued as a selling point to
differentiate between another firewall vendor.  Object oriented
configuration tools were my personal favorite.  This was provided through an
interface that would generate the configs to push out to multiple firewalls.
It can be a selling point to be different.  You may be better off dropping
this claim.

Section 3.2:  Is efficiency the word you intended in the following sentence
or was it some other property?

   The customer also
   lacks the ability to perform "what-if" scenarios to assess the
   efficiency of the delivered security service.

Section 3.2.3: Could you break the last sentence into 2?  And do you mean
efficiency or something else?

   It is the objective of the I2NSF work to provide a standard way to
   get security service assurance of a customers specific security
   policies which provides enough information for customers to perform
   "what-if" scenarios to assess efficiency of delivered security
   services.

Section 3.3 also feels repetitive.  Reducing text in the earlier section
will help to resolve this issue.

Section 4.2: The begininning of this screams of censorship.  Although your
intended use case is innocent enough with parental controls, there is lots
of opportunity for abuse expanding to other types of censorship we don't
typically support in protocols.  I recommend reducing this to the threat
management descriptions.

OLD:

Residential:   service requests for parental control, content
      management, and threat management.

      Parental control requests may include identity based filters for
      web content or usage.  Content management may include identifying
      and blocking malicious activities from web contents, mail, or
      files downloaded.  Threat management may include identifying and
      blocking botnets or malware.

NEW:

Residential:   service requests for threat management.

      Threat content management may include identifying
      and blocking malicious activities from web contents, mail, or
      files downloaded.  Threat management may also include identifying and
      blocking botnets or malware.

Enterprise section: I recommend that you also tighten up this language so it
is not about content censorship in any way.

      access to (or isolation from)
      various web sites or social media applications

Section 4.3.2:
I'm having a little trouble with the following sentence and think the point
is made in the previous 2 sentences, so I think it is safe to
drop:

   Without automation, it is virtually
   impossible for clients to dynamically specify their desired rules for
   their traffic.

Then the following sentence is more of a requirement, but is in the use case
section, so should it be written a little differently?

   Another feature that aids automation of firewalls that must be
   covered in automation is dynamic key management.

Section 4.3.4: I wouldn't refer to DLP as a 'new' class of service.


Nits:
General - check acronyms to just expand on first use.  I think there are a
few cases where acronyms are redefined multiple times in the document.

Section 3.1.1

 s/IP-sec gateways/ IPsec gateways/

Last sentence in this section could be written more clearly, I get what it
is saying, but it could be improved:
  'There exist various network security monitoring
   vendor-specific interfaces for forensics and troubleshooting.'

Section 3.1.9
s/IPSec/IPsec/

Section 3.4: Last line
s/raise raise/raise/

Section 3.5:
s/standrd/standard/

Section 4.3.2
I think this is the first place I saw FWs in the docuemnt.  It's easy enough
to just spell it out, so please do!
-- 

Best regards,
Kathleen

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Hi,

I2NSF has been *provisionally* scheduled for 13.00-15.00 on Monday March 27,
2017.

The clashes with other WGs visible at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/98/agenda.html don't look harmful.

Linda and I will start work on an agenda shortly.

Adrian

