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[91.102.42.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 33sm19080458wra.41.2019.10.06.08.22.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Oct 2019 08:22:15 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/10.1d.0.190908 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2019 18:22:13 +0300 From: Yaron Sheffer To: "Richard Backman, Annabelle" , Marius Scurtescu CC: "id-event@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls References: <284098F9-B975-439F-8037-6E41375AEDC6@amazon.com> In-Reply-To: <284098F9-B975-439F-8037-6E41375AEDC6@amazon.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3653230934_1068384888" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2019 15:22:21 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3653230934_1068384888 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marius, Annabelle, =20 Once we have published the Poll document, the WG would have achieved its go= al of standardizing a format and protocol(s) for event transmission. We poll= ed the group and there is no interest/energy in follow-up work, so there=E2=80=99s= no value in keeping the group open. Please note that the mailing list will = remain available, as is common at the IETF for closed working groups. =20 We are not closing the WG immediately. We are only proposing to wrap up onc= e the Poll document has been handed to the IESG. And personally I can be con= vinced to delay closure until the docs have gone through IETF last call and = IESG review. =20 Thanks, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron =20 From: "Richard Backman, Annabelle" Date: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 19:00 To: Marius Scurtescu , Yaro= n Sheffer Cc: "id-event@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls =20 I would similarly like to understand this decision considering there are mu= ltiple documents still in flight. =20 --=20 Annabelle Richard Backman AWS Identity =20 =20 From: Id-event on behalf of Marius Scurtescu Date: Friday, September 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM To: Yaron Sheffer Cc: "id-event@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls =20 Why is the WG wrapping up?=20 =20 Anything we can still do to keep Subject ID in the WG? =20 On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:13 AM Yaron Sheffer wrote: We concluded last call for the Poll and the Subject ID drafts. =20 The working group supported publication of the Poll draft. Authors, please = address the comments that were raised in the last call, republish and we wil= l request publication. =20 There was insufficient support for the Subject ID draft. We are planning to= wrap up the WG as soon as we push the Poll draft to the IESG, and so the ch= airs will work with the authors of the Subject ID draft and with the AD to p= ublish the draft outside of the WG. =20 Thanks, Yaron =20 _______________________________________________ Id-event mailing list Id-event@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event --B_3653230934_1068384888 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Marius, Annabelle,

 

Once we have published the Poll= document, the WG would have achieved its goal of standardizing a format and= protocol(s) for event transmission. We polled the group and there is no int= erest/energy in follow-up work, so there=E2=80=99s no value in keeping the group o= pen. Please note that the mailing list will remain available, as is common a= t the IETF for closed working groups.

=  

We are not closing the WG immediately. We= are only proposing to wrap up once the Poll document has been handed to the= IESG. And personally I can be convinced to delay closure until the docs hav= e gone through IETF last call and IESG review.

 

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron

 

From: "Richard Backman, Annabelle" <richanna@amazon.com>
= Date: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 19:00
To: Marius Scurtescu &l= t;marius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Yaron Sheffer <yaro= nf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "id-event@ietf.org" <id-eve= nt@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>I would similarly like to understand this decision conside= ring there are multiple documents still in flight.

 

-- 

Annabelle Richard Backman

AWS Identit= y

 

 

From: Id-event <id-event-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Marius S= curtescu <marius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: = Friday, September 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM
To: Yaron Sheffer <yar= onf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "id-event@ietf.org" <id-ev= ent@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls

 

=

Why is the WG wrapping up?

 

Anything we= can still do to keep Subject ID in the WG?

 

On Fri, Sep 6= , 2019 at 6:13 AM Yaron Sheffer <y= aronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

=

We concluded last call for the Poll and the Subject ID drafts.<= /p>

 

The working group supported publication of the P= oll draft. Authors, please address the comments that were raised in the last= call, republish and we will request publication.

 

There was insufficient support for the Subject ID draft. We are= planning to wrap up the WG as soon as we push the Poll draft to the IESG, a= nd so the chairs will work with the authors of the Subject ID draft and with= the AD to publish the draft outside of the WG.

 <= /o:p>

Thanks,

       = ;         Yaron

&nbs= p;

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multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dbba030594688a5c" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls X-BeenThere: id-event@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A mailing list to discuss the potential solution for a common identity event messaging format and distribution system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:20:15 -0000 --000000000000dbba030594688a5c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 Agree with Mike that subject identifier work is very important. Other specs like RISC need subject identifiers and it will be more useful to have these defined at IETF than having it defined as part of other specs. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 8:39 AM Mike Jones wrote: > Per my note on the WGLC thread, I would like to see the WG continue the > subject identifiers work until it is published as an RFC. It=E2=80=99s a= n > important piece in making the SecEvents work broadly useful. There was > additional interest in it expressed by those working on the new Continuou= s > Access Evaluation Protocol (CAEP) last week during IIW. That will be a n= ew > use case for the document. > > > > I would also advocate keeping the working group open until all the workin= g > group drafts have been published as RFCs. > > > > -- Mike > > > > *From:* Id-event *On Behalf Of *Yaron Sheffer > *Sent:* Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:22 AM > *To:* Richard Backman, Annabelle ; Marius Scurtescu > > *Cc:* id-event@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls > > > > Hi Marius, Annabelle, > > > > Once we have published the Poll document, the WG would have achieved its > goal of standardizing a format and protocol(s) for event transmission. We > polled the group and there is no interest/energy in follow-up work, so > there=E2=80=99s no value in keeping the group open. Please note that the = mailing > list will remain available, as is common at the IETF for closed working > groups. > > > > We are not closing the WG immediately. We are only proposing to wrap up > once the Poll document has been handed to the IESG. And personally I can = be > convinced to delay closure until the docs have gone through IETF last cal= l > and IESG review. > > > > Thanks, > > Yaron > > > > *From: *"Richard Backman, Annabelle" > *Date: *Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 19:00 > *To: *Marius Scurtescu = , > Yaron Sheffer > *Cc: *"id-event@ietf.org" > *Subject: *Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls > > > > I would similarly like to understand this decision considering there are > multiple documents still in flight. > > > > -- > > Annabelle Richard Backman > > AWS Identity > > > > > > *From: *Id-event on behalf of Marius > Scurtescu > *Date: *Friday, September 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM > *To: *Yaron Sheffer > *Cc: *"id-event@ietf.org" > *Subject: *Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls > > > > Why is the WG wrapping up? > > > > Anything we can still do to keep Subject ID in the WG? > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:13 AM Yaron Sheffer > wrote: > > We concluded last call for the Poll and the Subject ID drafts. > > > > The working group supported publication of the Poll draft. Authors, pleas= e > address the comments that were raised in the last call, republish and we > will request publication. > > > > There was insufficient support for the Subject ID draft. We are planning > to wrap up the WG as soon as we push the Poll draft to the IESG, and so t= he > chairs will work with the authors of the Subject ID draft and with the AD > to publish the draft outside of the WG. > > > > Thanks, > > Yaron > > > > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event > > > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event > --000000000000dbba030594688a5c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1

Agree with Mike that subject ide= ntifier work is very important. Other specs like RISC need subject identifi= ers and it will be more useful to have these defined at IETF than having it= defined as part of other specs.

=
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 8:39 AM Mike J= ones <Michael.Jones=3D= 40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Per my note on th= e WGLC thread, I would like to see the WG continue the subject identifiers = work until it is published as an RFC.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s an important piece= in making the SecEvents work broadly useful.=C2=A0 There was additional interest in it expressed by those working on the new Continuous= Access Evaluation Protocol (CAEP) last week during IIW.=C2=A0 That will be= a new use case for the document.

=C2=A0<= /u>

I would also advo= cate keeping the working group open until all the working group drafts have= been published as RFCs.

=C2=A0<= /u>

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 -- Mike

=C2=A0<= /u>

From: Id-event <id-event-bounces@ietf.org> O= n Behalf Of Yaron Sheffer
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:22 AM
To: Richard Backman, Annabelle <richanna@amazon.com>; Marius Scurtescu <m= arius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: id-event@= ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls

=C2=A0

Hi Marius, Annabelle,

=C2=A0

Once we have published the Poll document, the WG wou= ld have achieved its goal of standardizing a format and protocol(s) for eve= nt transmission. We polled the group and there is no interest/energy in fol= low-up work, so there=E2=80=99s no value in keeping the group open. Please note that the mailing list will remain avai= lable, as is common at the IETF for closed working groups.

=C2=A0

We are not closing the WG immediately. We are only p= roposing to wrap up once the Poll document has been handed to the IESG. And= personally I can be convinced to delay closure until the docs have gone th= rough IETF last call and IESG review.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron

=C2=A0

From: = "Richard Backman= , Annabelle" <richanna@amazon.com>
Date: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 19:00
To: Marius Scurtescu <marius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.co= m@dmarc.ietf.org>, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "id-= event@ietf.org" <id-event@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls<= /p>

=C2=A0

I would similarly like to understand this decision c= onsidering there are multiple documents still in flight.

=C2=A0

--=C2=A0

Annabelle Richard Backman

AWS Identity

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: = Id-event <id-event-bounces@ie= tf.org> on behalf of Marius Scurtescu <marius.scurtesc= u=3D40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Friday, September 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM
To: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "id-= event@ietf.org" <id-event@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls<= /p>

=C2=A0

Why is the WG wrapping up?

=C2=A0

Anything we can still do to keep Subject ID in the W= G?

=C2=A0

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:13 AM Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.c= om> wrote:

We concluded last call for the Poll and the Subject = ID drafts.

=C2=A0

The working group supported publication of the Poll = draft. Authors, please address the comments that were raised in the last ca= ll, republish and we will request publication.

=C2=A0

There was insufficient support for the Subject ID dr= aft. We are planning to wrap up the WG as soon as we push the Poll draft to= the IESG, and so the chairs will work with the authors of the Subject ID draft and with the AD to publish the draft outside of th= e WG.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron

=C2=A0

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2019 02:59:14 -0000 --Apple-Mail-ED895DD0-9EB9-49D6-BF12-1279707FEB33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 Phil > On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Adam Dawes wrote: >=20 > +1 >=20 > Agree with Mike that subject identifier work is very important. Other spec= s like RISC need subject identifiers and it will be more useful to have thes= e defined at IETF than having it defined as part of other specs. >=20 >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 8:39 AM Mike Jones wrote: >> Per my note on the WGLC thread, I would like to see the WG continue the s= ubject identifiers work until it is published as an RFC. It=E2=80=99s an im= portant piece in making the SecEvents work broadly useful. There was additi= onal interest in it expressed by those working on the new Continuous Access E= valuation Protocol (CAEP) last week during IIW. That will be a new use case= for the document. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I would also advocate keeping the working group open until all the workin= g group drafts have been published as RFCs. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> -- Mike >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: Id-event On Behalf Of Yaron Sheffer >> Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:22 AM >> To: Richard Backman, Annabelle ; Marius Scurtescu >> Cc: id-event@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Hi Marius, Annabelle, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Once we have published the Poll document, the WG would have achieved its g= oal of standardizing a format and protocol(s) for event transmission. We pol= led the group and there is no interest/energy in follow-up work, so there=E2= =80=99s no value in keeping the group open. Please note that the mailing lis= t will remain available, as is common at the IETF for closed working groups.= >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> We are not closing the WG immediately. We are only proposing to wrap up o= nce the Poll document has been handed to the IESG. And personally I can be c= onvinced to delay closure until the docs have gone through IETF last call an= d IESG review. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Yaron >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: "Richard Backman, Annabelle" >> Date: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 19:00 >> To: Marius Scurtescu , Y= aron Sheffer >> Cc: "id-event@ietf.org" >> Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I would similarly like to understand this decision considering there are m= ultiple documents still in flight. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> Annabelle Richard Backman >>=20 >> AWS Identity >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: Id-event on behalf of Marius Scurtescu <= marius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org> >> Date: Friday, September 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM >> To: Yaron Sheffer >> Cc: "id-event@ietf.org" >> Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Why is the WG wrapping up? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Anything we can still do to keep Subject ID in the WG? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:13 AM Yaron Sheffer wrot= e: >>=20 >> We concluded last call for the Poll and the Subject ID drafts. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> The working group supported publication of the Poll draft. Authors, pleas= e address the comments that were raised in the last call, republish and we w= ill request publication. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> There was insufficient support for the Subject ID draft. We are planning t= o wrap up the WG as soon as we push the Poll draft to the IESG, and so the c= hairs will work with the authors of the Subject ID draft and with the AD to p= ublish the draft outside of the WG. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Yaron >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Id-event mailing list >> Id-event@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Id-event mailing list >> Id-event@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.org_mailma= n_listinfo_id-2Devent&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI= _JnE&r=3Dna5FVzBTWmanqWNy4DpctyXPpuYqPkAI1aLcLN4KZNA&m=3DpS4X8c0jgFKlCQescQZ= zUhzUU35vRt7-ndrmVQNTI6Y&s=3DTIVeoqMxev_FfSnLq0ou_jNLKqO-T8jj-gZmhDqs81o&e=3D= =20 --Apple-Mail-ED895DD0-9EB9-49D6-BF12-1279707FEB33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1

Phil

On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Adam D= awes <adawes=3D40= google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

+1

Agree with M= ike that subject identifier work is very important. Other specs like RISC ne= ed subject identifiers and it will be more useful to have these defined at I= ETF than having it defined as part of other specs.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 a= t 8:39 AM Mike Jones <Michael.Jones=3D40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Per my note on the= WGLC thread, I would like to see the WG continue the subject identifiers wo= rk until it is published as an RFC.  It=E2=80=99s an important piece in= making the SecEvents work broadly useful.  There was additional interest in it expressed by those working on the new Continuous A= ccess Evaluation Protocol (CAEP) last week during IIW.  That will be a n= ew use case for the document.

 

I would also advoc= ate keeping the working group open until all the working group drafts have b= een published as RFCs.

 

   =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p; -- Mike

 

From: Id-event <id-event-bounces@ietf.org> On B= ehalf Of Yaron Sheffer
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:22 AM
To: Richard Backman, Annabelle <richanna@amazon.com>; Marius Scurtescu <ma= rius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: id-event@i= etf.org
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls

 

Hi Marius, Annabelle,

 

Once we have published the Poll document, the WG woul= d have achieved its goal of standardizing a format and protocol(s) for event= transmission. We polled the group and there is no interest/energy in follow= -up work, so there=E2=80=99s no value in keeping the group open. Please note that the mailing list will remain avail= able, as is common at the IETF for closed working groups.

 

We are not closing the WG immediately. We are only pr= oposing to wrap up once the Poll document has been handed to the IESG. And p= ersonally I can be convinced to delay closure until the docs have gone throu= gh IETF last call and IESG review.

 

Thanks,

         = ;       Yaron

 

From: <= /span>"Richard Backman, Annab= elle" <richanna@= amazon.com>
Date: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 19:00
To: Marius Scurtescu <marius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.com@= dmarc.ietf.org>, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "id-event@= ietf.org" <id-= event@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls

 

I would similarly like to understand this decision co= nsidering there are multiple documents still in flight.

 

-- 

Annabelle Richard Backman

AWS Identity

 

 

From: <= /span>Id-event <id-event-bounces@ietf.o= rg> on behalf of Marius Scurtescu <marius.scurtescu=3D40= coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Friday, September 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM
To: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "id-event@= ietf.org" <id-= event@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls

 

Why is the WG wrapping up?

 

Anything we can still do to keep Subject ID in the WG= ?

 

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:13 AM Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com= > wrote:

We concluded last call for the Poll and the Subject I= D drafts.

 

The working group supported publication of the Poll d= raft. Authors, please address the comments that were raised in the last call= , republish and we will request publication.

 

There was insufficient support for the Subject ID dra= ft. We are planning to wrap up the WG as soon as we push the Poll draft to t= he IESG, and so the chairs will work with the authors of the Subject ID draft and with the AD to publish the draft outside of the= WG.

 

Thanks,

         = ;       Yaron

 

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2019 14:46:30 -0000 --0000000000004d5a5405947b596c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yaron and I appreciate the value of the subject identifier work, but that has not been reflected by the working group. Only a small minority of those that attend the in-person WG meetings responded to the subject identifiers draft WG LC, and none of those responses provided feedback on the draft, which has us question how carefully the WG reviewed the draft. It is now October, and the WG LC was in August. As Yaron stated previously, the chairs will work with the AD and the authors to publish the draft outside of the WG given the lack of response from the WG =E1=90=A7 On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 9:20 AM Adam Dawes wrote: > +1 > > Agree with Mike that subject identifier work is very important. Other > specs like RISC need subject identifiers and it will be more useful to ha= ve > these defined at IETF than having it defined as part of other specs. > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 8:39 AM Mike Jones 40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> Per my note on the WGLC thread, I would like to see the WG continue the >> subject identifiers work until it is published as an RFC. It=E2=80=99s = an >> important piece in making the SecEvents work broadly useful. There was >> additional interest in it expressed by those working on the new Continuo= us >> Access Evaluation Protocol (CAEP) last week during IIW. That will be a = new >> use case for the document. >> >> >> >> I would also advocate keeping the working group open until all the >> working group drafts have been published as RFCs. >> >> >> >> -- Mike >> >> >> >> *From:* Id-event *On Behalf Of *Yaron Sheffe= r >> *Sent:* Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:22 AM >> *To:* Richard Backman, Annabelle > >; Marius Scurtescu > 40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org> >> *Cc:* id-event@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls >> >> >> >> Hi Marius, Annabelle, >> >> >> >> Once we have published the Poll document, the WG would have achieved its >> goal of standardizing a format and protocol(s) for event transmission. W= e >> polled the group and there is no interest/energy in follow-up work, so >> there=E2=80=99s no value in keeping the group open. Please note that the= mailing >> list will remain available, as is common at the IETF for closed working >> groups. >> >> >> >> We are not closing the WG immediately. We are only proposing to wrap up >> once the Poll document has been handed to the IESG. And personally I can= be >> convinced to delay closure until the docs have gone through IETF last ca= ll >> and IESG review. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Yaron >> >> >> >> *From: *"Richard Backman, Annabelle" >> *Date: *Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 19:00 >> *To: *Marius Scurtescu , >> Yaron Sheffer >> *Cc: *"id-event@ietf.org" >> *Subject: *Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls >> >> >> >> I would similarly like to understand this decision considering there are >> multiple documents still in flight. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Annabelle Richard Backman >> >> AWS Identity >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Id-event on behalf of Marius >> Scurtescu >> *Date: *Friday, September 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM >> *To: *Yaron Sheffer >> *Cc: *"id-event@ietf.org" >> *Subject: *Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls >> >> >> >> Why is the WG wrapping up? >> >> >> >> Anything we can still do to keep Subject ID in the WG? >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:13 AM Yaron Sheffer >> wrote: >> >> We concluded last call for the Poll and the Subject ID drafts. >> >> >> >> The working group supported publication of the Poll draft. Authors, >> please address the comments that were raised in the last call, republish >> and we will request publication. >> >> >> >> There was insufficient support for the Subject ID draft. We are planning >> to wrap up the WG as soon as we push the Poll draft to the IESG, and so = the >> chairs will work with the authors of the Subject ID draft and with the A= D >> to publish the draft outside of the WG. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Yaron >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Id-event mailing list >> Id-event@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Id-event mailing list >> Id-event@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event >> > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event > --0000000000004d5a5405947b596c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yaron and I appreciate the value of the subject ident= ifier work, but that has not been reflected by the working=C2=A0group.=C2= =A0

Only a small minority of those that attend the in-p= erson WG meetings responded to the subject identifiers draft WG LC, and non= e of those responses=C2=A0provided feedback on the draft, which has us ques= tion how carefully the WG reviewed the draft.

It is now = October, and the WG LC was in August.=C2=A0

As Yar= on stated previously, the chairs will work with the AD and the authors to p= ublish the draft outside of the WG given the lack of response from the WG
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On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 9:20 AM Adam Daw= es <adawes=3D40google.com= @dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
+1

Agree with Mike t= hat subject identifier work is very important. Other specs like RISC need s= ubject identifiers and it will be more useful to have these defined at IETF= than having it defined as part of other specs.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 = at 8:39 AM Mike Jones <Michael.Jones=3D40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> w= rote:

Per my note on th= e WGLC thread, I would like to see the WG continue the subject identifiers = work until it is published as an RFC.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s an important piece= in making the SecEvents work broadly useful.=C2=A0 There was additional interest in it expressed by those working on the new Continuous= Access Evaluation Protocol (CAEP) last week during IIW.=C2=A0 That will be= a new use case for the document.

=C2=A0<= /u>

I would also advo= cate keeping the working group open until all the working group drafts have= been published as RFCs.

=C2=A0<= /u>

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 -- Mike

=C2=A0<= /u>

From: Id-event <id-event-bounces@ietf.org> O= n Behalf Of Yaron Sheffer
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:22 AM
To: Richard Backman, Annabelle <richanna@amazon.com>; Marius Scurtescu <= marius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: id-event@= ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls

=C2=A0

Hi Marius, Annabelle,

=C2=A0

Once we have published the Poll document, the WG wou= ld have achieved its goal of standardizing a format and protocol(s) for eve= nt transmission. We polled the group and there is no interest/energy in fol= low-up work, so there=E2=80=99s no value in keeping the group open. Please note that the mailing list will remain avai= lable, as is common at the IETF for closed working groups.

=C2=A0

We are not closing the WG immediately. We are only p= roposing to wrap up once the Poll document has been handed to the IESG. And= personally I can be convinced to delay closure until the docs have gone th= rough IETF last call and IESG review.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron

=C2=A0

From: = "Richard Backman= , Annabelle" <richanna@amazon.com>
Date: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 19:00
To: Marius Scurtescu <marius.scurtescu=3D40coinbase.co= m@dmarc.ietf.org>, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "id-= event@ietf.org" <id-event@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls<= /p>

=C2=A0

I would similarly like to understand this decision c= onsidering there are multiple documents still in flight.

=C2=A0

--=C2=A0

Annabelle Richard Backman

AWS Identity

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: = Id-event <id-event-bounces@ie= tf.org> on behalf of Marius Scurtescu <marius.scurtesc= u=3D40coinbase.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Friday, September 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM
To: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "id-= event@ietf.org" <id-event@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] SecEvent WG last calls<= /p>

=C2=A0

Why is the WG wrapping up?

=C2=A0

Anything we can still do to keep Subject ID in the W= G?

=C2=A0

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:13 AM Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.c= om> wrote:

We concluded last call for the Poll and the Subject = ID drafts.

=C2=A0

The working group supported publication of the Poll = draft. Authors, please address the comments that were raised in the last ca= ll, republish and we will request publication.

=C2=A0

There was insufficient support for the Subject ID dr= aft. We are planning to wrap up the WG as soon as we push the Poll draft to= the IESG, and so the chairs will work with the authors of the Subject ID draft and with the AD to publish the draft outside of th= e WG.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yaron

=C2=A0

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I am also keen to see the subject identif= iers draft move forward, it has many useful applications.

=
= Also as an FYI the poll spec is being used by UK OpenBanking:=C2=A0https://openbanking.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/WOR/page= s/998801568/Event+Notification+API+Specification+-+v4.0-draft7
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:51:49 -0000 --000000000000e2dabd0594906045 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also support publication of this draft as an RFC. Apologies for missing the WGLC. Dave Tonge On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 17:34, Mike Jones wrote: > I support publication of the subject identifiers draft as an RFC from the > working group. > > > > -- Mike > > > > P.S. Sorry to be so late saying this. I was largely offline due to > family matters during the official WGLC period. > > > > *From:* Id-event *On Behalf Of *Marius > Scurtescu > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2019 9:37 PM > *To:* Richard Backman, Annabelle > *Cc:* Yaron Sheffer ; Brian Campbell 40pingidentity.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; SecEvent > *Subject:* Re: [Id-event] WG Last Call for > draft-ietf-secevent-subject-identifiers-05 - until Aug. 28 > > > > +1 from an author > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:59 AM Richard Backman, Annabelle 40amazon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > I also support its publication, though as editor I=E2=80=99m not sure how= much my > =E2=80=9Cvote=E2=80=9D counts here. :D > > > > -- > > Annabelle Richard Backman > > AWS Identity > > > > > > *From: *Id-event on behalf of Brian Campbell > > *Date: *Monday, August 26, 2019 at 4:41 AM > *To: *Yaron Sheffer > *Cc: *SecEvent > *Subject: *Re: [Id-event] WG Last Call for > draft-ietf-secevent-subject-identifiers-05 - until Aug. 28 > > > > happy with the draft and support its publication > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:29 AM Yaron Sheffer > wrote: > > This is to announce working group last call on this draft > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-secevent-subject-identifiers= / > > ). > > Please send your comments to the list. Even if you are perfectly happy > with the draft, please let us know that you support its publication > as-is by posting to the list. > > Because of the summer holidays, this last call is open for 3 weeks, > until Aug. 28. > > Thanks, > > Dick and Yaron > > _______________________________________________ > Id-event mailing list > Id-event@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/id-event > > > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and > privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any > review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited.= . > If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sende= r > immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any file attachments fro= m > your computer. 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I also support publication of this draft = as an RFC.

Apologies for missing the WGLC.

=
= Dave Tonge

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 17:34, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones= =3D40microsoft.com@dmarc.= ietf.org> wrote:

I support publica= tion of the subject identifiers draft as an RFC from the working group.<= /u>

=C2=A0<= /u>

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 -- Mike

=C2=A0<= /u>

P.S.=C2=A0 Sorry = to be so late saying this.=C2=A0 I was largely offline due to family matter= s during the official WGLC period.

=C2=A0<= /u>

From: Id-event <id-event-bounces@ietf.org> O= n Behalf Of Marius Scurtescu
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 9:37 PM
To: Richard Backman, Annabelle <richanna=3D40amazon.com@dmarc.ietf.org&= gt;
Cc: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>; Brian Campbell <bcampbell=3D= 40pi= ngidentity.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; SecEvent <id-event@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-secevent-subject= -identifiers-05 - until Aug. 28

=C2=A0

+1 from an author

=C2=A0

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:59 AM Richard Backman, An= nabelle <richanna=3D40amazon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

I also support its publication, though as editor I= =E2=80=99m not sure how much my =E2=80=9Cvote=E2=80=9D counts here. :D

=C2=A0

--=C2=A0

Annabelle Richard Backman

AWS Identity

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Id-event <id-event-bounces@ie= tf.org> on behalf of Brian Campbell <bcampbell=3D40pingidentity.com@d= marc.ietf.org>
Date: Monday, August 26, 2019 at 4:41 AM
To: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: SecEvent <id-event@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Id-event] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-secevent-subject= -identifiers-05 - until Aug. 28

=C2=A0

happy with the draft and support its publication

=C2=A0

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:29 AM Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.= com> wrote:

This is to announce working group last call on this = draft
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sec= event-subject-identifiers/).

Please send your comments to the list. Even if you are perfectly happy
with the draft, please let us know that you support its publication
as-is by posting to the list.

Because of the summer holidays, this last call is open for 3 weeks,
until Aug. 28.

Thanks,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dick and Yaron

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:33:51 -0000 --_000_DM6PR00MB056955E44AD3D7711AFEF441F5630DM6PR00MB0569namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The datatracker state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-seceve= nt-http-poll/ is "WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up, Revised I-D Needed - = Issue raised by WGLC". What is the write-up we're waiting for and who is t= o create it? Also, what are the WGLC issue(s) that require a revised draft= ? Should we be trying to publish an update before Monday's submission cuto= ff deadline? Thanks, -- Mike --_000_DM6PR00MB056955E44AD3D7711AFEF441F5630DM6PR00MB0569namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The datatracker state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-secevent-http-poll/ is R= 20;WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up, Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC”.=   What is the write-up we’re waiting for and who is to create it= ?  Also, what are the WGLC issue(s) that require a revised draft? = ; Should we be trying to publish an update before Monday’s submission = cutoff deadline?

 

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:48:00 -0000 --_000_DM6PR00MB056926DBB8887E861DA8D44CF5630DM6PR00MB0569namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The IESG datatracker state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-s= ecevent-http-push/ is "Publication Requested". Is the next step for this d= raft to conduct the IETF-wide review and then get it on a telechat? Or is = there a reason we should be publishing an updated draft by Monday's submiss= ion deadline? Thanks, -- Mike --_000_DM6PR00MB056926DBB8887E861DA8D44CF5630DM6PR00MB0569namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The IESG datatracker state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-secevent-http-push/ is R= 20;Publication Requested”. =  Is the next step for this draft to conduct the IETF-wide review and then get it on a telechat?  Or is there a reason we should= be publishing an updated draft by Monday’s submission deadline?=

 

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Thanks,

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        -- Mike

 

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:51:38 -0000 --_000_DM6PR00MB0569B731B1004F4CCEDC2B6AF5630DM6PR00MB0569namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK - I think I can answer my own question on this one. I found Annabelle's= WGLC review comments that need to be addressed. I'll work on those and ge= t a new draft out by Monday. -- Mike From: Mike Jones Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:34 AM To: Yaron Sheffer ; Marius Scurtescu ; Anthony Nadalin Cc: id-event@ietf.org Subject: Next steps for draft-ietf-secevent-http-poll The datatracker state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-seceve= nt-http-poll/ is "WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up, Revised I-D Needed - = Issue raised by WGLC". What is the write-up we're waiting for and who is t= o create it? Also, what are the WGLC issue(s) that require a revised draft= ? Should we be trying to publish an update before Monday's submission cuto= ff deadline? Thanks, -- Mike --_000_DM6PR00MB0569B731B1004F4CCEDC2B6AF5630DM6PR00MB0569namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OK – I think I c= an answer my own question on this one.  I found Annabelle’s WGLC= review comments that need to be addressed.  I’ll work on those = and get a new draft out by Monday.

 

   &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p; -- Mike

 

From: Mike Jones
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:34 AM
To: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>; Marius Scurtescu &l= t;marius.scurtescu@gmail.com>; Anthony Nadalin <tonynad@microsoft.com= >
Cc: id-event@ietf.org
Subject: Next steps for draft-ietf-secevent-http-poll

 

The datatracker state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-secevent-http-poll/ is R= 20;WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up, Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC”.=   What is the write-up we’re waiting for and who is to create it= ?  Also, what are the WGLC issue(s) that require a revised draft? = ; Should we be trying to publish an update before Monday’s submission = cutoff deadline?

 

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Thanks,

        &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        -- Mike

 

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